The Girl From Ipanema is a far weirder song than you thought
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Brazilian bossa nova isn't elevator music, it's actually really complicated! Let's find out why!
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0:00 Introduction
2:42 A brief history of Bossa Nova
8:35 Melodic sequences
13:25 The Blues countermelody
17:43 Harmony and ambiguity
24:29 Bridge comparison Ribeiro vs. Gilberto
27:25 Context and poetic deletion
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Was thinking Cherokee
something with undertale's music
Adam Neely maybe some kendrick lamar (to pimp a butterfly) or meshuggah?
Sir Duke, by Stevie Wonder
African polyrythmic drumming?
I'm a simple Brazilian, I see my culture on the title, I click
sepultura!!!
You are simple, indeed.
same here o/
eu
Nem acredito que vi 30 min de video e mal entendo inglês
Video: **has something from Brazil in the title**
Brazilians: Hah, you just activated my trap card!
You are right
We're everywhere, in every form and name.
Brasileiros estão a espreita em todos os videos do youtube só esperando alguem mencionar a gente
Vdd mano kkk
You have summoned us!
As a Brazilan, it’s honestly just about a lovesick man who wishes a girl would notice him, he isn’t obsessed with her or anything he just is infatuated
infatuation is a form of obsession
@@Anthony-oz1jc something that continually preoccupies a person's mind defines obsession, unlike infatuation in which the person strives to be more like someone, an obsessed person spends all their time thinking about this one person.
not really lovesick... it's more about being a middle-aged man, at the bar's sidewalk, watching a much younger woman passing by, and fantasizing a little bit. Creep-ish, but I agree that he is not obsessed with her
@@julesleodoro although it’s a middle age man singing, the story is through eyes of a young man
So he's a creepy pervert, got it
In Portuguese the lyrics are much more romantic and talks about beauty, love, grace and simplicity. They are not expecting anything from the girl, like in the English version, they are just contemplating her passing as a moment of grace, beauty and lonely sadness for them. It's like a devotion. Vinícius was a very romantic Don Juan type of man.
I love "Onde Anda Você", btw.
Thank You.
You said all truth about Portuguese idiom and bossa nova from Brazil it's another planet very far from statesonian version in english lirics. In english you have a romance between to souls in portuguese you have devotion complicity desire between 2 souls it's another dimension of express the human feelings
🎶🎵💋💋💋🍻🥂
That’s the truth about any song in Portuguese when we try to translate to English, it simply doesn’t work.
Thank you.
FWIW, I don't speak Portuguese, and that's how I interpreted the song. There's no reciprocation expected from the dude, he's just like "wow, she's amazing. She's so amazing that merely witnessing her beauty is sufficient."
when i was in highschool i had a friend whose dog HATED this song. he was normally super friendly and sweet, but if you so much as hummed it around him he would start growling. that dog apparently had no appreciation for bossa nova.
That's actually hilarious. That a friendly dog would go crazy Whit the most chill sublime music genre ever
Elvis sang a song called Bosa Nova
This is the funniest thing I've read all week
my brain skipped over the word dog and i was so confused as to why your friend chose growling as their usual reaction to a disliked song
@@kairi123able same here
Me watching this knowing nothing about music theory: mmm yes chords
hmm yes D flat u right
Hahaha!!!! 😂 You literally just basically explained what I was thinking! That was pretty hilarious
Underrated 😂
It’s totally over my head. This is the equivalent of diagraming a sentence where you take a perfectly good sentence and ruin it by dissecting into its individual parts and the whole meaning is lost.
I know. Very interesting. But after playing guitar for a few years for my own amusement, and trying to learn increasingly more difficult songs, it's now only 98.3% over my head.
After having studied Portuguese for a while and listening to the Portuguese lyrics, I was astonished to find that the lyrics are not a direct translation to the English lyrics you hear Astrud Gilberto sing. Here it is, translated literally:
Look, such a sight, so beautiful,
So filled with grace,
It's her, this girl who comes and who passes,
With a sweet swing, on her way to the sea.
Girl with body of gold
From the sun of Ipanema,
Her swing
Is more than a poem,
Is a sight more beautiful
Than I have ever seen pass by.
Ah, why am I so alone?
Why is there so much sadness?
This beauty that exists,
This beauty that is not only mine,
That also passes by alone.
Ah, if she but knew,
That when she passes by,
The world smiles,
Is filled with grace,
And becomes more beautiful,
Because of love.
Uma pequena correção. Ao final:
O mundo "inteirinho" (diminutivo de inteiro) se enche de graça = the whole world is filled with grace.
That's so beautiful!
Este comentário me faz pensar que traduções mais literais das letras devia ser mais comum. Eu sei que elas não são o ideal mas nesse caso e vários outros passa de verdade a mensagem.
@@LucaAnamaria wtf are you talking about lol???? this sounds like some incel pickup line lololol. the middle-aged dude is fantasizing about a young girl, staying around the area long enough to know she passes this exact spot every day. he's stalking her and thinking to himself "woe is me, im not fucking this sexy beach girl! she's so hot but i bet she doesn't know it! mmh, look at how her ass swings from side to side. if only this girl was MINE like and object or property. also, she's currently alone, so surely she's single!"
