Problems more Alonso’s poor car feedback than Stroll. Any team that has Alonso as a number 1 driver becomes more uncompetitive the longer he’s in the team.
Alonso praying for a Brawn gp situation for 2026. Win like 9 races and hope the car is good enough throughout the season for consistent top 6 finishing possiitons because Aston Martin does not know how to upgrade a car! 😭
@@paperplane-db8qf why would they replace Alonso when he is the one scoring the points when the car is suitable to. Stroll doesn't even out qualify or place ahead of Alonso very often.
@@paperplane-db8qf If the car is so shit that even Alonso can't make some hay with it.. and Stroll is behind him as usual.. Pretty clear the car is dragging
Sainz and Newey would make Williams a true competitor, quicker than anyone else, especially Aston Martin. Give Newey a stake in the team, that he didn't get the first time causing him to leave, and he'll love Williams all over again! Would LOVE to see Ferrari, McLaren and Williams at the top of the pile. Merc, Red Bull & Aston Martin can fight for 4th. That's my ideal outcome for 2030. Such a long shot tho.
Newey in his golden retirement years would much rather align himself with Ferrari as it hits two birds with one stone. Besides, Ferrari isn’t far off of the pace from RB. Williams on the other hand? That’s not a fun project when your pushing almost 70
Totally agree. They've been going backwards for a year now. No excuse. The guys have to become a team. Poor qualifying each and every race. Setup in q1 is way off always. Need a faster car with better setups. McLaren is eating their lunch. They gotta get serious.
Time and time again we keep getting promises and they always fail to deliver. Yet I'm optimistic each time and left disappointed each time. Now they're touting Hungary with apparently a B spec car coming, it genuinely feels like the 100th time they've come out and hyped up potential upgrades. I shouldn't be optimistic given their recent upgrade history but I can't help but feel optimistic. Eagerly awaiting the Hungary GP...
Fallows took all he could from RBR at the time (legally), hence performance last year. But as RBR have developed, AM have fallen back as Fallows hasn't seen those designs
Same with the 2014 engine regulations. In both cases tho, one team knew every little detail of those regulations. In 2014, it was Mercedes. In 2022, Red Bull. In both cases, the team in question was lobbying the FIA to have rules written to favor them and their strengths. And now for 2026, the rules were written around Audi (although this time Audi didn’t lobby the FIA). So much so in fact that the 2026 engine regulations produce a power unit that is operationally very similar to the unit Audi already runs in DAKAR. With this in mind, it becomes clear who’s dominating in F1 next. F1 isn’t about who’s got the best engineers. It’s about who’s got the biggest pockets and the best negotiation skills so they can buy their way to victory. Utter bullshit
@@mrsoisauce9017It was Mercedes that lobbied for rule changes in the ground effect era as well. Remember the raising of the floor edges in the middle of 2022? Mercedes were crying to have that rule change because they just couldn't stop their car from bouncing like a kangaroo.
@@theairaccumulator7144 The MGU-H is still in there. It’s the more complicated MGU-K that was scrapped. I believe it was the MGU-K that wasn’t adopted in road cars and was a barrier to manufacturers joining
Seems like they have had some problem to develop the car since Seb Vettel left...i wonder if he might have been more valuable for development than one might think.
Vettel was incredibly valuable for Aston Martin, he gave the team much needed direction Now all of that is completely gone, remember Stroll is apparently better at setting up the car (according to Alonso himself)
In the latest regulations era, the teams who have been most honest with their underperformance on specific tracks have taken the biggest leaps in performance when bringing new upgrades
Until they make upgrades that stop harming their pace, I just don't see any hope. Never mind improving relative pace, I'd like this team to at least make upgrades that keeps their position at the top midfield.
It baffles me that literally only two teams have a handle on downforce cars after two and a third seasons. Newey needs to join F1 technical group to create a how to book on car design. Can only be viewed at F1 facility in a SCIF. Or set up a Newey Academy and give very very costly to enrol tutorials. He could make so much money. And his brilliance could be passed on to more designers. And F1 racing would be all the better for it. This would help level the playing field from a knowledge point of view.
