Imagine u just started playing ranked. Your learned your combos you a ready to go and than you meet TheMainMan with his Tekken god prime Kazuya on beginner ranks using you as a Tutorial for youtube xD
I just realized i faught a Kazuya player following this exact advice lol. I thought they came from SF because they seemed to know defense with zero offense but I guess they were just hoping I'd run up and kill myself 😂
I've been preaching that to my viewers for years, I think it's because I'm a little older as well though, I was always taught to give credit where it's due
Right at the very beginning of the video he literaly said not to try and play well if they are a beginner, but if you belive them to not be a beginner then play normal Tekken, which is exactly what he did with like one exception
@@bonfist7277 apparently when I do this as a new Victor player I'm the literal salt of the earth and should kill myself. :v Or at least that's been the tone of quite a few post match messages I've gotten. :/
Never understood the hate for beginners. People act like the first time they played a fighting game they were high level gods. Everyone starts somewhere. I commend TMM on his constructive comments and even occasional praise of newer players.
I can't say how good this advice was. I have never played any version of Tekken before and just picked up Tekken 8. Did my first ever match online as Yoshimitsu against Azucena after doing story as Yoshi. I had absolutely no idea what to do as she was running circles round me. But I just patiently waited, blocked, and looked at what I could do. No button spam. Lost the first two rounds but then won the final three by seeing where I could attack her in her spam. I'm still rubbish but you were spot on. 10/10 thank you for the advice!
How to actually play Kazuya vs low ranks: - df2 at round start and whenever you want - spam ff2 and auto electric - db4 and hellsweep whenever its your turn and you think they are freezing - try always to use 112(hit confirm the 2) as a block punish - Spam your 1+2 throw, especially after heat engagers or heat dashes( on block) - sprinkle in low jab into WS1+2 If you feel pressured - Use f2 or activate heat against pressure as well - if you get a knockdown spam ff4 multiple times to check if they techroll - Just once or twice per match use uf4444 - Learn 1 easy reliable combo and wallcombo - Have fun
idk, I always prefer fighting against as many different players using different characters as possible rather than refight the same guy over and over. Win or lose, never rematch, just go straight to the next one.
@LonesomeSparrow7 I think fighting someone a 2nd or 3rd time is good, because any lesson you learnt in the 1st might be reinforced and learnt even more. Also some my most fun fights so far have been on the rematch after getting beaten. Even if I lose again, if I take 1 or 2 rounds more it feels like progress
Honestly I think it would be so Cool to the see the whole rank up process like this here on youtube. Would be super unique to see some one as good as you through the ranks explainging at different ranks what to look out for. Great job!
Thank you, main man. Too many people in the community are coaching people wrong. Telling them to try to play like a TGO at 1dan, telling them to mind their frames and learn kbd, and they lose their minds when I tell them to do what they get away with at their level. You can't go from 1dan to TGO is one step by imitation. It's a progression. Today's winning strat is tomorrow's bad habit. No shortcut.
This is so TRUE!! I took that advice when I first started playing Tekken 7 three years ago and I just got absolutely obliterated by people in the low ranks spamming all their strings and gimmicks.
@@bruhmoment8326 I disagree a little bit. On the one hand, yeah you can spam B2,4 and dickjab ws1+2 and pummel the brainlets to death, I suppose that teaches you what it feels like when the other guy is against the ropes, but on the other hand you can at least maintain spacing and hit them with demon paws and things like that, something that will translate to higher ranks better. Getting started in T6 I would do 1,2,4 and then df2 into counter hit, and would get big launch damage in scrub ranks but then hit the wall in yellow and didn't understand. Or I thought the whole game was about how fast you can whip out your electrics and that just got me to the point where when it connected it was great, but when it didn't I got destroyed. One could foster flowcharting instead of playing this game consciously
God damn... this was an incredible watch! it's amazing how TMM understands the mindset of new players and commentating during the match is just icing on the cake.
After that Hwoarang landed the final blow at 25:54, the following silence and your facial expression told me that you were about to ruin this guy’s day with the next round… lol and you definitely did not disappoint
@@kylespevak6781 thats unbelieveble. I start to playing Kazuya like 2 or 3 months and still struggling with eletrics, they are hard to do. You never play tekken and you already can do it? Crazy
hey main man, I started playing the game about five mounths ago and I'm maining kazuya and it's been so difficult but your videos help me alot and it's so fun seeing a pro kazuya in action
It's a long journey. He has a couple quality of life improvements in this game but he's still sorely lacking a 15f easymode standing launcher, pokes, and now a long range punisher.
@@Dallas4090 I will say FF2 makes fighting cheese backsway characters a lot easier now. Trying to fight Feng in T7 was absolute aids because you had no safe, deep striking mid to deal with his backsway bullshit. F+3 was even slower, and that's all you had as an option select.
an idea for a coaching series with guests from chat/content creators, 1 on 1 sessions & how they can improve at that certain rank blue, green orange ranks
This was super interesting to watch from a beginners perspective. Probably would have smashed my controller if I was on the receiving end but I wasn’t so it was fun
I just want say thanks to you and max. I used to be very casual with fighting games especially tekkan but last year i wanted to try to actually get decent at a fighting so i bought tekkan 7 with all its dlc around this time last year and I feel in love with it. I can’t wait to get T8 and transfer everything Ive learned
Hey MainManSWE, love the videos, had to say that I found your how to coaching series very enlightening and it changed the way that I view and play Tekken, I originally gotten to the middle of the orange ranks with Ling but felt as if I only really got there because not many people that I fought seemed to know the match up or just can't block her DF 3. I picked up Jin after watch your eight minute video about him with a focus of fundamentals and practicing what you talked about having a game plan in mind and waiting to see what my opponent is doing and I've noticed improvements in my own game play, that and 1 3 4 with Jin is a scrub killer in the beginner ranks, people blowing their load when they have heat etc, gotten some plugs and people that don't rematch. But overall I am loving Tekken hope I get to play some matches with you at some point. Thanks again MainMan.
