Deep, Fat Sounds from Small Toms | Season 2, Episode 17

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @SoundsLikeADrum
    @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +37

    Stay tuned for some big news coming later this week! In the meantime, happy tuning!

    • @atoms12123
      @atoms12123 5 лет назад +2

      The SLAD branded beachwear is finally here for the summer?!?

    • @offbeatdrumcompany2568
      @offbeatdrumcompany2568 5 лет назад +2

      I hope it's Sounds Like a Mute!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +5

      Oh man, we really do need some beach gear, don't we?

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 4 года назад

      Wood grain has a lot to do with sound ,one could have two 12 in toms with the same skins and the same brand but with the wood grain put together in a different pattern on one of them and either it will be deeper or higher because of the difference.

  • @Rockin_Ross
    @Rockin_Ross Год назад +8

    Thank you for this. I know it was 4 years ago, but the info doesn’t expire. I have a “small footprint” kit that I use for smaller stage gigs that’s 20/10/13 and these tips will help me get the sound I’m asked for. 😎

  • @fede170493
    @fede170493 5 лет назад +32

    For the love of God! I've been weeks with the idea of changing my set but for issues of money and place, I was analyzing buying a smaller set. I did not do it because I was afraid that small measures do not give me that fat and deep sound that I like so much, and just when I'm about to give up, you appear with this incredible video.
    They deserve those 28 thousand subscribers and 28 thousand more for their incredible videos.
    I love you, boys. You are the best.
    Greetings from Argentina.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +3

      Such excellent timing! Glad you're enjoying the series. Cheers! -Ben

  • @Melvin7727
    @Melvin7727 3 года назад +11

    I feel like this whole video was preamble, clarification, referencing other videos and other topics, and then some playing of the toms. Where's the part where you offer tips on how to actually do it?

  • @ryanwilson5782
    @ryanwilson5782 5 лет назад +47

    I'd love to see an episode on bearing edges and shell ply composition

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +16

      Thanks for the request! We've got an entire series of comparison videos in the works that will include bearing edges, shell material, hoops, heads, etc. Cheers! -Ben

    • @jakegreene4313
      @jakegreene4313 5 лет назад +2

      That sounds delicious 👍

    • @eddypalogrande
      @eddypalogrande 5 лет назад +1

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Awesome! Also wondered if rerouting the bearing edge be a viable solution to get better tone from a cheaper kit whose heads sit uneven?

    • @jonathanbormann5077
      @jonathanbormann5077 5 лет назад +2

      @@eddypalogrande yes it can. I just hand sanded mine back to life on my 15yr old PDP FS Series kit. Found some pretty knarly damage I didn't realize was there.

    • @ryanwilson5782
      @ryanwilson5782 5 лет назад

      Sounds Like A Drum ♥️ I'm excited!

  • @trevorbarras5298
    @trevorbarras5298 5 лет назад +21

    Really useful info here, I have a micro kit so can really relate to this episode. Keep up the good work guys.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +2

      Oh excellent! That's great to hear. Thanks for the support! -Ben

  • @tuulofdstrxn
    @tuulofdstrxn 5 лет назад +5

    Really cool info, and good point about the hoops. Triple flanged hoops come in a bunch of different flavors too, and I think the thinner the material the better off you are in low tunings, since the flex in the hoop keeps some tension on the rods and sort of keeps them from detuning very much. I had an Export kit way back with 10/12/14 toms with 1,6mm triple flanged hoops, and using thick double-ply heads let me tune them to sound more like a 12/14/16 setup. While I've enjoyed the precision of thicker, more rigid hoops since, I can't seem to get as low as I could on those drums.

  • @cor3ylee
    @cor3ylee 5 лет назад +2

    Great info as usual dudes, keep it coming!

  • @nickferrence8593
    @nickferrence8593 5 лет назад +1

    Another wonderfully insightful video. Thanks so much guys

  • @littledrummerboyph
    @littledrummerboyph 5 лет назад +3

    I just finished reworking my childhood drumset for my son, and took a fairly similar approach. Even though the toms are 8,10 and 13, I didn't necessarily want it to sound like a kid's set, so they're low and full (but not so low he'll put dents in the heads anytime soon, heh). Definitely sounds better than it ever did when I was a kid playing them!

