Yep, he was definitely using glottal compression but it was still 100% chest. Not as easy technique to pull off in low chest voice. It's a technique that is more often used by higher voices to stay chest connected while introducing some grit... like Eli does during a couple of his lines in this cover.
Geoff actually set a personal record with this one with his first F1 in full chest! I love how far all of these guys have come watching Eli come into his gorgeous rock tenor voice has been so fun! Also I don’t care what Geoff says his voice has most definitely deepened in the last couple of years. Great analysis as always I really love watching your giddiness from amazing music it shows your passion and love for the craft!
I have followed VP for several years and my chest voice was always a few semitones deeper than Geoff's... now, it is only 1 semitone deeper than Geoff's. Yeah, his voice has definitely dropped as he is moving further into his 40's.
Whiskey in the Jar is a song about a notorious Irish highwayman Patrick Fleming who was hanged in 1650, has become one of Ireland’s most beloved songs, a true rebel air that stirs the passions. This song has been covered by Thin Lizzi and Metallica and many others. This is so beautiful. When it came out on Patreon, I had to some research on it, but I love how they made it their own and still showed respect for the original.
Thank you for commenting on the "Geoff sound." 2-3 years ago I realized that I can almost always tell whether Geoff or Layne arranged, but no idea how. Have speculated about it, but I don't have any musical training, so I'm never sure how I figure it out. This really helped by giving me something to focus on/listen to and see if that's "it."
I'm the same way with Geoff and Layne. I think it's because Layne always seems to push Geoff's range limits more in his arrangements. Geoff will push his own in a solo, but tones down a bit with the group. Oh, well. It all sounds fantastic. LOL
There are more nuances to the differences in their arrangements than this - but one easy way to tell is that Layne likes to make Geoff hit crazy low notes and Geoff likes to make Layne do bonkers complicated beats. So the ones where one of them really shines are usually arranged by the other.
@@loraleitourtillottwiehr2473 I think you're right, but it's the nuances that stick out to me. There is something different in the way they structure their arrangements and in the way they use harmony. At first I thought it was about the differences in their sense of humor, and that may be what I saw in the beginning. But there is a difference in the sound itself, despite the fact that it always "sounds like VoicePlay." That - as someone with no formal musical language - is most striking to me - the fact that they simultaneously always sound like Voiceplay, and also sound so different from each other.
@@Aurora-cv5to Part of the reason it all "sounds like Voiceplay" is because they've been singing together for 30 years. Their musical tastes and abilities have developed together in that time. They also give each other feedback as part of the arranging process, Geoff talks about it on his channel. Some of the nuances that I notice in their arrangements are; Geoff tweaks the rhythm more by using bell tones/delayed onsets, syncopation, taking one section to half time, and the like. He also plays with juxtaposition a lot - using staccato & legato, contrary motion, harmony & homophony, high & low - he likes to mix it up. Layne tends to play more with silence or negative space in the arrangement and uses tighter harmonies (in general) rather than voices in juxtaposition. I am not a music theory expert and I could be mistaken, but these are my impressions. In case you're interested. Also - Jen focuses on vocal technique here (and is great!) but if you're interested in a reactor who talks more about the arrangement and music theory check out Sir Hairless.
I first heard this from my Irish great-uncle 60 yrs ago. He was trying to get Dad to give him a refill for the whiskey. I thought he was singing to me but I was 12 - what did I know? I've heard it from Peter Paul and Mary, The Clancy Brothers, Tommy Makem, all from way back - someone told me that Roger Whitaker also did it. That I need to find, I've always loved his work. Then of course - Thin Lizzie, Dubliners, Metallica. It dates back to the 1600s so I'm guessing there are tons of variations. Their mini of The Time Warp Again w/ Ashley Diane is definitely worth a look if not a reaction.
You made this so enjoyable! Now I'll go and listen to them on their channel with a new ear. You have shown me HOW to listen and now I have a deeper appreciation for acapella! Love ya!
And Jen's heard the Metallica version, which is basically a cover of the Thin Lizzy version (more so than just another version of an old folk song). Then of course VP adds something to it, even if it is based mostly on the modern rock versions.
I appreciate your additional information - it adds much to our understanding. They seem to always have so much enjoyment when they produce songs, even though we know it takes so much work and talent behind the scenes.
I saw the picture, heard the first hatmonies and instantly New, this was a geoff arrangement 🥰 F1 in CHEST. Jeezzz... and omar? I don't think, I have to say it.
Thank you for this, Jen! This version has grown on me a lot! I liked it from the beginning, I love it now! I think the word ”interpret” may have been a good choice of word too? VoicePlay’s ”Creep” is an example for me, as is their ”Nothing else matters”. I interpret them differently than the originals. VoicePlay’s Creep for example has a much more introspective feeling and mening to it for me. Of course the video has that effect, but it’s the arrangement and way of singing too. Loved this reaction and analysis, as always!
