@@shabbarali3973 he blew off could not explain it correctly. Conventional swing is done with the new ball not with an old ball (where seam has a key role to play) where both sides r shiny and an old ball has one side shiny and other rough here this fluid mechanism comes into play where there is a considerable pressure difference due to which the ball swings away from higher pressure region to lower here seam has no role to play
Hai sir i have a small doubt.... Please let me clear..... In laminar side velocity is high so as per bernoulli's principle pressure should be less right?because Pressure and velocity are in inversely proportional relation. but here how it will become high pressure side.
I had the same doubt. What I think is... Its not the bernoulli principle, but the coanda effect. So the airflow attaches itself more to the rough side, ending up propelling the ball in the rough side direction.
@NidinZ yes you're right he said wrongly Actually he must have made a video on his own observations and he must not be a bowler otherwise he would've known this
Air pressure is low on turbulent (rough) side? 🤔 Shouldnt it be higher? Just like when you partially obstruct flow of water from a tap, pressure increases?
But in conventional Swing it is not important that you should face the seam towards the slips you have to just put shinny side on the left side if you want to bowl inswinger
@@harish8140 Which is reverse swing, if you face shiny side on on-side it will go outswing but in reverse swing if you face shiny side on on-side it will go inswinger
Nice explanation...but how can one tell if a delivery was a seam or a swing ball.....because I have seen people call a ball a swing ball even if it turned after hitting the pitch? thats what confuses me, because i thought for a swing ball you just need to look at the trajectory of the ball before it hits the pitch?
Don't agree with your explanation for reverse swing, in reality ball swings in the direction of the shiny side but your explanation is opposite, why is it so?
To my understanding, his explanation is wrong. In reverse swing the ball moves towards the shinier side of the ball. Mind it, reverse swing happen late in the innings whence the rough side has lost significant mass. The shinier side is relatively heavier than the rough sode, hence in air, the ball dips towards the shiny heavier side.
@@abhinavmohanty1813 Yes agree with you, mass of the ball and fluid dynamics act on ball ...this video although made well is misleading/confusing viewers
@@abhinavmohanty1813 exactly...also ball can swing on the very first delivery itself with both sides being equally shiny....this video putting out half info
Totally wrong explaination. The ball experiences low pressure on laminar(shiny side) and hence moves towards the shiny side itself. Free air give rises to low pressure. That is why we are advised not to stand near a fast moving train bcs it creats a low pressure zone and on our back (normal atmosphere) has relatively high pressure which gives our back a push towards train
Because of the seam position and conditions around. If conditions are not sitable, bowl will not swing. In reverse swing ball swings towards shining side i.e opposite of conventional swing
Why in that case balls without Seam also swing? Take a new smooth surface plastic ball (like table tennis ball) and it will swing better than the typical cricket leather ball. on the contrary, take a tennis ball and throw it with the Sling Arm action. it will also swing opposite to the way a typical smooth ball swings. there seems to be something more than just the Air working here. it seems it has something to do with Rotational Motion as well.
Totally wrong explaination. The ball experiences low pressure on laminar(shiny side) and hence moves towards the shiny side itself. Free air give rises to low pressure. That is why we are advised not to stand near a fast moving train bcs it creats a low pressure zone and on our back (normal atmosphere) has relatively high pressure which gives our back a push towards train
Exactly vro..but in major videos they taught exactly same as in this video so I got really confuse whether I trust my pressure trade off concept or this man..
Purpose of shinning is smaller the radius of that side. It effects to lower the air flow rate. Air flow rate is oppositely proportion to the pressure. That means, pressure of the shined side much higher than the other side. Force applied to the ball is higher from the high pressured side. That's why the ball swings. In my opinion.. 🙂
Why do videos conflate rough side and smooth side fluid dynamics which is for older ball! New ball it has just got to do with the seam crating turbulence! While the ball is traveling forward it is rotating in the backwards direction people! Because that is how a bowler releases it, the ball is not stationary. Swing is not just a result of airflow there is also corrolis effect in play. It’s not a simple effect.
