The Dodleston Messages: Cryptic Computer Warnings from The Past…and Future

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @decodingtheunknown2373
    @decodingtheunknown2373  Год назад +30

    Use my code "UNKNOWN" to get $5 off your delicious, high-protein Magic Spoon cereal by clicking this link: magicspoon.com/unknown Thanks to Magic Spoon for the sponsorship.

    • @oblongcassidy
      @oblongcassidy Год назад +8

      $9 per 7 ounce box lol

    • @ab2tract
      @ab2tract Год назад +2

      no...dont....magic spoon...they are three years too late...

    • @CreativaArtly
      @CreativaArtly Год назад

      Unironically love magic spoon. My faves are cinnamon roll and cocoa.

    • @dennymoe8010
      @dennymoe8010 Год назад +1

      ​@@oblongcassidy phv:

    • @magus104
      @magus104 Год назад

      @@CreativaArtly even if i were rich the price of those vs the unhealthy ones is just too great

  • @shaungarewal8987
    @shaungarewal8987 Год назад +280

    I love Danny’s alliterations. When Simon nails them he always scoffs and mocks them. When he messed them up he always says something like why do you do this to me, Danny?

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville Год назад +13

      Dang! Danny's dedicated and determined to provide delightfully daring yet dastardly alliterations. Dauntless, diligent, dazzling, take a deep dive into the demeanor of a dapper dear Danny's alliterations.

    • @ffaa.1650
      @ffaa.1650 Год назад +2

      ​@@Nefvilleshhhhhhh

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Год назад +2

      ​@@Nefville I almost did it first try

    • @cassandraunheeded
      @cassandraunheeded Год назад +1

      I think Danny also knows that Simon has no trouble in pronouncing a hard C or K.
      General question: if we know what fricatives and plosives are, what do you call that?

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 Год назад +26

    FYI, Back in the early 80's there was no task manager. If you did the three-fingered salute (Control+Alt+Delete) the computer would reboot. There was no dialog asking if you really mean it, it just rebooted.

  • @peakdelvalle197
    @peakdelvalle197 Год назад +76

    When I was a kid my parents bought us a karaoke machine with a built-in dual cassette deck so you could record your own singing with backing tracks. My sister and I used it to make a tape of us making monster sounds over a tape of a local radio station. Then we told our 5 year old younger sister the monsters were coming through the radio to get her. She was terrified, but in retrospect she would've believed anything and what we did was really mean. I'm sure glad our stupid prank didn't become a town-wide hoax or an urban legend I'd find RUclips videos about decades later 😂

  • @gigiquinn3185
    @gigiquinn3185 Год назад +428

    Danny, I missed you

    • @alaintobin6690
      @alaintobin6690 Год назад +22

      Danny is in the basement...

    • @thomasbaker6563
      @thomasbaker6563 Год назад +4

      Oh yeah

    • @leighpowell1062
      @leighpowell1062 Год назад +11

      Dannys escape from the basement is over

    • @DannyMcKenna15
      @DannyMcKenna15 Год назад +19

      I read the title, excitedly clicked, and immediately saw your comment.
      Cryptic computer messages…my name is Danny…thank you for making me genuinely believe that the end was finally here 🥲

    • @joggingscissors632
      @joggingscissors632 Год назад

      ​@@leighpowell1062I'm considering printing 'Keep Danny Shackled' t-shirts in response to the 'Free Danny' movement.
      It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make (on Danny's behalf) for the edification of the fans.

  • @terryenby2304
    @terryenby2304 Год назад +67

    6:42 we lived with close friends for a few years, it was super fun! We had big meals together most nights, and it was fun just hanging out with the tv together or chilling in a bedroom together, without having to arrange it all.
    The “family unit” of two adults and kids is pretty weird in terms of human history, and having friends, grandparents, and other people live with you was very common in most of human history (and still is in some cultures).
    We found it reduced our stress because we had a bit more (voluntary!) support with the kids, and everyone had people to vent to when worried/grumpy, and it obviously makes the bills cheaper too!
    But I couldn’t do it with random strangers, only family or friends who are close enough to be like family.

    • @ElBumbElBee
      @ElBumbElBee Год назад +3

    • @ThestuffthatSaralikes
      @ThestuffthatSaralikes Год назад +6

      My family was one of the “multi generational” households for awhile; 6 years. And it was a help. But then it also caused problems eventually. We all live separately now…

    • @Mr.InbetweenFX
      @Mr.InbetweenFX Год назад +2

      @Sarahelton4261That's really not so uncommon, my family was similar to what you've described but after time we've basically grown and lived through a few deaths and I feel we just sorta strayed over time. I definitely miss those days but see why things are this way. Wishing families Peace here✌️

    • @bdoon51
      @bdoon51 2 месяца назад

      When 19 I moved to a multiracial.male/ female collective I a large converted 19 th centuryansipn
      The founder supported the zBlack Panther.Party though we supported other organizations as well. Most of us had outside jobs but also internal responsibilities. All drugs or illegal was verboten..My first week living there I had to snitch on an attractive lady. This turned out to be a test
      ..my probation there was shortened. Jobs included kitchen, cleaning, administrative, vehicles and maintenance. Couples got one large room instead of small one. Meals served early and late due to jobs. Kids were raised by all in reality. A little over 2 years there my new girlfriend ( she did not live there) and I moved to Chicago. I never missed politics in DC but I did miss the way I had lived and many of the people
      Politics gave birth to the collective but also ended it. Progressive politics encompassed toosny variables
      Most did not want to touch gay liberation or support anti- abortion. There was unity per Vietnam and non-white liberation but when you had local Muslim groups murdering each other and the SDS spinning off Weathermen hostilities arose and discipline and responsibilities slackened. Police and possible FBI surveillance did not help. Rather than unifying the Police facilitated disintegration
      By that time I had been gone year😮
      and did not have to witness

  • @the_once-and-future_king.
    @the_once-and-future_king. Год назад +165

    Simon: Mocks Americans for their lack of geographical knowledge outside America.
    Also Simon: Doesn't know the location of anything north of Watford Gap sevices.
    Never change, Fact Boy, never change.

