As a Pats fan, I love seeing Tom thrive in Tampa Bay. I’m also glad got this (well-deserved) humble pie. Bill wanted Tom gone his last 3 years in NE, you could tell because after the Jimmy trade… Tom literally got less an less good weapons to throw to. Bill wanted to be the man again. Now he sees what he left Tom out there to work with. I don’t want to hear about our salary, he’s supposed to be a mastermind… those defensive players knew why they looked so good (it was because Tom was the best game manager ever and got them plenty of rest when he has the weapons to do so) they would’ve GLADLY taken a couple/few million less to find some better talent. It’s a bitter sweet moment, and I’m so happy we get to get thrashed by Tom this year 🤗
Great job, and I don't only mean your content, but the way it's all put together, your graphics, all the bells and whistles, my friend. Moved north of Boston in '73 after the Army, and learned to follow certain players, and root for them to succeed knowing full well how the teams season would end, so after a few thrilling, teasing years, TB12 seemed a reward for all the previous years we cheered but lost. Pretty bittersweet stuff here, but I love it. Thanks again.
15:49 is SAGE advice from Stephen A. His entire diatribe here is extraordinary. Life affirming and challenging at the same time. Thank you for including this in the video. It underscores more than Tom Brady - all human beings can benefit from this self awareness.
Prior to him going to Tampa NOBODY looked at Tampa as a juggernaut. All of a sudden Brady gets there and now it's "oh anybody could've won a Super Bowl with this team (which had 10 losing seasons in 11 years and hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years).
yeh i hate those idiots who say that. thankfully with this youtube channel i can catch them say 1 thing and then make more excuses when brady proves them wrong
Hey bud, I reccomend watching "do your job" it shows how big headed bill is. But the team is a team built in drive for Brady. Love this one. Thank you for all the excellent videos
Most importantly, I am probably one of the few to ever say this and to think this, TB12 made Bill the Greatest NFL Head Coach of all Time. Before Bill had Brady, Bill was just a Great Defensive Coordinator Coach with losing records as a Head Coach for the Browns and Pats. And, when Brady arrived at New England...he made Bill into the Head Coach he is today, the Greatest NFL Head Coach of all Time.
you won't get any arguments from me. when brady was kicked out, i was livered. couldn't watch football for a long time until i had to change my views on belichick
EXACTLY! Also, prior to him going to Tampa NOBODY looked at Tampa as a juggernaut. All of a sudden Brady gets there and now it's "oh anybody could've won a Super Bowl with this team (which had 10 losing seasons in 11 years and hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years).
Brady's last year with NE was disgusting. Poor receivers, banged up O-line, worst TE crew ever, and still went 12 - 4. And the critics buried him. So glad he left. This year with the Bucs, will be epic!
I never realized how much rich eisen makes dr. Melli references til I started watching this channel. Another good one man. I can’t believe you’re still getting a video out everyday.
yeh rich eisen is awesome. he's really smart and just an all round good guy. he knows his football. thank you as always for watching and for the encouragement bro. it's definitely more tiring doing this commentary, cause it's so much more work. i'm slowly getting better and hopefully i can sound more natural and smoother as i improve. doing everything i can to get a video out everyday still.
Tom probably wouldn't have won a 7th in NE, but I bet he would have stayed if Bill wasn't so hard ass. Also this time Kraft didn't overrule it so I guess it shows that the NFL is a business even with the GOAT.
The Patriots played Tennessee as hard as any team in the NFL that year. Brady was very close to beating them. Brady has taken BUM offenses to the Super Bowl and AFCCG MANY times. Seriously. How many rings does Brady have to win before the sentence "Tom probably wouldn't have won a 7th in NE" never comes out of your mouth? Seriously, 12? Go look at the 2006 season. His best WR was Reche Caldwell and they were one drop from a SB appearance and probably another ring. When will you learn: NEVER bet against Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. Dude is the GOAT because he takes bums to the promise land season after season because he's the SMARTEST QB ever. That aspect of his football repertoire isn't spoken about enough. His football IQ is unparalleled, he does pre-snap reads that Manning didn't even make: www.patspulpit.com/2016/10/12/13254632/dan-koppen-tom-brady-makes-pre-snap-calls-that-peyton-manning-did-not-jerod-mayo-donta-hightower
I don't think that a Bill vs. Tom narrative exists. I think that they were just drifting separate ways in what they wanted going forward and the media took that and blew it up to be some bad blooded war. Bill Belichick respects the hell out of Tom Brady, as does Brady of Bill, and they were together for 20 years and created the greatest dynasty in NFL history. Bill is arguably the greatest coach of all time, and Brady obviously the greatest and most accomplished player ever, and they had something really special and irreplicable. Brady wanted more fun out of the game and a change of pace, and the Patriots wanted to turn a new page. Tom obviously found the best place he could in Tampa and Bill and the Patriots are reloading with a new, young QB. As much as I hate all the success the Patriots have had, I respect the shit out of it, and they're rightfully dubbed legendary, but times change and Tom has found greatness in a new place.
i can not believe how good was tom brady with his speech in the whitehouse. he was funny and very respectful to the president. If he was still with stupid/mean bellichick we will never see this side of tom.