  • @atomcatz69
    @atomcatz69 4 года назад +2

    Saw this on a suggestion pop up good stuff! I do this with small drums.

  • @ljdunsmore1
    @ljdunsmore1 4 года назад +2

    I've usually always tuned my toms on the lower end and eventually started going to smaller and smaller kits. I love my Ludwig Questlove kit! 10 13 16 A very similar approach to tuning. As low as it can go but it still has fantastic punch when mic'd up! Only problem I have are lugs backing out as the night goes on... There's plenty of methods to fix this I know.. but I don't want to use locktight on my lugs..
    Love this channel guys, y'all really know what you're talking about when it comes to the one and outs of drums.

  • @lightfootmusick
    @lightfootmusick 5 лет назад +3

    I love this sound. I tune just like this on my Pearl Roadshow Jazz kit. Using Remo pinstripe 2 ply even on the bass drum, no muffling. I love a 10 inch snare drum too, but tuned very high. good advice here bros.

  • @00Ryder
    @00Ryder 4 года назад +2

    I've always had fusion size toms with a 22 bass and tuned them as low as I could. I found it to be the best way to get a really low and fat sound without any horrible overtones or vibrations. It always felt like I was doing something "wrong" even though people and other drummers would comment on how good my kit sounded.
    I think sometimes you just need to trust your ears. I've never used gadgets for tuning or even looked too much into methods or techniques. Just trust your ears.

  • @Underdog_Drums
    @Underdog_Drums 5 лет назад +4

    Dam, I finally watched one of your (this) vid with headphones. Wow, during the intro, those drums were perfectly tuned. Thanks to watching your vids, I decided to tune my bass way up (reso, and batter) I got the coolest electronic/hip hop sound.

  • @marcus_mayhem
    @marcus_mayhem 4 года назад

    What a beautiful kit. Thanks so much for the vid. Love your content.

  • @sammcob
    @sammcob 5 лет назад +1

    Okay, but that groove at 3 minutes 48 is absolute fire 🔥

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      Thanks so much! Fun to jam a bit and be inspired by the sound of the drums. Cheers! -Ben

  • @dalekay9ine
    @dalekay9ine Год назад

    Is this guy still a part of the channel? I've never seen him, he's really good as well! Thanks for all the content guys!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Год назад

      Hey there! Yep- I produce all of the episodes (pre-production, filming/recording, mixing & editing) and manage our online presence. Cheers! -Ben

  • @wolfgangjohnnywinter.9386
    @wolfgangjohnnywinter.9386 4 года назад +2

    Also I appreciate your video on 2-ply Evans oil-filled skins there's a bunch of us here like 12 of us and we all started laughing when you grab the cardboard box you said this sounds like a cardboard box thank you for that we all appreciate it thanks.. cuz we all know that those Evans two-ply mylar do not sound like a box they sound killer I love that deep sound because of you I went bought them so thanks appreciate it

  • @theflint7692
    @theflint7692 2 года назад

    I'm getting huge tone out of a cheap 10x7 tom, using an Ambassador X batter--one ply of 12 mil. Resonant enough to open up, but with enough mass to tune to a lower fundamental. No muffling, getting a legitimate BOOM. The only thing that chokes it is dead-sticking. The "floor" tom is a 12x11 power tom with coated Emperor top and bottom.

  • @TomBelknapRoc
    @TomBelknapRoc 5 лет назад +6

    If you haven't done so already, I'd love to see a video that explores the dimensions of the drum and how they affect tuning. In particular, I found the comment about "square drums" interesting?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +3

      That's definitely something we want to dive into with a bit more of a scientific approach. It's on our radar! Thanks so much. -Ben

  • @MeTuLHeD
    @MeTuLHeD 5 лет назад +2

    Masters Customs have such great tuning range.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      We've gotta get some triple flange hoops for them and expand the range even more!