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 Год назад +4

      Anything north of Prague

    • @reasonsvoice8554
      @reasonsvoice8554 Год назад +7

      Anything 10 miles plus from where he lives he has no idea about 😂

    • @matildamarmaduke1096
      @matildamarmaduke1096 10 месяцев назад

      What with name changes in the last 100 years of many nations and owners/ rulers sometimes u get it wrong like Peking or siam look on a map happy hunting unless it's pre 50s
      Cities die people move rulers charge like we have 50 states millions of cities town villages and the worlds peoples from all nations of all religions faiths and pronouns we have city laws county law state laws federal law mans law God's law it's more than confusing and who cares it's all lies anyway history is a perspective religion is evil and skin colors change with in a nation within a society & within a family. One race, one planet one chance at life

    • @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt
      @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt Месяц назад

      His entire "personality" is just disrespect and arrogant condescension with absolutely 0 right or justification to such behavior

  • @PhantomNull13
    @PhantomNull13 Год назад +66

    Oh, good, Danny recovered from eating the bad radiator mushrooms.

    • @finchisneat
      @finchisneat Год назад +1

      Lol whats a radiator mushroom?? 🤨🤔

    • @PhantomNull13
      @PhantomNull13 Год назад +2

      @finchisneat Danny writes for another channel (Brain Blaze), where it is a running joke that Simon keeps him chained up in the basement. When Simon forgets to feed him, he has to eat the mushrooms that grow from the radiator.

    • @TheLithp
      @TheLithp 3 месяца назад

      ​"Forgets. Joke"​@@PhantomNull13

  • @anska7475
    @anska7475 Год назад +72

    This reminds me so much about something a school mate and I used to do, which was penpal books. We made up fictional characters, who would get in contact with each other through a trans-dimensional penpal agency and wrote each other letters about their lives. Each book had a different set of characters. It was a lot of fun. 😅

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 Год назад +5

      This sounds absolutely amazing!
      A great idea to remember for the time I will have kids!

    • @lisahoshowsky4251
      @lisahoshowsky4251 Год назад +4

      That sounds really awesome!

    • @valolafson6035
      @valolafson6035 10 месяцев назад +1

      Sudden flash. I used to do that too. I forgot all about them.

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 10 месяцев назад +1

      That sounds fun!

  • @joggingscissors632
    @joggingscissors632 Год назад +130

    Simon: curious and patient enough to look up antedeluvian.
    Also Simon: too impatient to scroll down to the second definition, which would fit the context perfectly. Learns nothing.
    Heh
    Just ribbing you. Love the humor and modesty you regularly bring to the very well written content.

    • @pjweisberg
      @pjweisberg Год назад +3

      "Just some time in the past" is basically the gist of it

    • @bultvidxxxix9973
      @bultvidxxxix9973 Год назад +3

      @@pjweisberg In this context it doesn't refer to any time period in the past though. It means extremely old-fashioned.

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser Год назад +2

      I first saw the word in a 9th grade literature book when I was 14 in '60. Even then it was footnoted at the bottom of the page, meaning as old as the hills. So if it was archaic then, imagine what it must be now. Must have been some 19th century pundit's (of the Van Snoot ilk) idea of being clever by saying something in Latin to obscure it's meaning to the "hoi polloi"; i.e. regular folks, when "before the Great Flood" would do just fine. Even then, I had a feeling I was beingb B.S.'ed

    • @joggingscissors632
      @joggingscissors632 Год назад

      @@bultvidxxxix9973 nailed it

    • @jabronisauce6833
      @jabronisauce6833 Год назад

      Nah he can be quite arrogant and look down his big lefty nose

  • @aliciabemont3012
    @aliciabemont3012 Год назад +39

    2 super long Simon episodes in 1 day! It feels like Christmas. 🎉

  • @hanisk2
    @hanisk2 Год назад +25

    I like how Simon doesn't discourage kids from viewing his content. For the most part anyway. He's well aware a kid could be out doing a lot worse things than watching an explicit but informative video.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 Год назад

      Why should kids be discouraged from learning about historical things that happened?
      The more you can learn as a kid, the better!
      In that early Phase the brain is capable of learning extremely fast!
      Teach your children as much as possible when they are young.
      Educate them on all topics possible.

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 Год назад +2

      Well tbf, I agree that most Cas Crim aren't kid-friendly and that's the only channel I've heard him say it about.

  • @MichaelEilers
    @MichaelEilers Год назад +135

    I felt this was really fun and creative, even if it was a mundane prank. That’s a lot of really speculative thinking at a time when home computers barely existed.

    • @audreymuzingo933
      @audreymuzingo933 Год назад +6

      Definitely way better than any creepy pasta I've read.

    • @BCSoHappy
      @BCSoHappy Год назад +4

      1984, my husband brought home the Mac and ImageWriter 1. Neither of our employers got much overtime after that.

