Vanilla Deathwing and the Missing Dragonflight

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

Комментарии • 103

  • @marz_mitzi
    @marz_mitzi 4 дня назад +100

    there's definitely a missing white dragonflight- WHITE whelps exist in the files too

    • @TurbotarzanWoW
      @TurbotarzanWoW  4 дня назад +17

      Yeah, thats right! Added to the gamefiles in Dragonflight - only to be left out, just like the dragonspawn

    • @blackgriffinxx
      @blackgriffinxx 4 дня назад +5

      Well we got a new aspect that is ice base. So keep hope alive.

  • @Blaziken20052000
    @Blaziken20052000 4 дня назад +135

    Worth mentioning if you weren't aware, the white dragonspawn is currently visible in Retail. They are sometimes one of the Holiday Celebrants that spawn in the Anniversary hub. I personally took a screenshot because I had never seen a mob that looked like it in my whole WoW career but sure enough, it's real!

    • @grom4818
      @grom4818 4 дня назад +16

      retail isn't actually canon they keep adding weird fanfic characters like the lothar girl

    • @09jorgewords09
      @09jorgewords09 4 дня назад +25

      @@grom4818 WoW isnt cannon, warcraft ended with Warcraft 3: Frozen throne

    • @sidionysos
      @sidionysos 4 дня назад +10

      @@09jorgewords09 Real Warcraft ended in Warcraft 2 tho.

    • @sidionysos
      @sidionysos 4 дня назад +37

      @@grom4818 how many times you've deleted and rewrote "black" before finally writing "lothar"? lol

    • @grom4818
      @grom4818 4 дня назад

      @@sidionysos oh that reminds me what they did to blood elves, what a rainbow poop parade

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 4 дня назад +72

    I like how that White Dragonspawn has a chance to appear at the 20th anniversary event.

  • @booknutart8740
    @booknutart8740 4 дня назад +35

    What a fascinating video! I’ve been tossing around the idea of running a Vanilla/Warcraft III-era tabletop campaign lately, and this video is the perfect inspiration for the plot - something centering on that lost, white Dragonflight sounds really compelling. Thanks for posting, and thanks for the inspiration!

  • @tnaxpw
    @tnaxpw 4 дня назад +28

    Tbh I never realised there were any mentions of white dragons, I only knew of the albino drake, but ye, albino.

  • @Khether0001
    @Khether0001 4 дня назад +16

    The lore you covered is amazing! Having a voice-over and a high density text makes it difficult to assimilate either though, because even if we pause to read, we then have a disconnected narration to caught up to, would be nice if you could incorporate the text into the voice-over. I really love your channel and your content! Cheers!

    • @TurbotarzanWoW
      @TurbotarzanWoW  4 дня назад +10

      Glad you enjoyed it! I will keep this in the mind for the future, thanks for letting me know :)

  • @WilliamAGould
    @WilliamAGould 3 дня назад +1

    This was a very well done review, with plenty of information provided, in an organized fashion.
    You did a good job.

  • @inhorama338
    @inhorama338 4 дня назад +2

    I love your vids, I'm not sure why but it fascinates me to learn about this kind of details concerning early wow development. Thanks for your upload

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 4 дня назад +12

    6:22 That exact style of horn is actually in the dragon isles in Ohn'aran Plains. I wonder if that is an ANCIENT datamining reference, akin to how they made sure to work in the old emerald dream statues into the newer iterations of the area.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 3 дня назад +5

      It's in a few centaur areas in kalimdpr iirc

    • @Alechs777
      @Alechs777 День назад

      @@DIEGhostfish yeah, one is definitely around the entrance to Maraudon

  • @DankMemes-xq2xm
    @DankMemes-xq2xm День назад +1

    I really much prefer the unfinished Dragon Isles and Emerald Dream over what we got. The prototype look gives it that eerie and mysterious feeling that suits magical places that were never meant to be visited by most people. Instead, Dragon Isles was a rehash of old zones, albeit a good rehash, but nothing stood out like that giant octopus temple in the early prototype. Same with Emerald Dream, it was basically Val'Shara 2.0 instead of a weird, uncanny dream realm.

