I'd love to see a series where the custom cards have a new reveal mixed in and Trump has to guess which card is real, criticising blizzard would never print something that's real like the polkelt video :p
I still want a Trump reviews actual cards like custom cards video Because you know he would have blown up at Renethal for not being something Blizz would actually make
Trump: 10 mana 30/30 is bad for beginers to face Begginer playing against last year control warrior: RATTLEGORE RATTLEGOORE RATTLEGOOORE RATTLEGOOOORE RATTLEGOOOOORE RATTLEGOOOOOORE RATTLEGOOOOOOORE RATTLEGOOOOOOOORE RATTLEGOOOOOOOOORE
atleast the ancient one is an exciting card that they can also quite easily make. Better then losing to a legendary they cant afford and cant kill with the shitty F2P removal
@@ich3730 Both the Droplet and the original Blood are epics. New F2P players will not be able to craft two of them, and shouldn't do it even when they get enough dust because it's a meme.
The difference is that if you don't answer a 30/30 immediately, you just die. if you don't answer rattlegore immediately it sucks, but you still do have time to find a freeze, transform, or silene effect, or just go over the top of him. Rattlegore is stronger than a 10 mana 30/30 would be because it's harder to answer him, but he's also less frustrating because you have more time to answer him.
@@AMageOldAsDirt Also Druid currently has zero counters they don't randomly generate to stop the Ancient One. Rattle can be whittled down with taunts and big boards.
@@fuscello if you're playing a a deck without taunts, hard removal or any way to block this you kinda deserve to be smacked by the 🅱️ancient one once in a while
I think the high cost/bad stats on Denathrius was a deliberate choice, the effect makes your deck more consistent but also add a deadcard to it, kinda like Genn and Baku.
@Abdullah Orhan I was honestly surprised that Trump didn't think about it and instead proposed to not make it "bad stats for the cost", especially after repeatedly saying that the effect is strong.
Because its really unfun to draw Baku. I mean a lot of hs players are haha aggro, but drawing Baku turn 1/2 sucks even in odd Warrior because you could never play the card and if you could you probably lost.
“It was” as a 1 mana 2 mana 3 mana would probably work out better imo, keeps the 6 mana but backloads it so the location discovery isn’t a MASSIVE tempo swing as well as an easy combo initiator
The "it was..." card may have 1 mana cost for the first card, two for the weapon part and 3 for the location... minions tends to be worst than weapons, and locations are more reliable than both
Actually a pretty solid idea here. I originally had the card attached to a minion battlecry. It was a detective that if a certain amount of minions died it added It Was… to your hand. Balance wise I think it was better but I didn’t like the detective minion so much as it felt like just a copy of Murloc Holmes so I opted for increasing the cost of all the steps by one and just having It Was.. be it’s own card. This would have been a much better way of balancing the separate cards.
Maybe one way to buff "It was/With the/In the" without making it a bunch of cheap rogue spells would be to decrease the cost of the discovered cards by 1 instead? Seems less dangerous.
@@VidaDeSims you kind of lose the whole flavor in that case, here you play "It was..." to discover a minion, "With the..." to discover a weapon and "In the..." to discover a location, making a nice little story of "This guy killed the victim with this thing at this place", which you uncover step by step. If you bunch the discovers together, you just discover a minion, a weapon and a location but the whole story idea gets lost.
If we made “It Was…” 1-mana, maybe it should also be a legendary spell. Since the design fits with the set so well, making it Legendary would make sense
Good point about Rock Bottom being used just to run 29 card decks. Makes me picture a card that just reads "Start of game: Destroy this and another random card from your deck."
Interesting! But that one doesn't really make your deck more consistent the way a smaller deck normally might, because it could just as easily destroy the best card in your deck as the worst one.
@@Phagocytosis Nah it will make it more consistent. But only as a 29 card deck not 28. Assuming you don't draw through all your cards then there is no difference between a random card getting destroyed and putting a random card on the bottom of your deck (which is what happens in every normal game).
@@TheDcac Oh, I suppose you're right! Since it also deletes itself. Good point! That said, I remember that argument from when Trump was defending Fel Reaver, and he was right in principle, but of course in practice, fatigue was reached more often than Trump figured. Still, that's probably not the case with a card that just deletes two cards once. Or at least to a far smaller degree.
I think there's a lot of room to develop the inept fortuneteller idea into other cards. Eg you could have one that draws a card, and then the turn afte reveals its cost and then the next turn reveals it. Or as a little quest draw two cards and then complete objectives (play/kill a minion, cast x spells) to reveal them. Neat idea that though!
Excited Visitor's name and artwork would fit much better, if he summoned a copy of your enemies location with one duration, because of the pictures he took while visiting.
Wouldn't the flipped over cards from Inept Fortuneteller imply not only could you not see your cards, but that the opponent could see the two you draw?
Inquisitor Fairbanks shall for sure have a "Battlecry:" part before the infuse one, otherwise it's ridiculous, your hand just summons minions out of nowhere... Also, Inept Fortuneteller is making deck traker a game changing software as if new Murlock Holmes wasn't enough
The wording isn't very good and should probably be docked a design point, unless it is intended to summon them from hand (which is completely broken). It should probably read: Infuse (5): Gain 'Battlecry: Summon the minions that infused this'.