I first heard this song from the limelighters back in the American folk revival in the 69's and that a much more up-tempo version, but this is a very well done cover of an old folk song !!!!!
This is a traditional fifteenth century Irish folksong about a highway man, Patrick Fleming, robbing a military officer and being betrayed by the woman he loves, ending up in jail. The "musha" word is the actually the Irish word "muise" and is an exclamation of "well" or "indeed," and is followed by the Irish equivalent of scat singing - it's all nonsense verbiage. "Whack for my daddy-o" would be said while holding up the jar of whiskey, essentially saying "Here's a shot for me" Then there's Geoff's fantastic ,gravelly F1 chest - a new low for him (so far), and Eli's great D5s! Love it all! If you're interested in the traditional tempo for this song, check out this video of Merry Mischief at the Sterling Renaissance Festival (please ignore the somewhat off singing of the person filming the video) ruclips.net/video/nR-9buZLNJ8/видео.html
Jennifer! Plugging along. I'm not familiar with this song but I'm sure Voiceplay will do wonders with it. Maybe I need to go see the Metallica version, though looking through the comments this song has been done by a LOT of people/groups. Peter, Paul, and Mary? 😲 I had to go listen ... very different. Anyway, interesting song. Some definite low notes in this Geoff arrangement no? Great reaction and analysis as always Jen. 😊
This is the first time I've ever not been able to listen to a Voiceplay cover more than twice. They've taken a rousing outlaw ballad and turned it into pop pap. Listen to Colm McGuinness for the way it should be sung.
And congratulations to the new Daddy-O, Eli! ❤️🎶
Geoff’s chest F1 is now his new lowest recorded chest note! It has that gravely quality because he really has to compress the sound.
Yep, he was definitely using glottal compression but it was still 100% chest. Not as easy technique to pull off in low chest voice. It's a technique that is more often used by higher voices to stay chest connected while introducing some grit... like Eli does during a couple of his lines in this cover.
Geoff actually set a personal record with this one with his first F1 in full chest! I love how far all of these guys have come watching Eli come into his gorgeous rock tenor voice has been so fun! Also I don’t care what Geoff says his voice has most definitely deepened in the last couple of years. Great analysis as always I really love watching your giddiness from amazing music it shows your passion and love for the craft!
I have followed VP for several years and my chest voice was always a few semitones deeper than Geoff's... now, it is only 1 semitone deeper than Geoff's. Yeah, his voice has definitely dropped as he is moving further into his 40's.
Whiskey in the Jar is a song about a notorious Irish highwayman Patrick Fleming who was hanged in 1650, has become one of Ireland’s most beloved songs, a true rebel air that stirs the passions. This song has been covered by Thin Lizzi and Metallica and many others. This is so beautiful. When it came out on Patreon, I had to some research on it, but I love how they made it their own and still showed respect for the original.
Thank you for commenting on the "Geoff sound." 2-3 years ago I realized that I can almost always tell whether Geoff or Layne arranged, but no idea how. Have speculated about it, but I don't have any musical training, so I'm never sure how I figure it out. This really helped by giving me something to focus on/listen to and see if that's "it."
Oh thank you!
I'm the same way with Geoff and Layne. I think it's because Layne always seems to push Geoff's range limits more in his arrangements. Geoff will push his own in a solo, but tones down a bit with the group. Oh, well. It all sounds fantastic. LOL
There are more nuances to the differences in their arrangements than this - but one easy way to tell is that Layne likes to make Geoff hit crazy low notes and Geoff likes to make Layne do bonkers complicated beats. So the ones where one of them really shines are usually arranged by the other.
@@loraleitourtillottwiehr2473 I think you're right, but it's the nuances that stick out to me. There is something different in the way they structure their arrangements and in the way they use harmony. At first I thought it was about the differences in their sense of humor, and that may be what I saw in the beginning. But there is a difference in the sound itself, despite the fact that it always "sounds like VoicePlay." That - as someone with no formal musical language - is most striking to me - the fact that they simultaneously always sound like Voiceplay, and also sound so different from each other.
@@Aurora-cv5to Part of the reason it all "sounds like Voiceplay" is because they've been singing together for 30 years. Their musical tastes and abilities have developed together in that time. They also give each other feedback as part of the arranging process, Geoff talks about it on his channel.
Some of the nuances that I notice in their arrangements are; Geoff tweaks the rhythm more by using bell tones/delayed onsets, syncopation, taking one section to half time, and the like. He also plays with juxtaposition a lot - using staccato & legato, contrary motion, harmony & homophony, high & low - he likes to mix it up. Layne tends to play more with silence or negative space in the arrangement and uses tighter harmonies (in general) rather than voices in juxtaposition.
I am not a music theory expert and I could be mistaken, but these are my impressions. In case you're interested. Also - Jen focuses on vocal technique here (and is great!) but if you're interested in a reactor who talks more about the arrangement and music theory check out Sir Hairless.
Doing a sound because it's more more fun than being a "technique". That's one of many things I love about these folks.
