I have torn off literally thousands of roofs of every kind and replaced them with almost every kind of roof. Never once did i come upon a situation where a house was leaking due to nail placement . You need to experience that yourself
OK...Ever seen a nail pop? Same thing. Put 3 foot of snow on the roof with the warm from the home turning it into slush and the nail directly below it. Most times leaks happen 3 to 5 years after the install.
Owen corning says nails to be places 2 inches from ends of shingles. 4 to 6? That's too fat from the edge. If each full shingle requires requires at least 4 nails according to Owen corning on their shingles then you'll have to stack all those nails on one end. And hope you don't have a steep pitch requiring 6 nails min. 2 inches from the edge is what most manufactures recommend and that's how you get their warrantee to back them.
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
Finally somebody that talks about this! I literally pull my hair out watching dozens of RUclips videos with people bragging about their speed and they are all nailing in the keyways or (butt ends). I'm a roofer in Seattle Washington and I promise you anything like that is not going to fly over here with the amount of rain we get lol. Thank you for showing these idiots on RUclips the mindset of a professional 👍👍
Just making a mess of that roof. Bending all the shingles. I’ve been roofing for 40 years never seen a nail leak. Does this roof have a proper underlayment. It should have a felt underlayment. If there having problems with snow ridgevents and those low vents they replaced the ridge vents with are not the answer. They should of installed Duraflo Turbo vents which are higher and stick out of the snow.
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
@@KNowakSr maybe on a low pitch like 2/12 but if that’s the case then they should use flat roofing material like torch on. I’ve never seen a nail cause a leak.
Ive been roofing for 33 years. All types of roofs from hot tar to shingles. Nails rarely leak on a steeper pitched roof and when they do they are easy to spot. They get rusty first, the shank of the nail gets rusty and grows in diameter, then the nail will raise up a bit a push the shingle up some.
I'm confused dude!!!!!!!!!! I'm currently putting on some new OC shingles and the manufacturers spec's say to nail approx 1" from the end. Do you know better than the manufacturer?
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
You could nail it like 101111 where the butt joint is at the 0. The first and last nails should be about an inch from the edge of the shingle you are nailing into. Of course this is just a tip. Follow the manufacturer’s instructions on the bag.
Instead of redoing a new roof I would have told them to get the Insulation looked at at you should not have that much ice on a roof and and as per installation instructions your nails are to be evenly spaced on the shingle witch puts a nail about 1-3 inches from every joint
I’m a little confused I’ve been licensed contractor with a 2 million dollar insurance policy and when I install every new Roof I follow manufactures instructions on the proper nailing patter and placement of nails I use owning co. Shingle architecture timberline all types u name it . I just finished 2 roofs these 2 past week instruction s say one inch from end . . Each bundle 30 square all say the same . Or if done wrong void warranty. Is this a insurance job ? Kidding but really I’m confused your saying your saying the nail should be 4 six inches from the end not 1 inch what gonna hold the end of shingle . On the butt joint . I don’t know to believe what your saying or void all my customers warranty on the instructions on each bundle of shingle. They clear state 1 inch from each end . But anyway thanks for sharing your vid
They can be an inch from the end, but the next course of shingles should cover that nail by 4 inches. I think there’s a lot of confusion in the comment section.
MoneyManHolmes Your right. It’s the incorrect nailing pattern of the shingle. You can nail the shingle 1 inch from both but ends but the nailing pattern in between these 2 butt nails needs to nailed at a certain measurement or placement so the offset pattern you use or what the manufacturer suggest keeps the butt joints away from the nails.
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
This guy just trying to sell a job to the home owners and probably reap them off by using big words and maybe replacing one sheet of plywood. Lots of these guys just looking for a quick buck that's it.
you guys just trying to get some work!!! you guys are good for judging but you'll make the same mistakes or will do worst job. this is not a really bad job compare to others i've seen!
im a carpenter lets think about this does the nail make a hole in the plywood. ? yes no matter what you put under it ice an water shield don't matter over time if water gets to nail it will leak. are nails to close to but joint he'll yes. when ice builds up will water go up hill yes. is this guy right mostly yes. we all get a nail close like that I just make sure we have good silicone an put some on top of it at least. we are just humans. but don't worrie Amazon I'm sure building a robot roofer
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been roofing 30 years and this guy is correct!
I have torn off literally thousands of roofs of every kind and replaced them with almost every kind of roof. Never once did i come upon a situation where a house was leaking due to nail placement . You need to experience that yourself
OK...Ever seen a nail pop? Same thing. Put 3 foot of snow on the roof with the warm from the home turning it into slush and the nail directly below it. Most times leaks happen 3 to 5 years after the install.
Owen corning says nails to be places 2 inches from ends of shingles. 4 to 6? That's too fat from the edge. If each full shingle requires requires at least 4 nails according to Owen corning on their shingles then you'll have to stack all those nails on one end. And hope you don't have a steep pitch requiring 6 nails min. 2 inches from the edge is what most manufactures recommend and that's how you get their warrantee to back them.