@@manu_j_??? There is an infuse minion in the set that reads 'Infuse: Gain +2/+2'. Infuse doesn't mean 'gain' , it means 'when this card is in your hand and X minions die, add this effect to your card'. That real card will get buffed in your hand, so the implication of this custom card is that it will trigger the summon from hand, or not at all. For spells it is different but for a minion you need to clarify that it is a battlecry, or deathrattle, or whatever it may be, otherwise who knows what triggers it?
Droplet of madness is a two card combo that requires you have 5 minions die (up to 10 if you need to have them in your hand) to have a 10 mana 30/30. I'm not exactly sure how Infuse works, if it's like corrupt where it reveals the effect happening to the opponent and you need to have it in your hand, but idk if that would solve the new player issue.
One change i would make to "It was" would be to give you the next card "with the" at the start of your next turn instead of right away so you cant do them all at once that would balance it being 1 mana
A 5 mana 9/9 being considered overpowered in this day and age seems weird. You are rarely happy when you play a Giant for 5 mana and a Giant with +1/+1 isn't that much better either.
I think Ur'zul Giant is the closest comparison. If 5 minions die it costs 8, but it doesn't have to be in your hand while that's happening, so that's probably about the same. I think there might be a minion that gets +1/1 in your hand every time a friendly minion dies? I can't remember what it's called though. I agree that Trump is probably overvaluing the card either way.
The cool thing about Pyramad the Partier here is that it has benefit even if you bypass the battlecry. That's a problem some recent big deck stuff has, you cheat it out, but lose some of the benefit (due to no battlecry), but this still has the insane deathrattle, so if IT gets cheated out, it's still really valuable.
Yeah, i remember that "feast or famine" type, that just spring question "who the hell thought it's a good idea?". Like the card that destroy opponent's armour regardless of how much he saved. Just for a heck of it. And honourable mention for the card that convert all your life into armour leaving you with 1 hp. Ah, that card will probably be in ecstasy seeing all that armour being destroyed.
One thing that might help with the "It was..." problem of quickly adding cards from another class to your hand is changing the starting card a bit. My idea was to make it along the lines of "Discover a minion that killed another minion this game. Add "With the..." to your hand." I believe that this would not harm the flavor in any way (you are discovering a murderer after all) and would probably discourage very early usage of the card since your opponent might not have killed any minions on turn one or two (meaning you waste one mana on starting turns and the starting card itself) and if you kill any minions yourself, you are adding a minion from your own class to your hand which negates the problem as well. Maybe if that would still not be enough, the starting card could be kept at 2 mana and the rest at 1 mana, or the follow up cards could be added to your hand at the end of the turn.
I don't know much about tarot reading, but doesn't it usually require drawing 3 cards from the deck? If I'm correct then Inept Fortuneteller might have slightly better flavour if it drew 3 cards (obviously the cost and stats would be needed to be adjusted).
I feel like droplet of madness is fine, any control deck should be able to deal with a vanilla big stat minion, and an aggro or combo deck will most likely kill you by the time you get both cards, activate them, then get 10 mana and spend the turn playing a big guy, and even if they haven't killed you by your "turn 10: do nothing" they could put down a taunt
An extra wrinkle that could be a part of flipped over cards is that you could have it so they face the opponent. Would be funny to watch an opponent play around a card they know about which tips you off to what they are or maybe they could run the bluffs and get inside your head. The card would have to be balanced with that consideration, but I think it's a particularly cute way to literally interpret the card.
I'd change Excited Visitor to a 3 mana 3/3 "Target a Location, add a copy to your hand" maybe it costs 1 less, maybe it has reduced durability, but either way it keeps the theme of taking a picture of it and holding on to it Edit: If being able to copy your own location and using multiple in a game is too overpowered then I'd limit it to just targeting an opponent's location
Inquisitor Fairbanks in wild would be crazy in big priest. Summon multiple big threats in one turn, get board wiped, then resummon them all for 8 mana instead of having to charge a spellstone or only 3 for 9 mana.
Yeah but he also stinks up your Blood of G'hun/shadow essence/resurrect pool. Much better to have lots of good smaller summons than have one big swing but lower the overall consistency of your summons.
Maybe with the Rogue Spell it adds the next step of the Clue Mystery to your hand at the start of your next turn? Limits the gross things Rogue could do if it were 1 mana.
Inept fortunteller is really funny. what i like about hearthstone is that they really test what can be done in a digital card game, I've noticed that a lot of online card games limit themselves by whats possible in paper.
Would Tamsin copy a transformed card or create an original copy of the card? Cause making deathly touch cost 1 would balance it nicely if it didn't copy the transformed card
I think Deathly Touch would be great at Infuse (6). Because of Life Tap, cheap conditional removal is much more powerful in Warlock than other classes. Moonfire is nearly playable on its own, so it doesn't need to infuse that often to become a viable deck inclusion.
Unsure how to value infuse... Needing to have it in hand is historically poor unless the cards feed off each other. (such as naga mage with spells and naga tribals) I feel like the mechanics might only find a home in zoo/swarm decks long term.
Which to be fair, every archetype revealed so far for the set is board based; evolve, deathrattle druid, skeleton mage, dude paladin, self damage warrior. So I think they'll at least try to make every class have functional infuse cards.
@@guacopera259 Combo distinctly activates you when play the card though, Infuse activates directly in the hand, as seen with the ones that gain stats. They are effective immediately. It's also the same wording used on corrupt witch also triggers in hand.