As a newcomer to fighting games, this is probably the most enlightening tutorial video on YT. Like, seriously, just showing how powerful simple 2 to 3 hit combos are against other low players showed me how I've been approaching my beginner matches all wrong.
Tip for Asuka players in low rank. Please start with parry move. As soon as you hear that "Fight" sound press parry and thank me for free dmg. People in low ranks start mashing quick moves as soon as round starts Edit: Ok obviously dont start EVERY round with it. Just one of the three rounds you play against opponents. 60% of the players start mashing 1,2 as soon as round starts and they will get parried, those who dont start with it and see you parry, forget that it lasts for about 2 seconds. They wait a bit then try to hit you and still get parried. Obviously this will not work in high levels
I even saw a yellow Asuka parry after every hit but that okay style doesn’t go far It’s just easy to smash them when you know they’re about to do hit Hit them parry. Hit them parry. A yellow Asuka is the same except they just hop kick when you go low Then they go back to the parry when you start to play normal
I'd recommend against this because this will become a bad habit and if someone is smart or cautious they will see you parry and can punish accordingly or atleast do a big attack that'll hit hard
@@falconofthenight008i agree. ive seen enough asukas at ryujin who were complete booty because they spammed parry like this even at that level. it will be worse since u cant chicken so itll likely be a bad habit for a lot of asukas
Like a few other player said here, don't do this. Parry is awesome if they punch or kick into it, but you can easily get hit low, or unbreakable grabbed out of it. Even low rank players will figure that out eventually.
This really helped me out with Lili, was trying to do combos with her when all my opponents were doing was spamming moves, after watching this video I decided to spam Lili’s moves and it really helped, I got to brawler rank with a 17 win streak.
@@riastradhFr Drag has been my Tekken character rival for Part 8. Once I got caught by his snakeedge once I was at the results screen lmao. Its been real fun
As a completely new tekken player, I'll mention the arcade quest mode actively teaches you to string heat engage into heat smash early on and really never goes deep into the benefits of heat.
Thank you for the advice! Spammers can be really demoralizing. As a beginner though, I'm worried that if I just use these two moves to cut through the low ranks, suddenly I'll be at high ranks where this no longer works, but I'll be playing against players who are so much better than me that it will be difficult to learn because I'm getting absolutely blasted because all I know how to do is two moves that don't work anymore. Would it not make more sense to try and learn your fundamentals and implementation of your good moves at a lower rank where you aren't going to be crushed for being kind of bad at it?
Personally, I think if you know the fundamentals well enough to utilize "2" safe moves, then you are probably decent in general. I think that the 2 moves technique is good for just getting wins against spammers. Against regular players, I think it's better to play how you normally play.
You can and that's how I got better but it will take a long time and you'll have to have a good mindset when doing this because trust me, you will get absolutely obliterated. You will have to approach every match with the goal of learning something new and test what moves that your opponent does is punishable. To test if it is, use your fastest attack that your character has which in the case for Kazuya, it's 112 which comes out at 10 frames. When it is punishable, start experimenting with other moves in your arsenal that come out even slower to see if you can get an even more damaging punish. This is the approach I took but it will take time and only with experience will you eventually get much better at the game.
That's when you start learning how to get better, these two moves are just a starting point and an example of how you can play. You add more moves and tactics later
Honestly this is better than a formal tutorial video. I'll try swallow my fear and hit ranked with Asuka (don't hate me). I think it would be worthwhile to redo the series for the next wave of begginners and intermediates when the "more seasoned" players filter through.
This is great. My biggest issue with the game right now is actually finding opponents in ranked. Takes so long. And when i do, it makes losing feel really bad.
Good video. Cracks me up that 20 minutes of it is good advice for a beginner and the rest is, "yeah i have to play normal." Sums up the online rank experience.
This lesson about adapting to the level you’re facing and focusing on simple and effective setups is really sinking in, as someone who defaults to trying to replicate a semi high level looking playstyle but can end up eating shit to beginners. Thanks
Even with the frustration of lower rank spam, there’s so much in this game I’m having so much fun regardless Crouch jab and focusing on punishes makes lower ranks good practice. Then there’s learning king’s throws…
I also go into Tekken like TMM, like a noble teacher… who drops 3 rounds while thinking I still have that advantage then is forced to mash if they want to see tomorrow I’m at orange atm but it’s just sad how quickly my calm and studious mentality is turned into 50/50 fiending Part of what makes these guides hard to follow is that you also know when to block and when to interrupt A player that doesn’t know what’s coming might feel forced to press buttons if a low has got them in the past It’s not so easy to know when you can afford to be patient
Everyone saying TMM is bullying these spammers but really he's teaching them a valuable lesson. Spamming only gets you so far. Maybe he is actually saving people from continuing to spam?