Thing about BB is that he didn’t change with the times. Now that Brady left, it forces BB to change or get exposed. He won’t ever win a chip without TB.
it's hard to win a super bowl. brady-belichick was a winning formula, but now brady has shown he can do it without belichick. so the pressure is on bill ot prove he can do it on his own too
Big pressure on BB this season to prove he can win without TB12. If the Pats don't make the playoffs this year, BB's legacy will be significantly damaged. IMO the "Patriot Way" only works with a leader humble enough to lead by example in practices and games despite severe criticism in a work only environment.
Spot on. This is the kind of nuanced psychological insight that a lot of people don't understand: it takes THICK skin to be a millionaire with a supermodel wife and millions of adoring fans, pro bowls, lombardis, etc, to sit there and be unceremoniously berated time and time again in front of the whole team - sometimes for plays that weren't even necessarily your fault. Why? Just so the coach can prove one point: he is lord; he is the final authority; no player is above him; no player is above critcism; every player must be humble. While this might be good to deflate any egos, it's idiotic to do so to a GROWN man who has won you rings and who is as self-critical of his play as any athlete in the history of team sports. Belichick has ZERO rings without Brady. I genuinely believe that.
For Bill to think that it’s his system that works is so full of it. His system would never work without Tom. Players can’t ask for more money then Tom and because Tom does what’s ask of him you kinda have to fall in line. The last few years shows Tom displeasure of Bill, especially when Giselle comes out and said that Tom just needed to feel appreciated. I get so f ing annoyed when Bill say “defense wins championships”, it’s like a slap in the face for Tom and his offensive when he say shit like that. Listen to some of the Pats Hall of fame induction for the players and you’ll hear him say it a few time.
I agree Bill is a good coach. As a leader and boss everyone is accountable. If you show favortism you alienate people. Causes issues in locker room. The only thing you hear about Bill is cheap contracts. Just like Brady no real negative comments from players. Most show thanks to him. I think it was some thinking Brady was gonna drop off. Bill is a historian. History was on his side. Although by watching Brady everyone knew he was different. I think some was ego. One was Kraft said no. Watching Jimmy in Sanfran Kraft was right. Also I truly believe he thought it was coaching. The coaches throwing Brady under the bus was the end. The fact is if not for Brady they where getting fired. Number 1 Qb in NFL and loosing. Although to be fair it takes time to get your system and players in place. To many teams do not give coaches time. One final thought. Brady is a lot like Bill in keeping things private. Do not give media much. Then again how do you trust a group that rips them. Then tries to destroy your legacy. I Love the reactions to stupid questions. I think Brady wishes B.A. would Just zip it sometimes. I know I do. lol
This is where we will disagree...bb respect for brady went out the door when the media after SB 39 started the narrative is it "brady or bb"...bb let his ego get involved after that ...and it was as if he needed brady to be knocked off his so called pedestal....when bb went after jimmy g thats when brady went to kraft and said all the discounts i gave i want to retire here ...kraft agreed now to kraft defense they never discussed age or date...when bb threw brady under the bus in deflagate that was enough for me...the only reason the investigators looked at brady was because bb said " you want to know about balls talk to the qb"...i always believed that bb knew that the NFL comm will punish whether guilty or not just because name gets mentioned ....bb needed a way to get jimmy g on the field when you have a quarter back that never misses a snap...bb thought however many games suspended would be enough to showcase how good jimmy g was and maybe persuade kraft and fans to move on from brady...but karma has a way of biting you...and jimmy g injures his knee second game and that ended that quest...but i think deflagate was the beginning of the end for bb and brady...thats why the narrative after brady left and people were saying all brady wanted was that bill want him...that would be correct cant play for a coach not in your corner...and when jimmy g fell through( which had nothing to do with brady..jimmy g did not take the extension bb offered wanted more money...the only thing bb could do was trade or tag..but kraft had a policy that would never force a player to play for pats..so kraft told bb you cant tag him..so bb had no choice but to trade)...bb blamed brady for this because bb could not stand that the qb you want is not like the qb you have and the qb to have is not the qb you want because bb could not take credit for brady the same way he could have done with jimmy g..bb did not scout for brady like he did jimmy g ...bb had to be talked into brady..but bb has to deal with that same qb being the superstar ....also it was how brady wins his games...system qb do not win SB MVP or league MVP...brady was clutch ..clutch play cannot be coached...jimmy g was a true system qb...jimmy g will never be mvp you can see in how he plays..bb could take credit for him..that it was patriot system coaching staff that made jimmy g...after that bombed...bb decided i cant get rid of brady but i sure as hell can make him look bad..brady was just league mvp in 2017 and what did bb do ...got rid of the passing game and went to run heavy....that is a death knoll for a qb...thats why you will never see a tannehilll as mvp..because their star is thier running game derrick henry...49ers kittle...system qb are not on passing teams...that why when brady got first mvp was when pats went from run heavy to pass heavy...when bb went backb to run heavy everyone assumed was because brady declining..no just the personnel declined and brady desire and enthusiasim after SB 52...so no i have no respect for bb...i understand business but there is a way to do things..and the ends justifying the means is why karma is alive and well in NE and BB
yeh i knew a lot of people would disagree with me about bill. i was really upset at bill for kicking brady out and was devastated to see him leave the pats. believe me, i was really angry about how bill treated brady. but after a lot of reading and also for my own happiness, i decided to take the positive point that bill loved his players and was doing what he thought was best for the pats. obviously belichick was wrong. he certainly was wrong about brady. but i just didn't want to add more hate.