That's still 6 mana for 3 cards, way too much, meanwhile thoughtsteal is 2 mana for 2 cards, there's also 2 mana add two spells in rogue too. It's generally accepted that discovering a card can only be 1 mana effect, anything ever that was printed for 2 mana, like paladin's 2 mana ''Discover a minion, give it +1/+1'' was always unplayable, even with added small benefits. And if getting 3 cards proves to be just too much for 3 mana, put it at 4, have it be 1/1/2 and be done with it, there's really no reason to insist on 1/2/3, 3/2/1, 1/1/1 or 2/2/2 for flavor reasons. Flavor should be in the card itself, not in the cost you pay for it, that's just it, cost that should balance it for game purposes.
I think inept fortune teller has a major problem is that it doesn’t have a downside if you have a deck tracker. Because the use would be able to see what cards were removed from their deck. I don’t know what blizzard’s stance on trackers are, but considering many streamers use them I doubt they care. But a card that says “battle cry: become utterly overpowered if you have a deck tracker” shouldn’t be printed so long as deck trackers are a thing.
I think that last card is SO in flavor they should have made it a neutral spell. I know there isn't neutral spells, but there is a first time for everything like the first neutral weapon. You can also make it a 3 mana card that discover all 3 options to avoid 1 man spell shenanigans and avoid curve shenanigans. Also, if you want to nerf it a bit more you could make it to where the opponent sees the card. It's in flavor since you are announcing the culprit.
I feel like Deathly Touch isn't even THAT egregious. It is quite a bit better than Shiver Their Timbers! in Pirate Warrior when it is ACTIVE, but it takes A LOT more work to get there. It's a card you pretty much HAVE to open with for it to be live at a decent time which means you are effectively down a card several turns which could make activating it that much more difficult. If this is in your hand that means it isn't another minion that could be used to Infuse it which is the problem I feel A LOT of Infuse cards will have similar to Corrupt.
I really like how the trump card of the week is just a blatant reference to Cluedo. It's not nearly as good for those who don't get the reference... but I love it.
It's not like that's unthinkable in hearthstone, the Elwynn Boar for example isn't nearly as fun for those who don't know the south park episode it references.
I don't remember where I posted it, maybe in last weeks custom hearthstone video, but I had a very similar idea to the "It was....." card here except I said just make it a Questline for Rogue. They've brought hero cards back for singular classes so I didn't see an issue with only Rogue getting a Questline. I didn't exactly say what the "tasks" would be, but my idea would've been first reward is "It was...." where you discover a legendary minion from another class (Dragon's Hoard pretty much). The next part would've been "In the...." where you simply discover a location from another class. The final reward would've obviously been "With the....", but since it was a Questline I felt it to be fair that instead of a weapon something more powerful like a Kazakusan treasure would've been an appropriate enough reward compared to a random weapon from another class as doing ALL that work to get a 7 mana Gorehowl is just....terrible. Obviously it could be something else on that power level or if it WAS a treasure you'd "omit" options that don't make sense flavor wise such as Wax Rager falling more into murder"er" territory than murder "weapon".
The Inept Fortuneteller card might be too strong at 2 mana, but I like the idea of drawing more than 1 card. I think drawing 1 card would be too weak especially because I imagine the cards would be visible to your opponent while flipped over. If you’re holding a powerful board clear, they will get that information and can play around the cards in hand. The card is definitely too strong at 2 manna, so maybe it just needs to be upped in mana and stats. It’s a 2/2 for 2 so why not a 3/3 for 3? Or a 4/4 for 4? Tweak it until it’s appropriate for its cost. The effect is really cool though.
I was hesitant too but considering card draw isn't too strong on priest (albeit out of flavour) and we already have 2 mana draw two, the first change I'd be inclined to make would be turn it into a 1/2.
If you draw Rock Bottom in your mulligan, it would get yoinked from your hand at the start of the game, right? Meaning 1 in 15 games or so, you would start with one less card. That by itself makes the card not worth playing IMO, it more than offsets the increased consistency of playing a 29 card deck.
4:00 I feel like that at 5 mana wouldn't be busted as a 9/9 as it would basically have to be in hand turn 1 and still have token combo things for the turn 5 play but also warlock has the 4 mana summon a demon with stats equal to your hand and that really isn't busted despite often being on curve and just a 4 mana 9/9
Droplet of Madness doesn't seem completely out of line to me. We have combos that can kill you before 10, and this seems unlikely to come down by 10 all that often (you need to draw both and then get five things to die after doing that). A 10-mana combo that requires some lucky draws and setup has been allowed to OTK you in the past, so I don't really see why one being able to generate a massive threat that will kill you next turn if not deal with isn't okay.
Denathrius also has a huge issue that it makes the mirrors even MORE volatile than they already are. Aggro mirrors already are super coin flippy and snowball out of control by whoever secures the board first and this just exacerbates the problem. Rogue MIGHT be able to maybe win back a board right now by drawing Gnoll or whatever and playing it on turn 3 or 4, but if both players are at 20 the Rogue might have already taken 6 damage (30% of their health) by JUST a 1 mana 2/2 by that point and be on death's door no matter what they do. In a Denathrius Mirror (heh) I would almost guarantee the stats are UNBELIEVABLY skewed towards the winner of the coin toss at like 70-30 or better. You are pretty much always going to be able to win in a race especially since your deck will be consistent enough to find some amount of reach over the top. DH for example probably just wins most games on turn 5 after playing for board/burn turns 1-4 to get you into Arcanite Reaper range.