Said it at the start of the season. O dont care about all the hires, new facilities, or tech upgrades. I want to see if this team can actively develop the car over a season. This is like what the third year this has happened?
Honestly I don't see any reason why Newey would go to Aston over Ferrari tbh. Ferrari can likely offer more money, more flexibility, and are more prestigious. The only things I can think Aston can offer is they are a UK based team, so Newey wouldn't have to fly to Italy all the time, and they might offer him a share in the team.
No doubt Aston Martin is a big name with big ppl recruitment all over also new factory n wind tunnel and who is planning to take part in Le Mans also soon due to which Alonso felt to continue with them but d problem is he is short of time before he is retiring permanently n he wants to win a championship before that if not a win atleast... which he is unable to do with them ... thus feel a bit of regret to sign up a extension with them now ...😬😬
Nah it’s Alonso - he’s historically been a poor development driver as nearly every team he’s been in gets worse the longer he’s in it. Aston Martin need to do the opposite of whatever he says. Alonso: “The car needs more understeer”. Make the car more oversteery!
@@paperplane-db8qf worst take I’ve ever seen he’s currently got triple the amount of points as stroll And in 2022 when the car was competitive he scored on the podium in 8/9 of the first 9 races and stroll was barely getting the car in the points at all
@@paperplane-db8qfThe development of these cars is much more complicated, than just “good/bad” driver feedback. I’m all for admitting the ire Stroll receives is rarely warranted, but let’s not start tearing Alonso down to balance it out. The man is a monster behind the wheel, he has 100% earned the respect he is given.
They don't even have the wind tunnel operational yet. We can't talk about their big investments not making a difference if they're not even operational yet...
Hi I'm Lawrence Stroll, CEO of Aston Martin and emperor of the galaxy. I am certain that with Mike Krack running the team and Mike Hunt in the cockpit, we will be undisputed masters of the universe within 3-5 years.
C’mon let’s be realistic they have never been a top team since Racing Point. So they having a decent car in the past year might ve been development fluke.
The biggest issue is playing to your kids dreams mate. Ruining a teams potential, employees futures, and everything else that stems from the fact that you won’t tell your kid he’s not meant for this sport. Big bad business man too scared to have a sit down with his own kid is worrying
I wonder if Alonso will pull off the track, find a deck chair and complain that Mercedes have given Aston Martin an engine that only produced "FP2 POWER!"
Honestly if Lawrence was my boss and his son was promised a driver seat indefinitely while also not giving a shit about the car, I don't know how keen I would be to "rapidly improve" at the rate of the other teams
Yes and Alonso being F1's worst for timing moves to and from teams he will leave to rejoin Benetton/Renault/Lotus/Renault/Alpine again to be with his manager Flavio Briatore and Newey will join Aston Martin and Stroll will win the Championship.
The whole Aston team is just so incoherent and lost. It's done nothing to enhance its brand or sales for road going cars. The poor performance of it makes buying a road going car even less appealing as there's no real heritage or legacy to be had from their F1 endeavours yet. Whatever Lawrence's long term plan is, it's not worked for the wider brand and is sadly back to being an F1 team with a logo slapped on by the latest owner.
Lance is not the problem - seems to me that the team is top-heavy with unproven talent. Fallows was aero-guy at Red Bull, but is this showing that he did not have much to do with their success? Contrast with McLaren's TD - Aerodynamics, Rob Marshall. He leaves Red Bull for McLaren in Jan 2024 and by the first upgrade they have shot to the top of the pile.
Why does no-one talk about the pattern this team always has every year? Copy the design of the fastest car in the previous year - come out the gates looks promising - they don't understand the car as well as they think - bring new parts to a car that they don't understand = go backwards.
The problem with Aston is that they are not a company that produces their own cars and engines. That being said, they will never be front runners--just like their road cars--aka, subpar... cars that will never be on top and never the best. Sorry folks, truth hurts, but reality is always that.... reality.
Over the past month or two it seems like AM is more concerned about putting out statements about lance stroll is better than people give him credit for and that he’s actually a champion in waiting, than they are addressing the issues with the car.