Indian are very good at explaining things,,, like in this case swing,,, but in practice they are helpless,,, like in this case their fast bowlers,, :) Can someone refer this video to INDIAN BOWLERS
Totally wrong explaination. The ball experiences low pressure on laminar(shiny side) and hence moves towards the shiny side itself. Free air give rises to low pressure. That is why we are advised not to stand near a fast moving train bcs it creats a low pressure zone and on our back (normal atmosphere) has relatively high pressure which gives our back a push towards train
Sorry brother but u blew off could not explain it correctly. Conventional swing is done with the new ball not with an old ball (where seam has a key role to play) where both sides r shiny and an old ball has one side shiny and other rough here this fluid mechanism comes into play where there is a considerable pressure difference due to which the ball swings away from higher pressure region to lower here seam has no role to play
My physics teacher would love this
It is likely that your physics teacher already knows this cause swing bowling is based on basic bernoulli's principle which is taught in class 11
@@RoronoaZoro-gu3kl o
Zyada khush mat ho jao . It's a wrong explaination
Bai confuse kar diya yar is Tou.
@@shabbarali3973 he blew off could not explain it correctly. Conventional swing is done with the new ball not with an old ball (where seam has a key role to play) where both sides r shiny and an old ball has one side shiny and other rough here this fluid mechanism comes into play where there is a considerable pressure difference due to which the ball swings away from higher pressure region to lower here seam has no role to play
What about the swing generated on very first ball or new ball Both sides are equally shiny
He described on very first by Seam presentation
Hai sir i have a small doubt.... Please let me clear..... In laminar side velocity is high so as per bernoulli's principle pressure should be less right?because Pressure and velocity are in inversely proportional relation. but here how it will become high pressure side.
I had the same doubt. What I think is... Its not the bernoulli principle, but the coanda effect. So the airflow attaches itself more to the rough side, ending up propelling the ball in the rough side direction.
same doubt here too...
@@swapnilbandgar8730 Magnus effect. I think he made a mistake because PV= constant.
here the rough side has the higher velocity... not the otherway around.
@NidinZ yes you're right he said wrongly
Actually he must have made a video on his own observations and he must not be a bowler otherwise he would've known this
Can you make a video how ball turns in spin bowling?
Yes, we are working on it. Will share soon :)
@@IndiaScience would be happy if you put the link here after that is finished. Thanks :)
Bro.....cricket ball can swing on the very first ball itself....with both sides being equally shiny...how can you explain that ??
Bowlers make an angle between line of throw and seam
@@mr.scientist1469 indeed .... the difference in the wake as the air flows over the ball is responsible for that , not the difference in shine
@@mr.scientist1469 with the new ball seam bowler keep straight and moves either ball direction... how can you explain that??
Air pressure is low on turbulent (rough) side? 🤔
Shouldnt it be higher? Just like when you partially obstruct flow of water from a tap, pressure increases?
So that's why in Dubai cricket grounds white ball doesn't swing that much in T20 WC 2021, hot whether not much air or wind to friction for the ball.
English conditions are the best for swing
You are explaining the air pressure on rough and shining side wrong...stop spreading wrong information
yeah . he is saying the opposite
No, he is right gentleman....
yeah..
smooth side -air travels faster... low pressure
rough side -air travels slower...high pressure
Yes, you didn’t even consider the weight of the ball being lost on the rough side
@India Science can u please make video on spin bowl?
But in conventional Swing it is not important that you should face the seam towards the slips you have to just put shinny side on the left side if you want to bowl inswinger
Bro that is reverse swing
@@harish8140 Which is reverse swing, if you face shiny side on on-side it will go outswing but in reverse swing if you face shiny side on on-side it will go inswinger
Nice explanation...but how can one tell if a delivery was a seam or a swing ball.....because I have seen people call a ball a swing ball even if it turned after hitting the pitch? thats what confuses me, because i thought for a swing ball you just need to look at the trajectory of the ball before it hits the pitch?
@cricketexplained8526 But before it hits the ground? or even after it hits the ground?
Don't agree with your explanation for reverse swing, in reality ball swings in the direction of the shiny side but your explanation is opposite, why is it so?
To my understanding, his explanation is wrong. In reverse swing the ball moves towards the shinier side of the ball. Mind it, reverse swing happen late in the innings whence the rough side has lost significant mass. The shinier side is relatively heavier than the rough sode, hence in air, the ball dips towards the shiny heavier side.