I think deck size should be optional with at least 30 and renathal should give you 40 if you have at least 40. Maybe have the limit at 60 or so because the deck can only have a certain number in a match
You know what? They should make it a priest card. It Was... With the... In the... That's such an amazing card, and it wouldn't be a problem. Divination fits their theme as well, and some card generation would actually be great for Priest.
I pitch this idea often but a pacthwerk or stiches neutral card. 5 cost 5/8 Start of game: if all cards in your deck are neutral cards your health starts at 50. But now with this new 40 health card. Idk lol
The one thing i think is that the starting health being 20 was kinda glossed over unfairly, since it means an aggro deck that doesn't run it most likely wins that matchup, and you have less wiggle room if you do miss the cards you need. personally, as someone who plays a renathal control mage, i think it'd be neat to see a 20/20 opponent, since i will most likely outlast them. but the consistency that 20 cards brings is strangulating. I played Duel Links, players pretty much always had the cards they wanted in their starting hands. comparing to a third card game, for magic the gathering, there is a major difference in consistency between a 60 card deck and an 80 card deck. before i understood the concept of deck consistency i played an 80 card mono-red deck. it was abysmal. once i shaved down to 60 it actually performed semi-reasonably. i also just sucked at deck building at the time, which certainly didn't help. the "It Was" "With the" "in the" i think the first part should be discover a legendary minion from another class, so you don't get instances of "it was the wisp", which just feels bizzare to me. If you really want to get deep with that, you could make it the other 9 suspects this set has. So my example would be "it was Kryxis the Voracious, With the Warglaives of Azinoth, in the Hedge maze". I don't think that is necessary strictly speaking, but could be a neat little tweak.
I'm not even convinced that "start on the bottom of your deck" is balanced if the card says "When drawn, destroy your hero" Deathly Touch might be more interesting as "Infuse (X): Deal X damage to a minion" Excited Visitor could just read "Battlecry: Apply the effect of all enemy Locations" (it'd be allowed to target one thing when cast)
I feel like Excited Visitor would make more sense if it said something like "Use an enemy location this turn", more balanced and fitting to the Name.
100%, you should get to steal 1 use.
Maybe just a card text of "You may use enemy locations as if they were your own." would work?
That would make so much more sense in terms of flavor, in design to not ruin locations, and in balance
Why don’t you design the card instead?
Overbearing Guest would be a better name imo
I thought of summoning a copy with 1 duration.
Another thing with Rock Bottom is that there's already a card in the game with that exact name
And knowing the developers, that probably was a SpongeBob reference too
@@Icetea-2000 there is also a card named Chum Bucket
@@mikcent4435 oh my god true, then that’s basically confirmed
@@mikcent4435 but chum buckets are an actual thing in fishing
Dredging up rock bottom using rock bottom be like
I'd love to see a series where the custom cards have a new reveal mixed in and Trump has to guess which card is real, criticising blizzard would never print something that's real like the polkelt video :p
I still want a Trump reviews actual cards like custom cards video
Because you know he would have blown up at Renethal for not being something Blizz would actually make
THIS, please!
love this idea~
That's such a fun idea.
GIVE THIS MAN A PIZZA PARTY FOR HIS GOOD EFFORTS AND GREAT IDEAS
Hey man thanks so much for the kind words, I’m so glad you liked the card so much! Honored to be the Trump Card of this week!
High praise!
Trump:
10 mana 30/30 is bad for beginers to face
Begginer playing against last year control warrior:
RATTLEGORE
RATTLEGOORE
RATTLEGOOORE
RATTLEGOOOORE
RATTLEGOOOOORE
RATTLEGOOOOOORE
RATTLEGOOOOOOORE
RATTLEGOOOOOOOORE
RATTLEGOOOOOOOOORE
atleast the ancient one is an exciting card that they can also quite easily make. Better then losing to a legendary they cant afford and cant kill with the shitty F2P removal
@@ich3730 Both the Droplet and the original Blood are epics. New F2P players will not be able to craft two of them, and shouldn't do it even when they get enough dust because it's a meme.
The difference is that if you don't answer a 30/30 immediately, you just die. if you don't answer rattlegore immediately it sucks, but you still do have time to find a freeze, transform, or silene effect, or just go over the top of him. Rattlegore is stronger than a 10 mana 30/30 would be because it's harder to answer him, but he's also less frustrating because you have more time to answer him.
@@AMageOldAsDirt Also Druid currently has zero counters they don't randomly generate to stop the Ancient One. Rattle can be whittled down with taunts and big boards.
@@Linkfan001 They can play Big Game Hunter, easy win!
I feel like droplet of madness should keep the stats when it transforms into 🅱️lood of the ancient one
It would literally not make a difference as you're only playing it when you're playing both of them in the same turn
@@CloudianMH Trump's point was that as a 5 mana 9/9 it might be too strong even on its own.
The 🅱️ancient One
The 🅱️ancient one is too powerful against decks without hard removal
@@fuscello if you're playing a a deck without taunts, hard removal or any way to block this you kinda deserve to be smacked by the 🅱️ancient one once in a while
I think the high cost/bad stats on Denathrius was a deliberate choice, the effect makes your deck more consistent but also add a deadcard to it, kinda like Genn and Baku.
@Abdullah Orhan I was honestly surprised that Trump didn't think about it and instead proposed to not make it "bad stats for the cost", especially after repeatedly saying that the effect is strong.