Not really. Even the team had another driver that was capable of finishing directly behind Alonso for every race, they would only have another 11 points. They'd still be far behind Mercedes.
Alonso is being held back for Lance. AM was going forward and Lance was struggling. Alonso probably now wants to join Flavio at Alpine after all he has won with him and Flavio is his manager. Drivers like Alonso and Lewis don't have that much time so they have to be cutthroat, and it gets worse when their teams are dragging their feet, and the resources they have aren't matching their performances.
I hope Carlos can replace Fernando in 2026. I think Carlos will go to Williams or Haas for a short term contract and then sign with Aston Martin once they get Honda. Stroll probably divests himself soon as Lance probably gets kicked out once Honda become the manufacturer. Yuki or another Japanese driver will most likely get a spot on the team. I would not be surprised if one of Newey or Horner go to Aston by 2026.
i love how alonso was praising the team last and this season almost halfway through the season aston martin is nowhere to be found makes me think how many more decisions alonso will keep thanking without analyzing his future and career he knows his time in f1 is short and for a driver like him he has wasted a lot of time due to bad decisions making mercedes would’ve been a seat to grab but it is what it is 🤗🤗🤗
Ah yes, here comes the next Alonso's retirement before he gets brought back by another team claiming they'll be championship contenders in the near future
Performance is relative. Aston Martin made a massive jump in 2022 from the beginning to the end of the season. But it's easy to upgrade when the car is bad. Aston aren't bad at making a good car, they are bad at keeping up with the big teams.
Given how the sky is the limit in F1 and thus the bar is set by the fastest/best car at any given point in time - one can say AM is bad at making a good car, presicely because they cannot keep up with the best teams.
Aston improved from the back of the field to challenging McLaren and Alpine by the end of 2022. Then they became the second fastest team at the start of 2023. It’s not easy to improve the second fastest team. The driver change from 2022 to 2023 is the only downgrade: “The driver is one of the best sensors. We’ve got some very good tools and software, but the driver input is key. He’s very motivational, he’s a lovely human being. He pushes everyone in every area, and he’s helped us lift our game.”
@@paperplane-db8qf quote “The driver is one of the best sensors. We’ve got some very good tools and software, but the driver input is key. He’s very motivational, he’s a lovely human being. He pushes everyone in every area, and he’s helped us lift our game.” how nice of them to say about Stroll 😁😂
Yes lmao he does I know lance stroll doesn't deserve his seat but it's pretty clear Lawrence wants to have a team that can deliver a car that is a front runner and his investments prove it... Even if his driver lineup doesn't
Stroll has literally been matching near Alonso the past 5 races. If you think Strolls the problem then you’re just blind. They design the car based on Alonso’s feedback.
@@ohhkida well when the team builds a shitbox to suit Alonso’s driving style then the second driver is going to suffer. Happened with Massa, Kimi, Button, Vandoorne; why wouldn’t it happen with Stroll?
Newey is not the magic bullet people think he is. His core strengths work to ground effect cars (early 1990s, early 2010s and 2022-) where he excels. The next rule set is more engine and mechanical grip dependent so Newey's skills might not matter as much. It could be another engine formula like 2014 was....
It’s not the main problem but when is Lawrence Stroll going to bite the bullet and get rid of his son and get a driver who can actually score decent points.
When the team was Force India and Merc / Red Bull / Ferrari were dominating at the front, they got a crazy amount of podiums. Now that the team is spending just as much money as them and the competition is much closer, they can't get anywhere near the front and get worse every year? (Discounting 2023) There's no way Lawrence Stroll fully knows what he's doing... (as if that wasn't obvious enough from keeping Lance as the driver and forcing everyone to talk about him like he's the next Senna)
It’s just funny that it was 2 whole months ago in April when Alonso basically shit on Mercedes by saying it wasn’t very attractive because it was behind them. And look where we are now.
I think they're on schedule.....2025 will be a turn around. Not sure on 2026. I hear that Mercedes has the best engine for new regs (2026). Renault the worse.....