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
And, if I may, the recommendation for extra nails in windy areas is to place them very near the previous middle nails for the same reason.
i love seeing guys act is if the're the worlds fastest roofer, but are nailing too close to the butt joint.
I really haven't seen a video yet that tells me how to go from ride cap into a T intersection of another ridge cap . Figure it on my own try to
Finally somebody that talks about this! I literally pull my hair out watching dozens of RUclips videos with people bragging about their speed and they are all nailing in the keyways or (butt ends). I'm a roofer in Seattle Washington and I promise you anything like that is not going to fly over here with the amount of rain we get lol. Thank you for showing these idiots on RUclips the mindset of a professional 👍👍
What is a butt joint?
Not one of those nails were leaking if they were leaking they would be rusty one rusty nail isn't a reason to reroof this guy is a scammer
And the water leaking into the house? Where did that come from?
Incorrect nailing patterns in between the 2 butt nails on a shingle creates nails that are to close to the offset patterns butt joints.
Just making a mess of that roof. Bending all the shingles. I’ve been roofing for 40 years never seen a nail leak.
Does this roof have a proper underlayment. It should have a felt underlayment. If there having problems with snow ridgevents and those low vents they replaced the ridge vents with are not the answer. They should of installed Duraflo Turbo vents which are higher and stick out of the snow.
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
@@KNowakSr maybe on a low pitch like 2/12 but if that’s the case then they should use flat roofing material like torch on. I’ve never seen a nail cause a leak.
Ive been roofing for 33 years. All types of roofs from hot tar to shingles. Nails rarely leak on a steeper pitched roof and when they do they are easy to spot. They get rusty first, the shank of the nail gets rusty and grows in diameter, then the nail will raise up a bit a push the shingle up some.
This guy s a joke scammer for sure
I'm confused dude!!!!!!!!!! I'm currently putting on some new OC shingles and the manufacturers spec's say to nail approx 1" from the end. Do you know better than the manufacturer?
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
You could nail it like 101111 where the butt joint is at the 0. The first and last nails should be about an inch from the edge of the shingle you are nailing into. Of course this is just a tip. Follow the manufacturer’s instructions on the bag.
That roof was not leaking
Leaked in 10 spots mostly with snow.
Instead of redoing a new roof I would have told them to get the Insulation looked at at you should not have that much ice on a roof and and as per installation instructions your nails are to be evenly spaced on the shingle witch puts a nail about 1-3 inches from every joint
@@kelbybueckert8434 wrong
@@kelbybueckert8434 wrong
wayne roadarmel the nail spacing is wrong I was thinking of something else but the about the rest I’m not wrong
@2:05 What the fuck is a "butt joint"? The nails don't look rusted anyway, I doubt they were causing any leaks.
Serious question why not just use colourbond tin? We use that in australia could last 100years
Costs,some do
We use clay,slate,metal of all and tar shingles here in USA.it all depends on what the home owners what to spend
I’m a little confused I’ve been licensed contractor with a 2 million dollar insurance policy and when I install every new Roof I follow manufactures instructions on the proper nailing patter and placement of nails I use owning co. Shingle architecture timberline all types u name it . I just finished 2 roofs these 2 past week instruction s say one inch from end . . Each bundle 30 square all say the same . Or if done wrong void warranty. Is this a insurance job ? Kidding but really I’m confused your saying your saying the nail should be 4 six inches from the end not 1 inch what gonna hold the end of shingle . On the butt joint . I don’t know to believe what your saying or void all my customers warranty on the instructions on each bundle of shingle. They clear state 1 inch from each end . But anyway thanks for sharing your vid
They can be an inch from the end, but the next course of shingles should cover that nail by 4 inches. I think there’s a lot of confusion in the comment section.
MoneyManHolmes
Your right.
It’s the incorrect nailing pattern of the shingle.
You can nail the shingle 1 inch from both but ends but the nailing pattern in between these 2 butt nails needs to nailed at a certain measurement or placement so the offset pattern you use or what the manufacturer suggest keeps the butt joints away from the nails.
You're missing the point. The nails do have to be 1" from ends . The other 2 nais spaced evenly. The problem is they put 5 6 or sometimes 7 nais a shingle then the next course of shingles has their but joints over these nails. If you look at some of my old videos I show some nails completely rotted and a hole through the lower course and Ice shield.
I had a roof installed that was a lot worse than this one.
Nice walkable job
This guy just trying to sell a job to the home owners and probably reap them off by using big words and maybe replacing one sheet of plywood. Lots of these guys just looking for a quick buck that's it.
This guy it’s RUclipsr he has to make money somehow
you guys just trying to get some work!!! you guys are good for judging but you'll make the same mistakes or will do worst job. this is not a really bad job compare to others i've seen!
Shut up goof
You have no idea
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That's b*******
That’s bush’s
im a carpenter lets think about this does the nail make a hole in the plywood. ? yes
no matter what you put under it ice an water shield don't matter over time if water gets to nail it will leak. are nails to close to but joint he'll yes. when ice builds up will water go up hill
yes. is this guy right mostly yes. we all get a nail close like that I just make sure we have good silicone an put some on top of it at least. we are just humans. but don't worrie Amazon I'm sure building a robot roofer