it's cringe, and gross, and incel-y, and coomer-y
@@ippanpedrozo1162it makes more sense in portuguese
Hi Adam, Thanks for researching and discussing "The Girl From Ipanema" I'm a 71 year old pro guitarist and have played for sixty five years. I was exposed to Bossa Nova in the early Sixties when I was 12 years old. I can understand some of the confusion surrounding this song by Antonio Carlos Jobim and Vinicius Moraes. It took me a while to understand, play and sing it with some authenticity. The song is basically the lament of a middle - aged man who is sitting in a beach side bar seeing a beautiful girl who passes by daily on her way to the beach. She is desirable to him and many others as well. He is attracted to her but she never seems to notice him which saddens him intimating a possible mid-life male crisis. Vinicius Moraes, a man, and the songs lyricist was in his mid-forties and Jobim was in his mid-thirties when they created this song in 1962. I think the confusing thing for most people is the fact that a woman is singing a man's lament and that they have only heard the most popular recorded version sung by a woman, Astrud Gilberto and never heard the original version sung by her husband,a man, Gaio Gilberto who was intended to be the vocalist on the American recording made in New York with saxophonist Stan Getz. As for the Bossa Nova music style rhythm you might want to look at the Original Score. I noticed that you were showing a score that had a 4/4 time signature whereas the original was scored and played in cut time, 2/2 or possibly 2/4. After all the song was most likely intended to be danced to and since people have two feet it makes sense to have a duple metered rhythm with the chord root and fifth tones on beats one and two respectively and syncopating the chord tones on the & ah following the beat. Bossa Nova is often described as having a side to side swaying rhythm as opposed to a Swing forward and backward rhythm motion and 2/2 accomplishes this nicely. At that time when it was created, especially in Brazil and in pretty much most of the rest of the world's bars which was where folks congregated to socialize dancing was an important part of socializing! Remember there was a dance associated with this music called The Bossa Nova. I learned to play Bossa Nova from guitarist Emily Remler, a graduate of Berklee College of Music and a Down Beat Magazine Poll winner, who I studied with from 1993-96 and who help get Astrud Gilberto out of retirement and back on the stage. Emily played in Astrud's Band for about four years. Emily often told me that American musicians tended to play the Bossa Nova rhythm to frantically by over or miss syncopating it thus losing much of its character and charm. I appreciate your thoughts on the harmonization and phrasing of the tune. Emily tended to play the song using this chordal approach if she was teaching from the Real Book: FMaj9 , G7, Gmin9, Gb7#9, Fmaj9 F#Maj9, B7 etc but would have played it in Db if performing with Astrud on a nylon string guitar.
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2/4 - the second beat is the strong one
It wouldn't surprise me if you were the only one to grasp the entire video.... 😂
Oh, and the lyrics are "o mundo inteirinho", not "o mundo sorrindo"
"Inteirinho" is a diminutive for "whole"
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i feel like most americans label bossa nova as "elevator music" whenever they hear it which is so annoying to me cause it's such a gorgeous genre of music :( it's a perfect mix of some of my favorite parts of music. the syncopation, american jazz influence, and instrumentation are all amazing and just because it's not fast and exciting by pop standards, it's "elevator music"
@@calculator1841 clearly there's only one moron here, someone that has no clue about linguistics and feels like they can judge someone on perfectly valid use of language
They're not entirely wrong.
Bossa Nova is something very delicate. Botch it up, or play some cheesy derivative, and it fully deserves to be called elevator music.
@@calculator1841 and I label you a troll.
I live in America and I try to avoid elevators, because you usually find them in really tall buildings and hospitals!
not because of the music!!!!
Totally agree! And unfortunately for the most part, any instrumental music. (Not saying all instrumental music is great) but I listen to a lot of instrumental music from all sorts of genres and there’s always someone who calls it elevator music!
morrendo aqui com as distorçoes numa letra tao deboa kkkkk como se fosse de terror e é literalmente uma gostosa andando na praia
Né, tipo, é só eles tentando expressar aquela sensação de quando você vê alguém aleatório, acha atraente e tenta fazer contato mas a pessoa não te nota. Não poderia ser mais inocente
A Única coisa estranha... É que reza a lenda que a era uma garota relativamente jovem , comparado a idade do compositor.
@@migueldantas3918 não é nem questão de rezar a lenda, era a Helô Pinheiro, que tinha 17 anos, enquanto Tom Jobim tinha 35
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Oh my goodness yes. Sou bossa americano, mas nunca cantarei essa ou qualquer outra bossa em inglês, é um lixo.
That song is often bashed to be "Elevator Music". Simply because everybody knows it. But it is far more! Thanks for making that clear!!
More because Bossa Nova is used a lot as elevator music. Everybody knows Help from The Beatles but nobody would call it elevator music.
strange fact: Tom and Vinicius wrote this song based on experiences they had in a bar in Rio de Janeiro that still exists and is in the neighborhood of Ipanema, they watched the same girl pass by this bar on the way to the beach and because they thought she was very beautiful they decided to write this song, this girl is still alive and is called Helô Pinheiro. Legend says that they wore drunk while watching Helô
Sounds all too likely, Rodrigo. Obrigada .
I agree. Yet the guy doing the video reduces it to oogling girls on the beach
i sat at THE table where this was written, and saw the "manuscript" framed and securely locked onto the wall. That was in the early 1980s, don't know if it's still there today...
@@miguelvasques7854 Perhaps you've heard of Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso, Chico Buarque e Geraldo Vandre? Some of the most famous musicians and songwriters of the day that you speak of were harassed, arrested and thrown out of the country by the military dictatorship(s). The fact that they existed the same place in time had nothing to do with any imagined tolerance or magnanimity dos milicos ditadores.
@@brucecampbell6133 none of them are talented or innovative musicians, their fame comes from politic matters. Elis Regina would be a much better example.
Adam “it actually goes a little bit deeper than that” Neely
That was also Adam said when his girlfriend said it is a big sausage you got.
Neelception - "We need to go deeper"
“He’s a .... .. ... highway child” - Jimi Hendrix
That’s what she said
"But wait! There's more!"