  • @chad-tacular
    @chad-tacular 5 лет назад

    This concept is crazy! I liked it! 👍

  • @jakegreene4313
    @jakegreene4313 5 лет назад +3

    man, that snare SPEAKS.

    • @Jaldagar666
      @Jaldagar666 3 месяца назад

      What is this snare?!

  • @garysmith3173
    @garysmith3173 5 лет назад

    As always,an excellent video.

  • @BrianTCarter
    @BrianTCarter 4 года назад

    I’ve got a Sonor Safari kit with a 10x8 up and a 14x12 down. I tune my 14” to an E, really low as described in this video and my 10” to an E an octave higher. I like to have the big pitch spread with only two drums.

  • @andreasbreitwieser1449
    @andreasbreitwieser1449 5 лет назад

    it's so funny that the explanation about how to tune small drums so deep happened the first time (I remember) at the end of the 1970's and brought Steve Gadd to his set up with Yamaha..... and the rest of us during the 80's to use 10, 12, 14 toms for more than a decade............ ;-)

    • @michaelcaplin8969
      @michaelcaplin8969 4 года назад

      I've wondered about the sound of the late 70's, early 80's (before the "Attack Of The Reverb" og "They Came From The Lexicon" or whatever you would call that phenomenon). Whenever I hear people try to emulate that sound today, they never really manage to capture it properly, but at the time, it seemed like every drummer out there knew how to get a fat but not electronic sounding sound. An example would be "Make a little Magic" (Dirt Band) or for higher tunings "Night by Night", (Steely). Is there a secret that all these tutorials miss to get those kind of sounds?

  • @tico117
    @tico117 5 лет назад +3

    What about the opposite? I've been trying to get my 16" floor tom to sound more like a 14" but can't get it right.

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад +2

    I have been waiting for this topic! I am a bit disappointed you didn´t experiment on an 8 inches tom though.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +2

      We don't have access to any functional 8" toms but the same principles apply. This isn't just for 10" and 12" toms. Cheers! -Ben

    • @Eurodrummer666
      @Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад +1

      @@SoundsLikeADrum it reminds me that before purchasing my latest kit which includes a 8 inches, most of the people told me about this specific size that it wasn't a real tom, that it loses tuning quickly, it doesn't project at all, it is more an effect drum... I didn't listen, bought it and I'm perfectly happy because it is a genuine tom.

    • @acidrain812
      @acidrain812 5 лет назад +1

      Eurodrummer666 dude my 8” tom rings twice as long at my 10” lol, either that 8 tunes well or my 10 is finicky

    • @Eurodrummer666
      @Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад +1

      @@acidrain812 I am luckier than you then, as my 8 rings just as much as my 10.

    • @acidrain812
      @acidrain812 5 лет назад

      Eurodrummer666 definitely lucky lol

  • @6StringsOfSalvation
    @6StringsOfSalvation 3 года назад

    After watching this video seems to me your definitely one to ask this of. I am running a 12" 13" and 16" floor tom Evans 360 heads. Problem I am having is deciding whether to take the "old" reso heads off altogether to tune them I can t afford to replace the reso heads right now but need to tune them. The shells are 9 layer force 2007 Birch Sonor the kick drum had a Aquarian regulator reso with muffle ring on the front which so far just seems to make it all the more difficult to tune the Evans 360 heads on the toms are relatively new but off if another kit unused and needed them more on the Sonor shells Sonor kit sat unplayed for a long time with the stock heads not changed other than the reso head. I will eventually swap it for a new regulator or EQ3 head for it is definitely got age on it. So far sounds ok the batter head is a Power Stroke 3 also was brand new on the other kit borrowed for this one. When I get tom mounts for the other kit I'll likely ask you the same on that kit unless you want to advise me now. Same size bass drum and toms 22" kick 12" tom 13"tom floor 16" tom it's a Ludwig Chinese made Ludwig to be exact in a Rocker series best I can tell a 90's kit not sure of year difficult to date with the China made Rocker Series any hp.deepmy appreciated bass drum is done on the Sonor but just to an extent so please opinions remove resos don't tune reso first last high low etc is play everything from jazz blues to Rick and 80's style heavy metal and alternative I am wide range artist thank you and awesome video

  • @PunchySugar
    @PunchySugar 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, really shows how much versatility you can get out of any drum set.
    On a somewhat related note: I have definitely experienced that dreaded square drum basketball ping you speak of. Do you have any tips on working around the ping? Do you know why the ping occurs in the first place? If it's inherently a square drum thing, then why do they make square drums?

