What the hell is Cosmos talking about lmao WTT grand finals was just Spargo dumpstering light the whole time. The top 5 sets were fire at this tournament
Bruh, Light losing to Gluto from a single missed tech chase after beating both Sparg0 AND Tweek gave me a stomachache. Happy Thanksgiving to Lights Out!
Miya and MKLeo are definitely his biggest reverse 3-0 demons. Well Leo hasn't done it lately but the amount of times he did it to Tweek was depressing (it was like 4 or 5 times)
The stage selection for Light should be a revelation, the active camping in comparison to Sonix Sonic truly amplifies Fox's abilities. As long as he selects a big stage he should have no problem against Spargos Cloud, in fact? Expect a character switch from him in the future. Very interesting
It's ironic because there was a period of time where Light was beating Sparg0 on smattlefield quite consistently. He would smother him with speed and I thought "maybe T&C would be good for Sparg0" so that he would have more room to camp. Now it's the other way around lol. Partially because Sparg0 adapted heavy and also partially because Light is more willing to camp now.
Cosmos at 3:20 speaking the truth. Sakurai can make a casual game but he can't balance craaaap sometimes. Makes Steve and Aegis yet makes Ike trash. Parry system is also surprisingly lackluster.
Fun fact about Sakurai game design: in both Kirby Air Ride and Steve's up B you can exploit the physics of gliding to essentially moon jump much higher than intended
@@jenkins7721 like I like Light when hes on Nairos stream but everytime after every match hes always got an excuse can never give credit when its due at least not in that moment but later a week later zzzz
I think Kola is faster than Sparg0. Sparg0 won't use Cloud against him and even against Aegis his gameplay isn't necessarily "faster". That speaks to Kola's rapid decision making + pressure. Honestly most top players in NA particularly play extremely fast. Leo does too. Nobody talks about it.
I think what Tweek and Light think about each other is what Miya thinks about Spargo and the world too. Which is why Miya did Tweek the way he did his goal was not Lumirank when entering this tournament his goal was to out place Spargo either by beating him himself or taking advantage of other players defeating him which he accomplished. At the end of the day competition is a selfish endeavor and that’s why it’s exciting when your favorite players win and depressing when your favorite player loses especially by reverse 3-0s.
I noticed EE didn’t mention Sonic amongst the common characters people dislike that he likes 🤔. PERSONALLY I think between Sonic, Steve, G&W, & MinMin that Sonic is the least cringe. Besides that I appreciate getting an episode out despite you guys being under the weather. Loved seeing Light finally get his W over Spargo.
Funny how people think game and watch is lame but if they were to make waluigi a character and give him all of game and watches moves people would think he’s cool
@@FlappyCat-ef6oq people literally don't hate mario when his entire game plan is trying to cheese you 24/7; people also don't even hate luigi nearly as much as they should.
I’m surprised seeing Raru win it was a surprise and all he needed was Miyas absence he kinda crushed it he did not just win he won it in dominant fashion only Doramigi was a real challenge to him. their set count in the second set in grands was the same as Glutonys set with Miya which is interesting to note. I thought Rarus win was more impressive cause it did not rely as much on luck as Miyas did. Again no shade to Miya but a lot of things worked out for him.
but his bracket path was good I praise Miya for taking advantage of the opportunity’s he was given and that’s why he’s one of my favorite players of Japan.
I don’t think it’s bad game design because if a characters strongest move can just get parried and then get punished as if it’s any other attack would be actual bad game design because those attacks aren’t just thrown out every couple seconds like most others, therefor should have some sort of “priority” and even then it basically just resets neutral. Parrying isn’t too hard on this game to deserve that type of payout, mind you there isn’t many attacks that leave you in the parry animation for this long
It’s bad in that it’s not implemented consistently. With a game containing 89 characters, core game mechanics should be as consistent as possible. Parrying is not that easy and contains some risk. If parrying waft is unfair, then waft needs to be tweaked. Making the parry not work on waft specifically is unintuitive and bad game design. For example, shields you know take damage and can break. There are strong moves, that if charged up, can break shield. This follows an easy logic to understand across the cast. Parrying is a toss up.