I was a Texan American living in Salvador Bahia Brazil when this song was released and on the airwaves. It powerfully blessed my 7 year old soul. I am still mesmerized by it at age 67. Your exposition today further explains why this song is so uniquely wonderful. Thank you. I am saddened by Astrud Gilberto's recent death. By a wonderful coincidence (for me), she was born in Salvador Bahia Brazil.
The Girl from Ipanema Sung by Astrud Gilberto in 1960. Became a huge hit in 1963. Astrud died in June 2023 aged 83 in the US.
This song has always been one of my favourites. Thank you Astrud.
did you comment this for likes without even watching the video
As for me, the definitive version. Heard it first when I was a very young kid, and from then it was ingrained.
It was Stan Getz' recording session with Joao Gilberto. He heard Joao's wife sing and asked her to sing on the record. She had not recorded before.
Aw, I didn't know she died last year 😞
I taught myself Brazilian Portuguese on Duolingo just to sing bossa ❤️
Ahh nice to hear someone else did that! I play piano and sing, and started learning Portuguese on Duolingo (many months ago) so I could sing Jobim songs with a good accent. I need to reboot on it though.
Nice to see people apppreciating our language/music
excactly me too!!
Tive a sorte de nascer falando Português aqui no Brasil, aprendemos Inglês ao passar dos anos para cantar Queen, Beatles e etc
I was lucky to be born speaking Portuguese here in Brazil, we learned English over the years to sing Queen and The Beatles too...
Isso é muito massa!!
"Ah, por que tudo é tão triste?"
- Ela cantava, com o maior sorriso no rosto
nossa ambiguidade, felicidade debaixo de chuva de canivete, so a gente mesmo. E nem adianta tentar explicar, gringo nao entende.
@@gabriel.brasileiro Eu sou gringo e quero entender. Estou apaixonado pelo seu país....
@@christiankliber Brazilians have lived a bittersweet existance for as long as Brazil was a thing. A culture of smilling despite endless tragedy developed. This ambiguity and bittersweetness of the Brazilian way of life is, in my opinion, what makes Brazilian culture so interesting .
@@christiankliber if you still want more, theres this video that explains how music survived the sensorship by sounding very happy superficially ruclips.net/video/TXjvwQDfnTI/видео.html
@@christiankliber Brazil had censorship for many years so having the lyrics sounding like a perfect composition and the instrumentalism sound like “off”, or “unfinished” was the way Brazil displayed ambiguity…
I played this song on a tour of Japan in 75’ as the MD/ keyboardist for the great Astrid Gilberto. Was great to know her ❤
Moraes also claimed that Helô Pinheiro, the woman who inspired the song, was "the paradigm of the young Carioca: a golden teenage girl, a mixture of flower and mermaid, full of light and grace, the sight of whom is also sad, in that she carries with her, on her route to the sea, the feeling of youth that fades, of the beauty that is not ours alone-it is a gift of life in its beautiful and melancholic constant ebb and flow."
Weird fact: the name "Ipanema" comes from the Tupi-Guarani language "Ypanema", which means "stinky water"
The Girl from Stinky Water would have been the most recorded song in history, not the second.
@@wayneurquhart1967 there must be more songs that have hidden translations?
Realmemte é um fato estranho
Nossa língua é estupidamente diversa
brazilian cities and their weird names part 3982626184732619
"thing more beautiful when remove useless thing"
"Juliet sun"
Julisun
jun
JS
@@Yesh77777 Bach?
Sun
Martina's voice is soooo nice, I need a full version of The Girl From Ipanema sung by her!
Agree! Thanks to Martina for sharing her lovely voice with us! 👏🏻👏🏻
Martina radiates charisma.
ruclips.net/video/5Z6i8UhOVXY/видео.html
Is she also a Brasileira?
Absolutely incredible analysis. It took an american guy to explain this brazilian musician the theory behind ambiguity and deletion of bossa nova. TY!
I'm american but a Joaozinho, I was peeved for years about the dumbing down of bossa nova and set out to play in the roots styles of Gilberto and Nara Leao to somehow reassert the real charm of the thing. How about Gilberto/Getz instead of Getz/Gilberto🙃 Just sayin'
Hi Adam
I am a recording engineer producer who has had the opportunity to record many times and befriend Tom Jobim and I must say that your observation on deletion, at the end of the video, was one of Tom’s highest priorities when playing and composing. It always called my attention how excited he would get when showing me a full chord from where he would Start to take notes out of so the chord would resonate better, opening space to melodies that would complement it.
Congratulations. This was an amazing study.
Okay! That is awesome! You just changed my world.
Que fantástico !
that really is awesome - what a privilege to record the man also :)
Okay, if that's so, then name your favorite jazz song as a teenager and why you liked it, and also something you learned about the song later in life.
@@hyperdrivedoll2097 trying to delegitimize him?
Its actually about this girl named Helô that Tom and Vinicius watched passing them as they were in a bar, she was so beautiful and just passed by everyone without needing anyone elses praise to confirm her beauty, which in itself made her even more beautiful. They were also drunk whilst writing.
Edit: she’s actually still alive to this day, Helô, the woman the song is about
Let me guess, you're related
Interesting, thank you for the info! Looked her up and I can't believe how young she looks in her 70s 😵💫
Yes, that is so cool!
@@drowningin no its a common story and they made sure to tell it in schools in 2016
helô has unspoken rizz
As a Brazilian who has started taking singing lessons I think it was a fascinating video. Thank you so much for sharing
It completely makes sense for brazilians. That’s exactly the way we express ourselves. It’s poetry. However the images you share - specially the samba ones - are far from way from reality. Ipanema is for us something like haven - the perfect beach (at least for us from 60’). Absolutely gorgeous music.