Because its really unfun to draw Baku. I mean a lot of hs players are haha aggro, but drawing Baku turn 1/2 sucks even in odd Warrior because you could never play the card and if you could you probably lost.
9:57 holy hell Jens. That scared me shitless!
“It was” as a 1 mana 2 mana 3 mana would probably work out better imo, keeps the 6 mana but backloads it so the location discovery isn’t a MASSIVE tempo swing as well as an easy combo initiator
The "it was..." card may have 1 mana cost for the first card, two for the weapon part and 3 for the location... minions tends to be worst than weapons, and locations are more reliable than both
Actually a pretty solid idea here. I originally had the card attached to a minion battlecry. It was a detective that if a certain amount of minions died it added It Was… to your hand. Balance wise I think it was better but I didn’t like the detective minion so much as it felt like just a copy of Murloc Holmes so I opted for increasing the cost of all the steps by one and just having It Was.. be it’s own card. This would have been a much better way of balancing the separate cards.
@@bionicdoor we cant have murloc holmes, but we still can use frogwatson haha
@@leonardoleite9305 trueeeeee! Missed opportunity there
My favorite series! Hope it sticks around this time!
cant wait to see what custom cards he's going to show next week
Maybe one way to buff "It was/With the/In the" without making it a bunch of cheap rogue spells would be to decrease the cost of the discovered cards by 1 instead? Seems less dangerous.
why not just make the card 3/4 cost and bunch all the discoveries?
some card already did multiple discoveries all at once, so no problem here.
@@VidaDeSims you kind of lose the whole flavor in that case, here you play "It was..." to discover a minion, "With the..." to discover a weapon and "In the..." to discover a location, making a nice little story of "This guy killed the victim with this thing at this place", which you uncover step by step. If you bunch the discovers together, you just discover a minion, a weapon and a location but the whole story idea gets lost.
Maybe make it so you get the next spell after playing the discovered card?
To be fair 1 cost discover 1 is pretty standard
@@likky1 and 3 cost discover 3 is op op
If we made “It Was…” 1-mana, maybe it should also be a legendary spell. Since the design fits with the set so well, making it Legendary would make sense
It also ties in well with the reference, since in Clue(do) each player can only make an accusation once.
i'd also potentially make it discover a legendary minion, so you aren't accusing the wisp.
Good point about Rock Bottom being used just to run 29 card decks. Makes me picture a card that just reads "Start of game: Destroy this and another random card from your deck."
Interesting! But that one doesn't really make your deck more consistent the way a smaller deck normally might, because it could just as easily destroy the best card in your deck as the worst one.
@@Phagocytosis Nah it will make it more consistent. But only as a 29 card deck not 28. Assuming you don't draw through all your cards then there is no difference between a random card getting destroyed and putting a random card on the bottom of your deck (which is what happens in every normal game).
@@TheDcac Oh, I suppose you're right! Since it also deletes itself. Good point!
That said, I remember that argument from when Trump was defending Fel Reaver, and he was right in principle, but of course in practice, fatigue was reached more often than Trump figured. Still, that's probably not the case with a card that just deletes two cards once. Or at least to a far smaller degree.
Hell yeah got two 5 star designs in a row! I’m the pyramad dude
Noice
The Getting over it with Bennett Foddy soundtrack... Brings back memories, TERRIBLE MEMORIES
The background music this week got me so relaxed... in the mood to casually discuss some custom cards
I think there's a lot of room to develop the inept fortuneteller idea into other cards. Eg you could have one that draws a card, and then the turn afte reveals its cost and then the next turn reveals it. Or as a little quest draw two cards and then complete objectives (play/kill a minion, cast x spells) to reveal them. Neat idea that though!
Excited Visitor's name and artwork would fit much better, if he summoned a copy of your enemies location with one duration, because of the pictures he took while visiting.
Wouldn't the flipped over cards from Inept Fortuneteller imply not only could you not see your cards, but that the opponent could see the two you draw?
I think Excited Visitor actually has flavour since he "captures" locations with his camera.
Inquisitor Fairbanks shall for sure have a "Battlecry:" part before the infuse one, otherwise it's ridiculous, your hand just summons minions out of nowhere...
Also, Inept Fortuneteller is making deck traker a game changing software as if new Murlock Holmes wasn't enough
The wording isn't very good and should probably be docked a design point, unless it is intended to summon them from hand (which is completely broken). It should probably read: Infuse (5): Gain 'Battlecry: Summon the minions that infused this'.
@@TheMirksta gain is not needed since infuse means gain lmao
@@manu_j_??? There is an infuse minion in the set that reads 'Infuse: Gain +2/+2'. Infuse doesn't mean 'gain' , it means 'when this card is in your hand and X minions die, add this effect to your card'. That real card will get buffed in your hand, so the implication of this custom card is that it will trigger the summon from hand, or not at all. For spells it is different but for a minion you need to clarify that it is a battlecry, or deathrattle, or whatever it may be, otherwise who knows what triggers it?
@@TheMirksta that's why only the Word 'battlecry' Is needed...
@@manu_j_ But if the card that gets bonus stats says gain, why shouldn't this card? If infuse means gain, that card would say 'Infuse: +2/+2.'
Droplet of madness is a two card combo that requires you have 5 minions die (up to 10 if you need to have them in your hand) to have a 10 mana 30/30. I'm not exactly sure how Infuse works, if it's like corrupt where it reveals the effect happening to the opponent and you need to have it in your hand, but idk if that would solve the new player issue.