@@TBDtribute no hate ..i have come to terms with reality i am also glad and feel the only way brady was going to continue his special journey was to go to another team....i had just hoped and prayed that he hadnt stayed too long...but destiny had other plans for our guy brady...so i am looking for to it...dont forget to watch the espy awards dont know what time there here will be 8 pm eastern time today...brady nonminated for i think 3 awards....
@@vgb1328 yeh i'm with you. and i had to look at it in that way too. i was getting too emotionally invested and was starting to feel myself get bitter every time i watched the pats and it wasn't me and was ruining my enjoyment. so i just put it down to - brady leaving was a blessing in disguise and he would get his true recognition. which was absolutely true. so it all ended well.
@@vgb1328 yeh i won't be able to watch espy live, can only get highlights on youtube unfortunately. i'm so far behind all the latest news about brady, but i will catch up in a month. i am starting to be smoother and improving a bit. hopefully it'll be much better soon and i can roll when season starts.
Another great video, I love the add of Pat McAfee! And thank you again. You’re the Goat 🐐 of RUclips channels to me 🙌 I do love this one aspect of football a difference of opinion. Of course I’ll say usually it’s not an opinion and “I know everything” I don’t 😂 it’s just when it comes to football I tell everyone it and they now laugh. However BeliLoser you and I disagree. He shatters egos then tries to build them up his way. He does this not for the players as you think. He does to keep his job Great coach? When? Before Brady literally days before, there was serious talk of him being fired. He did take a winning team and woah make it a losing one fast until TB12. He even quit one season over not getting his way over Jimmy G.! Of course stayed However during super bowl benches Butler and Brady still had an amazing game in spite of. Okay that’s that on that. That’s what I love. Again thank you 🙏💯✌️🎉❣️
thanks Kiki :))) i'm starting to improve and hopefully be more "natural" as time goes on. i'm really behind on the latest brady enws and i want to post that, but there's not enough time in my day at this stage. i'm hoping i'll have everything smooth out and running well by the time the season starts. i can't wait!!! hope you're having a great weekend :))
i've had to take a postive approach when it comes to bill. i was devastated when bill kicked brady out of the pats. i was so upset that it was ruining my enjoyment of football. so i had to take a more positive view point. that bill does love the palyers and he was doing it for what he thinks was best for the pats. also it was good that brady now has a chance to show he can do it without bill and get his proper recognition. and brady did that. bill obviously was wrong for getting rid of brady, but it was just emotionally draining for me to keep being angry. so i've let it go.
@@TBDtribute Wow just wow. I think you are pretty amazing. If that’s what you had to do. I’m so happy you did. It didn’t do that for me cos I didn’t like Belichick ever. So it was how it was. You showed exactly who you are with that post and I have so much more respect and admiration for you...! 💯❣️
@@TBDtribute you’re doing perfect. I am not always the easiest when it comes to football. You beyond won me over. It’s your passion and love and finding something good always. THANK YOU!!! :)
Okay, I understand that BB wants his players to be the best that they can be and that he loves then and all. But when his quarterback performs year after year and wins year after year, he is not "Developing" TB12 anymore. It's time to shift gears and change the dynamics of the relationship to something MORE and it's NOT getting rid of Tom. That's where we all lost respect for BB He treated Tom like shite for the last 4 years. It was not warranted, it was totally disrespectful, he was purposely short changing Tom with play makers and we're all glad Tom won a Super Bowl year one and BB had a losing record!!
bro i completely understand your point. i was so devastated and angry when brady was kicked out of the pats. i was so upset and started becoming bitter. the only way i could enjoy football after that was to look on the positive side and just think belichick was only doing what he thought was best for the team. it was wrong obviously. but that was the only way i could move forward
In my opinion (And I could make an excellent case in court with my assessment) without Lawrence Taylor or Tom Brady as players who played under Bill (Assistant "D" Coach with the Giants) Bill Belichick wouldn't have one Super Bowl ring.. It's the in-between that is the damning evidence - Bill was an absolute disaster in Cleveland and an equal disaster in New England before Brady *5-13* and after Brady *7-9* - 2020 season - 2 of those 7 wins were against the 2-14 JETS
Absolutely spot-on comment. I completely agree. Occam's Razor suggests LT and Brady were far more instrumental to the success of their teams than anything Belichick did.
