Its revolutionary - Rajiv Malhotra is waking Indians up to taking back the adhikara to speak about our dharma. But it will amount to nothing unless we all take action.
+Ragini Sharma -- The danger is from Indian fascist communists, fascist totalitarian, dogmas , religions ISLAM and Christianity. Urge all young educated INDIANS to defeat antinational , inimical forces to INDIA/INDIANS . Communism was buried from both ISLAMIC countries and Christian countries. It is only in INDIA , the communists are kicking and screaming . Defeat Communists from INDIA .
Sane Voice Hindu dharma is the best world view presented to all of humanity . Based on highest human values of peace, love, equality , including gender equality , nonviolence, free, liberty and freedom , democracy, mutual respect, respect & regard for all life forms, vegetarianism , pluralism , nature and environment worship, feminine as DIVINE form , and all beings are DIVINE . These are core values, principles of DHARMA philosophy. Nothing else even comes close . Any body can lie, propagate , divisive, fascist, totalitarian dogmas with hatred and sow seeds of ill will animosity and perpetrate barbarism for their own gains and profit . Truth will not change.
This itself is a big tight slap on the face of Aryan Invasion Theory.... good thing we never standardized language... Unlike Abrahamic religions, we don't believe in erasing past but rather embracing it
This series of brilliant talks should serve to be a real eye-opener for all. As a first step, we should be telling all our friends and acquaintances to watch these discussions to increase their awareness. For all, and especially for those living in the US, we need to fight this concerted effort to undermine Sanskrit and Sanskriti. What is at stake here is our children's lives and their children's lives if we let the Pollocks and Donigers of the world get their way with what they are doing to our culture and heritage. Shame on Narayan Moorthi and shame on our Government for funding our own demise. I expected better from PM Modi. Infosys employees, please wake up and more importantly, wake up your leader!
Happy to see Rajivji attaining this status of giving autographs to ppl after all the struggle he has been through... There is still a lot to do but this is definitely a sign of progress... Very happy for him... @2:40:29
This was a very informative session and every speaker brought out very important points in this crucial battle for sanskrit. The question/answer session was especially good, with lot of relevant useful questions.
All Indians should remember Hakka and Bukka of Karnataka They started the Vijayanagar empire which actually protected Sanskrit ,sanatan dharma when it was at the verge of complete destruction .
Sanskrit was taught by Lord Krishna Civilization to the-then Indians....so imagine the capabilities and possible connection to advanced civilizations in multiple galaxies....Please dig in to it...thanks.
Rajiv ji that carving that you are talking, i found one in Chennai church next to American embassy were there is a English man standing with a huge book in his hand and few Brahman kids stand opposite to him staring at him.... this is a huge statue placed next to the church podium !! when i first saw this i was so disappointed that even after so many years of freedom these guys still have such statues in their churches and we are not doing anything about them....
+ind- us Battle for Sanskrit is also a battle for Sanskriti !! please step away from this tamilian, north Indian talks etc see the impact of English education on you that you are finding a dividing fact on me when i am talking about a uniting fact of imperial rule which is present as a statue right among us and we have not acted up on it...
I am a risk engineer in USA & visit many pharmaceutical mfg units. I am told that collection from many urinals are used for drug making. Hinduism is famous for traitors & today these traitors are well fed so as to sell their own family members. RMji is doing great job & each & every true Hindu should strengthen his hands.
Love you sir. Lasting legacy. Your life is precious for the entire humanity. You have the blessings of many saints that is why you have done wonders in a short time.
Buddhists murdered sankhya darshana of hinduism by saying that there is no individual self or atman and the world does not exist. It is idealism. But sankhya darshana says that observed (matter) cannot be perceived without the observer (atman). World is very much real. Sankhya darshana was validated by double slit quantum experiment. By the way the sanksrit term darshana is vision or revelation of nature of ultimate in the higher levels of consciousness of hindu/vedic maharishis. This is the reason why one cannot alter sruti. But buddhists to look different from vedas gave a twist which led to their downfall or until colonial forces tried to revive it to pit it against hinduism. Fake king Ashoka was invented in that process to show that he converted from bad hinduism to good buddhism. Ambedkar tried his level best but unfortunately he never understood that world's oldest culture (hinduism) cannot be fooled by saying vedas is bullshit or by publishing books like riddles in hinduism To marxists like pollock mantras are some mumbo jumbo bullshit. But when Rig veda's sanskrit hymns and mantras are recited they generate vibratory frequencies similar to vibratory frequencies of sub-atomic particles.(bosons and fermions). Rig Veda has the complete blueprint of the universe. Honest quantum physicists acknowledge that vedas are way more advanced than so called modern science which still apes newtonian classical physics. How can panini talk about "greeks"? Obviously a colonial fabrication to legitimize their fake date for panini (4th century)i. Ramayana (6000 BC) happened before mahabharatha (4000 BC). There are characters common to both epics. Panini's date is somewhere between 6000 BC to 4000 BC. Colonialists just post dated everything to fit their short christian timeline (4004 BC at 9 am this universe was created while modern science and hinduism says that the age of the universe is 14 billion years ) Sanskrit is a divine language and it is ageless. It is the language of vibrations, without which this universe cannot exist. Pancha maha bootha's first element akasha or ether or zero point field from which the whole diverse universe originates is made of sanskrit or shabda (sound). Rig veda has them in the form of mantras and hymns. Shaivite and vaishnavite division was also a creation of colonial forces to divide and rule hindus One mistake we do is to pass off distortions as diverse views. This is dangerous
+kashsoldier Well said... One small but major correction that needs to be done to the understanding of the time line... finally we have come to a point of questioning the colonial timeline but that is not enough... there are evidences to show that the Krishna's kingdom should have gone under the sea some 11K+ years before that is during the end of ice age in Europe and America... And there are evidences to show that some tribes of Africa talk Tamil that means there was civilization in the southern India much before the continents split.... If the Government revisits that History study we might be able to come out with a more detailed History of this Nation and of Sanskrit... This Civilization is many thousand years older than what we believe now....