  • @zyxwfish
    @zyxwfish 3 года назад +1

    I’ve found this video again. I have small toms and want get them dialed in low.

  • @pat7989
    @pat7989 4 года назад +1

    Good stuff!

  • @simonvasey8546
    @simonvasey8546 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you. I have an 8" tom still in its wrapper. I think I'll use it as a plant pot.

  • @huethermusic
    @huethermusic 5 лет назад +1

    Great episod. I experimented with that topic in the past. I switcht back to higher tuning because i need the projection ( no close mics). Im very intersted in an episod about the fight with the square sie Standtom and maybe the old sonor that were deeper than diameter.
    Keep on Sound like a drum 👍👍

  • @44amanaplanacanalpanama44
    @44amanaplanacanalpanama44 3 года назад

    This is an interesting discussion, and very relevant due to manufacturers downsizing the drum sizes for the last 20 years. I have to say that I miss the days of big drums. In particular, I think the 10, 12, 13, 16, 18 tom and floor sizes made for bigger sounds with better intervals. I find that every kit I've had with a 14" floor tom, in particular, tends to fight me when I want to get a lower tuning (which has always been my preference). The 14 in my Pearl Master's Custom kit just never sounded good.

  • @jefflincoln1374
    @jefflincoln1374 4 года назад +1

    I use mesh heads. Would like to see something on that.

  • @JakeStaffin
    @JakeStaffin 4 года назад

    Came to this video from your deep detuned tom sound video. I have a 7 piece Gretsch Catalina Maple and I've been using Coated G2s over Reso 7s for the past 3 years, same head combo on my Yamaha Stage Custom Birch which I keep with me at school. My Gretsch kit is much more of a rock kit (even though the Yamaha is incredibly versatile, I use it primarily for jazz and lighter stuff but it sound great even for harder rock and metal) and I want to take advantage of being stuck at home to finally pick up some new heads and try something new for my drum sound. I'm thinking about Clear EC2s over Clear EC Resonant heads (as you can tell, I'm also a big fan of Evans heads) so I can have some more attack and less sustain coming from the drums, but also tuning them slightly lower than I normally would. The G2 Reso 7 combo works nice for a good all-around sound with good attack, tone and sustain but I don't want to have to tune them so low that I lose the natural sound of the drums and get that too-low growl which makes it sound like the drums are out of tune. I'm hoping to avoid that by switching to these heads as they control unwanted overtones and are recommended for rock. Do you think that I could get a nice medium to low pitch from the EC2 over EC Reso combo without having to detune the drums as much, especially from the smaller rack toms?

  • @bowgart5567
    @bowgart5567 3 года назад

    im hoping to get a john weathers kind of tom tune with that technique

  • @tdrum21
    @tdrum21 5 лет назад +3

    Nice material here, love what Ash Soan is doing.
    Seems like detuning furthest away from you would be good in terms of head life with that tuning, right?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks! Assuming you’re playing in the center of the drum (and not doing rimshots) it really doesn’t matter which one you detune. If you’re doing rimshots, I’d recommend going with the 9 or 3-o’clock lugs. -Ben

  • @xguillotinax
    @xguillotinax 5 лет назад

    Excatly what I'm lookinf for... thank you!!