*Insert obligatory fire Lance Stroll comment here*
Alternate timeline where, at the Spanish Grand Prix, it’s announced that Sainz will be racing alongside Alonso at Aston Martin next year
Problems more Alonso’s poor car feedback than Stroll.
Any team that has Alonso as a number 1 driver becomes more uncompetitive the longer he’s in the team.
First post & it's the obligatory billionaire ass kissing competition.
@@paperplane-db8qf I mean...you aren't wrong......but somehow...you are?
@@paperplane-db8qf This is actually true
Aston's #1 problem has always been understanding their car.
Only having 1 driver is the bigger issue
nope, the #1 problem is the rich autistic child/driver
I'd let off Fallows for downgrading Andy Green's car last year, but not being able to upgrade his own is telling
@@damag3plan That won't solve the car issue.
@@damag3planthey could have a line up of verstappen and norris and they would be in the same position.
Alonso praying for a Brawn gp situation for 2026. Win like 9 races and hope the car is good enough throughout the season for consistent top 6 finishing possiitons because Aston Martin does not know how to upgrade a car! 😭
😂 the best upgrade they can do is boot stroll.
@@prozoomythe best upgrade they can do is replace Alonso with Ocon.
@@paperplane-db8qf ocon vs stroll would be an awesome comedy show but i dont think it would help aston
@@paperplane-db8qf why would they replace Alonso when he is the one scoring the points when the car is suitable to. Stroll doesn't even out qualify or place ahead of Alonso very often.
@@tritekk Aston May finally pick up their only win in F1. Either way they aren’t going anywhere with Alonso.
Car feels good. Much slower than before. Amazing.
slow and steady wins the race.
Nobody ever misses an opportunity to say "Mike Crack"
How about "Ass Crack"? 8:58
urgh i dont wanna know about your crack lol ( my housemate every time that name is said by me or the commentators ha ha )
Mike is on Crack.
Literally like one of those troll kahoot names
It is hard to see AM as serious as long as Lance Stroll is taking a seat.
as simple as it gets
Well neither drivers are doing anything special the past few races with Alonso himself getting knocked out of Q1.
🎯
How can one argue with that....?
@@paperplane-db8qf
If the car is so shit that even Alonso can't make some hay with it.. and Stroll is behind him as usual.. Pretty clear the car is dragging
Newey needs to go to Williams. That’s a movie level story. Leaving RB and going back to Williams and winning? Cmon
probably a prerequisite of a sainz signing
Sainz and Newey would make Williams a true competitor, quicker than anyone else, especially Aston Martin.
Give Newey a stake in the team, that he didn't get the first time causing him to leave, and he'll love Williams all over again!
Would LOVE to see Ferrari, McLaren and Williams at the top of the pile. Merc, Red Bull & Aston Martin can fight for 4th. That's my ideal outcome for 2030. Such a long shot tho.
This is exactly what I've been wishing for. Screw the other teams, go out with a bang
Newey is great but all of a sudden turning Williams into a winning team is a tough ask.
Newey in his golden retirement years would much rather align himself with Ferrari as it hits two birds with one stone. Besides, Ferrari isn’t far off of the pace from RB. Williams on the other hand? That’s not a fun project when your pushing almost 70
When your car struggles in long corners and slow speed sections… you gotta wonder where it excels 😂
straights?
It’s strong in the paddock.
"AM is going backwards" *relatively*, in an incredibly tight pack where convergence is now real.
Totally agree. They've been going backwards for a year now. No excuse. The guys have to become a team. Poor qualifying each and every race. Setup in q1 is way off always. Need a faster car with better setups. McLaren is eating their lunch. They gotta get serious.
Lance needs to go, he's bringing the team down
Not talking about the FIA TD issued to Aston to take their front wing away is leaving a huge point of the problem out
Time and time again we keep getting promises and they always fail to deliver. Yet I'm optimistic each time and left disappointed each time. Now they're touting Hungary with apparently a B spec car coming, it genuinely feels like the 100th time they've come out and hyped up potential upgrades. I shouldn't be optimistic given their recent upgrade history but I can't help but feel optimistic. Eagerly awaiting the Hungary GP...