Love your content but it was hard to see you defend Bill Belichick doubting Brady’s ability before he let him go. Bill knows as well as Tom he had failed as the GM to draft any decent skill players time and time again. Bill is a HORRIBLE GM but a great coach. The fact that Bill witnessed greatness on the sidelines watching Tom win him ring after ring for 20 years then he gave up on him and basically said “we can’t win with you anymore” I’ll never forgive that betrayal and failure as a coach to appreciate the talent that got Bill 6 rings. That said, I give bill some credit for grooming Tom, but the student surpassed the master long ago.
thanks bro, and i appreciate your point. initially i was pretty upset with how bill treated brady and kicking him out. but after reading the book dynasty, i became a lot softer on bill. no doubt bill made the wrong call to get rid of tom and i was really sad to see him leave the pats. i'm just choosing to take the positive side and hope that bill does care about his players
@@TBDtribute Read following, you will see what made Pats offense system work under Brady, but Pats coaches were completely clueless. Pats QB coach opens up about Newton's recent struggles “There’s clearly some times that we haven’t *pulled the trigger fast enough* and therefore we’re hitching a couple extra times or holding onto the ball a little bit longer than we would like to, and that kind of can cause many things,” Fisch said. _“It (holding onto the ball a little bit longer) can cause a negative play, a sack, an interception, an incompletion, a late throw."_
@@TBDtribute "but after reading the book dynasty," Now you see that the author was clueless, Belidiot was clueless, Pats coaches were clues. *The whole offense system depended on Brady's TIMING so that defenders were often 2 or 3 steps too late,* so that Pats receivers were often wide open for YAC; so QB could throw 5 yards on 3rd and 7; so QB didn't have to worry about interception. *That is something even Peyton and Rodgers couldn't do, and Belidiot and those idiots asked Cam to do.* They didn't realize how hard it was to throw a fraction of a second quicker, and were surprised that Cam couldn't throw 5 yards.
How do we know Belichick is a football genius? Seriously? Why? He had Brady. Is Phil Jackson a genius or did he just have MJ? Was Poppovich really a genius or did he just have Duncan. Belichick in 8 seasons, a MASSIVE sample size without Brady: 6 losing seasons 0 division titles 1 playoff app 0 conference title games 0 pro bowl qbs below 18 ppg "You are what your record says you are." - Bill Parcells (Bill Belichick's coaching mentor). And Poppovich has actually done okay without Duncan. Belichick's record without Brady is HORRIBLE. Like if this were ANY other coach in NFL HISTORY we would go: "yo, is he overrated? He can't without Brady." And it's not like Brady has had Julio Jones or Antonio Brown this whole time - guys who you DON'T HAVE TO SCHEME OPEN. That's a massive deal. Brady's done this by elevating mediocre talent. I'm sorry, but Edelman on another team would be just another guy. Even WITH Brady I think he's made 1 pro bowl (and he's also led the league in drops multiple times). Tom Brady's NUMBER ONE WR for years led the NFL in drops, Edelman. Brady made Edelman and he made Belichick.
When he first made the move these guys were laughing at Brady for going to TB, now they all speak as if it was so obvious. Only one of them stuck with Brady through thick and thin.
EXACTLY! Prior to him going to Tampa NOBODY looked at Tampa as a juggernaut. All of a sudden Brady gets there and now it's "oh anybody could've won a Super Bowl with this team (which had 10 losing seasons in 11 years and hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years).
I think the foregone conclusion is that it was "The Tom Brady Way" and not the "The Patriot Way" regarding winning. There is certainly something to say about Bill B. and what he brings, but how many seasons as a head coach did Bill B. record as a winning season, and then how many of those are seasons were with Tom as QB? Is Bill B. riding Tom's coat-tails?
Yeah imo I think so. I think he also rode Lawrence Taylor's coattails as d-coordinator of the Giants. LT was a freak of nature. I have a buddy who played for the Bengals. He said LT was the freakiest defensive player he had ever seen - faster than many running backs, but stronger at the point of contact than any player in the game. That's who he had as Defensive Coordinator under another genius HC in Bill Parcells (not to mention 3 HOFers on defense including Carson and Banks). As HC of the Patriots he's rode Tom Brady's coattails for years. It never mattered to Brady who got the credit but it mattered to Bill who got the credit. This is why they are no longer together. Brady took LESS MONEY to win. Who does that??? Nobody. Even those who grew up rich like Peyton Manning take as much as they can. This is MILLIONS we are talking about; and there's no guarantee that money will even be effective in yielding additional wins (as we saw by Belichick pocketing much of that money instead of reinvesting it in the offense). Belichick is overrated. He's a cheapskate and he's getting exposed. 0 division titles in 8 years without Brady. Brady has 17 division titles in 18 years as a starter. Belichick: 0 without Brady. Think about that for a second.