  • @206Zelda
    @206Zelda 8 часов назад

    When Vanilla Mists of Pandaria was in full swing, I remember reading up on the Albino ('white') Dragonflight and the Ivory Sanctum. It was a fully established Wowwiki page complete with a few notable NPCs that had somehow been revealed either in the game or in book-form. You go back to look for the Ivory Sanctum page and it no longer exists. The description for the Albino Drake mount was also changed to a quote from Breanni from a 'forgotten' flight: "Even the Draconic Native Association tests proved inconclusive in determining if the albino drake is related to a known dragonflight." Basically the changes that came were roughly between late-BfA and all throughout SL, and can only be summarized and assumed as 'The team didn't know what to do with it, so they've left it unresolved and/or ignored'.
    It'll likely never be touched on again, but there was definitely an Ivory Sanctum. The premise of it was, according to what I recall about the page at that time, that they resented the other Major dragonflights because they had color and purpose associated with those colors: blue for arcane, red for purifying and nourishing flame, green for the realm of dreaming, bronze for time management, and black for protection of the earth. Meanwhile the white dragons, who didn't have a purpose, went and made a sanctum of their own. There was no official designated task for them, even though they were of Titan design. Unfortunately this is all going off memory, so do take what I say with a heap of salt.

  • @Shadow.Hopper
    @Shadow.Hopper 4 дня назад +20

    pass this down to the guys at turtle wow, they'll know what to do

    • @MikeyPaper
      @MikeyPaper 4 дня назад +7

      Turtle wow is good. Turtle wow is life.

    • @botchklobb8521
      @botchklobb8521 2 дня назад +2

      @@MikeyPaper Turtle wow as a game and what they've done with the client is fantastic. the community though is mind numbing... world is just full of morons all trying to outdo eachother on who can say the most stupid sht, its far worse than anything else, its pathetic

    • @ThisIsntWhatYouExpected
      @ThisIsntWhatYouExpected 9 часов назад +1

      @@botchklobb8521I mean Classic WoW isn’t much different. It’s part of the charm😂

    • @AvelineMelena
      @AvelineMelena 7 часов назад

      ​@@botchklobb8521isn't that just the WoW community in general since... Cata?

  • @steffen7478
    @steffen7478 4 дня назад +48

    I came here to hear about white dragon, only to get 1/2 the video talking about onxyia's scales crafting

    • @koelium2962
      @koelium2962 4 дня назад +8

      On a scale of 1 to 10 I liked it

  • @Matikz007
    @Matikz007 2 дня назад +2

    They did end up using the dragon isles structure model underwater when Vashjir came out, however it was scaled down a lot.

  • @cujoedaman
    @cujoedaman 4 дня назад +4

    The Lion's Rest song at the end somehow fits perfectly for the story of the white dragonflight. A long lost dragonflight that may have existed without our character's knowledge and will never be seen.

  • @ManuelQ40
    @ManuelQ40 4 дня назад

    man your videos are so good,keep them coming!!!

  • @dsmania
    @dsmania День назад +1

    Grat video, I love it. A couple of clarifications, tho:
    - In the Dragon Isles from Dragonflight, white dragons do exist, can be seen around and can also be obtained as a customization for players' mounts.
    - Proto Whelps from Dragonflight can certainly be white and are multiple instances of them.
    - As @LordProteus also pointed out, a white dragonspawn (with the classic model) can be sometimes seen in the 20th anniversary grounds in Tanaris.
    I think they are considered just albinos and not a separate Flight. My personal opinion is that this skin was reserved for notable individuals to stand out (a reskin is cheaper than a new model, specially in vanilla times) or simply as a way to reflect that they were old.

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 4 дня назад +2

    I never knew all that stuff from classic regarding dragonscale leatherworking, I only ever used the onyxia scale cloak to get that treasure in DF, and even then I resorted to buying one!

  • @Pornegon
    @Pornegon 4 дня назад +20

    Green Dragonspawns did make it into the game, there's plenty in the Swamp of Sorrows.