Fallows took all he could from RBR at the time (legally), hence performance last year. But as RBR have developed, AM have fallen back as Fallows hasn't seen those designs
Getting outscored by Alpine triggered this warning
It is wild how few teams understand how to build a car under these regulations now in the third year of them.
Same with the 2014 engine regulations. In both cases tho, one team knew every little detail of those regulations. In 2014, it was Mercedes. In 2022, Red Bull. In both cases, the team in question was lobbying the FIA to have rules written to favor them and their strengths. And now for 2026, the rules were written around Audi (although this time Audi didn’t lobby the FIA). So much so in fact that the 2026 engine regulations produce a power unit that is operationally very similar to the unit Audi already runs in DAKAR. With this in mind, it becomes clear who’s dominating in F1 next. F1 isn’t about who’s got the best engineers. It’s about who’s got the biggest pockets and the best negotiation skills so they can buy their way to victory. Utter bullshit
@@mrsoisauce9017It was Mercedes that lobbied for rule changes in the ground effect era as well. Remember the raising of the floor edges in the middle of 2022? Mercedes were crying to have that rule change because they just couldn't stop their car from bouncing like a kangaroo.
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 I know about that part, but the point is that the overall 2022 ground effect regulations were written to benefit Red Bull
@@mrsoisauce9017 sad they got rid of MGU-H when it's one of the only F1 technologies that has actually worked it's way into high performance road cars
@@theairaccumulator7144 The MGU-H is still in there. It’s the more complicated MGU-K that was scrapped. I believe it was the MGU-K that wasn’t adopted in road cars and was a barrier to manufacturers joining
Lawrence Stroll can stomp his feet and cry all he wants. Nothing he can say will improve performance.
Seems like they have had some problem to develop the car since Seb Vettel left...i wonder if he might have been more valuable for development than one might think.
I dont think AM technical team.know what they are doing.
Feel bad for Alonso.
Vettel was incredibly valuable for Aston Martin, he gave the team much needed direction
Now all of that is completely gone, remember Stroll is apparently better at setting up the car (according to Alonso himself)
In the latest regulations era, the teams who have been most honest with their underperformance on specific tracks have taken the biggest leaps in performance when bringing new upgrades
Can you make a chart of their super times deficit with a moving average since stroll took conltrol?
Until they make upgrades that stop harming their pace, I just don't see any hope. Never mind improving relative pace, I'd like this team to at least make upgrades that keeps their position at the top midfield.
It baffles me that literally only two teams have a handle on downforce cars after two and a third seasons. Newey needs to join F1 technical group to create a how to book on car design. Can only be viewed at F1 facility in a SCIF. Or set up a Newey Academy and give very very costly to enrol tutorials. He could make so much money. And his brilliance could be passed on to more designers. And F1 racing would be all the better for it. This would help level the playing field from a knowledge point of view.
What wrong is going on with AMR I don't understand. Very frustrating.
Said it at the start of the season. O dont care about all the hires, new facilities, or tech upgrades. I want to see if this team can actively develop the car over a season. This is like what the third year this has happened?
By sheer coincidence, Lance Stroll announced his contract extension. Daddy is the best.
Honestly I don't see any reason why Newey would go to Aston over Ferrari tbh. Ferrari can likely offer more money, more flexibility, and are more prestigious. The only things I can think Aston can offer is they are a UK based team, so Newey wouldn't have to fly to Italy all the time, and they might offer him a share in the team.
They said start of season, they didn't keep up in development last year, it wont happen again. They're now slower than the alpines
Ah, for the next year, we'll hear all the blame put on the new wind tunnel not correlating with the CFD models and the real track performance.
Understanding the shitshow AM is now is understanding the father and son dynamic presented to us last year
No doubt Aston Martin is a big name with big ppl recruitment all over also new factory n wind tunnel and who is planning to take part in Le Mans also soon due to which Alonso felt to continue with them but d problem is he is short of time before he is retiring permanently n he wants to win a championship before that if not a win atleast... which he is unable to do with them ... thus feel a bit of regret to sign up a extension with them now ...😬😬
Maybe lance is not giving enough data for the engineers to work on..