How did they “sell out” as a team to win? They signed zero top weapons for Brady except for AB who they tossed over a tweet. Not to mention it wasn’t a big contract. Bill spent on defense exclusively and even then hardly “sold out” for the future. That argument is absolutely stupid and easy to prove as nonsense.
Belichick as HC of the Patriots has rode Tom Brady's coattails for years. It never mattered to Brady who got the credit but it mattered to Bill who got the credit. This is why they are no longer together. Brady took LESS MONEY to win. Who does that??? Nobody. Even those who grew up rich like Peyton Manning take as much as they can.
Bot and all three missed the greatest hurdle . COVID-19 , NEW SYSTEM " NO PRACTICE , NO PRESEASON . EVEN KICK OUT OF THE PARK TRYING TO PRACTICE ! EVERYONE ELSE HAD THEIRS; NOT TOM : ALL NEW and very different !
BB is a meglomaniac who traded team captains at he start of a number of seasons that blindsided the players. In recent years BB was using the cap to load up the defense and not help Brady (who was accepting paycuts) with receivers so BB could show the world that his "the defensive genius" was the reason for the 20 year success. BB has a LOSING record WITHOUT Brady. He is a good coach but not the goat. I am from NE and watched a lot of the games. TB pulled out over 50 games for BB in the 4th quarter.
Tom Brady has, by a wide margin, the record for double-digit comeback wins. That ALONE proves it was Brady that made Belichick. Brady, more times, than ANY QB IN HISTORY, brought his team back from 10 points or more in the 4th quarter. Insane. Thats GOAT status.
The whole argument about Brady being a "System" QB is one of the STUPIDEST and WEAKEST arguments of all time, which should had never been made in the first place, when talking about TB12. So many people, including a ton of former NFL players, had CLEARLY FORGOTTEN that many of the Great NFL QBs to play the game, played in a some type of a "system" during their careers. For instance, the former GOAT QB, Joe Montana played in one of the most successful "Systems", the West Coast Offense, in NFL history, during most of his NFL Career. Hell, even fucking Rodgers played in the "West Coast Offense" for most of his entire career. John Elway and Brett Favre had also played in the "West Coast Offense" as well. And, if my memory serves me correctly, I never recalled anyone constantly making the STUPID FUCKING ARGUMENT about Montana, Rodgers, Elway, Favre, etc. being a "System" QB.
This is the first time I had to stop your video to reply. Bro, Bill Belichick does not care about his players!! Bill Belichick cares about Bill Belichick!!
bro i completely get your point. believe me, i was so devastated when brady got kicked out of the pats. i literally started becoming angrier as a person and was bitter about everything. i had to think positive and just believe bill cared about his players and was only doing what he thought was best for the team. obviously he was wrong for getting rid of brady. but i have to believe that, otherwise i won't enjoy football anymore and will just be angry
You're 99.9% right in all your videos EXCEPT for the bit in this video about Belichick. 1000% WRONG. Here's why ... Belichick thinks he's more important than the team. No player has ever gotten a single year salary larger than his (26 mill per year). The Benedict book contains a lot of pro-Belichick propaganda even though, without Brady, in 8 seasons hes been horrible. 0 division titles in 8 years without Brady. Even Bradys rise to superstardom was fueled by Belichick's ego. Belichick didn't discover Brady, Patriot's scout Dick Rayburn did. Brady wasn't even the first Pat's pick of the 6th round, he was the 2nd pick in the 6th round lol. Belichick got rid of Bledsoe because 1. That was Parcells guy not him (and Belichick is insecure that some people think Parcells is a better coach than him). 2. Bledsoe went 5-13 with Belichick and cost $100 million (a contract that Belichick didn't negotiate, his predecessor did). 3. Belichick thought that if he won with this unheralded 6th round pick, HE, not Tom, would get ALL the credit and that's really what happened for Years. For ages people thought Brady was overrated and that it was all Belichick. 4. Brady took less money and yet was low balled. Belichick, according to the NFLPA, spent less than any other GM in terms of Real Net Cash Roster Spending (the actual money you are paying your players) in the NFL between 2015 and 2020. 5. Belichick wanted Brady out as early as 2017! Do your research Tom Brady Daily. He isn't some nice, paternal figure "who wants the best for his players." That's a LIE. He wants HIS reputation as a genius to override everything else. Brady won MVP in 2017 and Belichick sabotaged Brady. He benched Butler, costing Tom a SB ring. He promptly traded away Cooks AFTER Brady renegotiated. He screwed over Amendola after, AGAIN, Brady took LESS money to keep Danny and Cooks. Why did he bench Underwood in the superbowl? Why did he bench Butler in the Super Bowl? Why did he trade for Cooks so Jimmy G, NOT BRADY, could have a deep threat? Why did he trade Jimmy G for a 2nd round pick when he had offers for multiple 1st rd picks? Why did Belichick LOW BALL Deion Branch after the 2005 season, after Brady left money on the table? He refused to bring back Bradys favorite WR. What happened? In the 2006 AFCCG a bum wr named Reche Caldwell dropped a key pass that cost the Patriots the game (and likely another Super Bowl ring). That was a direct result of Belichick's toxic ego. Same thing with the Moss negotiations in 2009/2010. Belichick is a textbook narcissist and egomaniac. HE THINKS his teams win because of HIS genius and thats why he will never win without Brady. Seymour hates Bill. Ty Law craps on Bill. Lawyer Milloy craps on Bill. A TON of former players dont like Belichick, especially Danny Amendola. Why? Because Bill DEMANDS that every player sacrifice his own goals and EGO for the good of the team. So players sacrifice money and fun to win, and then they win and when it's time to negotiate the contract, Bill low balls them lol. The only person in the Patriots organization who doesn't take a pay cut no matter the performance? BELICHICK. Brady got sabotaged by Belichick and I genuinely believe that having Belichick as his coach has actually diminished his stats. If he played for a more offensive minded coach, Brady would've won 6 regular season MVPS. Belichick wanted Brady out as early as 2014 but Brady won the Superbowl so that delayed his plan. Belichick was so desperate to get rid of Brady that Brady had to go BEHIND Belichick's back in order to stay in New England. And in the e d Belichick got rid of him anyways. Dude, Belichick is toxic and overrated. Bradys offenses (3rd in DVOA) carried the dynasty not the defense (11th in DVOA).