@TrollFaceLaunch0 yeah maybe that was kinda mean how iworded that maybe you would've preferred I say they just keep going but it's OK to realize not everything is for everyone. If losing to someone better than you enough to make you stop then you probably don't have business messing with that thing. At least not seriously (ranked).
@@Ekim2F94I also think it’s lame af you can’t rank down until yellow ranks. They do shit like that to make noobs feel better, but once they realized the ranking system has been lying to them the whole time, what good is it for anyone? Stupid.
"We take the punish, into our beginner combo" - Which started with 3 dash EWGF's xd i feel so bad for this king, promotion and everything. For the greater good i suppose.
This is the first tekken I've gotten into, and I am really struggling to find content that is geared towards newer players beyond just Heat explanations. This has been so much more useful, and I hope that you continue this series. Probably doesnt help that I am trying to main Reina
I think a healthy way to progress is to play w some friends. If they do something u really can't grasp to punish or avoid, ask em about it. That or add ppl from casuals u find good, most ppl on PC are willing to talk
That Lili plays a lot like I do, to the point where I could predict the moves she was gonna throw out a few times. Hearing TMM compliment her gave me 2nd hand confidence boost lol
Thx to your video there was attack of Kazuya clones trying to mimick your play style. I didn't have to worry about hellsweeps when climbing rank with June. Got to Shinryu with her. 😁
I totally agree with the point about players that pick certain characters seem to only be interested in people getting blown up by their main flows. Sometimes even when i got beaten, because i didnt go down easily, they wouldnt rematch! Its just soo crazy to me! How are u going to get better if u only play people u can just blow up easily?? I mean even if you're just playing for fun! Well you're not playing for fun if u do that in my opinion, your playing to try and show off to people that dont understand Tekken... the 'my rank is the only thing that matters' players , I think anyone that understands about tekken knows that rank does not tell the whole story at all.
1:01:30 not sure if TMM realizes but the arcade quest teaches you the heat burst + heat smash as the very first combos. as a noob myself it took me a while to realize i should prolly try to use heat a little more efficiently, but thats why so many do it i imagine.
Lmao bro seeing Kaz wavu wavu must be terrifying as a beginner. That's one of those things that alone shows the player is skilled even for those who probably don't even know what it is.
OK as a filthy new player this was wonderful. I was always looking for a pattern, always looking for a constant opening, but there wasn't one it's as random as when I push buttons. Blocking really is the smartest thing to do at this level.
I only got to Grand Master in Tekken 7. I've gotten to Warrior in Tekken 8 but it felt kind of free because I wasn't losing points. Now that I'm at Warrior the real test begins.
I felt like it was free as well. Even now I feel like the people I play against are way ahead of me, to the point I don’t even understand how they lose to me sometimes lol
Warrior in Tekken 8 is the Brawler of Tekken 7. The green rank struggle now is the yellow rank struggle, at least for the first weeks. Not hitting Brawler in Tekken 7 means, that you are a big beginner, that lacks some completly basic concept, which is holding you back.
That Lili let you get away with murder. He hesitated when you wave dashed in his face constantly instead of punishing you for it. He's crazy patient though.
Can you please comment on TAA? Providing more Anti-Aliasing options in the games settings would allow for better game clarity during motion. It is my hope that increased awareness about this will help grease the wheels and help make Tekken an even better product for us all to enjoy
Hope he uploads his Rejna ranked play, I made the mistake of subbing during the special style Jin it was absolute comedy but he was never going to see it.
Talking about how beginners play this is the exact same thing in actual martial arts, by the way, just turned up to eleven. Non-fighters will throw themselves at you and leave openings immediately if you just counter or defend their initial (horrendously bad) attacks.
Main man is right in that you don't need to play high level tekken to get through the lower levels. But if you rank up only using the spammable strings or moves, you won't be learning the skills you need to be a good player
The name of this video should just be “why sidestepping is important” Do another video going through the ranks doing the same thing without sidestepping and see how far you get it would be interesting to see
It's nice when Kaz is at least B tier and the netcode is decent. I got my feet wet in the disaster that was Tekken 6 netcode with 2010 wifi warriors with the weakest Mishimas ever lol
K so from what I got from this is to spam a certain move that kills scrubs and if that doesn't work turn into a pro player and electric 5 times in a row, got it 👌
Nice, exactly what I need. I finished all PvE content and it's a reality shick to play ranked, people nowadays TRAIN before playing even the beginner ranks, it kinda kills the old days fun of playing fighting games on arcades (yeah, I'm old, I played MK1 and SF2 in the arcades).
I'm having trouble with the opposite where I spend too much time in practice mode and then have no practical knowledge on how to use anything I learned on my opponent
My main issue is getting use to the Heat System and utilizing it like you should…. Haven’t played Tekken since TTT2 so my head space is still on bound moves lol the Rage Art is not that big ac deal to me but even seeing how people can really apply pressure in Heat or extended combos with it I main Leo and be trying to do Tag 2 combos with her still lol
Managed to reach Mighty Ruler with Jin toward the end of T7's run before getting completely annoyed and settling, but so far I've been making steady progress in T8. My way is know your character, be unpredictable, practice optimizing combos, and know your opponent. It's one thing to know the opponent's character but remaining calm and studying/anticipating their tactics during the match is another. Never play when feeling tired or irritatable, drink water, take breaks regularly, and put fun over all else. Most importantly, stay humble. You won't be on top of the mountain all the time and if you're on a losing streak, then its best to step back acknowledge what it is you could be doing wrong.