    • @jamsie1994
      @jamsie1994 4 дня назад +6

      I'm pretty sure there are Blue Dragonspawn in Mazthoril, the large cave in Winterspring, as well

    • @TurbotarzanWoW
      @TurbotarzanWoW  4 дня назад +13

      Indeed! However the original Green Dragonspawn never made it into the game, it was replaced by another variant before the game released. Sorry for not being too clear on this

    • @GoozaWoW
      @GoozaWoW 4 дня назад +4

      @@jamsie1994 azure

  • @gullf1sk
    @gullf1sk 3 дня назад +3

    Im literally under 2 seconds in to this video and can tell this dude is danish
    edit: further in to the video now, he is VERY danish

  • @davemustang8173
    @davemustang8173 11 часов назад

    Thank you for posting something new and unknown to the wow community.
    I was getting sick and tired of channels like Madseason and Hiru reposting the same stuff we've known about for a decade

  • @txdmsk
    @txdmsk 4 дня назад +2

    I have made a fortune 20 years ago farming black dragonscale, and a smaller fortune with blue dragonscale :)

  • @notalive_zombie
    @notalive_zombie 4 дня назад +5

    If only DF allowed us to have the dragonkin as a playalbe allied race.

  • @DarthCuddlefluff
    @DarthCuddlefluff 4 дня назад +4

    I have an idea that the infinites were supposed to be the corrupted white dragonflight. Why do I think this? They look like inverted colors. Like a negative of a photo. If you reinvert them you get a white dragon with some bright orange flesh.

    • @plumtucker9514
      @plumtucker9514 3 дня назад +3

      they're the opposite of the bronze flight . orange hues inverted are blue. white inverted is black. so they black,blue and white

    • @DarthCuddlefluff
      @DarthCuddlefluff 3 дня назад

      @@plumtucker9514 Right but if they were inverted bronze they would look different.

    • @Just_Java_Kitty
      @Just_Java_Kitty 2 дня назад +2

      @@DarthCuddlefluff No, if you go into photoshop and invert the colors of a vanilla bronze dragon you get the colors of the infinite flight. They probably added black to make it more interesting. Given infinites were released in BC and have always had time powers, there's no way they intended two dragonflights to be guardians of time. Especially given they only existed in the caverns of time dungeon.

    • @DarthCuddlefluff
      @DarthCuddlefluff 2 дня назад

      @@Just_Java_Kitty I don't think that they did intend for two dragonflights to be the guardians of time. idk where you are getting that.

    • @Just_Java_Kitty
      @Just_Java_Kitty 12 часов назад

      @@DarthCuddlefluff You said that you believed infinites were supposed to be corrupt white dragons, but from BC beta to launch infinites always had time powers, therefore two flights connected to time if you're speculation was true.

  • @RockBottomBrenny
    @RockBottomBrenny 2 дня назад

    Great vid!

  • @TuberoseKisser
    @TuberoseKisser 7 часов назад

    I always hypothesized that the white dragons were experiments by the titans; They wanted to see if ordering proto-drakes were even safe lest they risk killing the future aspects.

  • @dominos2for1
    @dominos2for1 4 дня назад +6

    Good content but you gotta give us more time to read stuff you add on, or speak on it

  • @JasonQuests
    @JasonQuests 4 дня назад +6

    Dude, you superimpose text and images and then remove them way too fast. Especially when you flash multiple things on the same screen. And I know some wise guy going to say, just pause the video, not all of us can. I watch on mobile using voice controls. There is no pause option, and even if there was an option by the Time the command would activate the image would be gone anyway. Besides, that would be a good reason to lengthen your video and get more ad revenue

    • @JasonQuests
      @JasonQuests День назад

      @Ben79k I said nothing rude unlike you. I guarantee I read much more than you do. It seems like you're unable to figure out why that is, but maybe if you try really really hard you just might be able to come up with the solution. Regardless, other viewers have commented the same. If anything it sounds like you need more practice interacting with other human beings

  • @alkariane
    @alkariane 4 дня назад +1

    The albino drake was their placeholder for protodrake before Wrath release. It was recycled to a mount reward to kick up the hype about achievements,
    It's entirely possible the white models are just stock textures made in case of future developments. I'm not sure it's "missing" but rather "never used".
    The original story for the dragonflights always listed the 5 dragon flights from Day of the Dragon, so if there would have been a white dragon flight, it would have been an offshoot, a mutant flight, or something like that.
    Maybe the chromatics were white at some points ?
    It also never was explained where the gold dragon thing was from... The product of the Dragon Soul when used by Thrall and the aspects in Cataclysm. Draenor was proof that they may change direction a lot while designing the story, so I wouldn't be surprised all those colors are just leftovers of cut out or reskinned storylines.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 3 дня назад

      There was a final color on the flower from Day of thr Dragon wasn't there?

