the pantheon is a classic case of "make sure you're right before you open your mouth or you end up looking like an absolute moron". the whole point of pushing lanes with towers when you have baron is to open up the base and get the inhib. the point of getting inhibs is spawning super minions to increase your map pressure so you get more objectives. you don't push lanes with downed inhibs unless you can end the game because the enemies are already there waiting to clear the supers. you push lanes without the downed inhibs so they have to split their resources to defend the siege and the supers (ideally you escort the supers to the base so they hit at the same time as the siege and then rotate for the siege) and then you get the remaining towers/inhibs more easily. you only siege with supers in lane once you're sure you can win the game or you can 1v2 the defenders because otherwise it's a waste of time just standing there with supers throwing poke at an enemy that can run back to fountain and heal up in 10s. the pantheon thought he was real smart by saying that oh they get 2 inhibs worth of supers of gold and exp, which is like, the reason you don't get inhibs too early since you can't capitalise on the pressure. but once you can capitalise on the pressure, like getting more objectives or jungle control, the amount of gold and exp they're getting doesn't matter nearly as much as he thinks it does.
As a zyra main, I will tell you, almost NOBODY in low elo understands her kit or how positioning works, and they get mad frustrated all the time when they don’t
He plays Zyra like a skillshot mage moreso than a control mage. His combos have improved over the years, and ofc he has amazing Es and has good plant placement, but he could do more. If he took better advantage of his W uptime during laning phase and midgame, that would help improve his play even further than it already has. When he's engaging on Zyra, he's measuring the distance between himself and the enemy based upon his safety when he could instead be measuring the extent of his own threat range like Brand is in this video. Brand's face-checking bushes, gets lit up a bit, and will still turn around once someone is in range to drop the wombo. Zyra can do that with better range, especially when you're keeping seeds in play properly. I'll add that, again, his Zyra is really good, and it's only gotten better over the years. I used to avoid the Zyra videos, but he lands a lot of really good kills.
I'm halfway through the rest of the video and STILL trying to figure out what Kha'zix wanted Zwag to do for him after he was surrounded by the enemy team, got full combo'd by Brand, and burned out from the Ignite
For fucks sake! I just thought the whole "zwag putting people to sleep with his dulcet tones" was a running joke. But here I am dozing off while watching him.
@@MaxPowerisimono, I literally comment once because of how I use zwag videos to sleep 😂 it actually works, I dozed off while listening to him speaking
A trick that I used on zyra back when she was one of my mains- though I am iron league nowadays- was to drop a W right on the enemy, after spellcasts, when it looked like I was about to hit. There's kind of a window when you know you're going to hit or not, and W at least used to be zero mana, so unless you're saving up for an ult combo you really want it to always be on cooldown. I also extremely preferred Q plants to E plants. E plants might hit harder I think, but often the enemy is rooted right next to it and autos it down immediately, whereas a Q plant gets a couple shots off, or at least helps push. This strategy isn't the best for lane management, but it pokes people out of lane REAL fast. (I think plants spawned by Q will immediately prioritize champs that the Q hit)
I also really liked a second point in W early (like 5 or 7), or even keeping it even with E. But it's been balanced a lot since then I'm sure. I just remember the second point was enough of a cooldown reduction, combined with buffing the plants, that it squeezed more power out of her passive in the early game.
For real, mid to late is a cluster. Not that I don't screw it up a lot too, but just having a plan and sticking to it is huge mid game on. I feel like there should be a designated tactician each match with super pings. Everyone feels like a hero in laning phase, and can't give up that power to play as a team.
Only tip I'd give is that when you know where the enemy team is and you don't have any immediate use for your plants(such as fighting enemies), drop your seeds nearby. Seeds are only limited by their cooldown and having more seeds already placed before the start of a fight is always bonus advantage. You should generally be at 1/2 charges at all times except right before a fight.
If I remember correctly, her plant damage doesnt really scale with your AP, so its better to get DPS/Haste items on her if you are aiming for more damage. But your other spells still hits hard tho
You must be new here . Zwag plays on low elo because it's better for content creating , he did play on other elo , he have a separate channel for that.. he have 3 channel total
Zyra is my favvvvvv I’ve been spamming her on the mobile league game after I asked for her to be added to the app, her moves are slightly different quite cool, but do agree with you my hands are dead after playing it for a while 😂
Oy ! Here is a funny idea : same build on a support or jungle support (like Ivern/Morg ) with a twist: redemption and item cdr : nuclear blast redemption, Crit / burn / explode with shadowflame, Liandry, luden
I don't care if it is normals, or low elo, or whatever. If you see a mage that uses plants as turrets, it should be more than obvious that said mage shouldn't be in melee range of anyone
Everytime I watch you play mid. Most of the time you never come to your jungler aid when you know your enemy is going towards their path, or when your jungler is in trouble. It either too late and get flamed. Or too late and yet you still get kills xD and now you’re the carry.