That's so true. Also don't get frustrated over your opponent. Rather stay focused on what you could have done better and go into replay and tips and look at certain situations. View every match as something you can improve on. At least that's what I try to set my mindset too improve.
@@mrpotato7734 as tmm said spam a move I think on Jin u could get out of green ranks only using your b2,1 and d2 the db2,2,1? String or whatever input it was is also nice than maybe put the hell sweep into the mix if u struggle.
I remember in old tekken games the lee AI on ultra hard will do this seemingly infinite string that will poke you low mid and high and now here i am watching veteran player calling it some rookie stuff. I feel so stupid right now but at least now i get it
how about a series zero to hero, where you grab a beginner watch a few of his matches and we follow his progression to the top, with tips etc ( i volunteer as tribute :) )
It's cool how TMM can simply point mistakes an opponent is making instead of making fun of them. Like, he can spam b+2,4 and win the match and he doesn't call his opponent trash like some streams (*cough LowTierGod cough*), he says his opponent simply doesn't understand that the string is super safe and correct response is to duck.
Imagine u just started playing ranked. Your learned your combos you a ready to go and than you meet TheMainMan with his Tekken god prime Kazuya on beginner ranks using you as a Tutorial for youtube xD
hahaha
I met his reina, got one round off him then got double perfected i think😂
I just realized i faught a Kazuya player following this exact advice lol. I thought they came from SF because they seemed to know defense with zero offense but I guess they were just hoping I'd run up and kill myself 😂
then proceed to get spammed on like in the video.. 💀
This is exactly the type of luck I have in ranked 😂
A complete series on ranked from beginner to tekken god prime would be awesome
I dont think theres any real Tekken God Primes yet. Most are boosters
Tekken god prime doesn't exist in T8 😂
The highway is tekken god of destruction I think it’s called shit looks dope
@@Dallas4090 there are two legit ones
What’s the point of videos on each rank? You’d rather spend your time watching videos on each character
its so refreshing to hear a streamer compliment their opponent when they do something well. Respect to TMM for setting a good example
I've been preaching that to my viewers for years, I think it's because I'm a little older as well though, I was always taught to give credit where it's due
He’s like the opposite of LTG 😂
@@notting2640im a fan of main man but he also has some very salty moments
@@lurkinlittlesquares6691yeah but those were quite awhile ago, I’d say he’s mellowed out
@@JLLullaby for sure
"Nothing tells you that I'm a high level player" wave dashing is a dead giveaway brother
yeah and its a clean wavedash not a janky one like an intermediate would do
Bro thinks he's on the team 💀
Or does a side step electric in full combo when he has a chance of losing.
His name, too... lol.😂😂😂😂
Right at the very beginning of the video he literaly said not to try and play well if they are a beginner, but if you belive them to not be a beginner then play normal Tekken, which is exactly what he did with like one exception
TMM: "Lower yourself to their level."
Me at the low level: "I see yes."
In other words, find a good set of strings and learn how to apply them optimally instead of mashing without purpose.
@@bonfist7277 apparently when I do this as a new Victor player I'm the literal salt of the earth and should kill myself. :v
Or at least that's been the tone of quite a few post match messages I've gotten. :/
@@remigusker6024victor is just too good rn not your fault
LOL
Never understood the hate for beginners. People act like the first time they played a fighting game they were high level gods. Everyone starts somewhere. I commend TMM on his constructive comments and even occasional praise of newer players.
Honestly its better to have beginner players than no players at all
I can't say how good this advice was. I have never played any version of Tekken before and just picked up Tekken 8. Did my first ever match online as Yoshimitsu against Azucena after doing story as Yoshi. I had absolutely no idea what to do as she was running circles round me. But I just patiently waited, blocked, and looked at what I could do. No button spam. Lost the first two rounds but then won the final three by seeing where I could attack her in her spam. I'm still rubbish but you were spot on.
10/10 thank you for the advice!
you picked the most party character, have fun and party hard. Remember, good Yoshi players make their opponents and themselves guess their every move
How to actually play Kazuya vs low ranks:
- df2 at round start and whenever you want
- spam ff2 and auto electric
- db4 and hellsweep whenever its your turn and you think they are freezing
- try always to use 112(hit confirm the 2) as a block punish
- Spam your 1+2 throw, especially after heat engagers or heat dashes( on block)
- sprinkle in low jab into WS1+2 If you feel pressured
- Use f2 or activate heat against pressure as well
- if you get a knockdown spam ff4 multiple times to check if they techroll
- Just once or twice per match use uf4444
- Learn 1 easy reliable combo and wallcombo
- Have fun
Don’t forget to spam d 1+2
this is unironically how i play kazuya now i feel like a real noob lmao
This is together with the comment of spamming d1+2 the perfect Kazuya beginner guide
Even better uf44 only for combo.
Big advice is to take the lose and rematch. Even if your going to lose the rematch take that match as a learning experience.
Thanks, jeff❤
idk, I always prefer fighting against as many different players using different characters as possible rather than refight the same guy over and over. Win or lose, never rematch, just go straight to the next one.