Fun fact: The 'quiet singing' style of Bossa Nova music originated out of necessity. Many jam sessions between young (American Jazz-influenced) Brazilian musicians happened at crowded apartments late at night. The quiet singing and corresponding chill style of Bossa Nova was literally born of not wanting to wake the neighbors.
didnt it also have to do with joao gilbertos innovations? he used to get made fun of for singing "through his nose"
Would love to read more about this
@@tidigimon ruclips.net/video/816EZaHExRM/видео.html
? Nolyn, this makes sense but wondering, do you have support, corroboration, for this concept of Brazilian musicians needing to sing softly - not to wake, ....or is this your idea alone? Just curios, thanks.
@@nickrenneker_music Caetano Veloso's book "Tropical Truth" explores both ideas. He talks a lot about these night time meetings in Nara Leao's apartment (the 'Muse of Bossa Nova') as well as Joao Gilberto's singing innovations which preceded these meetings. Compare his version of Chega de Saudade in 1959 with Elizete Cardoso's in 1957 and you can see the development of this technique. The apartment jam sessions didn't come into fruition until at least the beginning of the 60s...
Tom Jobim até hoje é o segundo compositor e artista mais tocado no mundo, ficando só atrás dos Beatles. Só que eles eram quatro.
que ele era um só na produção é completamente questionável né?
@@tomecabalzar5229 ele falou compositor e artista, não produtor, assim como os beatles não produziam sozinhos, não é? Acho que se ele não produzia sozinho não entra na questão. Acho q não entendi teu comentário
4?... 20...
Exato...como os 3 mosqueteiros....também eram 4.
Tom Jobim is&was a genius.
As a Brazilian, I can attest that there's nothing weird with the song, and changing its arrangements to be more palatable to an American audience is ok. I'm happy we don't do identity politics like you Americans do. Do not problematize this. Thank you for the appreciation of the song. And by the way, stop attacking white affluent people who enjoyed it too, plenty of white Brazilians love the song and samba too. Brazilian is not a race.
As an American player of bossa nova, I cannot stand bossas sang in English, it just doesn't ring right to me. I guess I'm just a Joaozinho
Thanks, I just loved your presentation of the girl from Ipanema. In the 60’S I got the sheet music but was disappointed. It didn’t have that Brazilian sound. So I listens to the recording until I picked out the very close version. I remember using, as the bass, kind of syncopated 3rd’s with my pinky finger in my left hand, followed by, still with left hand, middle finger and pointer finger, upper notes of that chord. I pivoted back and forth from my pinky to two upper notes of the chord in a Bossa Nova beat. At least I thought it was so cool at the time- ha ha😊
YOU, MORTAL!!!! have summoned the Brazilian internet troupe. We are many and we warmly greet you
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I'm a brazilian musician that spent almost 12 years in courses and conservatories here in São Paulo since my teens. I find very funny that I did not got such deep explanation os this classic here, the conservatory is a subsidiary of Berklee and the teachers hold the real book as the holy grail. Thank you for going after so many details about this song and respecting it's culture (I see your portuguese and salute you for it). Huge fan of your work and only wish you the best.
Souza Lima? Estudei lá também
Super deep.
I learned quite a lot from this video! Thanks so much! I subscribed 👍
I love how you play the sound of chords etc. simultaneously whenever you mention them. Useful for someone like me who doesn’t know music theory as well as I wish I did.
I just happen to stumble across this video and wow! What a wonderful, theoretical analysis of the iconic song. The explanation of deletion, regarding the chords used by Gilberto was great insight, all in the quest of compositional poetry, brilliant. Thanks Adam.
As a brazilian i highly recomend for those who want to know more the sound of bossa the album Chega de Saudade. This is one of the most influential albuns for music in Brasil
yes!
By which artists??
@@santisouk1924 João Gilberto
I have some bossa phases that I get into and out of, but that album... Chega de Saudade - João Gilberto (1959) is one of the ones that I am ALWAYS putting on. Every couple of months I feel the need to go back and listen to it.
Quick story for those who don't know and please correct me if I happen to be wrong here. I believe that before that 1959 album there weren't many famous artists recording with more than 1 microphone. You would "mix" the sound by placing musicians strategically in the recording room, and the vocalist would have to stay in front, and usually push his voice forward almost opera-like.
The new tech of getting 1 mic for voice and 1 mic for guitar gave people like João Gilberto the ability to experiment with lower voices, giving rise to his now very famous whispering-style of singing. Every video i've seen of him live has that very same what seems to be an AKG 414, super close to his face. In 2020 we can listen to something from 60 years ago and take these details for granted. The album is less than 25 minutes long and has around 10 songs, it goes by in a breeze...
One of my favorite albums from that time period
@@kevin_dasilva now that's impressive, also been having bossa phases and it really is one of those things that makes me happy for being born in brazil
I'm a brazilian musician and I'm usually a bit defiant towards people talking about brazilian music because in my experience they never quite seem to get the subtlety of it or even, sometimes, their facts straight, but this video is the absolute opposite of that : precise, subtle and inspiring. Cheers from a brazilian fan.
What do you think about Paul Mauriat's version of Brazilian music?
I knkyw what you mean Im a big baden Powell fan and brazillian music in general
Worry about your president. He's dooming the world with the deforestation. That happens, no one talks about Brazilian music.
@@guysmiley7289 That's pretty out of right field - why even mention that in a discussion like this? I wouldn't bring up Trump every time an American discusses something.