+kashsoldier RM asked them if JNU could help translating english to the traditional scholars.. forget help! few days later they launch a full on attack on india itself! bharat ki barbaadi tak...this shows how much "help" is JNU for this nation.
Namaste Rajivji. I have been listening to my teachers , discourse on literally any topic in Vedic literature and Itihaasa purana. They are doyens in the spiritual movement. Only because they are not ' fashionable' in the American way, the common public is not interested . I'm truly grateful that , sir , you are 'fashionable' the American way, and learned and committed to studying all the wrongs against us , Indians , and playing a HUGE role in making us Indians aware of our heritage.🙏🙏🙏🙏. Thank you very much sir , for making us aware of the amount of hate which exists among the 'outsiders' against India and Indians. I pray that we wake up as a Nation , to take responsibility for ourselves and Indian Nationality.
I have heard quite a few verbal rebuttals of western indologists' position on various Hindu texts. I am assuming that we have also published these rebuttals. But, since most of the Indology literature comes out in Western journals, where the gate keepers are people like Wendy Doniger and Sheldon Pollock, it would be reasonable to assume that they would not allow dissenting papers to be published. We need to create Indian Indic studies journals that present the Dharmic point of view on contentious issues raised by Western scholars. However, there has to be a sophistication of approach and methodology that is beyond reproach. Shri RM has led the field in defining that approach in dealing with the Western Indologists. Now, it is up to all our Sanskrit Scholars such as Dr Rao to do serious Purva Paksh, followed by Uttar paksh and carry on this ideological battle aimed at weakening the foundations of Sanatana Dharma
Awesome discussion. To my fellow brothers & sisters, I would also recommend the book, The True History and the Religion of India, by Swami Prakashanand Saraswati, wherein he details with lucidity the history of Sanskrit and other languages, Bharatvarsh, and the effects of colonialism on them. He does so with ample scientific evidence.
Yes his books seem very impressive and scientifically rigorous. However, I also encountered certain rather confounding facts about him- if you have observed him over the years in public and in private- would you comment on the truth of his conviction?
Sheldon Pollock (along with many other American Sanskrit and Hinduism academicians), one of the main subjects of this book, has signed a petition favoring Kanhaia Kumar. It is now clear where he stands with respect to the security of India. Yet the GoI has given him a Padma Shree!
+Erwin Masusu It was in 2010, Congress led government at center. The less said about the snakes in Congress, the better. Obviously Pollock supports a commie. I think India should declare him a persona non grata, given he was supporting those who ask for secession of India. May be you could drop a note at PMO online about this, if you have relevant links.
I am deeply disturbed by what is happening in JNU.but glad that they have been exposed.before it i was thinking all is going well.Yet more to be exposed.
wonderful. its the vote bank policy that made four decades of education towards english..nehruand his anglishised fears...there is light at the end of tunnel.
Two languages all should learn as second languages outside their mother tongue should be Sanskrit and English. Sanskrit for India and English for international transactions. It will give a level playing field for all Indians that Hindi does not.
I would like to say that certain levels of knowledge is actualy exclusive in its technique of presentation. Example the Ved vidiya is not written in a method for the common man. Thank Ishwar that it was so. Because I could only imagine what could have the Tyrant Hitler would have done if he had gotten the secrets of the Veda.
You are so right Sir.But I think at this stage you and Dr Raju of "Decolonizing Mathematics" and Dr Vandana Shiva of Seed Bank fame should get together and have some discussions of how you can work together.
The Dravidian Questoon has tp be addressed.Three years ago I saw a group of beuatifull group of young girls in Toronto.Justing from their appearance and colorful dress I assumed they were from Africa.Being South African I approached them them.Imagine my astonishment when they told me they were Indian.I didn't say anything; but having wooly hair myself I fondly remembered my Indian grand mothers pride of hair.This is the problem I don't know but the Dravidians are being portrayed as the untouchables along racial lines.
Is there any point debating over the timing of different historical events ? Rather finding faults with the western thinkers,after all they understood our heritage through their frame of mind and knowledge base,we should instead focus on understanding Sanskrit and its scientific and philosophical schools through our learning traditions.
viewed the video up to 40 minutes but after rao started speaking i got bored ... can someone write summary of video concentrating on 10 minute blocks so that if someone looks up he will use the feature of player which lets you start playing from anywhere?
Latha Baradwaj yes it is given but like i wanted someone to please summarize points in each section in 10 minutes sections or just give rough summary of each speech ... you see i could not keep myself interested in rao's speech ... in papers rao may be lucid and able to keep attention of readers but in speech i quickly lost interest ... i was hoping that if he has made interesting point then summaries will help go straight to time counter in player to hear him or just be satisfied with summary ... hence the request ... thanks anyways for pointing out that segments are listed with counter numbers
Sir , if I may be allowed to convey our teachers' teachings of Ramayana, it HAPPENED in the 23rd Tretayuga , whereas we are now in the 28th Kaliyuga. A cycle of the Chaturyuga lasts 43 + lakh years , by which we have the time distance between Ramayana and today.
where is the intellectual honesty to put the truth ?? so most people are dependent on the foreign intellectuals !! & why there should be a barrier of borders to have the insight in something. forget about Maxmuler , & focus on Tilak,on Savarkar & on many others who claimed that they are foreigners.