@@LonesomeSparrow7you probably aren’t learning much then, choose one or two characters and master them
@LonesomeSparrow7 I think fighting someone a 2nd or 3rd time is good, because any lesson you learnt in the 1st might be reinforced and learnt even more. Also some my most fun fights so far have been on the rematch after getting beaten. Even if I lose again, if I take 1 or 2 rounds more it feels like progress
@@LonesomeSparrow7but it's always a best of 3. You can't rematch someone over and over...
Honestly I think it would be so Cool to the see the whole rank up process like this here on youtube. Would be super unique to see some one as good as you through the ranks explainging at different ranks what to look out for. Great job!
The fact that he faced 2 Zafina is bonkers tbh
Thank you, main man.
Too many people in the community are coaching people wrong. Telling them to try to play like a TGO at 1dan, telling them to mind their frames and learn kbd, and they lose their minds when I tell them to do what they get away with at their level.
You can't go from 1dan to TGO is one step by imitation. It's a progression. Today's winning strat is tomorrow's bad habit. No shortcut.
This is so TRUE!! I took that advice when I first started playing Tekken 7 three years ago and I just got absolutely obliterated by people in the low ranks spamming all their strings and gimmicks.
@@bruhmoment8326 I disagree a little bit. On the one hand, yeah you can spam B2,4 and dickjab ws1+2 and pummel the brainlets to death, I suppose that teaches you what it feels like when the other guy is against the ropes, but on the other hand you can at least maintain spacing and hit them with demon paws and things like that, something that will translate to higher ranks better. Getting started in T6 I would do 1,2,4 and then df2 into counter hit, and would get big launch damage in scrub ranks but then hit the wall in yellow and didn't understand. Or I thought the whole game was about how fast you can whip out your electrics and that just got me to the point where when it connected it was great, but when it didn't I got destroyed. One could foster flowcharting instead of playing this game consciously
Starting to realise this after losing to people who don’t even use combos 😂
God damn... this was an incredible watch! it's amazing how TMM understands the mindset of new players and commentating during the match is just icing on the cake.
As a tekken beginner, i really appreciate the quality of the content and the teaching skills of TMMS. Keep it up!
After that Hwoarang landed the final blow at 25:54, the following silence and your facial expression told me that you were about to ruin this guy’s day with the next round… lol and you definitely did not disappoint
Beginner combo of 3 electrics😂 This was such an amazing tutorial, I'm a Reina player in yellow ranks so I'll take anything I can get!
This 😂😂 he was playing seriously on that King lol
To be fair, I've never played Tekken knowing what I'm doing, and got decently consistent EWGF playing Kazuya's character episode
@@kylespevak6781 you sure you are doing eletrics or WGF?
@@davidcunha01 Electric. They have different animations. I coukd chain 2 or 3
@@kylespevak6781 thats unbelieveble. I start to playing Kazuya like 2 or 3 months and still struggling with eletrics, they are hard to do. You never play tekken and you already can do it? Crazy
hey main man, I started playing the game about five mounths ago and I'm maining kazuya and it's been so difficult but your videos help me alot and it's so fun seeing a pro kazuya in action
It's a long journey. He has a couple quality of life improvements in this game but he's still sorely lacking a 15f easymode standing launcher, pokes, and now a long range punisher.
@@NYG5yea, everyone else has braindead launchers. I feel like im playing hardmode w/ Kazuya 😂. Im made it to red ranks though.
@@Dallas4090 I will say FF2 makes fighting cheese backsway characters a lot easier now. Trying to fight Feng in T7 was absolute aids because you had no safe, deep striking mid to deal with his backsway bullshit. F+3 was even slower, and that's all you had as an option select.
@@Dallas4090he feels very rewarding to play and win with him tho
an idea for a coaching series with guests from chat/content creators, 1 on 1 sessions & how they can improve at that certain rank blue, green orange ranks
This was super interesting to watch from a beginners perspective. Probably would have smashed my controller if I was on the receiving end but I wasn’t so it was fun
I just want say thanks to you and max. I used to be very casual with fighting games especially tekkan but last year i wanted to try to actually get decent at a fighting so i bought tekkan 7 with all its dlc around this time last year and I feel in love with it. I can’t wait to get T8 and transfer everything Ive learned
Hey MainManSWE, love the videos, had to say that I found your how to coaching series very enlightening and it changed the way that I view and play Tekken, I originally gotten to the middle of the orange ranks with Ling but felt as if I only really got there because not many people that I fought seemed to know the match up or just can't block her DF 3. I picked up Jin after watch your eight minute video about him with a focus of fundamentals and practicing what you talked about having a game plan in mind and waiting to see what my opponent is doing and I've noticed improvements in my own game play, that and 1 3 4 with Jin is a scrub killer in the beginner ranks, people blowing their load when they have heat etc, gotten some plugs and people that don't rematch. But overall I am loving Tekken hope I get to play some matches with you at some point. Thanks again MainMan.
As a newcomer to fighting games, this is probably the most enlightening tutorial video on YT.
Like, seriously, just showing how powerful simple 2 to 3 hit combos are against other low players showed me how I've been approaching my beginner matches all wrong.