  • @finnhermitage882
    @finnhermitage882 10 месяцев назад +5

    I haven't watched this video yet but just wanted to share that I'm glad this story has popped up on the interwebs. In a really weird coincidence, I met one of the chaps involved with this case, Peter Trinder, who had also been a teacher at my mum's school when she went there, and he told us all about this story. It was the first I ever heard of it. On holiday in 2012 back in the village where I went to school, and where my mum had also gone to school, we went and sat in the lounge of the residential library where we were staying (I know all of these details are extremely random!) and this old chap got talking to us. I knew I recognised his name from my mum mentioning it and so we struck up a very pleasant conversation, and that's when he told us about this. I was becoming fascinated by computers at the time and so that's probably how we got around to the subject.
    Whether or not it was a hoax, Mr Trinder was insistent that he had not been in on it and was genuinely baffled by how this could have come about if it wasn't a hoax.
    I'm looking forward to hearing Simon's theories on this odd situation and his sceptical mockery of it all 😆
    I very much enjoy your channels, Simon, and particularly enjoy Danny's scripts, nice one both!

  • @Grassdragon193
    @Grassdragon193 Год назад +19

    What a fun journey this was, once the UFOlogist got involved I knew things were going to get very stupid. (Also audio levels are so much better now, I can understand Simon super clearly over the background music.)

  • @bigstevebigsteve1294
    @bigstevebigsteve1294 Год назад +6

    Simon you big brain! It’s the Society for PSYCHICAL (sai-ki-kl) Research, not to be confused with physical research. Expanded pronunciation guide for more English words Danny. Didn’t you Brits invent the language? Love your work Simon, don’t ever quit.

  • @Draugo
    @Draugo Год назад +8

    Considering how long Simon has been on the internet the amount of things he has never heard of is astounding.

  • @anamkarajoy
    @anamkarajoy Год назад +11

    Simon, farmers do still get degrees-in their field. Most places call it Agricultural Sciences or something similar.

    • @GreenTui91
      @GreenTui91 9 месяцев назад +7

      some are even outstanding...
      in their field.
      I'll see myself out

  • @seabreeze9296
    @seabreeze9296 Год назад +11

    amazing that nobody have yet pointed out that CERTAIN computers as early as 1985 could send files between each other by phone line and modem, and it was certainly possible that someone was playing a trick on him from another computer... it just wasn't called "internet" then

    • @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt
      @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt Месяц назад +1

      It's amazing that you're dumb enough you missed the part where these models of computer were physically incapable of that, it was entirely closed system, 0 ability to send or recieve anything, basically a fancy calculator

    • @jedipadawan7023
      @jedipadawan7023 Месяц назад

      @@AllisonRutherford-vs4dt No, technically seabreeze9296 is correct. You could have a BBC Model B connected up via a telephone to an acoustic coupler and have access to BBS sites and the like. Teletext was possible on the BBC Micro and the graphics modes included a teletext system. The 'internet' was JUST possible back them. The movie "War Games" from 1984 shows this... with a 1976 IMSAI!
      However, the modem was huge, the phone had to be physically plugged in - it would be obvious - and you were charged crazy money in phone bills. The 'internet' back then would be OBVIOUS. In this case... there was no modem.

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 Месяц назад

      @@AllisonRutherford-vs4dt What makes you think these model of computers were totallly incapable of connecting to a network?

    • @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt
      @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt Месяц назад +1

      @@jetfrog4574 because they factually were

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 Месяц назад

      @@AllisonRutherford-vs4dt How do you know that? ALso BBC Micro's were known for Econet, a type of LAN, so how are to to know there was "totally incapable" of network ability.

  • @LewisWilliams-xs7ck
    @LewisWilliams-xs7ck Год назад +12

    I’m local to Hawarden (pronounced Hard-en) or to give it its Welsh name Penarlâg and also work about 4 miles away from Dodleston but have never heard this story. My auntie would’ve worked as a teacher at Hawarden high school at the same time as this Ken Webster so I’ll be sure to ask her about the mystery man when I next see her. I’ll report back with what I find out if she’s able to shed any light on the subject.

    • @Lusa_Iceheart
      @Lusa_Iceheart Год назад +2

      Please do update us on if you find out if a Ken Webster actually taught at that high school. Maybe someone in the town has an old yearbook still? It'd be cool to figure out if this Ken guy is made up too and it was all the Ufo nut. Maybe see if he still lives in the area too.

    • @caseyd9471
      @caseyd9471 Год назад +2

      commenting in case there's an update

    • @gooma7942
      @gooma7942 4 месяца назад

      No updates I guess

    • @isaacwainwright5895
      @isaacwainwright5895 26 дней назад +1

      The government got him

    • @LewisWilliams-xs7ck
      @LewisWilliams-xs7ck 26 дней назад

      @@isaacwainwright5895 hahaha no the government haven’t got me. But ngl I just completely forgot to ask my Auntie and your reply has just reminded me about all this 🤣 she’s on holiday currently so I’ll be sure to ask her in about about this in about a week or so when she’s back!

  • @Ramsesdgr8
    @Ramsesdgr8 Год назад +7

    Of course. It makes perfect sense that a 16th century ghost who thinks electric lights are of the devil, yet knows how to type a message on a computer. What a total crock.

  • @golferorb
    @golferorb Год назад +27

    Someone should make a movie based on this. I think it could be good, if done right.