prince siddharth was just a very disturbed young man who needed psychotherapy which his close social circle did not provide ... his first attempts to get answers to manifest questions he had had (as contrasted to Freudian subconscious *latent* questions) were very awkward (we cannot of course KNOW this but just surmise it from bio and autobio -graphical info about him ... like Koenraad says meditation doing person his hardly a social revolutionary ... Koenraad could not KNOW it but it is a surmise ... yes his ideas may have been put to such uses or at any rate used to challenge orthodoxy of the time but then all kinds of people were doing that ... charvaks and jains were doing that already) ... prince's awkwardness stemmed from fact that he was prince ... for example, he joins a guru to learn but then starts arguments with guru ... how guru will react? ... guru will say go away you cocky little rascal, are you here to learn or teach ... that is not to say that ALL gurus would have been impatient with the argumentative prince ... some would have listened to him and sensed his impatience and tried to figure out what mental disturbance caused it and tried to guide him but the fact is in the end he chose the path of meditative way which he may have come to know either while still in palace or in somebody's ashram ... so the argument that there is continuity in innovation in thought about life is correct ... if siddharth had met a charvak he would have perhaps become greatest scientist of his time and trajectory of future of nations affected by his work would have made those areas different ... fact is buddhism was no innovation of revolutionary proportion ... it was just one of many heterodoxies the area supported ... fact is charvak's knowledge was completely destroyed so much so that no extant writing of brihaspati remains ... ideationally only charvaks could revolutionize india ... politically they were still ahead of their times as were epicurus and lucretius of greece from which area alexander visited us but he did not bring along knowledge of them (instead alexander's head was filled with the idea of becoming world king) ... talking about present times: we have three monotheistic religions of which latest addition (edition too) begs to differ with the other two and we are still struggling with the stupid idea of building a world government without first solving the problem of how three inte-related monotheisms cannot agree that their respective deities MUST be one and same if they are to be truly monotheistic ... hindus and their foibles will come much later ... much more later comes the hindus' conciliatory argument that if there is only one supreme deity then that must be Paramatma about which Rigved 10.129 song said we could not speculate ... question is when will islamics say NO when last sentence is read? ... will it be before word Paramatma is uttered or after? ... and when will we be able to say that muhammad was mentally ill pedophile and mass murderer without our head being chopped off in some parts of world ... and when will we feel in our own homes not threatened by believers of world's only true religion (which is also peaceful religion)?
All over the world they teach Sanskrit here in India deshdrohi leftovers and British made it dead language so we don't understand Vedas forget about Vedanta
Are you part of the so called New international Order,by helping them only to rewrite the world Knowledge and bring about the change to their liking through systematic interventions ? Our first need is to understanding our ancient knowledge base by following the traditional thinking methodology at the same time be able to understand the modern scientific methodology. Today Indians need to unite but I only hope your great efforts would not add to already confused generation and divide them further.
Are these speakers afraid of Pollock or just showing a false sense of respect ....because they were either pulling their punches or did not know the foreign language ..I mean the English language, well. Somebody (Dr. Rao)said we are "habituated" (to pollock's way) when meaning to say brainwashed or restricted by his eminence; >Calling Sanskrit language 'artificial' rather than logical - by Girish Nath; Constantly asserting Pollock 'says' when they mean Pollock alleges or claims ; >Also repeatedly embellishing Pollock's questionable 'content' as knowledge; Instead of calling him just intelligent , studious, dedicated to his (convoluted) theory -or assumptions ----referring to him as brilliant, knowledgeable!! ...and I thought they were addressing language students!!!!
+abhijit raorane As Rajiv keep saying do not discount the impact of Western Indology with one liners. It's also not about Pollock. It's about school of thought and our inherent inferiority complex and lack of work ethic etc.
Its not about discounting Chaarvaks.they do pose good research..its about letting people know their presence. General public are not aware of their perverted studies.
As a matter of fact, a number of people, such as Mohandas Pai (of infosys) and Rajiv himself have approached Narayana Murthy family, very many times to convince them. But because of their " Ahamkara " or hubris, their naivete, their lack of knowledge of their own heritage being taken apart by the likes of Sheldon Pollock and then later on, the sheer loss of face among their American friends' circle, the family simply would not listen to anyone and went ahead with financing & supporting Sheldon Pollock anyway. This is a classic example how our own Hindu people are contributing to the downfall of our heritage. There are very many other examples but this one takes the cake, so to speak.
Those industrialists and philanthropists donating money towards research in Sanskrit or Indologist should be careful as to the real motive behind such studies.
do you know mohyal/ hussaini brahmin fought Karbala war to save prophet Muhammad's family when no Muslim was ready to save them.where is brahmin warrior history from dffrnt parts of country? removed! good that ppl r now talking up
I felt Prof. C Upendra Rao’s communication/speaking skills were weak which made it hard to follow along his speech, even though he seems to be making some insightful specific comments. I’m not commenting on his English but rather this speaking skills, eg. setting a premise before elaborating. Often I found him describing something in incredible detail, but I wasn’t sure why that detail was brought up in the first place.
I had like to draw attention towards attitude of the audience here. Despite shree rajiv ji presenting this several times that indians have this inferiority complex of being validated by a white man, it's so deeply ingrained in our system that every time sir koenraad Elst presents a point which gives the Indian audience feel good they clap and it happened so often and you observe it comparitivly and this is a matter concern.
I do not subscrbe to the view ,as said by the bearded foreigner,that everything good in Buddhism, was taken by the Hinduism from that religion.Buddhism came much later than Hinduism or the Sanatan Dharma.So to the contrary, Buddhism took many things from Hinduism.There was no animal sacrifice in Sanatan Dharma.It was interpolations done later by many kings who ate meat and tried to pass it on it as the practice of the Hindus. Later European writers propagated meat eating by the Hindus in order to demean Hinduism.Pollock' s views are not at all acceptable. ifice
Really ? So Panini was buddhist ? What a riddiculous person you are !!! .. Classical sanskrit has been derived from Vedic sanskrit. It's in those lines where the purest knowledge lies.