Tip for Asuka players in low rank. Please start with parry move. As soon as you hear that "Fight" sound press parry and thank me for free dmg. People in low ranks start mashing quick moves as soon as round starts
Edit: Ok obviously dont start EVERY round with it. Just one of the three rounds you play against opponents. 60% of the players start mashing 1,2 as soon as round starts and they will get parried, those who dont start with it and see you parry, forget that it lasts for about 2 seconds. They wait a bit then try to hit you and still get parried. Obviously this will not work in high levels
I even saw a yellow Asuka parry after every hit but that okay style doesn’t go far
It’s just easy to smash them when you know they’re about to do hit
Hit them parry. Hit them parry.
A yellow Asuka is the same except they just hop kick when you go low
Then they go back to the parry when you start to play normal
I'd recommend against this because this will become a bad habit and if someone is smart or cautious they will see you parry and can punish accordingly or atleast do a big attack that'll hit hard
@@falconofthenight008i agree. ive seen enough asukas at ryujin who were complete booty because they spammed parry like this even at that level. it will be worse since u cant chicken so itll likely be a bad habit for a lot of asukas
Not a good habit
Like a few other player said here, don't do this. Parry is awesome if they punch or kick into it, but you can easily get hit low, or unbreakable grabbed out of it. Even low rank players will figure that out eventually.
I'm a complete noob, amd this kind of video is great. Hearing the mentality behind play helps a lot more than "use these combos".
This is basically what you said in tekken 7
I like that you go over it again for those that begin tekken 8 as a first ...
I remember these videos from Tag 2. Man time goes quick
What? Tag 1? He started RUclips with Tekken 5!
@legend0945 Sorry I meant tag2 lol. I just bought a tag 1 arcade cabinet so that was stuck in my head
This really helped me out with Lili, was trying to do combos with her when all my opponents were doing was spamming moves, after watching this video I decided to spam Lili’s moves and it really helped, I got to brawler rank with a 17 win streak.
Picked up Tekken 2 days ago. Playing Dragunov because he’s cool. I get beat by fast string Reina players. This was really good advice.
Here i am as a Reina who’s never beaten a Drag lmao
@@riastradhFr Drag has been my Tekken character rival for Part 8. Once I got caught by his snakeedge once I was at the results screen lmao. Its been real fun
Use back 4 2 1 , 1 2 1 and down back 4 (snake edge) as some early tools to help in the chaos
@@yugison it’s always fun when you see a low come at you in slow motion and suddenly you’re at the rematch screen
something about tmm only using b+2,4 and winning rounds is hilarious but really cool cuz it really shows how effective his coaching is
As a completely new tekken player, I'll mention the arcade quest mode actively teaches you to string heat engage into heat smash early on and really never goes deep into the benefits of heat.
Thank you for the advice! Spammers can be really demoralizing. As a beginner though, I'm worried that if I just use these two moves to cut through the low ranks, suddenly I'll be at high ranks where this no longer works, but I'll be playing against players who are so much better than me that it will be difficult to learn because I'm getting absolutely blasted because all I know how to do is two moves that don't work anymore. Would it not make more sense to try and learn your fundamentals and implementation of your good moves at a lower rank where you aren't going to be crushed for being kind of bad at it?
Personally, I think if you know the fundamentals well enough to utilize "2" safe moves, then you are probably decent in general. I think that the 2 moves technique is good for just getting wins against spammers. Against regular players, I think it's better to play how you normally play.
You can and that's how I got better but it will take a long time and you'll have to have a good mindset when doing this because trust me, you will get absolutely obliterated. You will have to approach every match with the goal of learning something new and test what moves that your opponent does is punishable. To test if it is, use your fastest attack that your character has which in the case for Kazuya, it's 112 which comes out at 10 frames. When it is punishable, start experimenting with other moves in your arsenal that come out even slower to see if you can get an even more damaging punish. This is the approach I took but it will take time and only with experience will you eventually get much better at the game.
That's when you start learning how to get better, these two moves are just a starting point and an example of how you can play. You add more moves and tactics later
Honestly this is better than a formal tutorial video. I'll try swallow my fear and hit ranked with Asuka (don't hate me).
I think it would be worthwhile to redo the series for the next wave of begginners and intermediates when the "more seasoned" players filter through.
This is great. My biggest issue with the game right now is actually finding opponents in ranked. Takes so long. And when i do, it makes losing feel really bad.
Idk even at 4am i'll find opponents in yellow Rank EU between 10-30 seconds
Its very cool how your theory about the lower ranks not knowing how to counter your simple combo was proven!
I'm a Zafina main, I've played abou 200 matches now, and haven't run into a single Zafina... And you run into two in your first ten matches!
Good video. Cracks me up that 20 minutes of it is good advice for a beginner and the rest is, "yeah i have to play normal." Sums up the online rank experience.
This lesson about adapting to the level you’re facing and focusing on simple and effective setups is really sinking in, as someone who defaults to trying to replicate a semi high level looking playstyle but can end up eating shit to beginners. Thanks
15:04 YES! Either way, learning fundamentals makes you way better than learning advanced tech and long combo strings
holy moly im better than mr swe confirmed ( i am green and he is blue )
Me too! (I'm a Lord of Destruction Rank)(no I'm not)
Even with the frustration of lower rank spam, there’s so much in this game I’m having so much fun regardless
Crouch jab and focusing on punishes makes lower ranks good practice. Then there’s learning king’s throws…
I also go into Tekken like TMM, like a noble teacher… who drops 3 rounds while thinking I still have that advantage then is forced to mash if they want to see tomorrow
I’m at orange atm but it’s just sad how quickly my calm and studious mentality is turned into 50/50 fiending
Part of what makes these guides hard to follow is that you also know when to block and when to interrupt
A player that doesn’t know what’s coming might feel forced to press buttons if a low has got them in the past
It’s not so easy to know when you can afford to be patient
Everyone saying TMM is bullying these spammers but really he's teaching them a valuable lesson. Spamming only gets you so far. Maybe he is actually saving people from continuing to spam?