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 5 лет назад

    +soundslikeadrum *This approach to a deep, fat sound might be what I need* to tame a donated YAMAHA® RY2T4 kit at OMS Japanese Christian Church (Walnut Creek, CA, USA) that overprojects for Shinoda Hall at standard tuning. The missing elements for the tone are the batters, as EVANS® Drumheads Div., J. D'Addario & Co., doesn't manufacture B10HW or B12HW Heavyweight coateds (the B14HW is full-scale), whereas the TT10G14, TT12G14, and TT14G14 clears I've selected for the resonants are all full-scale. (The MSD14AF center drum packs an EVANS®/D'Addario® B14EC1RD batter and S14R30 resonant but needs a GROVER® Stadium Dark™ cable snare.)

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      Definitely try it out and let us know how it works out for you! You don't necessarily need to have specialized drumheads for this. While the Evans Heavyweight is in fact available in a 12" option, it might be overkill for a 12" tom. G2 Coated batters do just fine for this. Cheers! -Ben

  • @howlinwaters
    @howlinwaters 2 года назад

    trying to get a tighter mounted & floor tom sound - they sound too boomy for my taste

  • @rodneylee4026
    @rodneylee4026 4 года назад +1

    I like 12 and 13 toms but shallower. 14 and 16 floor toms.

  • @twistedtonestudio3716
    @twistedtonestudio3716 4 года назад

    I just picked up a gretsch catalina 6 piece. what skins would you recommend for getting a deep fat tone

  • @wolfgangjohnnywinter.9386
    @wolfgangjohnnywinter.9386 4 года назад +1

    I got some PDP Birch drums eunos 4 ply Birch I put some Evans 2-ply mylar no joke I got the red colored film I love them I love the color red they all sound similar they all sound the same really but they sound better than my maple Gretsch anyways that I shared with you thanks good tuning make my little gem sound better thanks

  • @dalestokes2789
    @dalestokes2789 5 лет назад

    love tuning my toms to these depths lol.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      In that case you're not gonna want to miss tomorrow's episode...

  • @krednevalga1686
    @krednevalga1686 5 лет назад

    HEYYYY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BASKETBALL SOUND THO THAT'S MY SOUND

  • @motodrummer
    @motodrummer 5 лет назад

    Just ordered a ludwig classic Maple kit with a 12x9 rack tom,, want to add another rack tom but cannot decide on a 10x8, 10x9, 13x10 or 13x11? Even thinking about a 12x11 to go with the 12x9??

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      What’s the floor tom size?

    • @motodrummer
      @motodrummer 5 лет назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum 16x16 with a 22x16 bass drum

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      @@motodrummer I guess it really depends on which end of the sonic spectrum you want to expand into. As I mentioned here, I would love a 14" floor tom but I'm glad that I've got the 10 and 12" rack toms. I'd probably stay away from 13" diameter (I tend not to like 1" diameter differences in toms) tom and I definitely wouldn't recommend an additional 12", especially at a deeper dimension. I'd recommend playing the kit a bit and thinking about if you want an in between option or a higher options for an additional tom. Cheers! -Ben

    • @motodrummer
      @motodrummer 5 лет назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Thanks man, most 13x9's are ok but dont blwo me away. leaning towards a 10" now but wondering how a 10x9 would sound compared to a 10x8 hell even a 10 x 7.5 which they offer. white glass is a Limited till they run out color so have a window to order it. I will decide soon. surprising no videos on same diameter drums with different depths for comparisons?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      @@motodrummer We plan on creating lots of comparison videos in the future but want to do them right and that means following a scientific method with only one variable changing. As a result, we're going to need to have quite a few drums built for all of the different comparisons.

  • @officeadministrator7607
    @officeadministrator7607 5 лет назад

    I love this content and video quality! What camera are you all using?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks so much! We’re filming with Canon DSLR cameras with L series lenses and a GoPro for the overhead. Primary camera is the Canon 5D mkIV. Cheers! -Ben

  • @ORicardoNogueira
    @ORicardoNogueira 3 года назад

    Ash's sound is a monster

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  3 года назад

      So true! Plus he’s got a great sounding studio and does an excellent job of engineering/producing his recordings too.