    • @rainerfrickanisce2485
      @rainerfrickanisce2485 3 дня назад

      @@DIEGhostfish Oh? Can you find the quote? I'm curious now too.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 3 дня назад +1

      @@rainerfrickanisce2485 "The Eon Rose is a magical flower. It has five petals of different hues; fiery red, emerald green, snowy silver, deep-sea blue and midnight black; surrounding a golden sphere in the center. "
      "Gold" would be the Bronze flight, but what would white be?

    • @lychenthrope
      @lychenthrope День назад +1

      @@DIEGhostfish it would be neat if we had a silver flight that somehow connected to the twisting nether, but with their unwillingness to expand on that i assume that it was cut.. i have a whole crackpot theory on how death was supposed to work in warcraft, as the shadowlands werent mentioned ever until right before the release. even up until bfa, people would be threatening to kill you with "i'll send you to the twisting nether!" and even illidan comments on it in the dh starting zone. perhaps they would have a connection to the spirits of azeroth.. wouldnt that have been cool?

    • @DankMemes-xq2xm
      @DankMemes-xq2xm День назад

      @@lychenthrope The shadowlands were mentioned a long time ago, as early as Wotlk when DKs step into the shadowlands to get their horse in the starter zone, and even earlier in Zul'Farak where it mentions Mueh'zala in the shadowlands. The Twisting Nether has canonically been the place where demons go when they die for a long time, which would apply to Demon Hunters as well which is probably what Illidan was mentioning. That said, the Twisting Nether might have also been used as a generic afterlife in old lore, back before Blizzard thought this stuff through, but I can't recall. The dragonflight that most closely connects to the spirits of Azeroth would be the Green Dragonflight via the Emerald Dream.

  • @jonathan6578
    @jonathan6578 4 дня назад +2

    yaay a new video

  • @lychenthrope
    @lychenthrope День назад

    we also have the albino dragon mount - it always made me think that there was a silver dragonflight that was out there somewhere - the fact that there's a dragonspawn out there with no other flight.. hmm. "white" dragonflight doesnt sound as fantastical to me, so ive always called it "silver" lol. perhaps they were originally going to be the arcane dragons but that got moved to blue with their cut?

  • @OneWhoKnowsThings6009
    @OneWhoKnowsThings6009 3 дня назад

    And dracthyr were part of the game long ago they were not just thought up by the recent devs..
    They were called greater whelps.

  • @PiratDunkelbart
    @PiratDunkelbart День назад

    Well, if I would design such a game/world I would make these white dragons ice dragons with a mix of light blue and white.

  • @paradiseregaind
    @paradiseregaind 4 дня назад +1

    Great video, but you need to leave the text up longer!

  • @robinenbernhard
    @robinenbernhard 4 дня назад

    Good vid ❤

  • @DragonProtector
    @DragonProtector 3 дня назад

    Still wanting for my flight to return. White dragons. Dracthyr here

  • @duiveldylan
    @duiveldylan 4 дня назад +2

    Hear me out what if the white dragon flight is on the other side off azeroth and they have to do with the empire

  • @KevinArcade87
    @KevinArcade87 3 дня назад

    I think we were supposed to fight Neltharion in Hyjal

  • @lauridsen1381
    @lauridsen1381 3 дня назад

    finally a new vid

  • @johannessimola1615
    @johannessimola1615 4 дня назад

    Well.... tbh fair they might have had someideas of that during war3 devs times during which wow was developed at the same time were novel day of the dragons came out and made it that there was 5 dragonflights instead of one were before that alexstrasza ruled overall dragonflight and deathwing was just her strongest child driven into insanity by orcs cruelty during second war. ysera, nozdormu and malygos weren't even a thing before day of the dragons and war3 during boths dev and writting WoW was made.
    so calling it a missing is a strech rather than cut idea dragonflight.
    chromatic was experiments infusing all 5 and infinite was corrupted version of bronze dragonflight added to that technically there is a nightmare dragonflight which is corrupted green dragons, twilight dragons fusions and experiments of sinesthra and void dragons from BfA.