I think Smash Ultimate is without question one of the best balanced fighting games ever made. So i get asking for more testing but with far fewer characters, Capcom, Namco, SNK and other platform fighters rarely ever show balance anywhere near Smash Ultimate.
I love that you guys get sponsorships like you do but I’m especially glad you didn’t have prizepicks again, it sucks everytime seeing you guys promote gambling like that
I would argue landing a waft is more skillful than parrying a waft . You get to use it one time every few minutes it deserves its knock back on shield or w.e.
@@WhatIsTheMeta 2 P tier wins 2 A tier wins, and only one placement out of top 8 this season. He has not lost to cosmos or sonix this season either. He is 2-1 with light and light beat him at an a tier. The events he lost to Leo he got first and second he def ranked 1.
@@HamzaKhan-mk5lb Oh yeah I had forgotten it's split up into seasons instead of the year. I guess we'll see. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to be #1, all of your results are 1st, no worse than 2nd. Take me back to peak Leo and Zero days - those are true #1s.
Gluto's waft knocked out Light so hard he couldn't attend his own show.
What the hell is Cosmos talking about lmao WTT grand finals was just Spargo dumpstering light the whole time. The top 5 sets were fire at this tournament
He has very high standards lmao
Bruh, Light losing to Gluto from a single missed tech chase after beating both Sparg0 AND Tweek gave me a stomachache. Happy Thanksgiving to Lights Out!
Tweek didn‘t just get reverse 3:0‘d he got reverse 3:0‘d again. Same shit happened at Cirque 4
Miya and MKLeo are definitely his biggest reverse 3-0 demons. Well Leo hasn't done it lately but the amount of times he did it to Tweek was depressing (it was like 4 or 5 times)
He got reverse 3-0'd and reverse 3 stocked on last game. It's a lot of reversals.
@@gerardoortega323i don’t think you can even include leo anymore. that was like 4 years ago
The stage selection for Light should be a revelation, the active camping in comparison to Sonix Sonic truly amplifies Fox's abilities. As long as he selects a big stage he should have no problem against Spargos Cloud, in fact? Expect a character switch from him in the future. Very interesting
Chill, if Sparg0 decides to learn Roy/Fox Light isn't taking a game for another year
@lokks2130 you're a jim lol
Gluttos role in these tournaments is to win vs Fox and lose vs GnW
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You guys do a phenomenal job and always keep the podcast entertaining! Keep up the fantastic work, gentlemen 🤙
Thanks so much!
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Overrated album tbh
@@EEvisuthank you bro… the dixk eating is crazy
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Over rated artist ! Baby momma behavior
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@@BosserJCSSBU thanks buddy, much appreciated!
Gluto is a fundies master unlike any of us have ever seen. Top 5 best player in Ultimate History to me.
He finally said Akakikusu correctly im so happy mah
He forgot to say it wrong he’s a grifter
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@@Kai-lp5ejyou’re a yappin Jim
It's ironic because there was a period of time where Light was beating Sparg0 on smattlefield quite consistently. He would smother him with speed and I thought "maybe T&C would be good for Sparg0" so that he would have more room to camp. Now it's the other way around lol. Partially because Sparg0 adapted heavy and also partially because Light is more willing to camp now.
Light parrying waft was actually insane!
game 4 of winners finals at umebura 10 acola parried a last stock waft and actually won the game lol
miya is hype, idc what cosmos is yapping about
I don’t mind G&W
Thankful for the banger pod and the great smash we have had lately 🙏
Cosmos at 3:20 speaking the truth. Sakurai can make a casual game but he can't balance craaaap sometimes. Makes Steve and Aegis yet makes Ike trash. Parry system is also surprisingly lackluster.
Fun fact about Sakurai game design: in both Kirby Air Ride and Steve's up B you can exploit the physics of gliding to essentially moon jump much higher than intended
Keep the big boss segment going 😂
Man, I wanted Cosmos to reach to Marss saying Sparg0 pulled a Cosmos lol
Like someone said, Spargo, was checked out and you could tell, the man was tired. Gunna have to do it at least one more time.
They say this everytime he losses.
Honestly bro, he’s not my fav. I’m more of Leo guy like EE. But just look at the man’s face.