Guy Smiley ew politics
shoo
Two years late, but on the off chance you see this, thanks for making this video. In 30 minutes, you expanded my brain from only hearing and understanding tin pan alley harmony to hearing the poetics of how substitutions and deletions can imply without saying. I'm a writer before a musician, and I understand the power of omission in that medium, so applying that knowledge to a musical context is eye-opening. Excellent vid. Bass.
bass indeed
I don't know how I even ended up here but I watched the whole thing. Haven't thought about music theory since high school but I loved all of this
The Portuguese announcements for each part of the video are very Spanish-esque (or, as we call it, Portunhol); Martina's pronunciations, though, being a Brazilian's raised in the US, sound slightly exotic, but charming and correct.
Yeah
That's something to be expected from someone who speaks English in a country where many speak Spanish as a second or foreign language (and also as their first language). And, yes, her pronunciation is quite correct and exotic with a hint of Portuguese from the northern/northeastern part of Brazil. Once, talking to a very nice North American old lady about a text written in Spanish where Portuguese was expected, she told me I might be confused because both languages are very similar (indeed). The only surprising fact to that conversation was that I am a Brazilian Portuguese native speaker and I can really tell one language from the other. :)
thank you
I find it a bit odd how she seems to pronounce the NH in "souzinho" a bit more like a velar nasal (like the NG in English 'singing') than as a palatal nasal (the more usual realization of Portuguese NH, Spanish Ñ, French/Italian GN). Perhaps a [ŋʲ] rather than a [ɲ]. Also, perhaps there's a very short schwa diphthong at the end of her open O's /ɔ/.
eu como brasileiro AMO um delicioso sotaque 😋
Fun fact: this song is about an actual girl. Her name is Heloísa Pinheiro.
Everyone already knows this
@@arvaakuka8568 I didn't though, don't speak for me
Even more fun fact: She appeared in Playboy with her daughter
Arvaa Kuka Are you sure? I had no idea until I played the song
@@arvaakuka8568 i didn't
and i'm brazilian
So much of this, is way over my head, yet I absolutely love this sort of in depth analysis, of an absolutely iconic song. More please!
This bossa nova classic was recorded 423 times worldwide. Samba song "Aquarela do Brasil" - wirtten by Ary Barroso (1903-1964) in 1939 - was recorded 416 times. Garota de Ipanema was The secong song most recorded of all times, behind only Yesterday by Beatles.
Repetition legitimizes
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RReeppeettiittiioonn lleeggiittiimmiizzeess
-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIA
knock knock knock "leonard!", knock knock knock "leonard!", knock knock knock "leonard!"
Some day he'll throw everybody off and start saying it once every time lmao
"Perfection is not when there's nothing left to add. Perfection is when there's nothing left to take away"
I needed this today. Played along during your breakdown.You helped me understand a lot about the arrangements and I very much appreciate it.
A brilliant video. The use of the Bernstein clip on deletion tied everything together wonderfully. That and your commentary on it's importance highlighted the examples of "dropped" chords and the inversions missing the root note (which was played by the base) and showed how they contributed to the song's unique feel. Thank you for this delightful and educational experience.
Omg music theory is so hard, that music was made in a bar in front of the beach, how come there is so much architecture behind it, they were not thinking about it but there it is
Well...they were geniuses....
E músicos, o que provavelmente faça com que seja beeem mais fácil pra eles fazer música mesmo num bar...
(do que pra mim, pelo menos, que não sei nada de música no sentido de acordes e tons, harmonia melodia e essas coisas...)
O ouvido do Tom foi treinado desde pequeno pelo pai, que era maestro, o pai tocava notas aleatórias e ele tinha q advinhar qual era, nao é como se ele tivesse só estudado numa faculdade. Ele aprendeu a falar a "língua" musical ainda criança.
And they were probably drunk
Many of the best "pop" or non-classical musicians make music that sounds good and don't really worry about the music theory. Famously, the Beatles couldn't read sheet music when they started, and even today, Paul and Ringo aren't especially book-heavy in their approaches.
All this is to say that music theory is good for some, but isn't a requirement for making good music. Make something that sounds good and people will want to listen to it.
The theorists will come in afterwards to try and explain why.
@@raimarulightning in the case of Jobim, however, he was trained in composition as well as playing various musical instruments.
Brazilian here, one of my favorite aspects of bossa nova is that It's, weirdly, hugely influential in Japan, some people say finding Brazilian records there is even easier than here, also, a lot of Nintendo background music is bossa nova/samba, specifically, the 3ds Mii theme sounds a lot like "summer samba".
Most cafes and book offs (2nd hand bookstores) here in Japan play bossa nova all the time.
_pizzicato five_
Have you ever heard ''New Wave bossa nova'' from Zelda Majora's mask? And Also there is a Japanese Singer called Sayuri Kokushou, listen to '' ふり返してSomeday'' and '' 大きい猫 - big cat'', its basically bossa nova based. You can find her albuns to download in this link ''jpop80ss.blogspot.com/search/label/SAYURI%20KOKUSHO''
The first song is from 1987 BALANCE OF HEART album, and the second one is from 1989 Sakana Album. I'll definitively like these songs.
Também sou br, mas escrevi em inglês pra geral entender.
That's so interesting. I know there's a decently sized Japanese population in Brazil, maybe some of them moved back to Japan and brought their Brazilian music with them.
It might be connected to Brazil's large Japanese diaspora. Largest in the world I think
Bossa Nova became really popular in Japan. Gilberto particularly enjoyed performing for Japanese audiences later in his life.
I am from Brazil and I am so happy I stop on this channel! Wow, you really took the time to learn about the song and the history! Thank you for that! This was great! Bravo!
"I didn't come to explain, I came to confound."