    • @ORicardoNogueira
      @ORicardoNogueira 3 года назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum The Windmill is every drummer's dream. A lot of interesting drums, snares and cymbals. He's got great taste for mic positions and tuning + indecent timing and feel. I'm a huge fan.

  • @hondas_r_slow
    @hondas_r_slow 4 года назад

    I tune my DW's toms low. 8", 10", 12", and 14". I also use the other drum head company's 2 ply stripe head. I find that I really get the drum to sing. On my Yamaha Hipgig kit 14" tom, I found the best tone to come from turning the bottom head lower than the top. Maybe because it is pretty shallow - 12" deep. You two have definitely helped me improve my sound after playing for only 30 years, thanks!

  • @thomashiberg3098
    @thomashiberg3098 5 лет назад

    I got a five drum setup with 12, 14, and 16 inch toms and they are tuned similarly to this, and they are FAT.

  • @zenoncastro1809
    @zenoncastro1809 5 лет назад

    Did you tune your snare by ear? that’s the sound I aim for when playing roots reggae

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      Absolutely! We don’t use any tuning devices other than a key and our ears. -Ben

    • @zenoncastro1809
      @zenoncastro1809 5 лет назад

      Sounds Like A Drum I imagine you tuned this mapex soprano up until just before choking on each side?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      It’ll actually go a bit higher- the snare side for sure. I just had a particular sound/feel in mind and once I got there, I was satisfied.

    • @zenoncastro1809
      @zenoncastro1809 5 лет назад

      Sounds Like A Drum thank you!!

  • @roomdog40
    @roomdog40 5 лет назад

    Great video and beautiful sound out of those drums. I am going to have to ask you to throw that snare drum away though.

  • @tysonduquette1414
    @tysonduquette1414 Год назад

    Easy when u use one of historys best shells ever made!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Год назад

      We can confidently say that the shell design was not the deciding factor here.

  • @dudemanaric
    @dudemanaric 4 года назад

    Should I get a 14 or 18 floor Tom? I have a 12 rack.. Play rock music

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 года назад

      I’d probably split the difference and go with a 16. -Ben

    • @dudemanaric
      @dudemanaric 4 года назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Oops I forgot to mention I have 16 FT

  • @Czyszy
    @Czyszy 5 лет назад

    My tom set consists of a 12" (rack) and a 14" (rack acting like a floor). I should try doing this.

  • @musicman8138
    @musicman8138 4 года назад

    Is that a 12" or 13" snare

  • @DurbsBT
    @DurbsBT 5 лет назад +1

    Great content as always. Minor bit of a feedback; if you're going with the black background, don't wear black! A little bit of floating-head going on :D

    • @charliefarran9603
      @charliefarran9603 5 лет назад

      Paul D great comment mate.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      Hmmm...the shirt is grey. Might wanna check your contrast settings. This was reviewed on several screen prior to uploading for precisely this reason and there was plenty of definition. We'll backlight a bit more in the future just in case.

    • @jangobango2847
      @jangobango2847 5 лет назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum the color was really similar on my phone can only adjust brightness, otherwise sweet video as usual

  • @georgebirddrums
    @georgebirddrums 5 лет назад

    I thought the gretsch 5 lug 12” tom thing was a load of rubbish till I got one and the tuning range on that is utterly ridiculous. Will go as low as the lowest a 14 will go and will go crazy high for jazz. I’m convinced the 5 lug die cast thing is a contributing factor

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      Yep! Tension applied across fewer points yields more tension at each point, meaning that you can tuning lower with less lugs. Gotta love it!