Well, Ashvaghosh was. And there is no proof that Vedic Sanskrit fathered Classical Sanskrit. They are in fact close but ultimately different languages.
Really ? Every classical language comes from it's former archaic form. It's an irrational argument to refute. To say that classical greek did not originate from Ancient greek is preposterous. Just because a language is formed as a result of higher consciousness does not automatically guarantees it for refutation. The benefits of Panini's Grammar are many but the incantations and the vibrations has plenty of benefits as well. A certain holistic approach is needed and that is why study of sanskrit must be done as a whole. Compartmentalisation of education is dangerous and often overlook alternative ramifications.
This approach completely neglects the Tamil approach. V have got lot of proofs, physical, and proven by carbon dating beyond doubt, not only here but in many countries, that Tamil is the oldest laungage on the earth. It's etmology is beyond wuestion. But northes will never accept this. Because always winners write the history.
Pakistan is a thorn in hindus eyes,(dont forget east pakistan). great muslim influence is an inseperable part of their life, , they would want to change the history and rewrite it as a proud and victorious nation, their inferiority complex is obvious ,they all speak urdu and call it hindi, (bughal mai churri , munh mai ram ram.)they drove muslim to creat pakistan
Nobody drove Muslims away. The Muslims themselves don't feel comfortable living with people practising different religion. Not just in India, in every country where they are in minority they prefer to live together in a ghetto atmosphere.
It seems as per you there is greatness in barbarism, brutality and conquest though violent means. These are the traits of a desert culture not a forest culture.
shocked to see chanting of mantras by the girls !!! which was forbidden to them in the past considering them all as shudras, reveals a drastic change ... a chamellion kind of change ...
+Infinite Wisdom DO U HAVE ANY WISDOM AT ALL ? THATS WHY U R USING A TAG AS "INFINITE WISDOM " ----READ THE SCRIPTURES & FIND THE TRUTH IF U ARE YET TO !! BUT I DON'T THINK THAT U DON'T KNOW THE SCRIPTURES.. & SO FAR AS JEHAD & JEHADI IS CONCERNED THE WORLD WILL NOT FIND NOTORIOUS JEHADIS LIKE ARYANS ( BRAMHINS, KSHTRIYAS & VAISHYAS) WHO FOR THEIR BENEFITS DIVIDED THE WHOLE INDIAN SOCIETY IN TO PIECES & NOT ONLY THIS BUT DEPRIVED THE WHOLE SOCIETY FROM THE RIGHT TO EDUCATION & RIGHT TO PROPERTY ,BASIC HUMAN NEED.
Its revolutionary - Rajiv Malhotra is waking Indians up to taking back the adhikara to speak about our dharma. But it will amount to nothing unless we all take action.
+Ragini Sharma the first thing is to respect our dharma civilization just not discard coz west say so :)
+Ragini Sharma -- The danger is from Indian fascist communists, fascist totalitarian, dogmas , religions ISLAM and Christianity.
Urge all young educated INDIANS to defeat antinational , inimical forces to INDIA/INDIANS . Communism was buried from both ISLAMIC countries and Christian countries. It is only in INDIA , the communists are kicking and screaming . Defeat Communists from INDIA .
Sane Voice Hindu dharma is the best world view presented to all of humanity .
Based on highest human values of peace, love, equality , including gender equality , nonviolence, free, liberty and freedom , democracy, mutual respect, respect & regard for all life forms, vegetarianism , pluralism , nature and environment worship, feminine as DIVINE form , and all beings are DIVINE .
These are core values, principles of DHARMA philosophy.
Nothing else even comes close .
Any body can lie, propagate , divisive, fascist, totalitarian dogmas with hatred and sow seeds of ill will animosity and perpetrate barbarism for their own gains and profit .
Truth will not change.
@@allembrace bro start with yourself, don't follow any anti-hindu channels like ndtv, wire, quint I'm seeing that you've subscribed ndtv
There is a small village in karnataka even today they all speak only sanskrit.....every child ..adult ...old....poor rich....
@m Khan please don't comment if you have no knowledge of the situation
Bro which village
Somewhere in Shimoga I guess.. it is there in youtube
It is Mattur and Hosalli - twin villages near shimoga, 275 km from Bangalore. May not be entire village, but most can speak sanskrit.
This itself is a big tight slap on the face of Aryan Invasion Theory....
good thing we never standardized language...
Unlike Abrahamic religions, we don't believe in erasing past but rather embracing it
I feel I should work my life and retire to do what Rajiv has now been doing. So much inspired by his work. Thank you sir
Rajive ji is so intetigent, so soft. he is our hero.
"Americanization of Elite Indians" Very well said Sir. Its been on for last few decades
This series of brilliant talks should serve to be a real eye-opener for all. As a first step, we should be telling all our friends and acquaintances to watch these discussions to increase their awareness. For all, and especially for those living in the US, we need to fight this concerted effort to undermine Sanskrit and Sanskriti. What is at stake here is our children's lives and their children's lives if we let the Pollocks and Donigers of the world get their way with what they are doing to our culture and heritage. Shame on Narayan Moorthi and shame on our Government for funding our own demise. I expected better from PM Modi. Infosys employees, please wake up and more importantly, wake up your leader!
This man has helped me become an enthusiast in Sanskrit.
Best and excellent debate and presentation.!! Rajiv is one the finest person with immense depth and clarity.His logic is flawless!