  • @SESauvie
    @SESauvie 11 месяцев назад +3

    I love Simon's complete no sell of all of this. The first time I heard this story was from a believer of many things and the Simon version is just such a refreshing bombardment of using your brain.

    • @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt
      @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt Месяц назад

      His retelling is entirely inaccurate, its just as bs and untrustworthy to get the story from someone who's across the board so arrogant as to implicitly dosmiss anything "supernatural" as it is to get your info from someone like Joe Rogan who believes everything, they are both just as incapable of any level of critical thought

  • @DatBoiUKno
    @DatBoiUKno Год назад +3

    41:48 this is so off the rails by this point I don’t even know if I can keep listening my brain is melting out my ears here.

  • @MikeJones-yo8en
    @MikeJones-yo8en Год назад +29

    I’ve got a friend who swears that she’s time travelled, albeit against her will and at random. It’s incredibly annoying because she 100% believes that she has and tries to tell me about it sometimes. I try to ignore it the best I can and tell her it’s all in her head in the nicest way possible, people don’t like it when you insist that it’s just their mental illness

    • @aste4949
      @aste4949 Год назад +11

      Hooo boy, that'sa challenge alright. What are some of the things she claims?
      We used to have a friend who briefly began leading a club of sorts and claiming she and her boyfriend were once a medieval king and queen _(how glamorous and convenient!),_ and most of the group members were once their loyal subjects _(__#NotACult__.)_ And of course some of their medieval enemies were among our extended friend group now _(so ostracized the people she doesn't like!)_
      It took years to recognize that she wasn't just grappling with anxiety, wasn't just being manipulative or spinning a story for escapism (she loved being a LARP storyteller), she actually _genuinely 100% believed that crap sometimes._ Really made us question how many of her claims about her incompetent, shitty roommate were true, but it was too late to do anything to help. We got cut out of their lives.
      My best friend lost their longest-running, nearing two-decades-long friendship to the weirdness too. It was as weird as it was devastating.

    • @AlicesonHarvey-um6lk
      @AlicesonHarvey-um6lk Год назад +1

      Could it have been a time slip?

    • @BreezyE-d3n
      @BreezyE-d3n 2 месяца назад

      ​@aste4949 weird. Even if she was, she wasn't in her present life, she'd have none of the money or power so it's a moot point.

  • @zepoxandy5602
    @zepoxandy5602 Год назад +3

    Hello peeps, i just wanted to say that i had a similar paint problem when i moved to an old house where the bedroom was painted with old 50+ years old oil paint patterns on the walls and the paint had some zinc and other particles in it to make it more vibrant, i painted over the pattern like 7 times and it still showed trough, eventually i had to scrape off the walls till i removed the old paint and then some basically almost to the bricks to get rid of the damn paint patterns showing trough.

  • @rashkavar
    @rashkavar Год назад +3

    I'm only 19 minutes in so far, but I'm very solidly leaning towards someone in town has a key to the place who doesn't like the idea of outsiders.
    In quieter, more trusting towns, giving a neighbour or friend the key to your house so they can check in on things if they don't see you for ages, put the mail/newspapers inside, water plants, feed pets, etc while you're on holidays, etc. Or just have a key so when you lose yours and get home, you can get a spare key from someone who's been safeguarding it. Often these go for years without being used. My parents recently found one such key in the bottom of a box of electronics, and have no idea as to its origin and so disposed of it.
    My theory is the person who sold the place moved on without remembering that key, and the newcomers didn't change the locks (probably should when you move in to a new place, but not everyone does). The neighbour with the key has, for whatever reason, decided to mess with them.
    Oh, and the paint footprints always showing up in the same place? I would probably do that with some kind of solvent or grease - I'm sure there are some chemicals that are odorless that paint does not stick to. That way, the footprints reappear in the same place - they haven't been reapplied, they just shed the paint off.

  • @yayhandles
    @yayhandles Год назад +75

    I have to wonder how many brain cells poor Danny lost while researching this garbage. Thanks for taking one for the team, mate! 👍

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs Год назад +6

      Let's be honest, this entire episode was so that Danny could run creatively wild with 80s computer references.

    • @otacon5648
      @otacon5648 Год назад

      The PUREST garbage. Asinine, every word is asinine!

    • @EMurph42
      @EMurph42 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@luckyspurshe makes the best of things.

  • @krisfinley6706
    @krisfinley6706 Год назад +75

    Man, I'd hate to see Simon team up with Shane on a ghost hunt, poor Ryan would be annihilated by their incessant mockery, dripping sarcasm, and general contempt for the irrational ridiculous belief in ghosts and all things supernatural 😭👻🧟‍♂️🧛

    • @scottieman2
      @scottieman2 Год назад +8

      I'd love to see it. History making event. I just want to see Ryan try to convince them.

    • @Midorikonokami
      @Midorikonokami Год назад +4

      The first thing he'd do is whip out a carbon monoxide detector, to Shane's amusement and Ryan's horror.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 Год назад

      Ghost hunting?
      Oh boy..

    • @sydneyslaughter7163
      @sydneyslaughter7163 9 месяцев назад +1

      I feel like Shane and Simon would just be doing finger guns at each other the whole time

    • @CallumMahondraco1984
      @CallumMahondraco1984 9 месяцев назад

      I'd love to see this

  • @alunchurcher7060
    @alunchurcher7060 Год назад +18

    The BBC computer was very 80's and one has to remember the first search engine didn't come out until around 1990. The BBC computer was ok for emails and writing letters, it also had a database and as you mentioned a spread sheet function. It was very primitive in function and design. But it was a thing of it's time, that being a time where computer's were the new thing on the must have lost for Christmas gift for children.