  • @estebangalindo7051
    @estebangalindo7051 5 лет назад

    What snare is that? And the size please!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      That’s a Mapex Black Panther 12x7” power piccolo/soprano snare. We did a episode with this drum earlier this year: Ep. 50 Tuning a Power Piccolo Snare Drum ruclips.net/video/g4E8Tl7dEs8/видео.html
      Cheers!
      Ben

  • @robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
    @robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 5 лет назад

    Pleeeease tell me what kind of snare that is!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад

      It's an older version of the Mapex Black Panther Cherry Bomb 12x7 from 2007. Cheers! -Ben

    • @robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
      @robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 5 лет назад

      Sounds Like A Drum it’s magic. Thanks!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      @@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 You'll enjoy this if you haven't seen it yet: ruclips.net/video/g4E8Tl7dEs8/видео.html

    • @jaxontaylormusic
      @jaxontaylormusic 5 лет назад

      Sounds Like A Drum 🥁

  • @mydixiewrecked315
    @mydixiewrecked315 Год назад

    look up Rob Brown's tuning video, it is much simpler to the way you have complicated the "drum tuning process."

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Год назад

      This is a very simple approach and concept overall. We’ve seen his videos and have addressed the “tuning by sight” approach in a video as well. What we’re talking about here is the idea of using smaller drums for lower tunings.

  • @morgunstyles7253
    @morgunstyles7253 2 года назад

    I would like for someone to explain to me the sudden move to smaller drums. Is it some fashion statement? Logistics? Money? What?

  • @TheBBQify
    @TheBBQify 3 года назад

    Same reason engineers like recording guitars on small cabinets

  • @indrahermawan4506
    @indrahermawan4506 4 года назад +2

    5% drum, 95% speech

  • @BobbyBenton-c5u
    @BobbyBenton-c5u Год назад

    Do that with a mahogany wood shell kit.

  • @Calj_Music89
    @Calj_Music89 5 лет назад

    Also when y'all do the hoop comparison videos for the Toms. Can y'all do S-HOOPS?
    ONLY person I know that uses them faithfully on all his snares and toms is GAVIN HARRISON.
    They're hybrid hoops of die cast and triple flange.

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 5 лет назад

    Love the sound it can create although since the heads are tension lower got to hit a little harder to get the rebound I'm use to. Kind of like floor toms.

  • @paulbolin7513
    @paulbolin7513 3 года назад

    Put a Powerstroke 4 on any tom and it will immediately sound two inches bigger.

  • @morgunstyles7253
    @morgunstyles7253 2 года назад

    I can understand it for pop and jazz, supper club gigs. Not for heavier music.

  • @notforyoutube
    @notforyoutube 2 года назад

    Are you sure the floor Tom is a 16? It looks like a 14

  • @erictorres4889
    @erictorres4889 4 года назад

    Your still not going to get the “newer “ toms to sound like the older ones that’s why I like the power toms .

  • @CocoTheArtist001
    @CocoTheArtist001 4 года назад

    12:29

  • @swampland
    @swampland 5 лет назад

    ill probably get slammed for saying this but i think people over tune the crap out of their toms, its simple press in the center with a little tension and turn the rods until the wrinkles disappear in front of the rod you are turning. tuning pattern doesn't matter. it get the lowest sound the tom can produce without going flat.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +2

      I’d like to think you wouldn’t get slammed here, as we’ve worked to establish a community of drummers that supports each other rather than taking each other down or trying to “one-up” each other.
      When you say, “over tune the crap out of their toms,” are you referring to the amount of tension applied or people somehow making it more difficult? Either way, an interesting observation. While the process of tuning in general can be simplified with practice and experience, we respect that not everyone has been taught these methods or has the experience.
      Hopefully you enjoyed the episode.
      -Ben

    • @swampland
      @swampland 5 лет назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum i absolutely enjoyed this video, its great, i just think of the beginner drummer (when i started) i spent countless hours watching vhs tapes of drummers showing how to tune and spent days tuning for the weekend shows only to hate the sound coming from my toms and i think in this day and age most people out there teaching tuning methods are doing the exact same thing. listen to all the people that still hate the sound of one of their toms. we have a market saturated with every type of tuning device a video and people generally are still getting the same result. i struggled with my sound for years as a performing drummer and it was not until i saw a guy so simply tune his drums with the method i stated that the light bulb went off and it blew my mind. the tuning process is way more simple than most people and main stream make it out to be. thanks.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +1

      Glad to hear it! It’s true- this stuff really isn’t rocket science but it does take some practice and the willingness to listen and develop your ear. What works on one drum might not work as well on the next. What sounded great with one drumhead might sound like hitting a wet paper bag with another. Clearing a drum is one thing, getting a great tone for a drum is another. We hope to continue to provide the resources and inspiration that people have come to expect from us with this series to help everyone feel more comfortable with tuning and experimenting. Cheers!