So glad you reviewed this one! As always, you have so many insights that really enrich listening to the song afterwards.
I first heard this from my Irish great-uncle 60 yrs ago. He was trying to get Dad to give him a refill for the whiskey. I thought he was singing to me but I was 12 - what did I know? I've heard it from Peter Paul and Mary, The Clancy Brothers, Tommy Makem, all from way back - someone told me that Roger Whitaker also did it. That I need to find, I've always loved his work. Then of course - Thin Lizzie, Dubliners, Metallica. It dates back to the 1600s so I'm guessing there are tons of variations. Their mini of The Time Warp Again w/ Ashley Diane is definitely worth a look if not a reaction.
You made this so enjoyable! Now I'll go and listen to them on their channel with a new ear. You have shown me HOW to listen and now I have a deeper appreciation for acapella! Love ya!
Oh yay! Thank you😁
This to me was a riff-off between Eli and Omar and the winner....was us. :)
Please do their Loop-video of Choose you fighter next 😊
I really like when Omar joins them. Love his voice with the others.
Not a song I usually enjoy, but, gosh, the guys sound so effortless on it. Omar is fire.
I wonder if the held N is because it's more speech-like, bringing out the storytelling aspect of the lyrics.
Oh you do make me smile Jen 😊
I've only ever heard the Thin Lizzy version, but love this version.
And Jen's heard the Metallica version, which is basically a cover of the Thin Lizzy version (more so than just another version of an old folk song). Then of course VP adds something to it, even if it is based mostly on the modern rock versions.
I appreciate your additional information - it adds much to our understanding. They seem to always have so much enjoyment when they produce songs, even though we know it takes so much work and talent behind the scenes.
I saw the picture, heard the first hatmonies and instantly New, this was a geoff arrangement 🥰 F1 in CHEST. Jeezzz... and omar? I don't think, I have to say it.
Been waiting for this one
This is one of the best song that I ever heard moment, keep it up Jennifer Glazhofer.
Thank you for this, Jen! This version has grown on me a lot! I liked it from the beginning, I love it now!
I think the word ”interpret” may have been a good choice of word too? VoicePlay’s ”Creep” is an example for me, as is their ”Nothing else matters”. I interpret them differently than the originals. VoicePlay’s Creep for example has a much more introspective feeling and mening to it for me. Of course the video has that effect, but it’s the arrangement and way of singing too.
Loved this reaction and analysis, as always!
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I first heard this song from the limelighters back in the American folk revival in the 69's and that a much more up-tempo version, but this is a very well done cover of an old folk song !!!!!
Missed the premiere!! 😩 Brilliant stuff as usual. You always manage to find something that I've never noticed before 😁
Ooh yay! Thank you😁
Hi Jennifer hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
This is a traditional fifteenth century Irish folksong about a highway man, Patrick Fleming, robbing a military officer and being betrayed by the woman he loves, ending up in jail.
The "musha" word is the actually the Irish word "muise" and is an exclamation of "well" or "indeed," and is followed by the Irish equivalent of scat singing - it's all nonsense verbiage. "Whack for my daddy-o" would be said while holding up the jar of whiskey, essentially saying "Here's a shot for me"
Then there's Geoff's fantastic ,gravelly F1 chest - a new low for him (so far), and Eli's great D5s! Love it all!
If you're interested in the traditional tempo for this song, check out this video of Merry Mischief at the Sterling Renaissance Festival (please ignore the somewhat off singing of the person filming the video) ruclips.net/video/nR-9buZLNJ8/видео.html
I first heard this from Celtic Thunder. This took a couple of hearings but, it is my fav now.
This is an old Irish folk song from the 1600s. First sung by The Dubliners. And then covered by many other artists.
Hoping you do a reaction on Voiceplay's recent "Loop" series 1 & 2 how they arrange songs.
I'm more familiar with Thin Lizzies version which I think this is closer to and I love it ❤
Entertaining reaction! You catch things that enhance my listening. ❤️🤗
Thank you!
As always a pleasure to partake of your analysis. 😊
I recall the Peter Paul and Mary version, but I like this too.
oh hey, new walls! new place outright, or didja just redo the existing one? either way, looks nice!
Jennifer! Plugging along. I'm not familiar with this song but I'm sure Voiceplay will do wonders with it. Maybe I need to go see the Metallica version, though looking through the comments this song has been done by a LOT of people/groups. Peter, Paul, and Mary? 😲 I had to go listen ... very different. Anyway, interesting song. Some definite low notes in this Geoff arrangement no? Great reaction and analysis as always Jen. 😊
Haha yes! Many versions. Thank you😁
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Phantom of the Opera anyone?
Poor Jen... she isnt englishing very well today😂
This is the first time I've ever not been able to listen to a Voiceplay cover more than twice. They've taken a rousing outlaw ballad and turned it into pop pap.
Listen to Colm McGuinness for the way it should be sung.