thank you bro, i respect your point. i was so devastated when brady was kicked out of the pats. i was really angry at bill and it was ruining my enjoyment of football. so i had to just think of the positive side - that bill does love his players, he was doing what he thought was best for the pats (even though it was wrong), and it gave brady the opportunity to show the world he can win without bill and get his proper recognition. honestly i had to go down that route, cause i was at a point where i didn't want to watch football anymore cause it would make me so upset
Feynman. Incredible evaluation of the situation at hand!! Thanks for saying it. So much gaslighting in regards to hoodie. Tom seems happy now in Tampa and thriving and footballing.
Dude, this is brilliant. This Brady - Belichick beef reminds me of MJ's The Last Dance documentary on Netflix when Jerry Krause, the Chicago Bulls GM, idiotically sabotaged the Bulls Dynasty because of his massive ego a la Belichick. This is an excellent summary of the soap opera that has characterized the Belichick - Brady beef. Turns out the Wickersham article was pretty spot on. Belichick really is getting exposed. A coach like Andy Red is a great juxtaposition to Belichick. They both have family members who were affiliated with the military, both are very studious and rigorous. Reid is more loose and laid back, Belichick is very militaristic and rigid. Brady made the players buy-in, not Belichick - and Belichick never understood this. Like most very intelligent people, he also has a big ego and I think he really started to believe his own hype. Now he gets to prove it. If he can make the playoffs this season I might re-evaluate my stance, but until then Belichick looks super-duper, like astronomically, overrated.
I agree and I believe BB and McDaniels held Brady back with their dunk and dink pass calling and having 3 hobbit wide receivers. I wouldn't trade Edelman or Amendola for anyone but if we had a Randy Moss deep threat on our team, we would have more Super bowl wins and Brady would have smashed all the records years ago!!! Stephen A is right. If TB had weapons, he'd still be in New England. TB12 wanted a multi year deal and BB wouldn't even give him a 2 year deal!! Screw BB. I hope the Bucs whip the Patriots so bad BB's job is on the line!!! Don't forget, Belichick wouldn't have been able to control the players if Brady didn't let him berate him!
the guy in sweat shirt seems to be Bellichic's man. Tom Brady took so many pay cuts!!!!! He did not move because of money, he moved because stupid and mean bellichic w'nt give him 2 years contract that tom wanted. Mean bellichick convinced robert about tom being too old. robert was ungrateful. he should have insisted that tom will retire from New England. he made billions bec of tom brady but that was not enough for him. bellichic did not even win 50% of his games this year. he has never won a season without tom brady.bellichic is a RASCAL. He has hurt so many great players.
So they sold out? Bullshit! Brady was given lemons and made lemonade. Bill's a great coach. His attention to detail and knowledge is 2nd to none. Great defensive game planner. But Jerry Jones, a terrible GM, is better at acquiring talent on the offensive side of the ball. For the better part of 5 years Belichick did nothing but tarnish Brady's legacy. Trying to dump him for Jimmy G., cheating scandals, little to no talent for Brady to work with, letting everyone think it was his system, and never giving Brady his proper credit. Well, 1 year with Brady on a new team and we have the answer. Brady haters are still holding on hoping that Brady fails, but unless his arm falls off all of a sudden or he's, heaven forbid, injured, forget about it. The man's going to simply do what he's done for his entire college and pro careers, prove people wrong. You know how teams get cursed by letting players go? The curse of the Bambino in Boston, the curse of Doug Flutie in Buffalo? Well, I think the Pats are deserving of one for what they did to Brady too.
