Building a forge for blacksmithing - Part 1
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Surprising results all things considered.
This is my first charcoal forge built, it's not perfect but it's adequate, and is the first step towards actually blacksmithing.
If you are interested in a DIY forge kit let me know and I'll do something about it.
Otherwise thank you very much for watching.
I love how you work with your child 👍
A friend of mine has surmised that in China, small people make the best models for product presentation as it makes the products appear properly sized for those of larger, European stock. You got "Shanghied" there, friend. 😃
Child powered forging! Well done - the romance was worth it!
In the UK people buy there kids home use bouncy castles they don't last very long and when I worked in a recycling centre there were dozens of the inflation pumps thrown away. they make great forge pumps and I used to sell them for £10 each about $20 Australian Dollars just some information that might apply to you guys as well.
Cheers mate, when I build a bigger forge that sounds like the go.
Excellent videography! The editing was equally superb, especially the rhythmic brake work! That anvil will work better if you get the rust off. I see you persist at that left-handedness, but you are compensating well. You are a thoughtful artist. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks mate 👍
Okay, I anticipated "slight whiff of cheap and nastiness" so I am feeling rather self satisfied.
On the serious side. I would love a DIY forge kit - but I still lack an anvil and basic tools so do not yet have a justification. 😁 I do want to make a charcoal retort design I saw, which pipes the outgassed volatiles around to under the retort to keep the flame up and continue the process. Basically when the wood has all been converted to charcoal, the fire runs out of fuel and goes out. Happy to dig out the design and share it. Makes barrel-load batches.
Yeah the anvil is the deer part.
I was fortunate to inherit mine.
I haven't made that style of charcoal retort yet. After using mine for a bit I can see the advantage of the drum style, not having to process the wood as much.
Thanks for sharing your interest in the forge DIY kit. Helps me now if I'm on the right track or not. 👍
Just use a fat block of steel, doesn't even have to be hardened. Make sure it's well attached to something solid and hammer away.
Very very cool DIY forge and blower fix.
I have used coal in the past (made a tiny coal forge) and it's absolutely usable.
But it burns up charcoal rather fast, yet you do get usable hot steel...
Two pointers: Rebar can be mild steel and it can be tool steel (upon varying per demand)... I found that the hard way.
Blacksmithing is super fun - but you definitely get tired... :)
Thanks mate
I'll have to do some testing on the stuff that I've got and see what it is. I'm guessing a heat and quench will tell me what I need to know.
a $50 (Ozito) cordless workshop blower from bunnings plugged into a piece of ducting will increase your forge efficiency enormously. Seriously... they are the bees knees for a forge.
We actually went the whole hog & bought the dewalt, because we already had the batteries. So impressed we also use it on the Pizza oven, where it has dramatically increased the quantity & quality of our pizza coals, & made our pizza chef a happier man
Interested to see how that Unimig pulse Mig is going. The guys using the metalwork/forge shed at "the woodworkers guild of the ACT" loved it. I used it for mig-ing all sorts of aluminium boat fittings, and it is doing a fine job.
It's still going strong. I don't use it all the time but when I have a big aluminium job I'm sure happy it's there.
That's a really nice forge I think you did a fantastic job on it! Thanks for sharing your building of it.
Thanks 👍
I remember turning the crank for my grandpa while he made hammer wedges
That's awesome 👍
I made a very rough forge a couple of years back. For $2 I bought a handheld electric hair dryer down at the opshop, plumbed it in and Bobs your uncle. If and when it stuffs up, its only a couple of bucks.
Yes I was tempted to go down that route myself though after doing a bit of research the hand crank blower according to the internet 🤔 tends to use less fuel as your only heating when you're cranking, of course you can turn the hair dryer on and off but that seemed more annoying than just turning a handle at the time. Another aspect that led me down the path of a hand crank goodness was the noise factor. I find the drone of a hair dryer to be annoying. But that's all just personal preference at the end of the day if you're heating metal and getting the desired results it really doesn't matter. 👍
@@LittleAussieRockets Foot pedal control for hair drier!
Yes a foot switch would fix that problem but hold the that thought as I just found the exact same blower with an electric motor and a speed controller online for the same money 😅. I'm thinking there will need to be a part two
@@LittleAussieRockets Way to go!
As usual, informative, entertaining and generally interesting to watch. Nicely done. If you paid half the price, I guess you would be half as disappointed.
Cheers mate 👍
How much would a kit run
I haven't properly worked it out but I imagine around the $60
Never did figure out why coal was basically unobtainium for love or money in Australia. I would actually use it in a forge over gas as its got some advantages when it comes to blacksmithing odd-shaped objects and also for forge welding steel in low-oxygen environments. I get by with propane like everyone else but it can be an expensive proposition for people when you're running high temps. I will put you onto a mate in WA's channel called Sam Towns, he's got a few instructional videos about hammer technique so you don't end up busting yourself. Its actually something that's best taught to people otherwise they can hammer-thumb themselves and get into all sorts of strain and tendon problems down the track.
Mind you, I'm not much of a blacksmith and would never call myself that!