    • @tommyrotton9468
      @tommyrotton9468 Год назад

      It might be conceivable to secretly add internal connectivity to an Acorn. The case is big enough.

    • @alunchurcher7060
      @alunchurcher7060 Год назад +2

      @@tommyrotton9468 the cases back in the 80's were large enough, some companies even had them bolted to desks to stop thieves

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 Месяц назад

      @@tommyrotton9468 or you could just use an external modem.

  • @russellfitzpatrick503
    @russellfitzpatrick503 Год назад +3

    Thanks for your time ..., and patience, in putting this together. Great story, full of laughter and asides as usual

  • @golferorb
    @golferorb Год назад +5

    56:21 when I was in high school my friend and I would change the backgrounds to pictures of Slip Knot.

  • @kellyngrey4950
    @kellyngrey4950 Год назад +9

    As someone with a history PhD that has had to read documents from the sixteenth century, it is excruciatingly obvious that the words used by the "ghost" is a modern person trying to imitate what they think someone from the sixteenth century would have used. Never mind the fact that English spelling was not formalized in anyway nor was grammar styling - even for a person with an education or "degree from Jesus College." Seriously, even some documents in the nineteenth century are painful to read, but anything from before 1700 is just torture.

    • @jrmckim
      @jrmckim 8 месяцев назад

      When I was getting my English degree, I wanted to do a paper on 16th-17th century English. After about a week, I changed my mind. I wanted something challenging but that was just torture after a week.

    • @eatonkuntz
      @eatonkuntz Месяц назад

      Have you read the unedited messages? I can read 1500's English photographic reprints easier than gen z twitter slang, certainly. The messages seemed reasonably accurate but I'm no expert.

  • @fyrequeene
    @fyrequeene Год назад +20

    I tend to be a bit gullible when it comes to "out of this world" possibilities, but even I was right there with Simon, the whole way, thinking "Totally a hoax." A fun listen, though, thanks Danny and Simon!
    btw, another great time travel book for anyone interested is Connie Willis' "Doomsday Book." Highly recommended!

  • @leaniasl6010
    @leaniasl6010 9 месяцев назад +3

    @57:34 Simon complaining about Clwid not having any vowels. Poor "i", so ignored. XD

  • @davidslate2005
    @davidslate2005 Год назад +5

    This is great as an ending to this story. I've watched this story a couple months ago on The Why Files and now this one. Great job Danny.

  • @feanacar
    @feanacar Год назад +6

    Yay, it’s Danny!!!
    I have missed you, Danny, and hopefully Simon has a nice long intro to read

  • @jamesodwyer4181
    @jamesodwyer4181 Год назад +2

    This was just the absurd giggle I needed. Cheers Danny and Simon!

  • @erikdohme1097
    @erikdohme1097 Год назад +3

    Dannys back! Here I was worried Simon forgot to throw his table scraps into the basement for him.

  • @anthonyperno1348
    @anthonyperno1348 Год назад +3

    Back in 1990, I took three of my students to Best Buy to help me buy my first computer.
    I and two of the students were talking to the salesman when I noticed the third kid was going from computer to computer.
    We left shortly after, and I could hear most of the computers whirling as we walked by them.
    It was early on for home computers and Best Buy, and they didn't have the computers PW protected.
    Most (two rows) of the computers were in the process of a hard drive formating.

  • @SLorraineE
    @SLorraineE Год назад +2

    An absolutely delightful story! Well done, Danny

  • @apexqc04
    @apexqc04 Год назад +19

    As somebody who has literally written the book on in-credible stories, I see the fingerprints of something similar to my own lame efforts in this and I agree with you guys, it sounds very much like a construct of this Gary Rowe character. I'd never stopped once during previous videos on this subject to consider the possibility that Ken and Debby hadn't been verified as real people. Vertical Plane is in my Amazon wish list but never plucked up the enthusiasm to actually buy it.

    • @A_Haunted_Pancake
      @A_Haunted_Pancake Год назад +3

      The People from the future DO seem rather impressed by Gary.
      I'm surprised there was nothing about, how all the Women
      in 2109 want him and the all the men want to be like him 😄

  • @theskintexpat-themightygreegor
    @theskintexpat-themightygreegor Год назад +1

    11.22.63 is one of my favorite time travel books, and I love time travel books. I can also strongly recommend Jack Finney's Time and Again. I'm with Stephen King; this is one of the greatest of the genre.

  • @krisbradbury5087
    @krisbradbury5087 11 месяцев назад +2

    Someone I knew had a lodger. The lodger started taking out loans and credit cards in the home owners name and because he lived in the correct address the home owner only found out when a bank contacted him about his rejected 25k loan.
    By the time the lid was opened the lodger had taken out 60k in loans and credit cards and refused to leave the property.
    Don’t know how it all ended, lost contact with the home owner as it was being investigated.
    But knowing the uk legal system nothing I imagine

  • @steveh-m665
    @steveh-m665 Год назад +4

    I had a girlfriend at the University of Wisconsin named Mary, and she had one of those "light boxes"! When we made it light up, we were transported back to the 1500's and into the future instantaneously! 😂

  • @MusicalRaichu
    @MusicalRaichu Год назад +15

    I started writing a time travel story, never finished, but making plausible guesses about evolution of technology and language was something I tried. For example, instead of "gigs" they'd say "pets" (petabytes), instead of unlocking a door, they'd "palm in".