    • @swampland
      @swampland 5 лет назад

      @@SoundsLikeADrum by the way your drums sound great. my point in all this is, if you had ten minutes to get on stage and jump on someone else's kit or a backline kit, there's no way you will be able to tune a set with traditional tuning methods. but the other way you can tune a kit in 5 to 10 mins. also were not talking about studio sound, though, i'd still tune the same way. great content. i just hope this helps newer drummers struggling with tuning. thanks

    • @funkdrummer
      @funkdrummer 5 лет назад +1

      swampland fellow Louisianan here! I agree with your statement about a quick tune up. Rob "beat down" Brown has a great video detailing the exact method you speak of.

  • @toomdog
    @toomdog 4 года назад +1

    Wait, you're telling me that they were tuned low the whole video? I thought your floor tom sounded like a 12 tuned in the sweet range.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 года назад +2

      Yep! These were at the very bottom of the range for these drums.

  • @TwoandaHater
    @TwoandaHater 5 лет назад

    AIC opening- love it.

  • @remygaron8311
    @remygaron8311 5 лет назад +2

    Black is way better👏👏👏👏🇨🇦🇨🇦🥁🥁🥁

  • @TriggerThat
    @TriggerThat 3 года назад

    1000 likes, yesssss, do I win something, is there some kind of prize? ;) Great video.

  • @krusher74
    @krusher74 Год назад

    17 min video to basically say try tuning small sized rack toms as low as they will go.

  • @rowanlinderud1800
    @rowanlinderud1800 3 года назад

    that snare :v

  • @morgunstyles7253
    @morgunstyles7253 2 года назад

    Well you just explained my last comment

  • @morgunstyles7253
    @morgunstyles7253 2 года назад

    Im still confused about the reason the industry is going towards small drums.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 5 лет назад

    Nice to do one on concert / bottomless toms.
    The first 7 min is just talking 😡

  • @7merkaba7
    @7merkaba7 5 лет назад +3

    Don't mean to offend, but you talk too much man

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +5

      Hey there. Have you watched our other videos? There’s no more talking in this episode than in others...

    • @zenoncastro1809
      @zenoncastro1809 5 лет назад +6

      This is an educational channel so no, they don’t

  • @jove1155
    @jove1155 5 лет назад +4

    Jesus... doesnt sound like a drum at all... just a guy talking, talking, TALKINGTALKINGTALKING...

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +12

      Hey there! Sounds like you probably just discovered our channel. We do weekly tutorials and overviews on specific drum sounds and tuning approaches. The majority of our videos are not focused around playing- there are plenty of other channels for that. We’re all about actionable, expert advice and inspiring drummers to experiment with their sounds. However, we will be releasing extended cuts of the demos from all of our videos in the future. Stay tuned (can’t resist the pun!) for an announcement later this week. Cheers! -Ben

    • @Riddim4
      @Riddim4 5 лет назад

      Jove 1155: Perhaps you’d benefit from more listening.

  • @tamboler0
    @tamboler0 5 лет назад +3

    You talk too much.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 лет назад +6

      Hey there! Sounds like you probably just discovered our channel. We do weekly tutorials and overviews on specific drum sounds and tuning approaches. The majority of our videos are not focused around playing- there are plenty of other channels for that. We’re all about actionable, expert advice and inspiring drummers to experiment with their sounds. However, we will be releasing extended cuts of the demos from all of our videos in the future. Stay tuned (can’t resist the pun!) for an announcement later this week. Cheers! -Ben

  • @drumerboy456sx
    @drumerboy456sx Год назад

    Who the heck is this guy ??

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Год назад

      Who the heck are you? 😂 I’m Ben, I produce this series.