Happy to see Rajivji attaining this status of giving autographs to ppl after all the struggle he has been through... There is still a lot to do but this is definitely a sign of progress... Very happy for him... @2:40:29
This was a very informative session and every speaker brought out very important points in this crucial battle for sanskrit. The question/answer session was especially good, with lot of relevant useful questions.
All Indians should remember Hakka and Bukka of Karnataka They started the Vijayanagar empire which actually protected Sanskrit ,sanatan dharma when it was at the verge of complete destruction .
Sanskrit was taught by Lord Krishna Civilization to the-then Indians....so imagine the capabilities and possible connection to advanced civilizations in multiple galaxies....Please dig in to it...thanks.
I love Sanskrit and trying to learn it 🙏🙏
Rajiv ji that carving that you are talking, i found one in Chennai church next to American embassy were there is a English man standing with a huge book in his hand and few Brahman kids stand opposite to him staring at him.... this is a huge statue placed next to the church podium !! when i first saw this i was so disappointed that even after so many years of freedom these guys still have such statues in their churches and we are not doing anything about them....
+Kumar k kumar p
I thought the Tamilians always worshipped the British rule and English --- so what is surprising about the statue still existing ...
+ind- us Battle for Sanskrit is also a battle for Sanskriti !! please step away from this tamilian, north Indian talks etc
see the impact of English education on you that you are finding a dividing fact on me when i am talking about a uniting fact of imperial rule which is present as a statue right among us and we have not acted up on it...
not at all tamilians this was the effect of so called bramins and ramasamy groups teaching
not at all tamilians this was the effect of so called bramins and ramasamy groups teaching
not at all tamilians this was the effect of so called bramins and ramasamy groups teaching
just liked before watching it..
Rajiv Malhotra mahodaya ko mera shat shat naman !!!
I am surprised something like this happening in JNU..😳😳
Prof. Grish N Jha The most stimulating discussion.
I am a risk engineer in USA & visit many pharmaceutical mfg units. I am told that collection from many urinals are used for drug making. Hinduism is famous for traitors & today these traitors are well fed so as to sell their own family members. RMji is doing great job & each & every true Hindu should strengthen his hands.
Love you sir. Lasting legacy. Your life is precious for the entire humanity. You have the blessings of many saints that is why you have done wonders in a short time.
Thank you Rajiv ji. We have joined the battle for Sanskrit..
Buddhists murdered sankhya darshana of hinduism by saying that there is no individual self or atman and the world does not exist. It is idealism. But sankhya darshana says that observed (matter) cannot be perceived without the observer (atman). World is very much real. Sankhya darshana was validated by double slit quantum experiment. By the way the sanksrit term darshana is vision or revelation of nature of ultimate in the higher levels of consciousness of hindu/vedic maharishis. This is the reason why one cannot alter sruti. But buddhists to look different from vedas gave a twist which led to their downfall or until colonial forces tried to revive it to pit it against hinduism.
Fake king Ashoka was invented in that process to show that he converted from bad hinduism to good buddhism. Ambedkar tried his level best but unfortunately he never understood that world's oldest culture (hinduism) cannot be fooled by saying vedas is bullshit or by publishing books like riddles in hinduism
To marxists like pollock mantras are some mumbo jumbo bullshit. But when Rig veda's sanskrit hymns and mantras are recited they generate vibratory frequencies similar to vibratory frequencies of sub-atomic particles.(bosons and fermions). Rig Veda has the complete blueprint of the universe. Honest quantum physicists acknowledge that vedas are way more advanced than so called modern science which still apes newtonian classical physics.
How can panini talk about "greeks"? Obviously a colonial fabrication to legitimize their fake date for panini (4th century)i. Ramayana (6000 BC) happened before mahabharatha (4000 BC). There are characters common to both epics. Panini's date is somewhere between 6000 BC to 4000 BC. Colonialists just post dated everything to fit their short christian timeline (4004 BC at 9 am this universe was created while modern science and hinduism says that the age of the universe is 14 billion years )
Sanskrit is a divine language and it is ageless. It is the language of vibrations, without which this universe cannot exist.
Pancha maha bootha's first element akasha or ether or zero point field from which the whole diverse universe originates is made of sanskrit or shabda (sound). Rig veda has them in the form of mantras and hymns.
Shaivite and vaishnavite division was also a creation of colonial forces to divide and rule hindus
One mistake we do is to pass off distortions as diverse views. This is dangerous
+kashsoldier so delighted to read your post apart from listening to whole video session.
+kashsoldier excellent. thank you for your response
+kashsoldier Well said... One small but major correction that needs to be done to the understanding of the time line... finally we have come to a point of questioning the colonial timeline but that is not enough... there are evidences to show that the Krishna's kingdom should have gone under the sea some 11K+ years before that is during the end of ice age in Europe and America... And there are evidences to show that some tribes of Africa talk Tamil that means there was civilization in the southern India much before the continents split....
If the Government revisits that History study we might be able to come out with a more detailed History of this Nation and of Sanskrit... This Civilization is many thousand years older than what we believe now....
+kashsoldier RM asked them if JNU could help translating english to the traditional scholars.. forget help! few days later they launch a full on attack on india itself! bharat ki barbaadi tak...this shows how much "help" is JNU for this nation.
+kashsoldier may be follower of budda but not budda, budda claim nothing unique
Full of pride and informative.one of beautiful and clear prounciation of sanskrit.. great job, beautiful face of JNU I seen.
Namaste Rajivji. I have been listening to my teachers , discourse on literally any topic in Vedic literature and Itihaasa purana. They are doyens in the spiritual movement. Only because they are not ' fashionable' in the American way, the common public is not interested .