-Abelardo Barbosa, o Chacrinha
Basically everything made in Brazil brings more questions than answers.
Case in point: our current government.
HAHAHA
That's even true for beekeeping
O funk mantém essa tendência
Surpresa que não tem um "quem é brasileiro dá joinha" aqui na sessão de comentários
"We're going to be analyzing it in the key of F" while standing in front of a giant A.
A & Neely
It was a temporary key change
That's pretty standard, whenever I'm dealing with giant A-----'s all the most prominent thought in my mind is "ffffffffffffffffff-"
He had just said America.
Guessing it was for A section, as in from AABA, since he metioned starting with the A section.
Man, you're amazing! I loved that deep analysis and you verbally opened my eyes on the principle of improvization - using the current chord's notes and filling in gaps with the main key notes. This is much easier to understand than learning all the modes (like Dorian, Mixolydian, etc.) and thinking which of them I'm playing now. Thanks a lot!
I’m absolutely in love with bossa nova music. Thank you for this incredible video and analysis of the song that started it all.
This bears saying: your editors skills are underrated and under appreciated.
Also great analysis
I think he edits his own videos, which is even more impressive.
This video is very psychodelc,
thanks,
signed me, the editor
this video is very psychodelc,
@@AdamNeely Which program/programs do you use to edit?
I hate how bossa nova, funk, jazz, or any number of really intricate genre's get classified as elevator music/background music. "Why you listening to elevator music bro!?"
Just turn on some hard bop and that'll solve the elevator music misconception, but create a new one in them saying "it's just noise"
Funk became commercial music
uhm you're hanging out with the wrong crowd. I put a jazz song on and people are like "oh that's nicee"
Ugh... The worst was listening to Herbie Hancock's watermelon man in a shopping mall toilet. It was a bitter sweet experience.
It is used in elevators because it is relaxing lol. Listen to wathever you wish regardless what people say.
You did a great job with this. Thank you. So much useful, interesting context. Educational and entertaining. Good job!
You are absolutely amazing! Could listen to you all day. Thankyou for enlightening us.
You have no idea how CUTE it sounds to us Brazilians when people sing properly in Portuguese with just a little "grace accent"" Congratz to the singer!
The singer is a native speaker of Portuguese
@@joemiller947 nice! Where from?
@@joemiller947 but not the Brazilian Portuguese. It makes a MASSIVE difference.
@@edoo.dribeiro já sei, mas ela tem um pai americano e uma mãe brasileira, ela é uma falante nativa de português brasileiro
agreed
You're going to make me cry. My late father was a Jazz and Blues musician who spent much of his life transcribing different recordings because he was dissatisfied with the transcriptions in The Real Book. I have boxes of his transcriptions that I need to scan and make available.
oh please do
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That is exciting news.
@@RanBlakePiano This being RUclips, I made a 3 1/2 min video explaining. ruclips.net/video/Z7fQd0qyyBE/видео.html
What a great thing to do
When you mentioned the video's length i immediately thought "no way", however I was totally fascinated and watched all the way through. Thank you for your insights and sharing your vast knowledge.
Awesome video! You explained exactly what I needed to hear!! I knew there were so many slight, (but as you show here, NOT so slight) differences in how this song has been played over the years.
Any yet, now I know why I keep gravitationg toward the Gilberto arrangement in Gb.
I also love your treatment on the importance of keeping in mind the context of the chords played in relation to the keys ( the tonic never hit in any-wow how did you hear the keys, when the tonics were SO ambiguous!!!) And not playing the tonic note in any of the chords.
The chords played were sometimes so wonderfully sparse!
None of the others (except by perhaps Brazil 66) are as good as Astrid and Gilberto's rendition.
Marvelous job, old bean!💯
I was obsessed with bossa nova in middle school. Its so calming, interesting and beautiful. Portuguese is a wonderful language to listen to. Agua de beber and aguas de marco were my faves.
Wait till u understand that Aguas de marc(march’s waters) is related to the end of summer and the natural tropical rains that Rio has in March. The huge depressing moment that made a beautiful music
Portuguese is just bastardized Spanish
here, in brazil, we're close to the "Águas de Março", where's my birthday. And, i was born in a city famous for its pools... the joke's ready to use...
Portuguese is a poetic sounding language. Very sexy, too.
Agree❤
Gilberto’s simplified chords in the bridge is what gives the vocal space to breath creating the sadness of the lyric. That’s the essence of the song. For a vocalist, Gilberto has allowed that emotion to come through. The jazz progression takes that away by making you feel that you’re marching through the chord progression. Gilberto is the way to go if you want the song to have feeling.
I had the exact same thought!
I can't help but think of the American jazz equivalent being Herbie famously mishearing Miles telling him not to play the "butter" notes
It is a bit heavy handed (the jazz). Had I not heard this analysis, I wouldn't have understood why. Heavy handed music diminishes the listener's own experience. Gilberto's harmonies give space to the vocalist, yes, but they also give space to the listener. My own emotions emerge instead of feeling like I'm being told how to feel. It feels more like my own experience, which gives it a deeper authenticity to me, as a listener. Add Astrud's gentle voice, wow!
The important thing is deletion, as the guy in Harvard said, it let's your ears "imagine" different worlds :)
Those deconstructed chords - great explanation, thanks!
Adam, what a great teacher you are. Thank you very much for sharing your academic insights of this iconic song.