Not Stroll but Drugovich. He's their test/reserve driver and the driver putting in the most development work.
Nah it’s Alonso - he’s historically been a poor development driver as nearly every team he’s been in gets worse the longer he’s in it.
Aston Martin need to do the opposite of whatever he says.
Alonso: “The car needs more understeer”. Make the car more oversteery!
@@paperplane-db8qf worst take I’ve ever seen he’s currently got triple the amount of points as stroll
And in 2022 when the car was competitive he scored on the podium in 8/9 of the first 9 races and stroll was barely getting the car in the points at all
@@MaljigYou mean 2023, 2022 was Vettel/Stroll.
@@paperplane-db8qfThe development of these cars is much more complicated, than just “good/bad” driver feedback. I’m all for admitting the ire Stroll receives is rarely warranted, but let’s not start tearing Alonso down to balance it out. The man is a monster behind the wheel, he has 100% earned the respect he is given.
They don't even have the wind tunnel operational yet. We can't talk about their big investments not making a difference if they're not even operational yet...
Hi I'm Lawrence Stroll, CEO of Aston Martin and emperor of the galaxy. I am certain that with Mike Krack running the team and Mike Hunt in the cockpit, we will be undisputed masters of the universe within 3-5 years.
well, somebody that's won at the top level and has > 20 years F1 experience NEEDS TO BE LISTENED TO !!!!!!
And they’ve re-signed Lance for multiple years showing, once again, that Lawrence isn’t serious about winning
They also announced Lance's contract extension (big surprise). They're cooked
C’mon let’s be realistic they have never been a top team since Racing Point. So they having a decent car in the past year might ve been development fluke.
Get well soon, Edd!
So it wasn't just me that thought his voice sounded abit different, not as Edd Straw-dinary (Sorry, I just had to)
The biggest issue is playing to your kids dreams mate. Ruining a teams potential, employees futures, and everything else that stems from the fact that you won’t tell your kid he’s not meant for this sport. Big bad business man too scared to have a sit down with his own kid is worrying
NEWEY TO ASTON SHEEEEESH
I wonder if Alonso will pull off the track, find a deck chair and
complain that Mercedes have given Aston Martin an engine
that only produced "FP2 POWER!"
Only if throwing money at problems solved them.
For fuck sake, someone give this man a proper car before he retires!
Why doesn’t Lance wanna take a management role? He’d have the best mentor he could ask for. He could become the team manager young and make history.
Alpine is #5 team now.
Honestly if Lawrence was my boss and his son was promised a driver seat indefinitely while also not giving a shit about the car, I don't know how keen I would be to "rapidly improve" at the rate of the other teams
Yes and Alonso being F1's worst for timing moves to and from teams he will leave to rejoin Benetton/Renault/Lotus/Renault/Alpine again to be with his manager Flavio Briatore and Newey will join Aston Martin and Stroll will win the Championship.
Honeymoon is over for Alonso and Aston Martin. Looking forward for gp2 engine and no more radio for the rest of the race.
The whole Aston team is just so incoherent and lost. It's done nothing to enhance its brand or sales for road going cars. The poor performance of it makes buying a road going car even less appealing as there's no real heritage or legacy to be had from their F1 endeavours yet. Whatever Lawrence's long term plan is, it's not worked for the wider brand and is sadly back to being an F1 team with a logo slapped on by the latest owner.
We got Alonso burning bridges again before GTA 6
Lance is not the problem - seems to me that the team is top-heavy with unproven talent. Fallows was aero-guy at Red Bull, but is this showing that he did not have much to do with their success?
Contrast with McLaren's TD - Aerodynamics, Rob Marshall. He leaves Red Bull for McLaren in Jan 2024 and by the first upgrade they have shot to the top of the pile.
windowlicker
This is exactly what seb felt lol
They need fire daddy’s little boy.. atleast then they will have two point scoring cars
The biggest dishonesty is keeping Lance Stroll on the grid and pretending he’s good enough for f1
Bro realized that he should have taken the Merc seat instead 💀
Why does no-one talk about the pattern this team always has every year? Copy the design of the fastest car in the previous year - come out the gates looks promising - they don't understand the car as well as they think - bring new parts to a car that they don't understand = go backwards.