I'm truly grateful that , sir , you are 'fashionable' the American way, and learned and committed to studying all the wrongs against us , Indians , and playing a HUGE role in making us Indians aware of our heritage.🙏🙏🙏🙏.
Thank you very much sir , for making us aware of the amount of hate which exists among the 'outsiders' against India and Indians.
I pray that we wake up as a Nation , to take responsibility for ourselves and Indian Nationality.
The most stimulating discussion so far.. !
Yes I will :)
I have heard quite a few verbal rebuttals of western indologists' position on various Hindu texts. I am assuming that we have also published these rebuttals. But, since most of the Indology literature comes out in Western journals, where the gate keepers are people like Wendy Doniger and Sheldon Pollock, it would be reasonable to assume that they would not allow dissenting papers to be published. We need to create Indian Indic studies journals that present the Dharmic point of view on contentious issues raised by Western scholars. However, there has to be a sophistication of approach and methodology that is beyond reproach. Shri RM has led the field in defining that approach in dealing with the Western Indologists. Now, it is up to all our Sanskrit Scholars such as Dr Rao to do serious Purva Paksh, followed by Uttar paksh and carry on this ideological battle aimed at weakening the foundations of Sanatana Dharma
Awesome discussion. To my fellow brothers & sisters, I would also recommend the book, The True History and the Religion of India, by Swami Prakashanand Saraswati, wherein he details with lucidity the history of Sanskrit and other languages, Bharatvarsh, and the effects of colonialism on them. He does so with ample scientific evidence.
Yes his books seem very impressive and scientifically rigorous. However, I also encountered certain rather confounding facts about him- if you have observed him over the years in public and in private- would you comment on the truth of his conviction?
J. A. B. van Buitenen is one he best western scholar of Sanskrit and Indology.
Thank you for uploading sir...!
Awesome mind blowing
Sheldon Pollock (along with many other American Sanskrit and Hinduism academicians), one of the main subjects of this book, has signed a petition favoring Kanhaia Kumar. It is now clear where he stands with respect to the security of India. Yet the GoI has given him a Padma Shree!
+Erwin Masusu
It was in 2010, Congress led government at center. The less said about the snakes in Congress, the better. Obviously Pollock supports a commie. I think India should declare him a persona non grata, given he was supporting those who ask for secession of India. May be you could drop a note at PMO online about this, if you have relevant links.
Best 02.45 hrs that I could spend on youtube..revealing...feeling empowered
excellent book for grasp your cultural problem and our mindset towards our culture.
2:21:03 Descriptive vs Prescriptive
Rajiv Bhai ko mera naman !!
is this JNU university...what is happening today how they allowed this prograam..
+Akhand Bharat This was uploaded om 2/16 ...but actually recorded prior to student Union hoopla
+Akhand Bharat Loved your comment !! :)
I am deeply disturbed by what is happening in JNU.but glad that they have been exposed.before it i was thinking all is going well.Yet more to be exposed.
+Akhand Bharat It's not just JNU, You need to look at all the social science department,, TISS, Osmania, HCU, Madrras University, DU etc.
Santi Dash hmm ya..these anti hindu and anti india forces has taken for granted us.we need to get united and force our identity vociferously.
Speaking sanskrit is like riding up and down a sea wave.
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It was a pleasure
would like to be a part of any organisation helping the vedic cause
Good work is going on.
Sanatan Dharma is not a religion built on the basis of a sword or a lie. It is an age-old tradition that will be maintained for ages.
No wonder Murthy library first came with budhist, urdu works nothing on scientific works of sanskrit.
All the best.
wonderful. its the vote bank policy that made four decades of education towards english..nehruand his anglishised fears...there is light at the end of tunnel.
Great work sir
Jago hindu jago
There is no such language by name Sanskrit.
There is a language by name Samskrutam 🙏
Two languages all should learn as second languages outside their mother tongue should be Sanskrit and English. Sanskrit for India and English for international transactions. It will give a level playing field for all Indians that Hindi does not.
Sanskrit is the language of the higher civilizations.
I would like to say that certain levels of knowledge is actualy exclusive in its technique of presentation. Example the Ved vidiya is not written in a method for the common man. Thank Ishwar that it was so. Because I could only imagine what could have the Tyrant Hitler would have done if he had gotten the secrets of the Veda.
You are so right Sir.But I think at this stage you and Dr Raju of "Decolonizing Mathematics" and Dr Vandana Shiva of Seed Bank fame should get together and have some discussions of how you can work together.
Mahaweshwar Lipi which is used in Himchal Pradesh may have connection with Southern India lang
The Dravidian Questoon has tp be addressed.Three years ago I saw a group of beuatifull group of young girls in Toronto.Justing from their appearance and colorful dress I assumed they were from Africa.Being South African I approached them them.Imagine my astonishment when they told me they were Indian.I didn't say anything; but having wooly hair myself I fondly remembered my Indian grand mothers pride of hair.This is the problem I don't know but the Dravidians are being portrayed as the untouchables along racial lines.
Awesome
Sheldon Pollock Should be blacklisted he is promoting education Jihad
Keep it up sirji✌✌
Is there any point debating over the timing of different historical events ? Rather finding faults with the western thinkers,after all they understood our heritage through their frame of mind and knowledge base,we should instead focus on understanding Sanskrit and its scientific and philosophical schools through our learning traditions.
Could some please identify the lady who spoke Sanskrit at the end?
Would like to join this battle. What should I do?
viewed the video up to 40 minutes but after rao started speaking i got bored ... can someone write summary of video concentrating on 10 minute blocks so that if someone looks up he will use the feature of player which lets you start playing from anywhere?