Such a great video, thank you so much! 🙌🏼
As a Brazilian, this is just another comment starting with "as a Brazilian" so I can legitimize my Brazilian-ish statement (loved the video btw)
As a Brazilian, I find your comment very amusing kkk
As a Brazilian,
I do the same with Portuguese but nobody talks about us lmao
@@jeffreymatias5879 It'd be nice if he did a video on fado
@@fernandosamachado that would actually be interesting. I'm learning Fado guitar now and it's not as straightforward as I would've hoped
I get really irritated when people call bossa nova elevator music. Its some of the grooviest and deep music out there and a lot of people don't put respect on it. Great video!
I agree. Bossa Nova also sounds great in dentists' waiting rooms.
Scrubert:
That's true----bossa nova is real beautiful music and a genre all on its own. And I've always thought The Girl From Ipanema was a genuinely haunting but beautiful tune, just like another tune "Quiet Nights, Quiet Stars" which is also hauntingly beautiful and sad-sounding.
I agree, its one of my favorite genres, but its still elevator music lol
It infuriates me
I'm Brazilian and I call it elevator music as well hahaha
This and the Nebula version are so well done, thank you!!
Thank you for such a detailed analysis, long since I wanted to crack it’s code always feeling intuitively about this song , but never really approached.
Here I am, a Brazilian, learning things that I never imagined about this song, from this guy from another country. Congrats, man, congrats. Saravá, Tom. Saravá, Vininha.
Pô, bom demais! O nível da pesquisa do Adam é incrível! Tô doido pra uma legenda pra poder espalhar esse vídeo. Vou tentar tirar um tempo pra isso.
@@seumemel Bro, se juntar umas 5/6 pessoas dá pra legendar rápido. Eu animo
@@riiprafa Tô dentro também!
Great info in the vid, however, if you just go to a nearby beach, you will understand everything you need to know about the song :)
Lol Me too
Grave mistake Andam. You've summoned them! The Brazilian horde has come to flood the comments section!
Só vai dá os BR aqui agora aushauhsua
Here we are
Kkk
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oi oi oi!
What a meticulous job! Thanks for sharing!
Really well done analysis, history, context ... everything! I see this song now in completely different way. Thanx!
As a Brazilian I absolutely loved this video.
The cultural analysis was absolutely perfect and respectful.
Thank you, man!
Or, like we talk here in brazillian northeast...
Valeu aí, macho!
macho, dizem isso no nordeste? wtf xkmelsmdmx
@@GlassyVI a gente usa mais "mah" ou "Mash". Mas é aqui entre Ceara, RN e Pernambuco sim. rs
Northeast*
@@GlassyVI acho q só no Ceará, aqui no RN a gente não usa
@@GlassyVI aqui em Salvador bahia não mas considerando o jeito que a linguagem varia aqui no nordeste é capaz que em qlqr outra cidade falem isso ashshsh
6:30 just to add something to this point, bossa nova was seen as this white american whashing because of the political scenario that was happening during the period this style was born, the bossa nova was mostly criticised in that period because most of the other artist were creating songs which criticized the government, while the high class listened to bossa nova which had nothing to do with politics. Another point is in that period the american culture was rising in the musical scene due to a moviment called tropicalismo which affected not only music but art overall
Well put, and very important to note--thank you!
Thank you for this additional context!
Reminds me a little of the critique of the impressionist artists. While europe at the time was in a time of very grave violence and everything was burning down from world war 1 and death was everywhre, Monet and his people where painting fucking daffodils. And ithat angered the hell out of a lot of artists.
@@shayneoneill1506 I think that's rather interesting. It seems strange to me that artists were mad at them, since the impressionists were the ones who essentially liberated artists from the traditions of the establishment, giving artists a lot more creative freedom, and bringing respect to alternative art styles. It's what allowed for the surreal beauty of a lot of war art, in styles that would have been ridiculed thirty years earlier. Anyway, you make an interesting point.
it must be said that Pixinguinha was accused of using jazz (or better, american) elements in the early 20s or even before (songs like Carinhoso and Rosa were written in 1917)
God trying to understand anything in this video without having any idea what a bridge, chord, key, or octave is was a little bit of a trip.
this is fascinating
thank you very much for the depth of detail
Brazilian here: this is one of the best analysis of Bossa Nova I've ever seen. Good grief... This is musicology material. One could easily turn this video into a grant proposal for a PhD in musicology. Shit, Adam... You should come to Brazil (after the pandemic is over, shit is dire right now over here) and do more videos on Bossa Nova.
SPA! 😁
I second your comments. Besides he is the only American RUclipsr I know who can pronounce the proper Portuguese J instead of the Spanish one.
É memo
I would like to see him analyzing other genres of Brazilian music that are less Americanized like choro, frevo or sertanejo
tottally agree! im in awe! too good for a gringo! hahaha
@@diogoepronto
Mano, ia ser daora ver ele comentando uns modão de viola
The translations of bossa are not bad, even people in Brazil don't know what "bossa" is.
"Bossa" is better translated into english, as "swing", so
"Bossa Nova" "New Swing"
Bossa Nova shouldn't have a translation, just like we don't translate Blues or Jazz. Bossa Nova is Bossa Nova. They need to learn to pronounce it, not translate it.
@@laylarsa isnt bossa nova the "new wave"?
@@sandalero "Wave" in Portuguese is better translated as "Onda". We only say "Bossa" when referring to Bossa Nova.
eu sei :)
What a brillant video!!! Really incredible and enjoyable explanation.
A fascinating and informative analysis. This helps to explain why I was so captivated with this song and with bosa nova at such an early age. Thank you!
Hearing Adam Neely speak portuguese warms my heart. Muito fofo!!
@fjf sjdnx shut up, go back to your sad little life and leave Brazilians alone
@fjf sjdnx what's that got to do with the topic at hand?
fofinho demais nee
My husband calls my nephew "fofinho" :) because he was such a round and cuddly baby. My husband lived in Brazil for a couple of years. We will travel there together some day...