  • @JoeBuk724
    @JoeBuk724 Год назад +8

    8:00 Arranged in a pyramid!?
    Well clearly it must be aliens, no human could possibly do that!

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 Год назад +1

      Ghost in Poltergeist (1982) "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @sburns2421
    @sburns2421 Год назад +1

    I try to listen these as they are released and but I am a few behind.
    But I have waited for the Dodleston Messages since finding this channel. It gets to jump in line for first listen.

  • @MiraBoo
    @MiraBoo Год назад +2

    57:29 - 57:36 Hi, English Literature major here. In the USA, vowels are taught to us as being “Aa, Ee, Ii, Oo, Uu, and sometimes Yy.” In most instances Yy is used as a vowel. IDK if it’s the same overseas, however.

    • @Caelia7
      @Caelia7 9 месяцев назад +1

      We don't. But he's just being nasty to Wales as the English usually are. 😢

  • @valolafson6035
    @valolafson6035 Год назад +4

    As someone who works in a school, it's funny the first couple times someone changes the computer, but it gets old really fast.

  • @andybagwell4588
    @andybagwell4588 Год назад +1

    “The Jaunt” that’s definitely my favorite Stephen King time travel story, it’s a short, but hits hard👌

  • @pupawupagus
    @pupawupagus Год назад

    i love this story!! there’s only one other half decent vid on it so thx man

  • @kevinmcqueenie7420
    @kevinmcqueenie7420 Год назад +5

    A webster was an old occupational term for a female weaver (actually probably something closer to webbester or webbestre) in Middle English, in case anyone is interested (also surnames like Baxter "female baker" and Brewster "female brewer" were derived in this way too). Maybe old Gary was spinning an old wives' tale...

  • @LaurieLeeAnnie
    @LaurieLeeAnnie Год назад +3

    I will have to say that in 1980…. We didn’t use floppy drives. We saved things on a cassette tape, that sounded like recording a fax machine for a long time. Hard for people to wrap their minds around sometimes! 🤯

  • @LaylaSpellwind
    @LaylaSpellwind 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thomas was indeed a ghost. He did want to write a book, but when he tried to his hand went right through the pen, he felt rather silly after that. No book ever written.

  • @tonyzanotto1691
    @tonyzanotto1691 Год назад

    Watched you many titles , all good . Will watch this again , helps to understand what ya gotta deal with .

  • @sherylcascadden4988
    @sherylcascadden4988 Год назад +6

    1984 was the year Apple introduced the "Macintosh", the first graphical user interface computer.
    Home computers in general had been around for almost 10 years, and while not in every home, were reasonably common.

    • @craigh5236
      @craigh5236 Год назад +3

      Then in 1985 the Amiga came out and blew out the Mac in every way

    • @sherylcascadden4988
      @sherylcascadden4988 Год назад

      @@craigh5236 A friend of a friend had an Amiga... It was really great!

  • @cbremer83
    @cbremer83 Год назад +3

    When I was in high school we made the startup sound on Windows 95/98 a combination of barnyard noise and grunting dudes from porn movies. One of the guys in my group of friends was in AV club, giving us access to some really fun toys.
    Once we set loaded the wave file we would crank the sound, turn the machine off, then sit and wait across the library from where the computers sat.

  • @CommonInternetLurker
    @CommonInternetLurker 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sounds to me like a very early ARG. Kinda like how you get those twitter/youtube accounts that "document" creepy goings on like TheSunVanished or Petscop. This was just pre-internet.

  • @josiehunter7713
    @josiehunter7713 Год назад +1

    13:25 I’m gen z and yes I remember having to click cntrl alt del all of the time… and my friends & I doing it to each other 😂

  • @CJC.Unlimited
    @CJC.Unlimited Год назад

    Simon ending a rant , reading one line, saying “why” to the line then going on another rant is gold 12:48

  • @sophierayvon13
    @sophierayvon13 Год назад +1

    Awesome vid as always!
    Pro tip: if you ever need to say it again, Hawarden is pronounced "Harden" xD
    I work at Hawarden airport ;)

  • @aceundead4750
    @aceundead4750 Год назад +3

    The return of the Danny script, with a vengeance.

  • @matthewconnell6596
    @matthewconnell6596 Год назад +2

    Seems very similar to a 1980's episode of the Twlight Zone: "a message from charity" which aired in 1985. Very similar premise, so I guess it's possible that the ufo guy saw that and just added a computer to the mix.

  • @djgeorgetsagkadopoulos
    @djgeorgetsagkadopoulos Год назад +6

    This reminds me of a novel I read when I was a teenager. At the end of that novel (which also had ghosts communicating from another place and time) it turned out that the main character was schizophrenic, and that it was actually him (his other self) that would do all the things the ghost did.
    For a moment, as this story progressed I thought we were going for such a resolution around Debby.. Allegedly!

  • @andymcneil7085
    @andymcneil7085 Год назад

    Interesting and well presented as always.

  • @octaviousray9816
    @octaviousray9816 10 месяцев назад +1

    you and Trey the Explainer absolutely piss me off, but i cant get enough of the videos . lmaooooo more life

  • @baroquejen
    @baroquejen Год назад +1

    I'm usually quite picky about language, but I wouldn't have a problem using the word 'choices' in that context. If you choose item 1, that is your choice. If you choose item 2, that is your choice, so they are both potential choices.