yeh bro, i can't argue with what you say. i was so devastated when brady left/kicked out of pats. i'm glad he's having a tonne of success now though. proving everyone wrong...again. and winning
You are too nice. I think Bill has a dark side. He was a bully with reporters. He has made terrible draft decisions. He was losing with Bledsoe. Brady took over and gave Bill 20 years of winning. Bill didnt Brady's greatness at the beginning nor the end. Bill put Pats in a horrible position. Kicked out the Goat to replace with Cam and rookie Mac. Bill deserves what is coming...the Brady Curse Will hang around Bill the rest of his life.
bro i get your point completely. i'm reposting my coaches and mentors video in a few days with commentary and i'll explain why i lean that way with belichick. believe me i was devastated when brady was kicked out of the pats. it was so upsetting. i couldn't enjoy football and had to take a positive stance for me to watch it again
@@TBDtribute I appreciate your emotional involvement. Here in Tampa last year, i had a difficult personal life plus covid. I found Brady coming to the Bucs finally gave me something to cheer about and distract me. The more I learned about Brady the more I became curious about Belichick. Im wishing all NEP fans and players well, but Belichick is a little different. For him, I wish the BRADY CURSE👹👿👽☠👹🤣
i hope things are better for you this year bro. i'm an australian and haven't been watching nfl for anywhere near as long as everyone on here has. so i don't have a team. however i'm a massive brady fan and support him at whichever team he goes to. i was just so upset that the pats kicked him out after everything he's done. i'm so glad brady's proved others wrong at the bucs and getting his deserves
@@TBDtribute Your story is fascinating. You certainly found a great subject. Tom Brady is a phenomenon. American Football is a fantastic sport. Thanks for all your hard work and passion. The fireworks are about to begin!💥
Bro food coma kills the best of us LOLOL... And Bro to me it's not about Bill Belichick didn't give Brady the weapons he needed... to me it's about partnering... Coulda Shoulda Woulda but if Bill Belichick had realized after the Super Bowl 4 win what he had with Brady then they could have still been winning Super Bowls to this day... BB's disciplinarian style wouldn't have been needed towards Brady if he had truly understood Brady's single mindedness/obsession and partnered with him much the way JJ partnered back in the day with Troy... Such a shame...such a waste. The proof is in last season... Like your video shows ppl are actually taking less money to play with Brady... Because it gives them the best chance of winning a ring... So simple
Belichick is criminally overrated. He had Brady. Is Phil Jackson a genius or did he just have MJ? Was Poppovich really a genius or did he just have Duncan. Belichick in 8 seasons, a MASSIVE sample size, without Brady: 6 losing seasons 0 division titles 1 playoff app 0 conference title games 0 pro bowl qbs below 18 ppg "You are what your record says you are." - Bill Parcells (Bill Belichick's coaching mentor) Bill Belichick without Brady is a trash head coach.
Belichick cares about his players?!? Hey Aussie-what are you smoking’ mate? Bill could give a shit about anybody but Bill, as evidenced by his trading of marquee players all his career. Then he tries to run the GOAT out of town for Jimmy G (a serviceable backup at best). Stick to rugby mate. 🤦🏽♂️
bro i get your point. i was devastated when brady was kicked out of the pats. i was so angry and bitter i couldn't enjoy football anymore. i have to believe that bill loves his players and was only doing what he thought was best for the team. obviously bill was wrong. but i need to believe the positive otherwise i won't enjoy football anymore cause it just makes me too upset
Ya know they kept calling this..a "genius"... til he finally believed it..ha ha..so he finally fell in luv w/ himself....well all I know is he wasn't such a " genius" in cleveland..& wasn't exactly a household name b/4 T.B.12..showed up...!!! In fact they had Drew Bledsoe..for 9 yrs...an all pro q.b....w/ a high contract..& never came close to s/b...status...I .the only time Mr.B.B...came close to "genius".. is when they took a chance on TB.12...& the rest was history....T.B.12,S...History!!!
yeh i was really upset and devastated when brady was forced out of NE. i just gotta keep thinking bill was doing it in the best interest of the team. he was clearly wrong. but if i don't think that way, i'll just hate football
Love Tom, love what he did here. But I'm a Pats fan. In Bill We Trust. Tom was an unproven talent, and Bill was chastised for not going back to Bledsoe. He's earned the respect and leeway. Even if we never make it back to the SB under Bill, he gave us Tom and the good year's.
