Chris, great advice as usual. Working on staying sideways is a real project for me, because of some bad muscle memory. And a natural tendency to open up. But as you point out, the science is in! Gotta do it!
Very good video. The elbow-up through impact is my main control point for not slicing my kickserve. Adjusting the ball-toss and striktly staying sideways, especially on the kick, is imo not as difficult as not falling into the more supinated forearm position and the swing path of a slice serve, when you go back and forth between all three serves in matches. That‘s always been the most difficult thing for me, making all three serve variants work consistently in the same session, so I usually go with a fast paced, not very spinny slice with some top-spin for trajectory as 1st serve and my kick for 2nd and 1st serve variant. Against lefties I pretty much only use different slices. One of my favorite serves against right handers is a fast kick through the middle on the deuce side. Imo most underused serve variant.
Hi Chris! Great Tips to follow! I have the following question for you! My daughter is 12 and she lives for tennis! It is her passion! She had learned until now almost learned the power or the cannonball serve or the flat serve as you wish :) and on tournaments when her first serve does not go in, her second serve is a flat serve but you know because the first was a fault she is hesitant to put more power to it and just pushes the ball into the service field! She does that because she has not trained for slice or kick serve! She does not know how to do them! We would like for her to start learning either slice or kick serve! Now, some trainers say she should not start with learning the slice on this age because that could potentially ruin her flat serve! You know, it is a ver different movement! And soo they say she should start with first learning the kick serve! And later on, i don't know, when she has a very solid flat serve should she be starting with the slice serve! Is there any truth in those considerations? If you can shortly unfold on that! I would appreciate it a universe! And by the way, where can I send you some videos of her technique! I would like to hear your opinion on some certain things that she does! Thanks man for your time and consideration! God Bless!
Yes my brother. Send videos to my WhatsApp. That logic doesn’t make any sense to me. She can easily learn a slice serve and most girls have very good slice and flat serves. That’s my take. Your daughter’s situation is common. She really needs to learn a good slice to complement her flat serve my friend.
Hi Chris Ryan at 2minutetennis said to hit balls over a fence-I probably hit 900 over six weeks. I shot a video of me hitting a kicker into the ad court today. I looked like a complete klutz chasing a bad toss, but somehow I hit the ball just right-it landed near the sideline and bounced as high as the upper vent of the windscreen. Old people can do this, though I did open up early. I’ll use your tip to work on staying side on. Thanks. Jeff
Sorry Chris, but clearly there is pronation on sliced serves. Instead, there are unfortunately so many tennis teachers who teach with a slight supination to wrap the ball and therefore without pronation. The gesture is so fast that it's not always possible to see the pronation even in slow motion. And it seems to me that sometimes players don't pronate on certain sliced serves (Tiafoe ?) Someone really needs to ask the top 10 players to remove all doubt forever. examples : Raonic, Thiem Raonic : ruclips.net/user/shorts6KqY74CXmUU Thiem : ruclips.net/video/2bJa2CNgiZY/видео.html
Hello my friend. The higher level pros especially men typically do pronate after the slice but not all and not all females too. In this case, I have not found it beneficial to teach learning players and young juniors to pronate after the slice. It has not helped me teach the slice as a cue. That’s my feedback. High speed video can always capture pronation.
I Mo my experience teaching with a neutral wrist position and the typical carving chopping slicing cue is much not effective even though it’s not what the top pros do at high speed.
This explains why Sampras had his back parallel to the baseline. He could turn his shoulders to side on and hit that kick with much more power and spin than anyone else who just starts side on.
@@ChrisLewit I meant, when you did your kick serve, there was little to no trunk rotation from racket drop to contact. Since Sampras's shoulders are parallel to the base line, he has almost 80-90 degrees of trunk rotation to contact (in the same side on position you had). He gets a ton more velocity and spin.
Let me know any technique serve questions amigos!
Chris, great advice as usual. Working on staying sideways is a real project for me, because of some bad muscle memory. And a natural tendency to open up. But as you point out, the science is in! Gotta do it!
Keep it up my friend!
Thanks!
Thank you very much my friend
Great video! 🤗
Awesome
Awesome video 🎉
Thanks amigo
No nonsense, easy to follow advice from a very credible instructor.
Appreciate this very much!
Thankyou for the great help
Thank you!
Puzzle pieces falling into place ty.
Super. Let me know any technical questions
Excellent explanation!💪👍
Thank you my friend!
Very good video.