Latha Baradwaj yes it is given but like i wanted someone to please summarize points in each section in 10 minutes sections or just give rough summary of each speech ... you see i could not keep myself interested in rao's speech ... in papers rao may be lucid and able to keep attention of readers but in speech i quickly lost interest ... i was hoping that if he has made interesting point then summaries will help go straight to time counter in player to hear him or just be satisfied with summary ... hence the request ... thanks anyways for pointing out that segments are listed with counter numbers
Sir , if I may be allowed to convey our teachers' teachings of Ramayana, it HAPPENED in the 23rd Tretayuga , whereas we are now in the 28th Kaliyuga. A cycle of the Chaturyuga lasts 43 + lakh years , by which we have the time distance between Ramayana and today.
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Rajiv jithe UP govt has started sending all hindu population out of UP and likewise happening in West bengalis. ....what should be done
where is the intellectual honesty to put the truth ?? so most people are dependent on the foreign intellectuals !! & why there should be a barrier of borders to have the insight in something. forget about Maxmuler , & focus on Tilak,on Savarkar & on many others who claimed that they are foreigners.
Since earlytimess sanskrit hasbeen the language of a caste not of whole India so that this is today's situation
2:03:00 Thappar maar ke bhi izzat mile to Indians accept it !
prince siddharth was just a very disturbed young man who needed psychotherapy which his close social circle did not provide ... his first attempts to get answers to manifest questions he had had (as contrasted to Freudian subconscious *latent* questions) were very awkward (we cannot of course KNOW this but just surmise it from bio and autobio -graphical info about him ... like Koenraad says meditation doing person his hardly a social revolutionary ... Koenraad could not KNOW it but it is a surmise ... yes his ideas may have been put to such uses or at any rate used to challenge orthodoxy of the time but then all kinds of people were doing that ... charvaks and jains were doing that already) ... prince's awkwardness stemmed from fact that he was prince ... for example, he joins a guru to learn but then starts arguments with guru ... how guru will react? ... guru will say go away you cocky little rascal, are you here to learn or teach ... that is not to say that ALL gurus would have been impatient with the argumentative prince ... some would have listened to him and sensed his impatience and tried to figure out what mental disturbance caused it and tried to guide him but the fact is in the end he chose the path of meditative way which he may have come to know either while still in palace or in somebody's ashram ... so the argument that there is continuity in innovation in thought about life is correct ... if siddharth had met a charvak he would have perhaps become greatest scientist of his time and trajectory of future of nations affected by his work would have made those areas different ... fact is buddhism was no innovation of revolutionary proportion ... it was just one of many heterodoxies the area supported ... fact is charvak's knowledge was completely destroyed so much so that no extant writing of brihaspati remains ... ideationally only charvaks could revolutionize india ... politically they were still ahead of their times as were epicurus and lucretius of greece from which area alexander visited us but he did not bring along knowledge of them (instead alexander's head was filled with the idea of becoming world king) ... talking about present times: we have three monotheistic religions of which latest addition (edition too) begs to differ with the other two and we are still struggling with the stupid idea of building a world government without first solving the problem of how three inte-related monotheisms cannot agree that their respective deities MUST be one and same if they are to be truly monotheistic ... hindus and their foibles will come much later ... much more later comes the hindus' conciliatory argument that if there is only one supreme deity then that must be Paramatma about which Rigved 10.129 song said we could not speculate ... question is when will islamics say NO when last sentence is read? ... will it be before word Paramatma is uttered or after? ... and when will we be able to say that muhammad was mentally ill pedophile and mass murderer without our head being chopped off in some parts of world ... and when will we feel in our own homes not threatened by believers of world's only true religion (which is also peaceful religion)?
All over the world they teach Sanskrit here in India deshdrohi leftovers and British made it dead language so we don't understand Vedas forget about Vedanta
Why did government develop hindi and discontinued sanskrit?
Are you part of the so called New international Order,by helping them only to rewrite the world Knowledge and bring about the change to their liking through systematic interventions ? Our first need is to understanding our ancient knowledge base by following the traditional thinking methodology at the same time be able to understand the modern scientific methodology. Today Indians need to unite but I only hope your great efforts would not add to already confused generation and divide them further.
Are these speakers afraid of Pollock or just showing a false sense of respect ....because they were either pulling their punches or did not know the foreign language ..I mean the English language, well.
Somebody (Dr. Rao)said we are "habituated" (to pollock's way) when meaning to say brainwashed or restricted by his eminence;
>Calling Sanskrit language 'artificial' rather than logical - by Girish Nath;
Constantly asserting Pollock 'says' when they mean Pollock alleges or claims ;
>Also repeatedly embellishing Pollock's questionable 'content' as knowledge;
Instead of calling him just intelligent , studious, dedicated to his (convoluted) theory -or assumptions ----referring to him as brilliant, knowledgeable!!
...and I thought they were addressing language students!!!!
+ind- us Pollock is just an atrocity literature expert on indian civilization...nothing more, nothing less.
+abhijit raorane As Rajiv keep saying do not discount the impact of Western Indology with one liners. It's also not about Pollock. It's about school of thought and our inherent inferiority complex and lack of work ethic etc.
Its not about discounting Chaarvaks.they do pose good research..its about letting people know their presence. General public are not aware of their perverted studies.
abhijit raorane Agreed. Have you started reading the book "Battle For Sanskrit"? If not then please do to get a comprehensive view.
i have ordered it. thanks
why no one approached Murthi family to make them understand that fact and convince them to work in our side
As a matter of fact, a number of people, such as Mohandas Pai (of infosys) and Rajiv himself have approached Narayana Murthy family, very many times to convince them. But because of their " Ahamkara " or hubris, their naivete, their lack of knowledge of their own heritage being taken apart by the likes of Sheldon Pollock and then later on, the sheer loss of face among their American friends' circle, the family simply would not listen to anyone and went ahead with financing & supporting Sheldon Pollock anyway. This is a classic example how our own Hindu people are contributing to the downfall of our heritage. There are very many other examples but this one takes the cake, so to speak.