Oh yeah, I can’t remember most Legends (don’t play just watch this channel) but I know and click on all Zyra videos. If I played I’d like to play her, she seems fun and noob friendly lol
That’s dumb lol. Next you’ll tell me that if I join the Air Force I’ll be called a Marine. I’m not dumbing myself down to fit the norm. It’s League of Legends, I’ll call them Legends :P@@khalmog836
the pantheon is a classic case of "make sure you're right before you open your mouth or you end up looking like an absolute moron". the whole point of pushing lanes with towers when you have baron is to open up the base and get the inhib. the point of getting inhibs is spawning super minions to increase your map pressure so you get more objectives. you don't push lanes with downed inhibs unless you can end the game because the enemies are already there waiting to clear the supers. you push lanes without the downed inhibs so they have to split their resources to defend the siege and the supers (ideally you escort the supers to the base so they hit at the same time as the siege and then rotate for the siege) and then you get the remaining towers/inhibs more easily.
you only siege with supers in lane once you're sure you can win the game or you can 1v2 the defenders because otherwise it's a waste of time just standing there with supers throwing poke at an enemy that can run back to fountain and heal up in 10s. the pantheon thought he was real smart by saying that oh they get 2 inhibs worth of supers of gold and exp, which is like, the reason you don't get inhibs too early since you can't capitalise on the pressure. but once you can capitalise on the pressure, like getting more objectives or jungle control, the amount of gold and exp they're getting doesn't matter nearly as much as he thinks it does.
This is insightful, thank you. Another dumb thing Pantheon did was not listen to the best player in the game
As a zyra main, I will tell you, almost NOBODY in low elo understands her kit or how positioning works, and they get mad frustrated all the time when they don’t
+1 here - same problems.
Ok but there he just played KDA that was not a good positionning
@@nowzz6816It was. Going into the enemy team by positioning too far ahead would have just gotten him killed.
@@nowzz6816 no way you really said he hadnt a good positioning
He plays Zyra like a skillshot mage moreso than a control mage. His combos have improved over the years, and ofc he has amazing Es and has good plant placement, but he could do more.
If he took better advantage of his W uptime during laning phase and midgame, that would help improve his play even further than it already has. When he's engaging on Zyra, he's measuring the distance between himself and the enemy based upon his safety when he could instead be measuring the extent of his own threat range like Brand is in this video. Brand's face-checking bushes, gets lit up a bit, and will still turn around once someone is in range to drop the wombo. Zyra can do that with better range, especially when you're keeping seeds in play properly.
I'll add that, again, his Zyra is really good, and it's only gotten better over the years. I used to avoid the Zyra videos, but he lands a lot of really good kills.
Pantheon was beyond stupid ugh. Let Zyra do all the preliminary work, dive, steal the kills and then die, then flame the mage and call them a support.
All he had to do was sit on Zwag and W whoever was diving lol
"I'll bury myself in the garden and pretend I'm a carrot, Kha'zix just for you."
Now where did THAT ONE come from? :D
13:38
I'm halfway through the rest of the video and STILL trying to figure out what Kha'zix wanted Zwag to do for him after he was surrounded by the enemy team, got full combo'd by Brand, and burned out from the Ignite
That made me laugh out loud for real. Imma use this quote.
that pantheon ... on my nerves too bro
omg at the end when he is pinging the Yi "fight the 1v5 Yi zyra" i wanted to call the police because being that dumb makes you a danger to everybody
that pantheon thinking he is carrying the game 😭😭😭😭
If you ever feel stupid, remember that pantheon.
For fucks sake! I just thought the whole "zwag putting people to sleep with his dulcet tones" was a running joke. But here I am dozing off while watching him.
I litterally watch him every night before sleep
@@razzor9935 wait... so i'm not the only one? yayyy i'm not a psycopath lol
@@MaxPowerisimo nope hah.