@@Margar02 it means cute as well as 'round' hahah
As a South American, it is really weird for me to hear the prejudice of bossa nova as elevator music in the US.
Here bossa nova is seen as very cerebral and sophisticated. I guess understanding the lyrics helps a lot. Because lyrics of bossa nova tend to be sad and poetic, which doesn't fit the notion of having it as light background music.
Latin music is indeed sophisticated. Most of the music I play along to is jazz. I don't care what others think as most of them are uneducated about music and prefer to stay with genres rooted in 2's and 4's versus the more unique use of 3's, 5's and 7's in Jazz and Latin. Cool to hear your perspective man.
As a North American, Pop music is annoying to me lol it's overplayed and all the same IMO. Though I do still have the thought of "elevator music" with bossa nova, I really really do enjoy the sound of it.
Don't take it personally. American elevator music respects no one.
Try not to take it personally--no music is immune to being dumbed down here--and it could be worse. After elevators, the last venue in the devolution of music is as a background hook for pharmaceutical commercials. Once there, no one will ever want to hear it again.
Man, it's the same here in europe sadly, people that don't play instruments themselves are so dumbed down by the pop shit playing on the radio all day that they don't really listen anymore i think.
Thank you for being incredibly educational and entertaining. Such good work and channel.
Thanks for the video, Adam. Very, very good explanations
Girl sings: "ahh.. why everything is so sad?.."
*meanwhile has the biggest smile ever.* lmao
AMBIGUITY
There is an old mantra with country music singers:"sadder the song, bigger the smile"
THE EXPERIENCE OF LIFE IS MADE OF A CONSTANT STREAM OF LAYERED FEELINGS SO WHY MUSIC SHOULDNT BE LIKE THIS
happiness cant exist without its counterpart. reminds me of nat king cole´s smile, which has a message of almost "rebellion" against sadness, its almost as if hes saying, smile IN SPITE of sadness.
All the explanations are really kind. But the matter can be simple: the girl forgot to express the lyrics
Does anyone else notice that Stevie Wonder thinks not a problem to play a song In two different keys because he cares about his audience enough to do that? This is why we love the guy.
kerrist, what a boatload of work! and it still needs a parte 7 to lead us through the difficult subtly syncopated rhythms !
I have a tin ear and haven't read sheet music since 2012. A lot of the terms went over my head, but you explained everything so clearly.
This is a history I didn't know about and, with my tin ear, I never would have picked up on without this video. Thank you.
Funny thing I see when english speakers sing this song is they often ignore the "a" in "a caminho do mar", which basically changes the meaning of the song in portuguese. "Caminho do mar" means something like "a path/road/route to the sea" whereas "a caminho do mar" means "on her (in the song) way to the sea". So just a tip: don't neglect the "a" :)
Don't be so harsh on people. Not everyone in a native Brazilian speaker.
As a person who speaks both languages, the "a" is quite hard to hear, since it doesn't have its own syllable within the lyrics, and is (rather lazily, in keeping with the vocal style) squished onto the end of balanço. In fact, until I checked the lyrics just now, I wasn't really aware of it's existing at all! Obviously, it's important for singers to check the lyrics, but if that little auditory nuance can be missed in some Brazilian recordings, they can hardly be blamed for the omission, particularly if they don't speak any Portuguese.
@@philtaylor3098 it was never my intention to be harsh on non-Portuguese speakers and I'm sorry if you felt that way. It was more of a friendly tip.
@@elainealcantara8382 apparently someone was overwhelmed by the thought "I've been singing this wrong for years!" lol 😆
@@philtaylor3098 But she gave a good tip here. It changes the meaning. She wasn't harsh, she just pointed out something important! =D
It feels so weird to see someone foreign I admire talk about my country's music. I like it.
Same...
That makes us two, friend
Nicely weird, I would say.
idem
Bro this is a world classic, what do you mean?
Fun fact in 1998 I took a music appreciation class with the female lead, Marpessa Dawn. 3:15 She would have been in her early 60s and very sweet. It looks like she passed in 2008. We watched the movie in class. Otherwise you would have never known. She walked to the school and I drove her a few times when I saw her walking. Glad I met her.
The counter melody is a section of “Laura” the theme from the 1944 noir film of the same name … the mysterious girl who lingers in the mind is the common thread … that song would be worth your time as well. The harmony and sequence structure represents the daydreaming obsession on the memory of the girl … 🤔🤫😍😌
That’s cool if the countermelody is a quote!
It's unfortunate that bossa nova gets a bad rep as "elevator music". It's a beautiful genre with several masterpieces. Try João Gilberto's debut album "Chega de Saudade" (the title track was translated to English as "No More Blues"). It pretty much cemented the genre's main features.
Have you got a link for that.? I would like to hear it very much. 👍
@@alex-E7WHU Here you go: ruclips.net/video/Fum0TM-PAfM/видео.html
@@gpeddino thanks gui, much appreciated. 👍
It seems to me that Jobim was the real father of the Brazilian Popular Sound, what beautiful melody and harmony.
Elevator music to the uninitiated. That song is in my top ten faves. It's so beautifully haunting. Boss Nova is my favorite music genre hands down.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate this woman's beautiful voice?
I took not only one, but several. Martina is a real find.
I kept rewinding to listen to the clips over and over haha. Her voice is so full and smooth and crisp
her voice is pretty good but she cant speak portuguese realy well that ruins the flow of the music
Does she have a RUclips channel?
@@victorgusmao4352 I doubt anyone that isn't fluent in Portuguese would notice, it's very good.
This was such a cool video. So informative