I think he’s saving them from playing Tekken anymore lol
@theDiReW0lf honestly that's just fine too. Tekken doesn't need them.
@@Ekim2F94yikes
@TrollFaceLaunch0 yeah maybe that was kinda mean how iworded that maybe you would've preferred I say they just keep going but it's OK to realize not everything is for everyone. If losing to someone better than you enough to make you stop then you probably don't have business messing with that thing. At least not seriously (ranked).
@@Ekim2F94I also think it’s lame af you can’t rank down until yellow ranks. They do shit like that to make noobs feel better, but once they realized the ranking system has been lying to them the whole time, what good is it for anyone? Stupid.
"We take the punish, into our beginner combo" - Which started with 3 dash EWGF's xd i feel so bad for this king, promotion and everything. For the greater good i suppose.
This is the first tekken I've gotten into, and I am really struggling to find content that is geared towards newer players beyond just Heat explanations. This has been so much more useful, and I hope that you continue this series. Probably doesnt help that I am trying to main Reina
I think a healthy way to progress is to play w some friends. If they do something u really can't grasp to punish or avoid, ask em about it. That or add ppl from casuals u find good, most ppl on PC are willing to talk
That Lili plays a lot like I do, to the point where I could predict the moves she was gonna throw out a few times. Hearing TMM compliment her gave me 2nd hand confidence boost lol
Thanks, Mainman. This proves useful as it allows me to use different tactics and change things up a bit.
Can confirm, punishing will blast you through beginner ranks. Just block and punish. Grabs are super effective too
TMM: "I'm gonna use this string in these matches against beginner players."
Also TMM: *uses the hell out of that string in a match against Arslan Ash*
Thx to your video there was attack of Kazuya clones trying to mimick your play style. I didn't have to worry about hellsweeps when climbing rank with June. Got to Shinryu with her. 😁
That twitch notification at 01:40 perfectly synced with Kazuya
I totally agree with the point about players that pick certain characters seem to only be interested in people getting blown up by their main flows.
Sometimes even when i got beaten, because i didnt go down easily, they wouldnt rematch!
Its just soo crazy to me!
How are u going to get better if u only play people u can just blow up easily?? I mean even if you're just playing for fun! Well you're not playing for fun if u do that in my opinion, your playing to try and show off to people that dont understand Tekken... the 'my rank is the only thing that matters' players , I think anyone that understands about tekken knows that rank does not tell the whole story at all.
Yeah you literally can't get better without losing
ive watched a couple of your videos but 14:40 - 17:06 is what made me subscribe xD
45:08 “I’m going to play normal now”
Into the stratosphere part 2 starts
everybody gangstar till that lili combatant with the neutrals comes up lol
1:01:30 not sure if TMM realizes but the arcade quest teaches you the heat burst + heat smash as the very first combos. as a noob myself it took me a while to realize i should prolly try to use heat a little more efficiently, but thats why so many do it i imagine.
would love to see this kind of a video but with jin
d2 should carry you to at least orange, that move only being -12 is stupid and it's also a high crush ch launcher
I don't know if I'd consider a beginner combo to include double electrics lmao
Lmao bro seeing Kaz wavu wavu must be terrifying as a beginner. That's one of those things that alone shows the player is skilled even for those who probably don't even know what it is.
OK as a filthy new player this was wonderful. I was always looking for a pattern, always looking for a constant opening, but there wasn't one it's as random as when I push buttons. Blocking really is the smartest thing to do at this level.
Love these tutorial steams. Need more of them 😃
Was watching this video when my first fight stick arrived at the door. T8 is gonna be fun.
I only got to Grand Master in Tekken 7. I've gotten to Warrior in Tekken 8 but it felt kind of free because I wasn't losing points. Now that I'm at Warrior the real test begins.
I felt like it was free as well. Even now I feel like the people I play against are way ahead of me, to the point I don’t even understand how they lose to me sometimes lol
Warrior in Tekken 8 is the Brawler of Tekken 7. The green rank struggle now is the yellow rank struggle, at least for the first weeks. Not hitting Brawler in Tekken 7 means, that you are a big beginner, that lacks some completly basic concept, which is holding you back.
@@TheMehkey how good would you says you need to be to hit ganryu-tenryu in T8?
This is the craziest king.... Then I immediately noticed the King's username.
Ranked got much harder. I managed to get Garyu, almost at Shinryu. People at red ranks can already play well.
that poor zafina getting spammed by that string 😂😂
The lili match before hitting brawler "Stand proud you are strong" moment😂
19:14 thanks to this now I hit vanquisher 👏👏
That Lili let you get away with murder. He hesitated when you wave dashed in his face constantly instead of punishing you for it. He's crazy patient though.
Can you please comment on TAA? Providing more Anti-Aliasing options in the games settings would allow for better game clarity during motion.