I feel like a lot of people are looking too much into the combo aspect and forget how bonkers a 5 mana 9/9 is.
yeah, thats still an issue, one that would probably be fixed by the 1 mana nerf proposed in the video
10:20 I think the balance is more "top-heavy" if you know what I'm saying
Well I like guys with big packages if you catch my drift ;)
One change i would make to "It was" would be to give you the next card "with the" at the start of your next turn instead of right away so you cant do them all at once that would balance it being 1 mana
TRUMP I LOVE YOU! Any more Marvel Snap vids coming out?
A 5 mana 9/9 being considered overpowered in this day and age seems weird. You are rarely happy when you play a Giant for 5 mana and a Giant with +1/+1 isn't that much better either.
I think Ur'zul Giant is the closest comparison. If 5 minions die it costs 8, but it doesn't have to be in your hand while that's happening, so that's probably about the same. I think there might be a minion that gets +1/1 in your hand every time a friendly minion dies? I can't remember what it's called though. I agree that Trump is probably overvaluing the card either way.
wow that last card has such incredible flavor I LOVE IT
Love the use of Dayum Drops on that Rouge Card.
Pyramad the partier death rattle text should say "Turn into Disco Floor!" As it is now it could mean that it turns into a random location.
The cool thing about Pyramad the Partier here is that it has benefit even if you bypass the battlecry. That's a problem some recent big deck stuff has, you cheat it out, but lose some of the benefit (due to no battlecry), but this still has the insane deathrattle, so if IT gets cheated out, it's still really valuable.
Thank God these are back. One of my favorite series
Yeah, i remember that "feast or famine" type, that just spring question "who the hell thought it's a good idea?". Like the card that destroy opponent's armour regardless of how much he saved. Just for a heck of it. And honourable mention for the card that convert all your life into armour leaving you with 1 hp. Ah, that card will probably be in ecstasy seeing all that armour being destroyed.
Real estate agent, Jens is a man of culture lol
One thing that might help with the "It was..." problem of quickly adding cards from another class to your hand is changing the starting card a bit.
My idea was to make it along the lines of "Discover a minion that killed another minion this game. Add "With the..." to your hand." I believe that this would not harm the flavor in any way (you are discovering a murderer after all) and would probably discourage very early usage of the card since your opponent might not have killed any minions on turn one or two (meaning you waste one mana on starting turns and the starting card itself) and if you kill any minions yourself, you are adding a minion from your own class to your hand which negates the problem as well.
Maybe if that would still not be enough, the starting card could be kept at 2 mana and the rest at 1 mana, or the follow up cards could be added to your hand at the end of the turn.
I already know I'm gonna think these cards exist when the expansion drop
That cluedo rogue card design is so cool, definetly something that would get me to play thief rogue.
I don't know much about tarot reading, but doesn't it usually require drawing 3 cards from the deck? If I'm correct then Inept Fortuneteller might have slightly better flavour if it drew 3 cards (obviously the cost and stats would be needed to be adjusted).
I mean... Inept?
Yes she sucks at it lol
So close on the 3/3 location tech
I feel like droplet of madness is fine, any control deck should be able to deal with a vanilla big stat minion, and an aggro or combo deck will most likely kill you by the time you get both cards, activate them, then get 10 mana and spend the turn playing a big guy, and even if they haven't killed you by your "turn 10: do nothing" they could put down a taunt
An extra wrinkle that could be a part of flipped over cards is that you could have it so they face the opponent. Would be funny to watch an opponent play around a card they know about which tips you off to what they are or maybe they could run the bluffs and get inside your head. The card would have to be balanced with that consideration, but I think it's a particularly cute way to literally interpret the card.
I'd change Excited Visitor to a 3 mana 3/3 "Target a Location, add a copy to your hand" maybe it costs 1 less, maybe it has reduced durability, but either way it keeps the theme of taking a picture of it and holding on to it
Edit: If being able to copy your own location and using multiple in a game is too overpowered then I'd limit it to just targeting an opponent's location
Inquisitor Fairbanks in wild would be crazy in big priest. Summon multiple big threats in one turn, get board wiped, then resummon them all for 8 mana instead of having to charge a spellstone or only 3 for 9 mana.
I don't play wild, but isn't 8 mana pretty late?
Yeah but he also stinks up your Blood of G'hun/shadow essence/resurrect pool. Much better to have lots of good smaller summons than have one big swing but lower the overall consistency of your summons.
Deathly Touch easy fix! Make it cost 1 mana originally, once infused, cost 0!
Obviously keeping the original effects too (destroy minion after infused)
Fitting that the Real Estate Agent has... huge tracts of land...
Maybe with the Rogue Spell it adds the next step of the Clue Mystery to your hand at the start of your next turn? Limits the gross things Rogue could do if it were 1 mana.
the last card is just brilliant
I was just watching a bunch of Trump's custom cards videos and then I see this uploaded 1 minute ago
Inept fortunteller is really funny. what i like about hearthstone is that they really test what can be done in a digital card game, I've noticed that a lot of online card games limit themselves by whats possible in paper.
Would Tamsin copy a transformed card or create an original copy of the card? Cause making deathly touch cost 1 would balance it nicely if it didn't copy the transformed card
The funny part is that Denathrius' effect is completely in-character for him.
Inept Fortuneteller couldn't work bc it would give the people using deck tracker an unfair advantage
I think Deathly Touch would be great at Infuse (6). Because of Life Tap, cheap conditional removal is much more powerful in Warlock than other classes. Moonfire is nearly playable on its own, so it doesn't need to infuse that often to become a viable deck inclusion.