Same, if I watch a zwag video and I am a little tired, he sends me to sleep
@@MaxPowerisimono, I literally comment once because of how I use zwag videos to sleep 😂 it actually works, I dozed off while listening to him speaking
😂 i love how this pantheon is complaining like he isnt getting absolutely carried.
Did everyone miss him talking like the bausffs at 31:36??? xD that shit is so funny
panth with the double digit deaths talking?? mad. he isnt even trying to SUPPORT the team like he is supposed to looolll
1:48 and 50:08 liked the missed cannons
don't forget 28:55
@@cobbla and 28:55 ofc
A trick that I used on zyra back when she was one of my mains- though I am iron league nowadays- was to drop a W right on the enemy, after spellcasts, when it looked like I was about to hit. There's kind of a window when you know you're going to hit or not, and W at least used to be zero mana, so unless you're saving up for an ult combo you really want it to always be on cooldown. I also extremely preferred Q plants to E plants. E plants might hit harder I think, but often the enemy is rooted right next to it and autos it down immediately, whereas a Q plant gets a couple shots off, or at least helps push. This strategy isn't the best for lane management, but it pokes people out of lane REAL fast. (I think plants spawned by Q will immediately prioritize champs that the Q hit)
I also really liked a second point in W early (like 5 or 7), or even keeping it even with E. But it's been balanced a lot since then I'm sure. I just remember the second point was enough of a cooldown reduction, combined with buffing the plants, that it squeezed more power out of her passive in the early game.
5:40 thats what she said
That second game was such a stomp, I'm really glad you had something like that after the first one you had to deal with.
Zwag is my VIBE creator bro. Sometimes just play some TFT and watch this madlad decimate on the rift.
42:33 emotiza insana de la Qiyana XD
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!!
Win Streak: 2
Then, he missed a caster minion
Lose Streak: 1
😂
For real, mid to late is a cluster. Not that I don't screw it up a lot too, but just having a plan and sticking to it is huge mid game on. I feel like there should be a designated tactician each match with super pings. Everyone feels like a hero in laning phase, and can't give up that power to play as a team.
I recently discovered your videos and I have now been watching everyday lmao but I would like to see either AP Nautilus or AD thresh
I think he did a shotgun thresh build a while back but it's outdated.
Or well, something regarding thresh autos, I can't remember cause it was the first video I saw but I've only gotten into this game recently.
@@ganymede1127 I am also pretty new to the game but good to know i’ll have to scroll back and find that vid!
One of the funniest creators of lol
Only tip I'd give is that when you know where the enemy team is and you don't have any immediate use for your plants(such as fighting enemies), drop your seeds nearby.
Seeds are only limited by their cooldown and having more seeds already placed before the start of a fight is always bonus advantage. You should generally be at 1/2 charges at all times except right before a fight.
I love your Zyra videos
1:45 oop! 😂😂
Zwag, I gave a like for the missed cannon.
Me as well
18:45 that Barron swimming under them?
One of my fav again!! Thx for the content 🫠
If I remember correctly, her plant damage doesnt really scale with your AP, so its better to get DPS/Haste items on her if you are aiming for more damage. But your other spells still hits hard tho
I love plant lady
always happy and excited for the new zwag video best part of my day
Why is zwag not challenger yet? He's so fuckin good!
You must be new here . Zwag plays on low elo because it's better for content creating , he did play on other elo , he have a separate channel for that.. he have 3 channel total
Go to Zwagmo if you wanna see more higher elo vids. Both TC Zwag and Zwag Xerath tend to play on Lower Elo but tend to be more entertaining
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
Zyra is my favvvvvv I’ve been spamming her on the mobile league game after I asked for her to be added to the app, her moves are slightly different quite cool, but do agree with you my hands are dead after playing it for a while 😂
3 hour long video of mages in the midland pls :)
I didn’t farm as much as I should’ve in second game. I fully thought I had 1200 smite at infernal drake.
like for a missed cannon? are you kidding me? you want me to reward you for your blunder? absolutely not
51:51 get a grip pls
@@ysacatwas a joke, had only watched the first few minutes when written, get his meat out your mouth
has pantheon ever thought of, ya know, listening to the 7/0/9 person instead of following his 6/9 heart?
Second skin of the day: Street Demons Zyra.