It is my hope that increased awareness about this will help grease the wheels and help make Tekken an even better product for us all to enjoy
Hope he uploads his Rejna ranked play, I made the mistake of subbing during the special style Jin it was absolute comedy but he was never going to see it.
great video! will you be continuing the beginner guide for each character :) ? thanks!
I literally started to cry laughing when "hes not a begginer" at 45:00 and the "real match" started LOL
Top tier main man keep up the good work
Talking about how beginners play this is the exact same thing in actual martial arts, by the way, just turned up to eleven. Non-fighters will throw themselves at you and leave openings immediately if you just counter or defend their initial (horrendously bad) attacks.
Main man is right in that you don't need to play high level tekken to get through the lower levels. But if you rank up only using the spammable strings or moves, you won't be learning the skills you need to be a good player
The name of this video should just be “why sidestepping is important”
Do another video going through the ranks doing the same thing without sidestepping and see how far you get it would be interesting to see
I almost died laughing during the Zafina match. Thank you TMM
I’m not gonna even go in rank in T8 already know my characters but its good advice.
Fantastic guide, very helpful!
Just got into gold ranks! Blocking alot, utilising lows and having a couple of decent combos to punish wild shit made it a breeze
It's nice when Kaz is at least B tier and the netcode is decent. I got my feet wet in the disaster that was Tekken 6 netcode with 2010 wifi warriors with the weakest Mishimas ever lol
are you doing to make a tekken 8 in 8 minutes for all the other characters as well? loved that content :)
Please do a guide the way Ceelows does guides for street fighter. It was so helpful for me back then.
This is great. I wish he’d used Devil Jin for it! But Kaz is a better choice for him for this for plenty of reasons.
I love how he not shitting on these players. If they hit him with something good, he says it. The mentality is inspiring
What, is it normal to be a pissy loser?
K so from what I got from this is to spam a certain move that kills scrubs and if that doesn't work turn into a pro player and electric 5 times in a row, got it 👌
Nice, exactly what I need. I finished all PvE content and it's a reality shick to play ranked, people nowadays TRAIN before playing even the beginner ranks, it kinda kills the old days fun of playing fighting games on arcades (yeah, I'm old, I played MK1 and SF2 in the arcades).
I've been getting a lot better without playing online, because I'm playing with my brother locally and I feel like I could go online now and do well
@@Grux_ASGYeah, I plan on PC and live with my GF who doesn't play, so no luck for me on this front.
I'm having trouble with the opposite where I spend too much time in practice mode and then have no practical knowledge on how to use anything I learned on my opponent
@@terrantony2635 hmm don't do that, id weaponize a frame trap and low option and immediately get practical experience with it.
mk1 just came out, smh
Just what I needed!
My main issue is getting use to the Heat System and utilizing it like you should…. Haven’t played Tekken since TTT2 so my head space is still on bound moves lol the Rage Art is not that big ac deal to me but even seeing how people can really apply pressure in Heat or extended combos with it I main Leo and be trying to do Tag 2 combos with her still lol
I watched this live, one of the best streams yet
Managed to reach Mighty Ruler with Jin toward the end of T7's run before getting completely annoyed and settling, but so far I've been making steady progress in T8.
My way is know your character, be unpredictable, practice optimizing combos, and know your opponent. It's one thing to know the opponent's character but remaining calm and studying/anticipating their tactics during the match is another. Never play when feeling tired or irritatable, drink water, take breaks regularly, and put fun over all else. Most importantly, stay humble. You won't be on top of the mountain all the time and if you're on a losing streak, then its best to step back acknowledge what it is you could be doing wrong.
That's so true. Also don't get frustrated over your opponent. Rather stay focused on what you could have done better and go into replay and tips and look at certain situations. View every match as something you can improve on. At least that's what I try to set my mindset too improve.
Can you give me some gameplan as Jin for me to escape Green Ranks? Idk how to deal with spammers lol
@@mrpotato7734 as tmm said spam a move I think on Jin u could get out of green ranks only using your b2,1 and d2 the db2,2,1? String or whatever input it was is also nice than maybe put the hell sweep into the mix if u struggle.
Oh yes, I also put "emotionless passion" as the main menu theme to honor tekken 2 Kazuya ^^
HELL YEAH WERE GOING GARYU RANKED MATCH
Thank you, Masku-sensei 🤩👌
I remember in old tekken games the lee AI on ultra hard will do this seemingly infinite string that will poke you low mid and high and now here i am watching veteran player calling it some rookie stuff. I feel so stupid right now but at least now i get it
19:13 pause…
As a hwoarang player I found this funny as he knew he wasn’t going to rematch and he seem so disappointed lmao 26:15
Nice to see I have better start with ranks than MMS 😂 I had 20 win streak and went straight to Warrior 😂
I would like to play against some day.
how about a series zero to hero, where you grab a beginner watch a few of his matches and we follow his progression to the top, with tips etc ( i volunteer as tribute :) )
It's cool how TMM can simply point mistakes an opponent is making instead of making fun of them. Like, he can spam b+2,4 and win the match and he doesn't call his opponent trash like some streams (*cough LowTierGod cough*), he says his opponent simply doesn't understand that the string is super safe and correct response is to duck.
Do you play on mouse and key or do you have a fight pad? I’ve just got back into Tekken wanted to know the best way to play