Yes real estate agent has a very 5 star... design
15:06, it's Cluedo. It was Mrs. White, with the Gun, In the Kitchen.
Unsure how to value infuse... Needing to have it in hand is historically poor unless the cards feed off each other. (such as naga mage with spells and naga tribals) I feel like the mechanics might only find a home in zoo/swarm decks long term.
Which to be fair, every archetype revealed so far for the set is board based; evolve, deathrattle druid, skeleton mage, dude paladin, self damage warrior.
So I think they'll at least try to make every class have functional infuse cards.
Corridor creeper flashbacks.
I would redesign excited visitor to "inconsiderate tourist" which would be "destroy a location" instead because that's in flavor haha
Doesn't Inquisitor Fairbanks immediately resurrect the minions upon the infusion since it doesn't say battlecry?
I imagine it's a similar situation to combo
@@guacopera259 Combo distinctly activates you when play the card though, Infuse activates directly in the hand, as seen with the ones that gain stats. They are effective immediately. It's also the same wording used on corrupt witch also triggers in hand.
I think the creator just missed it from the text
Am I tripping or did you change the thumbnails of the last two cusom hearthstone vids?
Deck tracker would break inept fortuneteller, right?
Maybe "it was" should go 1 2 and 3 mana
As if taking the revelation in steps
That's still 6 mana for 3 cards, way too much, meanwhile thoughtsteal is 2 mana for 2 cards, there's also 2 mana add two spells in rogue too.
It's generally accepted that discovering a card can only be 1 mana effect, anything ever that was printed for 2 mana, like paladin's 2 mana ''Discover a minion, give it +1/+1'' was always unplayable, even with added small benefits.
And if getting 3 cards proves to be just too much for 3 mana, put it at 4, have it be 1/1/2 and be done with it, there's really no reason to insist on 1/2/3, 3/2/1, 1/1/1 or 2/2/2 for flavor reasons. Flavor should be in the card itself, not in the cost you pay for it, that's just it, cost that should balance it for game purposes.
I think inept fortune teller has a major problem is that it doesn’t have a downside if you have a deck tracker. Because the use would be able to see what cards were removed from their deck. I don’t know what blizzard’s stance on trackers are, but considering many streamers use them I doubt they care. But a card that says “battle cry: become utterly overpowered if you have a deck tracker” shouldn’t be printed so long as deck trackers are a thing.
There are decktrackers that only show hou information you can know.
I think that last card is SO in flavor they should have made it a neutral spell. I know there isn't neutral spells, but there is a first time for everything like the first neutral weapon. You can also make it a 3 mana card that discover all 3 options to avoid 1 man spell shenanigans and avoid curve shenanigans. Also, if you want to nerf it a bit more you could make it to where the opponent sees the card. It's in flavor since you are announcing the culprit.
Never thought I'd see Trump "Hold on, I'm fighting the Lich King" ogling Real Estate Agent
You could pair Inept Fortuneteller with Sir Finley and get cheap way of getting more cards that you know what they actually does :)
I feel like Deathly Touch isn't even THAT egregious. It is quite a bit better than Shiver Their Timbers! in Pirate Warrior when it is ACTIVE, but it takes A LOT more work to get there.
It's a card you pretty much HAVE to open with for it to be live at a decent time which means you are effectively down a card several turns which could make activating it that much more difficult. If this is in your hand that means it isn't another minion that could be used to Infuse it which is the problem I feel A LOT of Infuse cards will have similar to Corrupt.
I really like how the trump card of the week is just a blatant reference to Cluedo. It's not nearly as good for those who don't get the reference... but I love it.
It's not like that's unthinkable in hearthstone, the Elwynn Boar
for example isn't nearly as fun for those who don't know the south park episode it references.
There are probably two good reasons real estate agent was voted up
I don't remember where I posted it, maybe in last weeks custom hearthstone video, but I had a very similar idea to the "It was....." card here except I said just make it a Questline for Rogue. They've brought hero cards back for singular classes so I didn't see an issue with only Rogue getting a Questline.
I didn't exactly say what the "tasks" would be, but my idea would've been first reward is "It was...." where you discover a legendary minion from another class (Dragon's Hoard pretty much). The next part would've been "In the...." where you simply discover a location from another class. The final reward would've obviously been "With the....", but since it was a Questline I felt it to be fair that instead of a weapon something more powerful like a Kazakusan treasure would've been an appropriate enough reward compared to a random weapon from another class as doing ALL that work to get a 7 mana Gorehowl is just....terrible.
Obviously it could be something else on that power level or if it WAS a treasure you'd "omit" options that don't make sense flavor wise such as Wax Rager falling more into murder"er" territory than murder "weapon".
What do you mean having less cards is a good thing??? 40 cards is op right now!!!11!1 /s
They should print a card called Drathan Nake that is a throwback to Harrison Jones except he destroys a location.
Inept Fortuneteller is cool but gets Ruined by deck tracker because you'll know what cards you've drawn.
The Inept Fortuneteller card might be too strong at 2 mana, but I like the idea of drawing more than 1 card.
I think drawing 1 card would be too weak especially because I imagine the cards would be visible to your opponent while flipped over. If you’re holding a powerful board clear, they will get that information and can play around the cards in hand.