@@abhinavmohanty1813 Yes agree with you, mass of the ball and fluid dynamics act on ball ...this video although made well is misleading/confusing viewers
@@abhinavmohanty1813 exactly...also ball can swing on the very first delivery itself with both sides being equally shiny....this video putting out half info
Totally wrong explaination. The ball experiences low pressure on laminar(shiny side) and hence moves towards the shiny side itself. Free air give rises to low pressure. That is why we are advised not to stand near a fast moving train bcs it creats a low pressure zone and on our back (normal atmosphere) has relatively high pressure which gives our back a push towards train
Exactly
Thank you.🙏❤️
Well my ball never had a rough side, even it never had a seam either 🙂
Its a Tennis ball? 🤣🤣🤣
@@khanrazon6796 yes 🙂
@Angus beef doesn't work. Tape doesn't applies the rule of a cricket ball.
If rough side is essential for swing then how ball swings on the very first ball of match
Because of the seam position and conditions around. If conditions are not sitable, bowl will not swing. In reverse swing ball swings towards shining side i.e opposite of conventional swing
Why in that case balls without Seam also swing? Take a new smooth surface plastic ball (like table tennis ball) and it will swing better than the typical cricket leather ball.
on the contrary, take a tennis ball and throw it with the Sling Arm action. it will also swing opposite to the way a typical smooth ball swings. there seems to be something more than just the Air working here. it seems it has something to do with Rotational Motion as well.
very well said sir
Bro you are talking about reverse swing not normal swing
Very nice.. Thank you..i bet 90% of amateur cricket players don't know this
Awesome explanation 😀
Easily explained ❤
what about swing with new ball
Nice now We can make our science lessons more interesting
Totally wrong explaination. The ball experiences low pressure on laminar(shiny side) and hence moves towards the shiny side itself. Free air give rises to low pressure. That is why we are advised not to stand near a fast moving train bcs it creats a low pressure zone and on our back (normal atmosphere) has relatively high pressure which gives our back a push towards train
Exactly vro..but in major videos they taught exactly same as in this video so I got really confuse whether I trust my pressure trade off concept or this man..
Fast moving air creates an upward thrust ! Bernoulli's principle
Purpose of shinning is smaller the radius of that side. It effects to lower the air flow rate. Air flow rate is oppositely proportion to the pressure. That means, pressure of the shined side much higher than the other side. Force applied to the ball is higher from the high pressured side. That's why the ball swings. In my opinion.. 🙂
Bhai use language which u are good at..
And then in the end you say to try it on rubber ball cricket! :D
Haha
NICE EXPLANATION
Thanks and welcome
GREAT VIDEO
Thanks!
In reverse swing rough side is not towards batsman and ball swings towards the shining side. Research again
Reverse swing is actually the opposite of what you said!
Wrong information, regarding reverse swing.
It seems he is not a cricketer.
Thankyou
Nice & clear explanation
Bro info is hela wrong
Thanks
Why do videos conflate rough side and smooth side fluid dynamics which is for older ball! New ball it has just got to do with the seam crating turbulence! While the ball is traveling forward it is rotating in the backwards direction people! Because that is how a bowler releases it, the ball is not stationary. Swing is not just a result of airflow there is also corrolis effect in play. It’s not a simple effect.
I am outswinger bowler😊
Crap i was thinking about quiting study and be a cricketer
Pura English ho riya hai 😂❤❤
Amazing
Really it is helpful for me
3:56 You have showed the opposite in this example
Shine side is wrong
Wrong information.
Indian are very good at explaining things,,, like in this case swing,,, but in practice they are helpless,,, like in this case their fast bowlers,, :) Can someone refer this video to INDIAN BOWLERS
Wrong explanation, you are spreading wrong information.
Finally, understood.
Wrong explained
can you tell me the right explanation
@@prabhudevasingh8444 yes I also want to know...
@@Winnersneverquit19 this video is not wrong
this is only the actual truth
Totally wrong explaination. The ball experiences low pressure on laminar(shiny side) and hence moves towards the shiny side itself. Free air give rises to low pressure. That is why we are advised not to stand near a fast moving train bcs it creats a low pressure zone and on our back (normal atmosphere) has relatively high pressure which gives our back a push towards train
Over the excellent
wrong explanation sir
Cover drive is my favourite shot
Totally wrong explanation sir 🤡
Totally wrong
Sorry brother but u blew off could not explain it correctly. Conventional swing is done with the new ball not with an old ball (where seam has a key role to play) where both sides r shiny and an old ball has one side shiny and other rough here this fluid mechanism comes into play where there is a considerable pressure difference due to which the ball swings away from higher pressure region to lower here seam has no role to play