Sanasakrit Sabadkosh ka koi App nhi h agr koi h toh Krupa kre humko link de k !
its in JNU. 😊
Amazingly most of the people in panel can't pronounce "Sanskrit" correctly. Sheldon Pollock, however, is very good at it.
Those industrialists and philanthropists donating money towards research in Sanskrit or Indologist should be careful as to the real motive behind such studies.
do you know mohyal/ hussaini brahmin fought Karbala war to save prophet Muhammad's family when no Muslim was ready to save them.where is brahmin warrior history from dffrnt parts of country? removed! good that ppl r now talking up
I felt Prof. C Upendra Rao’s communication/speaking skills were weak which made it hard to follow along his speech, even though he seems to be making some insightful specific comments. I’m not commenting on his English but rather this speaking skills, eg. setting a premise before elaborating. Often I found him describing something in incredible detail, but I wasn’t sure why that detail was brought up in the first place.
I had like to draw attention towards attitude of the audience here. Despite shree rajiv ji presenting this several times that indians have this inferiority complex of being validated by a white man, it's so deeply ingrained in our system that every time sir koenraad Elst presents a point which gives the Indian audience feel good they clap and it happened so often and you observe it comparitivly and this is a matter concern.
I do not subscrbe to the view ,as said by the bearded foreigner,that everything good in Buddhism, was taken by the Hinduism from that religion.Buddhism came much later than Hinduism or the Sanatan Dharma.So to the contrary, Buddhism took many things from Hinduism.There was no animal sacrifice in Sanatan Dharma.It was interpolations done later by many kings who ate meat and tried to pass it on it as the practice of the Hindus. Later European writers propagated meat eating by the Hindus in order to demean Hinduism.Pollock' s views are not at all acceptable.
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Stop this nonsense and discrimination. There is nothing like buddhism. Buddha was a great guru. Just like Sikh gurus. They were also Hindus.
We DO NOT WANT SANGHI SANSKRIT, WE want Real Sanskrit!
Sanghi came from Sanskrit. We wan't Hindu Sanskrit- The real Sanskrit. Who the hell are you anyway?
Hey, Beware! Sanskrit was made into a classical language of repute by the Buddhists. It can never be reduced to a Hindu Sanskrit!
Really ? So Panini was buddhist ? What a riddiculous person you are !!! .. Classical sanskrit has been derived from Vedic sanskrit. It's in those lines where the purest knowledge lies.
Well, Ashvaghosh was. And there is no proof that Vedic Sanskrit fathered Classical Sanskrit. They are in fact close but ultimately different languages.
Really ? Every classical language comes from it's former archaic form. It's an irrational argument to refute. To say that classical greek did not originate from Ancient greek is preposterous. Just because a language is formed as a result of higher consciousness does not automatically guarantees it for refutation. The benefits of Panini's Grammar are many but the incantations and the vibrations has plenty of benefits as well. A certain holistic approach is needed and that is why study of sanskrit must be done as a whole. Compartmentalisation of education is dangerous and often overlook alternative ramifications.
Sanskrit is for Brahmins or higher cast Hindus let them speak. It is not a language of common man of India
Your name is George Jacob you're not even native to this land so you don't have any rights to speak here. Stfu
Rajiv Malhotra never speaks any language other than English, no sanscrit , indi or punjabi.
This approach completely neglects the Tamil approach.
V have got lot of proofs, physical, and proven by carbon dating beyond doubt, not only here but in many countries, that Tamil is the oldest laungage on the earth. It's etmology is beyond wuestion. But northes will never accept this.
Because always winners write the history.
Pakistan is a thorn in hindus eyes,(dont forget east pakistan). great muslim influence is an inseperable part of their life, , they would want to change the history and rewrite it as a proud and victorious nation, their inferiority complex is obvious ,they all speak urdu and call it hindi, (bughal mai churri , munh mai ram ram.)they drove muslim to creat pakistan
Nobody drove Muslims away. The Muslims themselves don't feel comfortable living with people practising different religion. Not just in India, in every country where they are in minority they prefer to live together in a ghetto atmosphere.
You should introspect why is it this way and why the entire world is turning hostile towards them
It seems as per you there is greatness in barbarism, brutality and conquest though violent means. These are the traits of a desert culture not a forest culture.
The person claiming to be Professor is speaking in a Western tone he can't even pronounce the word Sanskrit in an Bhartiya Tone
shocked to see chanting of mantras by the girls !!! which was forbidden to them in the past considering them all as shudras, reveals a drastic change ... a chamellion kind of change ...
+65sharad You look like a Jihadi with crazy ideas learnt in a madrasa.
+Infinite Wisdom DO U HAVE ANY WISDOM AT ALL ? THATS WHY U R USING A TAG AS "INFINITE WISDOM " ----READ THE SCRIPTURES & FIND THE TRUTH IF U ARE YET TO !! BUT I DON'T THINK THAT U DON'T KNOW THE SCRIPTURES.. & SO FAR AS JEHAD & JEHADI IS CONCERNED THE WORLD WILL NOT FIND NOTORIOUS JEHADIS LIKE ARYANS ( BRAMHINS, KSHTRIYAS & VAISHYAS) WHO FOR THEIR BENEFITS DIVIDED THE WHOLE INDIAN SOCIETY IN TO PIECES & NOT ONLY THIS BUT DEPRIVED THE WHOLE SOCIETY FROM THE RIGHT TO EDUCATION & RIGHT TO PROPERTY ,BASIC HUMAN NEED.
I got your number. You are a Jihadi.