  • @tyriana..340
    @tyriana..340 4 дня назад +2

    How does this tie in with the white/silver slytherdrakes found by Wrathion and Sabellian in the quest line that leads up to us getting the Winding Slyther Drake mount?
    I've also found it very odd that when you are standing on the ground floor of the Seat of the Aspects, there are 6 doors(?) on the sides. On one side there are doors for the black, blue and green flights, on the opposite sides for the red and bronze flights. In between those two are two white banners, with the colours of all 5 flights. I kind of sort of hoped that all the efforts of the players/dragons would lead to an amalgamation of all the flights, resulting in a white (or silver, with all the Tyr stuff) dragon type, that was uncorrupted and untainted by past events and spearheading the future for all dragonkind. I didn't mind getting the white options for my existing dragons, but somehow it felt like there was meant to be more.

    • @Just_Java_Kitty
      @Just_Java_Kitty 2 дня назад +3

      The slitherdrakes were experiments from Deathwing, not dragons. They were some kind of wind serpent before he altered them. As well as in flavor text for items like the white scales and I think the albino drake, Alexstrasza is quoted to say "How different would things be if the titans chose to elevate one more dragonflight." Prior to the aspects and the designated flights, dragons came in all colors of the rainbow. They did however shoot themselves in the foot with the Aspects, as there was the potential for 6 aspects--7 considering Eonar blessed both Ysera and Alexstasza-- but I think there was no rational role to give them, such as Life, Magic, Earth etc.

    • @lychenthrope
      @lychenthrope День назад

      copied from another reply of mine, but it would be neat if we had a silver flight that somehow connected to the twisting nether, but with their unwillingness to expand on that i assume that it was cut.. i have a whole crackpot theory on how death was supposed to work in warcraft, as the shadowlands werent mentioned ever until right before the release. even up until bfa, people would be threatening to kill you with "i'll send you to the twisting nether!" and even illidan comments on it in the dh starting zone. perhaps they would have a connection to the spirits of azeroth, helping them either to the twisting nether to be reincarnated or working with the spriit healers to aid those with eternal souls to resurrect.

    • @Just_Java_Kitty
      @Just_Java_Kitty 12 часов назад

      @@lychenthrope It's a cool theory, and I don't disagree, it would have been a cool concept to have other dragonflights. But long before WoW the MMO existed, in several novels and pieces of media there were only ever 5 canonical dragonflights. Not to mention the Dragonflights / Aspects are unique to Azeroth, so linking them with death wouldn't make sense, whether it was the Shadowlands or the Twisting Nether. Especially as the Twisting Nether is a place outside time and space, a void that existed after the creation of the universe and been confirmed to be where demon's go to regenerate, while "immortal" souls like the wild gods go to the Dream. And the Shadowlands has been mentioned several times before the expansion, specifically in Wrath of the Lich King with the Death Knight's, as well as with the history of the Val'kyr. The maw was even described in Sylvanas's short story that released prior to Cataclysm.

  • @2thezaza
    @2thezaza 4 дня назад

    I love this stuff

  • @autumndawn9836
    @autumndawn9836 3 дня назад

    Did the video get accidentally uploaded at 2x speed?

  • @kalsizzle
    @kalsizzle 4 дня назад

    didnt know about the onyxia breastplate

  • @viggomeister2136
    @viggomeister2136 4 дня назад

    godt arbejde!

  • @FireSisterBee
    @FireSisterBee 4 дня назад +4

    Funny how we both got the Dragon Isles AND a 6th Dragonflight now that is mostly whiteish...

  • @Setanta1913
    @Setanta1913 4 дня назад +3

    7 minutes vid on the missing dragon flight. 5 minutes in. No missing dragon flight.

  • @Doublestone123
    @Doublestone123 19 часов назад

    Bro du laver gode videoer, men please brug 5 sekunder mere på hver sætning for lige at udtale alle ord korrekt, det vil forbedre din udtalelse markant

  • @meltingatom
    @meltingatom 2 дня назад

    Oh-nix-e-uh

  • @udalix
    @udalix День назад

    oh nick shun. never heard it pronounced that way It doesnt even have an n at the end lmao

  • @ZaneTaylorMusic
    @ZaneTaylorMusic 2 дня назад

    Your slides are so fast and full of so much text it's hard to read

  • @MathiasEkholm
    @MathiasEkholm 4 дня назад +2

    First comment! 🎉

  • @Lazerkat789
    @Lazerkat789 День назад

    Blizz: let's name the dragons after colors!
    Also Blizz: instead of Yellow let's say 'bronze' 🤡

  • @NWA-TjalfeTooStonedToAim
    @NWA-TjalfeTooStonedToAim 4 дня назад

    Måske snakke lidt langsommere 😁