Get well soon guys! Hoping for more peak lights out content!
Leo finally broke the Gluto curse but that curse has been passed to Light lowkey
Can't remember the last time Light beat Gluto
I think the last time was Ultimate Summit 5 back in September of 2022
love this show, hope yall have a wonderful thanksgiving 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you! You too!
14:12 great analysis on Light & Tweej rivalry
im pretty sure spargo was mentally checked out after the Glutto set so Light is going to have to win when it counts
Smh, tryna discredit my boy is crazy
@EEvisu your boy is always discrediting his opponents always johning what are we talking about here rofl
@@christophermauro-barias7451Facts Light has more excuses when he loses than any top player ever
@@jenkins7721 like I like Light when hes on Nairos stream but everytime after every match hes always got an excuse can never give credit when its due at least not in that moment but later a week later zzzz
I’m no Light fan but that’s a pretty piss poor excuse. A win’s a win; it’s not Light’s problem that Sparg0 was “mentally checked out”
I am here to say Light got robbed and I was foaming at the mouth that game 5 ending.. but whatever, everyone got GLutto that day
39:52 dude i was trippin when i heard this, it sounds like the audio was being reversed lol
Whoops lmao
Is the audio super messed up or is it just me?
Idk maybe we just sound weird cause we sick?
@@EEvisutwo instances are at around 2:30 and 5:20. They are just hiccups. Most of the audio is fine.
I think Kola is faster than Sparg0. Sparg0 won't use Cloud against him and even against Aegis his gameplay isn't necessarily "faster". That speaks to Kola's rapid decision making + pressure.
Honestly most top players in NA particularly play extremely fast. Leo does too. Nobody talks about it.
Marss leaked who the dude that lost 700$ was. It being Tweek of all people surprised the hell out of me. I guess Tweek hates doubles for a reason.
Was Cilvanis and Light kicked off the pod?
Light will be back next week podcast episode, Cilvanis is going through some personal stuff.
I think what Tweek and Light think about each other is what Miya thinks about Spargo and the world too. Which is why Miya did Tweek the way he did his goal was not Lumirank when entering this tournament his goal was to out place Spargo either by beating him himself or taking advantage of other players defeating him which he accomplished. At the end of the day competition is a selfish endeavor and that’s why it’s exciting when your favorite players win and depressing when your favorite player loses especially by reverse 3-0s.
I noticed EE didn’t mention Sonic amongst the common characters people dislike that he likes 🤔. PERSONALLY I think between Sonic, Steve, G&W, & MinMin that Sonic is the least cringe. Besides that I appreciate getting an episode out despite you guys being under the weather. Loved seeing Light finally get his W over Spargo.
Funny how people think game and watch is lame but if they were to make waluigi a character and give him all of game and watches moves people would think he’s cool
Nah people would get tired of that shit really fast
@@FlappyCat-ef6oq😂😂
@@FlappyCat-ef6oq people literally don't hate mario when his entire game plan is trying to cheese you 24/7; people also don't even hate luigi nearly as much as they should.
@@riverriverchannel Marios is way less annoying to deal with. Luigi can be annoying yeah but not as many people are as good with luigi.
@@FlappyCat-ef6oq raru is top 5 with luigi and there are plenty more + if he wasn't luigi people would hate him as much if not more than kazuya.
wouldnt light still hit the up air if he just double jumped?
And now we will never know
I’m surprised seeing Raru win it was a surprise and all he needed was Miyas absence he kinda crushed it he did not just win he won it in dominant fashion only Doramigi was a real challenge to him. their set count in the second set in grands was the same as Glutonys set with Miya which is interesting to note. I thought Rarus win was more impressive cause it did not rely as much on luck as Miyas did. Again no shade to Miya but a lot of things worked out for him.
Miya could've beat anybody in the bracket he was given tho. Not right to call it "luck" especially after the g5 comeback on Tweek.
but his bracket path was good I praise Miya for taking advantage of the opportunity’s he was given and that’s why he’s one of my favorite players of Japan.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Cosmos waffling
Lmao
7:33 Did cosmos just call Tweek’s campy ass hype to watch
He is hype to watch, just cause he doesn’t constantly hold forward at all times doesn’t make him lame you bot
Tweek do be lame.