  • @anna9072
    @anna9072 Год назад +4

    7:30 I was doing some painting one time, and one of the walls had a bunch of phone numbers scrawled on the wall next to the phone. Some of the ink bled right through the paint, no matter how many coats you put on (actually, it was probably only three, since I gave up and scraped down till I removed the original ink, but it was showing no signs of fading out any time soon). So I’d assume that something similar was going on here.

    • @nanoglitch6693
      @nanoglitch6693 Год назад +3

      This is what happens when you cheap out on your paint and decide you don't "need" primer. 😂

    • @anna9072
      @anna9072 Год назад +3

      @@nanoglitch6693 wasn’t me that decided that, I was just doing a job for a friend, he said here’s the wall, here’s the paint, and I painted.

  • @michellecoleman5577
    @michellecoleman5577 Год назад

    2:37 Whoooo! Danny outdoing himself with an amazing alliteration.

  • @marjon1703
    @marjon1703 Год назад +2

    57:46 The BBC micro B has EcoNet a network interface that could be used for chat and disc file sharing. However this would need a hard wired cable plugged in to the back. At a computer show in the 80's we spoofed an advanced computer chat program using Econet and a hidden BBC micro.

    • @Lusa_Iceheart
      @Lusa_Iceheart Год назад

      Yeah that's one of the leading theories I've seen in other places as to how the messages got there. There was supposedly a chip that could transmit a very short range wireless signal too, so you could in theory send messages to the one BBC micro wirelessly. If you didn't know what you where looking for inside the computer, you could miss the chip and it'd let someone else in that tiny little town send messages to it. Someone else, like perhaps a UFO nutcase living in the area.

  • @Demented13
    @Demented13 Год назад +1

    I like the tangents, makes it more entertaining to me

  • @steveh-m665
    @steveh-m665 Год назад +2

    May be Romulans flying through our solar system in their Warbird Starship using their cloaking device! 😂 Where's. Mr. Spock 😮when we need him!

  • @thelloyd87
    @thelloyd87 Год назад +2

    I bring up the “half your age plus 7” thing and people look at me like I’m stupid or that I just made it up. I thought it was a universal rule everyone knew.

  • @martinfenton1275
    @martinfenton1275 Год назад +1

    My school also had a BBC Micro which could never be found on the premises because it was “away for testing.”

  • @stuartsmith4369
    @stuartsmith4369 Год назад +1

    In the 80s, there was no task manager, CTRL-ALT-DEL was just a soft reset.

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian Год назад +3

    In Welsh, W and Y are always vowels, so there are actually 2 vowels in Clwyd.

  • @tiffanygrimm3569
    @tiffanygrimm3569 Год назад +2

    I've been worried about Danny so it's good to hear from him 😂❤

  • @rachaelchappell317
    @rachaelchappell317 Год назад

    I remember the BBC computer, my Dad had one. Love the shout out for Chuckie Egg too.
    I remember reading about this in the Fortean Times.
    I thought that if it wasn't one of the people in the house, there was probably a spare key with someone in the village.

  • @TerenceClark
    @TerenceClark Год назад +3

    I love how three sentences in Simon is already like "nah, this isn't real"

    • @leighpowell1062
      @leighpowell1062 Год назад

      Possibly because it was a hoax

    • @TerenceClark
      @TerenceClark Год назад

      @@leighpowell1062 I know. The funny bit is it's supposed to be a channel about mysterious phenomena but Simon shoots it down out of the gates.

    • @nicholaslewis8594
      @nicholaslewis8594 Год назад

      Because this is just so blatantly fake.

    • @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt
      @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt Месяц назад

      Shows just how invalid his opinion is

  • @helennichols6531
    @helennichols6531 Год назад +1

    I watched this story on another channel and Debbie joined in with the comments.

  • @thatcasualdragon2975
    @thatcasualdragon2975 Год назад +3

    Simon: C-L-W-Y-D. No vowels in there at all!
    Me: Yes there are. There are 2, w and y. They just aren't often vowels in English (although actually w is I think only used a vowel in English for the couple of words we've taken from Welsh, so that one maybe counts less).

  • @amb163
    @amb163 Год назад +15

    Got our first family computer in 1983 (Commodore), where we saved things on music cassette tapes. Went away to uni in 1998 and got my own brand new computer with 3.2 gigs of storage. No one else in residence had more than 2.5 gigs. The idea that I'd have a terabyte external drive less than 10 years later was crazy. Now I don't bother with more than a couple of physical TBs because... well, cloud storage.
    I think Debbie was writing the messages. She may or may not have been aware that she was doing so, though.

    • @noth606
      @noth606 Год назад

      So you had a rather boring history with computers eh, apart from having the very first external terabyte drive ever sold. The one thing your story makes me wonder about, is what on earth do you do with all your current TB's - I for one wouldn't find a use for that much storage unless I obsessively collected 4k films or some such. I just have a couple of 512gb SSD's, one is admittedly quite full but the other has barely anything on it since I'm too lazy to spend hours moving junk to it. Cloud storage I find utterly useless since I don't have any data worth spending weeks to upload to a service that then charges monthly and deletes it all if I miss a payment. I'd just as soon delete the data I care so little about myself, and use the money for some cookies or something.

    • @amb163
      @amb163 Год назад +2

      @@noth606 You seem nice.