The card is definitely too strong at 2 manna, so maybe it just needs to be upped in mana and stats. It’s a 2/2 for 2 so why not a 3/3 for 3? Or a 4/4 for 4? Tweak it until it’s appropriate for its cost. The effect is really cool though.
I was hesitant too but considering card draw isn't too strong on priest (albeit out of flavour) and we already have 2 mana draw two, the first change I'd be inclined to make would be turn it into a 1/2.
If you draw Rock Bottom in your mulligan, it would get yoinked from your hand at the start of the game, right? Meaning 1 in 15 games or so, you would start with one less card. That by itself makes the card not worth playing IMO, it more than offsets the increased consistency of playing a 29 card deck.
4:00 I feel like that at 5 mana wouldn't be busted as a 9/9 as it would basically have to be in hand turn 1 and still have token combo things for the turn 5 play but also warlock has the 4 mana summon a demon with stats equal to your hand and that really isn't busted despite often being on curve and just a 4 mana 9/9
And then Pyramad turned himself into a location. Funniest shit I've ever seen.
Fortune teller seems fun but with deck trackers it’s basically just draw 2
Droplet of Madness doesn't seem completely out of line to me. We have combos that can kill you before 10, and this seems unlikely to come down by 10 all that often (you need to draw both and then get five things to die after doing that). A 10-mana combo that requires some lucky draws and setup has been allowed to OTK you in the past, so I don't really see why one being able to generate a massive threat that will kill you next turn if not deal with isn't okay.
"Imp Tour Group" Battlecry: destroy an enemy location.
You should make a video talking about real hearthstone cards, and ranking them in terms of how well designed they are
Trump: 5 mana 9/9 is op
Dark alley pact: Am I a joke to you?
Denathrius also has a huge issue that it makes the mirrors even MORE volatile than they already are. Aggro mirrors already are super coin flippy and snowball out of control by whoever secures the board first and this just exacerbates the problem.
Rogue MIGHT be able to maybe win back a board right now by drawing Gnoll or whatever and playing it on turn 3 or 4, but if both players are at 20 the Rogue might have already taken 6 damage (30% of their health) by JUST a 1 mana 2/2 by that point and be on death's door no matter what they do.
In a Denathrius Mirror (heh) I would almost guarantee the stats are UNBELIEVABLY skewed towards the winner of the coin toss at like 70-30 or better. You are pretty much always going to be able to win in a race especially since your deck will be consistent enough to find some amount of reach over the top. DH for example probably just wins most games on turn 5 after playing for board/burn turns 1-4 to get you into Arcanite Reaper range.
I think deck size should be optional with at least 30 and renathal should give you 40 if you have at least 40. Maybe have the limit at 60 or so because the deck can only have a certain number in a match
The excited visitor sound like it could be fun if it was USE an enemy location rather than STEAL
Damn, Damn, Damn … thank you for the laugh
There should be a common minion which has battlecry effect to destroy a location.
I think "It was..." Could be turned into a guest line card if one mana rogue card is too scary.
You know what? They should make it a priest card. It Was... With the... In the... That's such an amazing card, and it wouldn't be a problem. Divination fits their theme as well, and some card generation would actually be great for Priest.
It Was is an incredibly cool concept, I just wish it wasn't yet another rng card generator
I pitch this idea often but a pacthwerk or stiches neutral card. 5 cost 5/8 Start of game: if all cards in your deck are neutral cards your health starts at 50. But now with this new 40 health card. Idk lol
I think people are underestimating how easy infuse is
Gunna need r34 on Real Estate Agent
11:20 Man, it'd be messed up if they printed a 3 mana 2/2 draw 2 in a set. Especially in a set close to Nathria.
The one thing i think is that the starting health being 20 was kinda glossed over unfairly, since it means an aggro deck that doesn't run it most likely wins that matchup, and you have less wiggle room if you do miss the cards you need. personally, as someone who plays a renathal control mage, i think it'd be neat to see a 20/20 opponent, since i will most likely outlast them. but the consistency that 20 cards brings is strangulating. I played Duel Links, players pretty much always had the cards they wanted in their starting hands. comparing to a third card game, for magic the gathering, there is a major difference in consistency between a 60 card deck and an 80 card deck. before i understood the concept of deck consistency i played an 80 card mono-red deck. it was abysmal. once i shaved down to 60 it actually performed semi-reasonably. i also just sucked at deck building at the time, which certainly didn't help.
the "It Was" "With the" "in the" i think the first part should be discover a legendary minion from another class, so you don't get instances of "it was the wisp", which just feels bizzare to me. If you really want to get deep with that, you could make it the other 9 suspects this set has. So my example would be "it was Kryxis the Voracious, With the Warglaives of Azinoth, in the Hedge maze". I don't think that is necessary strictly speaking, but could be a neat little tweak.
Better version of Excited Visitor is Harison Jones that gains armor per durability of Location destroyed . Hypeeeeee
IT WAS ZILLIAX, WITH GOREHOWL, IN THE MAIN HALL
So what I got from this is that *deck* size does in fact matter...
I'm not even convinced that "start on the bottom of your deck" is balanced if the card says "When drawn, destroy your hero"
Deathly Touch might be more interesting as "Infuse (X): Deal X damage to a minion"
Excited Visitor could just read "Battlecry: Apply the effect of all enemy Locations" (it'd be allowed to target one thing when cast)
I agree with the card of the week but perhaps Shuffle it into the deck I stead of having it go back to hand.
9:55 ZAMN