The problem with Aston is that they are not a company that produces their own cars and engines. That being said, they will never be front runners--just like their road cars--aka, subpar... cars that will never be on top and never the best. Sorry folks, truth hurts, but reality is always that.... reality.
Out with Lance S. Troll.
There. Just had to get that outta my system. It happens every time I see green.
El Plan in shambles.
I think being part of a pay to win team affects morale. Everyone knows it’s just daddy’s money
Is this an A.I. Ed Straw?
The one team that needs Adrian Newey other than Williams
Aston Martin car “i feel like no one gets me”
Over the past month or two it seems like AM is more concerned about putting out statements about lance stroll is better than people give him credit for and that he’s actually a champion in waiting, than they are addressing the issues with the car.
Lance Stroll out, Aston Martin up.
Not really. Even the team had another driver that was capable of finishing directly behind Alonso for every race, they would only have another 11 points. They'd still be far behind Mercedes.
@@t-mar9275 His attitude is so bad for team.
... to p5 in the constructors
Which available driver you think would be an upgrade?
@@stuartleckie Drugovich
Problem: Many.
Solution: Remove Lance Strool.
Correction 1:30 " It's a stroll way short of achieving its objective "
Sack Perez and strap Fernando to his RB seat. Sit back and enjoy!!
Alonso is being held back for Lance. AM was going forward and Lance was struggling. Alonso probably now wants to join Flavio at Alpine after all he has won with him and Flavio is his manager. Drivers like Alonso and Lewis don't have that much time so they have to be cutthroat, and it gets worse when their teams are dragging their feet, and the resources they have aren't matching their performances.
Give the Stroll family the boot, find new investors. That's all they can do at this point.
I hope Carlos can replace Fernando in 2026. I think Carlos will go to Williams or Haas for a short term contract and then sign with Aston Martin once they get Honda. Stroll probably divests himself soon as Lance probably gets kicked out once Honda become the manufacturer. Yuki or another Japanese driver will most likely get a spot on the team. I would not be surprised if one of Newey or Horner go to Aston by 2026.
Why isn't Stroll's patience ever tested about his son? Alonso and a hot proven rookie would be much better.
Lance is on crack
i love how alonso was praising the team last and this season almost halfway through the season aston martin is nowhere to be found makes me think how many more decisions alonso will keep thanking without analyzing his future and career he knows his time in f1 is short and for a driver like him he has wasted a lot of time due to bad decisions making mercedes would’ve been a seat to grab but it is what it is 🤗🤗🤗
GP2 team.
Ah yes, here comes the next Alonso's retirement before he gets brought back by another team claiming they'll be championship contenders in the near future
Downgrades incoming
Aston WON'T be a serious team if they keep Lance.
Aston Martin is one more proof that whipping the hell out of people doesn't get you better results.
117 to 37😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Performance is relative. Aston Martin made a massive jump in 2022 from the beginning to the end of the season. But it's easy to upgrade when the car is bad. Aston aren't bad at making a good car, they are bad at keeping up with the big teams.
true
Hence, making a mediocre car in the long run. Lol
Given how the sky is the limit in F1 and thus the bar is set by the fastest/best car at any given point in time - one can say AM is bad at making a good car, presicely because they cannot keep up with the best teams.
Aston improved from the back of the field to challenging McLaren and Alpine by the end of 2022.
Then they became the second fastest team at the start of 2023.
It’s not easy to improve the second fastest team.
The driver change from 2022 to 2023 is the only downgrade:
“The driver is one of the best sensors. We’ve got some very good tools and software, but the driver input is key. He’s very motivational, he’s a lovely human being. He pushes everyone in every area, and he’s helped us lift our game.”