Tweek camps with style
Dude a new Premier is coming out in Japan late next month... its over if Miya wins that one
I think that’s after the rankings season is over
@ I hope you’re right EE I’m stressing because Japan is lucky that they have so many tournaments and we in NA we don’t… thanks for Throne 2 btw
why was this event so poorly advertised?
Good question, I noticed that too
Hey man, I do Throne marketing, idk bout anything else haha
The real reason is that Ludwig doesn’t like Smash Ultimate and it was only a B+ tier so low stakes ranking wise
Ryouh could've gotten at least third imo. I don't understand how he lost the runback to doramigi after 3-0ing him in winners.
How did Raru beat Doramigi... that match up sounds horrible
Patience
Min Min for sure wins but Luigi doesn’t care about matchups sometimes. Especially one as fine as Raru’s
I don’t think it’s bad game design because if a characters strongest move can just get parried and then get punished as if it’s any other attack would be actual bad game design because those attacks aren’t just thrown out every couple seconds like most others, therefor should have some sort of “priority” and even then it basically just resets neutral.
Parrying isn’t too hard on this game to deserve that type of payout, mind you there isn’t many attacks that leave you in the parry animation for this long
Interesting point!
It’s bad in that it’s not implemented consistently. With a game containing 89 characters, core game mechanics should be as consistent as possible. Parrying is not that easy and contains some risk. If parrying waft is unfair, then waft needs to be tweaked. Making the parry not work on waft specifically is unintuitive and bad game design.
For example, shields you know take damage and can break. There are strong moves, that if charged up, can break shield. This follows an easy logic to understand across the cast. Parrying is a toss up.
I think Smash Ultimate is without question one of the best balanced fighting games ever made.
So i get asking for more testing but with far fewer characters, Capcom, Namco, SNK and other platform fighters rarely ever show balance anywhere near Smash Ultimate.
love this episode but i cant tolerate the kawhi disrespect 😭everyday it gets harder being a kawhi fan
Sorry bro, my hate burns bright, didn’t show up in the playoffs when Russ was on the team, kept tapping out smh
Gluto really out here just wasting everyone's time
Woot
COSMOOOOOOOOOO
I thought for sure this weeks headline would be: “Miya is indisputable # 1”
NAvengers did nothing this week. Gluto and miya showed out.
True
I love that you guys get sponsorships like you do but I’m especially glad you didn’t have prizepicks again, it sucks everytime seeing you guys promote gambling like that
Why? We all gamble bro lol
@@EEvisuGambling addiction has the highest suicide rates out of ANY addiction. But get your bread up king 🙏
@@EEvisu a lot of people do a lot of dumb shit that doesn’t mean it should be encouraged
@@gokiesbx857 self control is free
you guys voices kinda sound like ai
Yes, we are a little under the weather lol
I would argue landing a waft is more skillful than parrying a waft . You get to use it one time every few minutes it deserves its knock back on shield or w.e.
Nah lmao
Listen. Spargo can't be #1. Not with his direct losses and eliminations by and their records.
???
@EEvisu Light, Cosmos, Leo, Sonix, etc etc
@@WhatIsTheMeta 2 P tier wins 2 A tier wins, and only one placement out of top 8 this season. He has not lost to cosmos or sonix this season either. He is 2-1 with light and light beat him at an a tier. The events he lost to Leo he got first and second he def ranked 1.
@@HamzaKhan-mk5lb Oh yeah I had forgotten it's split up into seasons instead of the year. I guess we'll see. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to be #1, all of your results are 1st, no worse than 2nd. Take me back to peak Leo and Zero days - those are true #1s.
@@WhatIsTheMeta That's not how being number one works. If your overall consistent results are better than the others you'll be the best.
Why is Cosmos so butthurt and bias?
I miss when this pod was a trio.
It still is, it was either two man it or skip a week, ungrateful Jim
@@EEvisu you know what you did in 2009
Whole squad is sick but you're still pulling up, respect 🫡 (except Light)
Light traveled across country so he definitely got it the worst lol
🤣 at the kawhi leonard joke