Oy ! Here is a funny idea : same build on a support or jungle support (like Ivern/Morg ) with a twist: redemption and item cdr : nuclear blast redemption, Crit / burn / explode with shadowflame, Liandry, luden
Got my Like for that Missed Cannon 😅🥺
Do full on hit TF pls
Love your content and wanted to learn how to play Tf that’s also why I’m asking much love from Portugal ❤️
There's your like. Don't miss another cannon, dork 😎
Not done watching, but here is the like for the missed cannon. 😂
I don't care if it is normals, or low elo, or whatever. If you see a mage that uses plants as turrets, it should be more than obvious that said mage shouldn't be in melee range of anyone
Khazix mental boom😂
31:35 Thezwagffs
"stop diving into them" he says to a team of 4 divers.
Zwagenson why did you leave for fun squad? I hope it is not an issue between you and heiz I love you two together so much!
day 183 of asking for full crit warwick
Day 1 of agreeing with you @@kallusive8986
We need proof of day 1 asking full crit ww
+rep ive seen his comments
day 1 proof of critwick requested
Day 1 of saying no to the guy saying no
lol the fact that you couldnt do jack squat to yi xD
Sehr gute Linien. Könntest du noch die Zeiten einblenden?
59:15 this hurts my head
Damn, I'll like for that missed cannon
Awesome video mate! Quick question, are these games ranked or just casuals?
You can see after the game ends it says Ranked Solo/Duo in the top left corner
But they are often ranked on a smurph
@@_ash_fox_ Yeah thanks for pointing it out! Man zwag is out here stomping on these bronze players 🥸
@@AsianNooodlez poor fellas 😭
You can tell how annoying Yi's are to zwag when you hear him say fuck
Everytime I watch you play mid. Most of the time you never come to your jungler aid when you know your enemy is going towards their path, or when your jungler is in trouble.
It either too late and get flamed. Or too late and yet you still get kills xD and now you’re the carry.
You plays very well btw but please look at the minimap more often.
turnout minions are always your best and only teammate
3ms is insane. do you have a server on your basement?
bro really made me like for losing a cannon
yayyy another Zyra vid !!!!
I gave u a like 4 the Canon at min 3😂...
More zyraaa🎉
Yay Zyra is my other main!
Every time I play her in wildrift I always get distracted by her GYATT model
its so frustrating when you need to back but your team thinks they are strong without you and ints haha
Most of my games go like the first one, they just do their own thing and nobody groups as 5
Finally a Zyra video! And I only asked twice! (for the past 4 months)
Oh yeah, I can’t remember most Legends (don’t play just watch this channel) but I know and click on all Zyra videos. If I played I’d like to play her, she seems fun and noob friendly lol
They’re called ‘champions’ mate, even though the game is called ‘league of legends’, just FYI
That’s dumb lol. Next you’ll tell me that if I join the Air Force I’ll be called a Marine. I’m not dumbing myself down to fit the norm. It’s League of Legends, I’ll call them Legends :P@@khalmog836
I liked because of the missed cannon ☺️
This is like watching my Bronze teammates. Big fucking sadge
you should do Lillia in all for one your ult will put anyone with the dust on them even if someone else put the dust on them
Would be cool to see some Yasuo gameplay
Only liked because of Cannon ^^
more zyraaaaaaaa
more champions like these please!!!
I gib sub and like for that canon..
Mike Hannon!
Asking for the U L T I M A T E original Skarner Game
28:10 He got you good. Admit your mistakes when arguing. You just admitted defeat by typing "who?", get owned.
Like for the Cannon ❤
HIS CANNON
I always let the plants do the work
YESSS AP ZYRA
Play On Hit Taric 100% troll pick that I'd love to see you play
Mind = controlled
when are u gonna play jorki?
Rip cannon
Day 22 asking for a camille video, either top or supp.
Why the video are in 360p and can't change quality? Only me or what... i reload the page and try on mobile
Zyra and zilean mid so slept on
Mostly I play supp when I see jg master in enemy team I take Leona or any other tank with easy to land cc
like for the missed cannon, rip
I love how u literally rooted the brand before the khazix died too like he really flopped with every opportunity given to him
Kindred count
Count since the last video 74 days
Last record of 88, 222, 139, 63 days
Good
Night Baby
cannon diff
Day 351 of begging Zwag to play crit Rek'Sai
I know she’s a bruiser now but still pls Zwag. Also give a like to the MS Warwick dude
Need proof of day 1 asking for rek sai...
lol I don’t remember the exact video. Go back and look for it, I promise it’s there
If you come back and ask tomorrow I’ll look for it though
Day 64 of asking for tank xerath
Also possibly an AP shaco game?
I Like Zyra...♥