There are electric versions of those little blowers too and farrier sales can be handy for some stuff, for new folks starting out, the Vevor anvils are great value and most everything else gets sort of made yourself with tools, as many metalworkers will say, if you cant make the tool, you are the tool! :)
I'll have a look at Sam's channel as I need all a help I can get 👍
Sam Towns is a DUDE!!
Watched him smithing in 40degee heat. He was all sweat before he called it!
@@LittleAussieRocketsyes, you should! He specialises in knives but knows his smithing stuff.
Although he does use the American style venturi burners, he's good for Australian "stuff"
@@jamesspry3294 Yeah if you're working in Australia, you best get tough if you can't get smart in this weather that's for sure. I'm in a relatively mild part of NSW close to the coast so it can get into the high 30's through summer for long stretches.
Winter is great though, not too cold or hot and just right
Good to see the first thing made on the forge is a tool for the forge :)
Thanks Ben👍
Got the same one did the same thing
good work! I would round off part of the square edge of the anvil for bending 1/4" or so....and use your shoulder and lift your whole arm rather than your elbow when you're hammering...otherwise you'll know about it very quickly.
Thank you that's good advice 👍
@@LittleAussieRocketsthere's some Slavic bloke in the US he has done a tutorial about how to use your shoulder and not your wrist. Can't remember his name but it was on "That Works" channel. He's done a few other tutorials as well. Knowledgeable bloke, and old school too!
What about gas forges? Is propan also difficult to get? I have a propan and a char coal / forging coal forge and the char coal isn't pushing the temperature of the forge -.- takes ages to get a piece to forging temp. On the other hand you can't ruin your pieces as no piece will ever burn in your forge with char coal :P
we can get the propane, I'm trying to keep the cost low. And I'm making my own charcoal so the little forges is basically free to run.
I enjoyed that! Thanks
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it 👍
After that modification that fan is probably worth 40 bucks now, that's about 3 bucks an hour.... New business venture..... Lol
Forge works great though.
Nice to see you have a minion helping you out with shoveling and blower. Perhaps next blower version will be from a bouncy house reject (ruclips.net/video/xfXYiw13Y_8/видео.htmlsi=jigf3gjKntqocApa). Hair dryer or shop vacuum could be adapted as well to the hose up put. Automotive exhaust repair shops may carry semi flexible steel exhaust pipe that may replace the plastic air hose if heat becomes an issue. They may have short lengths in their scrap bins too.
My dad did something similar in the 50’s but he used a junkyard acquisition of an automotive fan. Like you, he was a machinist.
Wishing you and your family a blessed week filled with gentle seasonally appropriate weather. Peace brother
Thanks mate 👍
What do you call the plate thing that you were grinding on top of? (Magnetic thing??)
I think i need one of those
It's called a magnetic chuck they normally used on a surface grinder.
Awesome. Thanks for the response 🤙
Next week at Aldi's you find an electric induction furnace. And a power hammer.
That would be a dream come true.
I'm thinking about building a power hammer or hydraulic press maybe leaning towards the side of the hydraulic press.
Could the blower be changed into a foot crank?
To be honest I don't know. I don't think the little blower that I used would really suit a foot crank as it would need a flywheel to help with momentum.
am i the only one who thought about using a wind resistance exercise bike as a blower for a forge
That is a great idea 💡
Do you have drawings for the cutout pieces?
I do. I'm still refining the design. The fire pot needs to be just a little wider, depth is good and the heat output is very usable but i could be better. once I'm happy they will be available
@@LittleAussieRockets Amazing! The design is so simple but great. I was thinking immediately that I could order those pieces precut from local shop.
Thanks mate I will have them available as soon as time permits 👍
Get a $30 drill, put the shaft of the blower in the chuck, and set the speed low. No more hand cranking.
I really don't mind the hen cranking it's almost soothing to be working with metal and not using power tools. I am currently designing a power hammer so I guess that's going to ruin that.
Might have to plasma cut a coal scuttle…
Whole project looks good, starting to get ideas for works plasma machines and scrap offcuts.
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How much would a kit set us back? 👀
I'm thinking around $60 that is all the sheet metal parts and the fire pot.
A perfect match. The forge blower and the hammer, both came from China.
True 🤣
Rio *
True, I've heard it called rebar or Rio.
Nice project 👍
But a 35$ three speed hair drier would do wonders 🤣 No child labour required.
Good point, I did think of that but I like the no power required aspect.
And I have three kids so no shortage of labour. 😆
+1
כררגיל עבודת ריתצוך מושלמת שלך. לאורך זמן פח ניורוסטה איננו עבה מספיק ומתעוות. תצטרך בסוף מפוח חשמלי, ורצוי צנטרפוגלי (ולא מפוח כפות). אחרי מספר תנורי נפחות שבקישור - "תנור תעלה" TRENCH FORGE הוא היעיל מכולם לעבודה עם פחם.
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Thanks I will check that out 👍
@@LittleAussieRockets ☘🌿
Lol, the take apart is painful to watch. They sell those in Africa for $5😂
Wow, that's a good price.
Hope things are going well for you over in New Zealand, not too cold I hope.
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