@@paperplane-db8qf quote “The driver is one of the best sensors. We’ve got some very good tools and software, but the driver input is key. He’s very motivational, he’s a lovely human being. He pushes everyone in every area, and he’s helped us lift our game.”
how nice of them to say about Stroll 😁😂
Every upgrade Aston brings they get slower
Might as well add pin wheels and a bicycle bell to the car.
Downgrades
Their only solace is that their closest competition, VCARB, is having the same issue
AM is joke
The car feels good
Much zlower than before, amazing
Ohhhh, come on Fernando. Stroll Sr. is busy keeping Stroll Jr. in the sport. You think he cares how the car performs?
Exactly... Aston Martin being in F1 as a midfield team is good enough for him.
He'll make a ton of money anyways.
Yes lmao he does I know lance stroll doesn't deserve his seat but it's pretty clear Lawrence wants to have a team that can deliver a car that is a front runner and his investments prove it... Even if his driver lineup doesn't
Stroll has literally been matching near Alonso the past 5 races.
If you think Strolls the problem then you’re just blind. They design the car based on Alonso’s feedback.
@@paperplane-db8qf So do 5 races overshadow the massive deficit he had all the time??
@@ohhkida well when the team builds a shitbox to suit Alonso’s driving style then the second driver is going to suffer.
Happened with Massa, Kimi, Button, Vandoorne; why wouldn’t it happen with Stroll?
Alonso and Sainz would be such a good duo
Sorry, Fernando. Unless Lance complains, Daddy doesn't care.
Newey is not the magic bullet people think he is. His core strengths work to ground effect cars (early 1990s, early 2010s and 2022-) where he excels. The next rule set is more engine and mechanical grip dependent so Newey's skills might not matter as much. It could be another engine formula like 2014 was....
It’s not the main problem but when is Lawrence Stroll going to bite the bullet and get rid of his son and get a driver who can actually score decent points.
No. Its his son for god sake. He won't take his hands off that
Our only hope is for Lance to man up and tell his dad he quits. But Lance is too much of a weak bitch to do that.
@@LouisRose-h5v and the team is in the bin because it's all centered around someone who just doesn't have the talent for the ambition of the team.
I don't even care for the glue eater, just giving Alonso a car that can fight for podiums is enough.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksthe team is centered around Alonso, not Stroll.
This is known as the law of diminishing returns. It’s relatively easier to go from 9th to 5th but that much harder to go from 5th to 3rd.
a Billion dollars per 1/10second.
As long as Lance Stroll is a driver Laurence Stroll is not serious about being front runner...
It says something above how incredible the achievement of Eddie Jordan that late 90s is still the best period of this teams history
remove the window licker... and get a good driver that delievers good information and points, problem solved
You could say it all started going wrong when Fallows joined, seems like he wasn't the most attentive in the school of Newey
Everything started going well when he joined the team lmao. Shows how smart F1 fans really are
When the team was Force India and Merc / Red Bull / Ferrari were dominating at the front, they got a crazy amount of podiums. Now that the team is spending just as much money as them and the competition is much closer, they can't get anywhere near the front and get worse every year? (Discounting 2023) There's no way Lawrence Stroll fully knows what he's doing... (as if that wasn't obvious enough from keeping Lance as the driver and forcing everyone to talk about him like he's the next Senna)
Adrian Newey is absolutely not going to AM.
Yea. They just extended Lance Stroll 😊😂😅😂😅
I don't know hiw anyone takes that team seriously.
Why would a top tier engineer like Adrian join when the owner's son gets a free ride
It’s just funny that it was 2 whole months ago in April when Alonso basically shit on Mercedes by saying it wasn’t very attractive because it was behind them.
And look where we are now.
It just goes to show that throwing money at a project doesn't always work. Force India achieved pretty much the same on a much lower budget.
What was the comment about Newey “inevitably” going to AM???
Listen again
@@procatprocat9647 no
Relatively, how does the Stroll-to-Alonzo gap compare to the Perez-to-Verstappen gap?
I think they're on schedule.....2025 will be a turn around. Not sure on 2026. I hear that Mercedes has the best engine for new regs (2026). Renault the worse.....