    • @noth606
      @noth606 Год назад

      @@amb163 See, the first Terabyte consumer drive came out 2007, which by your timeline is the only possible one as you said less than 10yrs later from 1998. That is what sparked my comment, as it's very unusual to come across the very first adopter of something as relatively expensive as that specific Hitachi drive was when released. My cloud comment is purely from my own experience, I do use it but only for zero importance stuff because of how they work, which to me makes them not really an option as they readily nuke whatever you have there if for one reason or another you miss a bill. Which has happened to me.
      My boring history comment is because it seems odd to go from a VIC-20 to what I'd assume is a P-II or equivalent AMD without noteworthy steps in between considering how eventful the early 90s were, starting with 386 mostly, and having Pentium everywhere by 95ish, but hey, maybe that's just me, or you left out a bunch of stuff, just seemed odd.

    • @PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
      @PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Год назад

      @@noth606 you ok?

    • @noth606
      @noth606 Год назад

      @@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Me, myself and I are all ok, still debating the best storage option in terms of price performance for 2007, but quite simply that one drive amb163 claims to have had just isn't a smart choice. Had he waited just a little longer he would have had more options at better prices, or he could have opted for multiple smaller drives for the same price or less. The Samsung Spinpoint HD103UJ came out only a year and change later and was an eminently better drive than the Hitachi amb163 must have had due to his timeline.
      At any rate, me and my autism spectrum still hold doubt over the claimed timeline, simply due to the likelihood of it being very low.

  • @OzyMandias13
    @OzyMandias13 Год назад

    Fell asleep so this gem and woke up an hour and a half into the Albert Fish episode of The Casual Criminalist 😳. Never falling asleep with AutoPlay Next on or falling asleep again...

  • @rich.jerkov
    @rich.jerkov Год назад +2

    So this happened in 1984? The furniture moving? Cans neatly stacked in pyramids? That was from the 1982 movie Poltergeist.

  • @dwayne_dibley
    @dwayne_dibley 8 месяцев назад

    There was something called Prestel available for the BBC Micro and it did use a modem. Think old fashioned teletext block graphics and text. My school had it but we were rarely allowed to use it, only for teachers.

  • @Dept_Of_Ducks
    @Dept_Of_Ducks 11 месяцев назад +2

    I keep waiting for the reveal of Carbon Monoxide, or some dude having been living in the attic since before they moved in.

  • @CartoonHero1986
    @CartoonHero1986 Год назад +3

    Second comment just cause: the part about how language doesn't change the way they tried to make their "future english" look. A great example of a show predicting how the English Language might change and adopt new phrases was Firefly. For example the term they used instead of "cool" was "shiney" that is a literal translation of the Taiwanese slang word for "cool" in modern day Taiwan which is a trend that made its way from Hong Kong to Taiwan (not sure if it is still used in Honk Kong and Chinese dialects).

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky8288 Год назад +2

    Yes... the past was the worst, but by resisting change, we're doing our best to make the future even worse.

  • @ItsNotInTheCards
    @ItsNotInTheCards Год назад +2

    I feel I need a CW series made about this story. Heavy on the melodrama please.

  • @imniallg
    @imniallg Год назад +3

    Plot twist, this is actually the birth of ChatGPT

  • @Trivial_Whim
    @Trivial_Whim Год назад +1

    Could also be some sort of rot that just happens to have that shape. It would then breach the paint each night because it needs air exposure for its spores to be released.

  • @michellecoleman5577
    @michellecoleman5577 Год назад +1

    So I can't be the only one who heard the first message was signed by L. W. and was like "Wow, Kin, way to be uncreative when coming up with initials that were totally not related to yours."

  • @theWinterWalker
    @theWinterWalker Год назад +7

    Magic spoon $20 for a box of cereal, thank you CAPITALISM 👌

    • @pettykittyfam
      @pettykittyfam 7 месяцев назад +1

      No one is forcing you to buy it lol 😆 it's a choice and capitalism is based on what the general population aka the consumer feels is worth what.
      An example is in America Hollywood stars and football players make 100X's more than teachers and police.... Arguably more important jobs in society yet clearly not as important to the general population.
      It's just how it is.
      It's not a perfect system but it's certainly better than China or North Korea lol
      Here you can wake up at 11am and go to Starbucks then the gym... Run by McDonald's and then home to live stream for a few hours ... Then online shopping and out to the bar with friends 😂 life in America.
      My life lol NO
      Mine is way more dull and less expensive but it's not a bad life

  • @leeb6476
    @leeb6476 Год назад +3

    I remember hearing about this story, growing up in the 80s, there was supposedly going to be a TV drama about it, I've no idea if Gary Rowe flogged that idea, or the other protagonists were real or not as it was so long ago. I do remember one of them doing an article for The Fortean Times about this story and investigation, that was in the early 90s.

    • @rachaelchappell317
      @rachaelchappell317 Год назад +2

      I remember the article in the Fortean Times too.

    • @Nyctophora
      @Nyctophora Год назад

      Ken mentions that they didn't go with it because the TV script wanted it to be much more like a time travel romance, which wasn't what happened. If one believes.

  • @LillibitOfHere
    @LillibitOfHere Год назад +1

    My great grandfather was apparently from Chester England. I stopped doing the genealogy research when I got to him because he was a coal miner named John Price … There were like John Prices 3 per block.

  • @ethanwilson1998
    @ethanwilson1998 Год назад

    I've never heard of this! Gonna be an interesting episode

  • @sydneyslaughter7163
    @sydneyslaughter7163 9 месяцев назад +1

    This sounds like a ton of fun as a text-based game!

  • @feraldelight
    @feraldelight Год назад +1

    That was fun!

  • @megaflux7144
    @megaflux7144 Год назад +1

    i still remember basic magazine weekends where the only sleep i got revolved around dreaming of having a tape drive..