The elbow-up through impact is my main control point for not slicing my kickserve. Adjusting the ball-toss and striktly staying sideways, especially on the kick, is imo not as difficult as not falling into the more supinated forearm position and the swing path of a slice serve, when you go back and forth between all three serves in matches.
That‘s always been the most difficult thing for me, making all three serve variants work consistently in the same session, so I usually go with a fast paced, not very spinny slice with some top-spin for trajectory as 1st serve and my kick for 2nd and 1st serve variant. Against lefties I pretty much only use different slices. One of my favorite serves against right handers is a fast kick through the middle on the deuce side. Imo most underused serve variant.
Very good feedback. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Chris! Great Tips to follow! I have the following question for you! My daughter is 12 and she lives for tennis! It is her passion! She had learned until now almost learned the power or the cannonball serve or the flat serve as you wish :) and on tournaments when her first serve does not go in, her second serve is a flat serve but you know because the first was a fault she is hesitant to put more power to it and just pushes the ball into the service field! She does that because she has not trained for slice or kick serve! She does not know how to do them! We would like for her to start learning either slice or kick serve! Now, some trainers say she should not start with learning the slice on this age because that could potentially ruin her flat serve! You know, it is a ver different movement! And soo they say she should start with first learning the kick serve! And later on, i don't know, when she has a very solid flat serve should she be starting with the slice serve! Is there any truth in those considerations? If you can shortly unfold on that! I would appreciate it a universe! And by the way, where can I send you some videos of her technique! I would like to hear your opinion on some certain things that she does! Thanks man for your time and consideration! God Bless!
Yes my brother. Send videos to my WhatsApp. That logic doesn’t make any sense to me. She can easily learn a slice serve and most girls have very good slice and flat serves. That’s my take. Your daughter’s situation is common. She really needs to learn a good slice to complement her flat serve my friend.
@@ChrisLewit Thanks a bunch, Chris! I appreciate it! I will send you some videos and ask for your professional opinion! Thanks once more!
@jesuscomes970 thank you amigo
Man, I have to get up to Vermont!
Please come visit for the best training in the US
Can you do a slice from ad side pls
Thank you my friend. We have a video on the channel Don’t Slice Your Kick which does show slice on ad. But maybe we can do another video in future.
Hi Chris
Ryan at 2minutetennis said to hit balls over a fence-I probably hit 900 over six weeks. I shot a video of me hitting a kicker into the ad court today. I looked like a complete klutz chasing a bad toss, but somehow I hit the ball just right-it landed near the sideline and bounced as high as the upper vent of the windscreen. Old people can do this, though I did open up early. I’ll use your tip to work on staying side on.
Thanks. Jeff
I’m definitely very wimpy with my racket 😅
Keep working on it!
Sorry Chris, but clearly there is pronation on sliced serves. Instead, there are unfortunately so many tennis teachers who teach with a slight supination to wrap the ball and therefore without pronation.
The gesture is so fast that it's not always possible to see the pronation even in slow motion.
And it seems to me that sometimes players don't pronate on certain sliced serves (Tiafoe ?)
Someone really needs to ask the top 10 players to remove all doubt forever.
examples : Raonic, Thiem
Raonic : ruclips.net/user/shorts6KqY74CXmUU
Thiem : ruclips.net/video/2bJa2CNgiZY/видео.html
Hello my friend. The higher level pros especially men typically do pronate after the slice but not all and not all females too. In this case, I have not found it beneficial to teach learning players and young juniors to pronate after the slice. It has not helped me teach the slice as a cue. That’s my feedback. High speed video can always capture pronation.
I Mo my experience teaching with a neutral wrist position and the typical carving chopping slicing cue is much not effective even though it’s not what the top pros do at high speed.
I also stated that there is pronation on slice serves in the video in agreement with your point.
Thanks for your feedback.
This explains why Sampras had his back parallel to the baseline. He could turn his shoulders to side on and hit that kick with much more power and spin than anyone else who just starts side on.
That big trunk rotation is important yes
@@ChrisLewit I meant, when you did your kick serve, there was little to no trunk rotation from racket drop to contact. Since Sampras's shoulders are parallel to the base line, he has almost 80-90 degrees of trunk rotation to contact (in the same side on position you had). He gets a ton more velocity and spin.
@gabrielteo3636 thanks for sharing.
@@gabrielteo3636that’s cool, about Sampras. If I get my toss tamed a bit more, I’ll work on coiling more.
None of those kick serves are kicking.
Thanks but they totally are. It’s not a full speed drill or max swing drill. It’s designed to get spin and the position of the body right.