@@TBDtribute I can’t. I wish I could. I know that Brady has knives in back he’s still taking out. Belichick didn’t choose Brady. He finally said okay pick him up cos he was being pushed. Why put Bledsoe back in? He was knocked out on another losing season under Belichick. Second one. Oh i must remind you before Belichick that Bledsoe was Patriots fans hope. Went to a super bowl and all. Belichick comes they look pathetic until Brady. TBD I understand why you’re doing it. However mtorgrern you just may forget. Also he wasn’t chastised for not putting Bledsoe in. He was actually being looked at and it was all over at least New England that if he put Bledsoe in he set himself up to lose and fired. Again he left while losing. Brady took the losing season and took the team to the super bowl and won. Bledsoe never could have. I’m not being disrespectful so please don’t take it that way. It’s just facts I know. ✌️
@@ki_tb12 he was chastised 😂 the run up to the playoffs, the thread was "when is Bledsoe going in, should Bill stay with the kid" even the playoff game where Tom got hurt, and Drew came in to close it out, the news outlets were pushing for Drew to stay as starter. Bill stuck with Tommy
@@mtorngren15 I wouldn’t tell me what happened. Js. I know exactly what happened. 🙃 I mean exactly as I eh nvm. Laugh if you only knew 😎 Ha@you calling him Tommy and again you throwing out false news. Don’t reply to me with false news. Ty.
You have too good an opinion of Bill Belichick. The Drill Sargeant way in which he coaches and the inhumane way he treated and undermined Tom Brady has ZERO to do with his coaching style and more to do with jealousy. I submit to you that he watched Tom Brady for 20 years and we all know Tom Brady has HIGH CHARACTER, Bill saw the way Tom quietly accepted his abuse but still played at a high level. The team saw how Tom constantly made lemonade out of the lemons he was provided on Offense despite the fact that he constantly took less money. The reason Bill Belichick wanted Tom out was because Tom had the hearts and minds of the lockeroom AND Bob Kraft. Bill wanted to reign supreme. It is very clear to me that Tom Brady won 6 SuperBowls DESPITE BILL BELICHICK and If Bill had treated him the way Bruce Arians did,The Patriots would probably have been 10 for 10 in SuperBowls if not more. This is why Tom Brady won as soon as he left. His greatness as a leader and his vision and his spirit were ALL being hampered and suppressed by Bill Belichick. If ANYONE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO OBSERVE TOM BRADY'S GREATNESS IT WAS BILL and he actually thought Jimmy G was better than Brady and was the future of the franchise.This should tell you how competent Belichick is.I suspect he didn't really think Garopolo was better but His problem with Brady was personal. Bill Belichick will NEVER WIN ANOTHER SUPERBOWL without Tom Brady. Because the "Patriots way"was actually Tom Brady all along. And DEEP DOWN Belichick knows it.
no offense taken bro. believe me, i really don't want to put my own commentary in. however youtube requires me to do it otherwise they will delete my account. it takes me an extra 1-2hr of work to add my own commentary and i'd rather not do it. they've already had me delete 150 videos already. so this is the only way i can do it. i'm sorry that it's bad
@@TBDtribute That's 1 person's opinion. I think your inputs makes it 100x better and your content was already good. Don't let one knucklehead derail you from the great content you are producing. I know you are doing it to avoid copyright issues, but you have started a great thing. Keep up the good work.
Bill and Tom grew up together . Bill and Tom grew apart , you guys make it sound like this hasn't happened before. Tom is great however he wasn't the guy in the early years. Just saying how did Tom do against the giants? He had moss against the giants. Why not give Tom all the credit. Just saying!!
i'm not sure what you mean regarding giving tom all the credit bro. i do agree with you about bill and tom though. i think as a fan it was hard to see tom leave the pats. for me there was a real sense of loss. i love him at the bucs now though
Nonsense. Brady LED the NFL in TD Passes in 2002 WITHOUT a single Pro Bowl receiver. Do you know how difficult that is? Then Brady LED the NFL in TD Yards in 2005, again, WITHOUT a single pro bowl WR. Brady was top 5 in MVP voting TWICE before 2007. Brady LED the Patriots to a top 7 scoring offense EVERY SINGLE SEASON before he won MVP in 2007. Brady, as his best WR in 2006 being Reche Caldwell, to one Reche Caldwell drop in the 2006 AFCCG from going to another Super Bowl and likely spanking Rex Grossman and the Bears. Brady basically had Moss for ONE season - zero chemistry. And Brady, after ONE off-season wherein they couldnt practice much together because Moss had a hamstring problem all training camp, proceeds to throw for 50 TDS and goes 16-0 in a regular season, and a feat NO OTHER TEAM IN NFL HISTORY has ever done. If you're implying that arguably the luckiest play in Super Bowl history, the Tyree catch, somehow means Moss and Brady were a failure, you are sorely mistaken. Brady also played that game with a high ankle sprain - fun fact. A 100% fully healthy Brady likely has better mobility, at least enough to move in the pocket. He almost beat the Giants with a high ankle sprain lol. And true to form, he NEVER uses that as an excuse. www.bostonherald.com/2008/01/23/brady-high-ankle-sprain/
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Channel name has changed from Tom Brady Daily to TBD Tribute :)
As a Pats fan, I love seeing Tom thrive in Tampa Bay. I’m also glad got this (well-deserved) humble pie. Bill wanted Tom gone his last 3 years in NE, you could tell because after the Jimmy trade… Tom literally got less an less good weapons to throw to. Bill wanted to be the man again. Now he sees what he left Tom out there to work with.
I don’t want to hear about our salary, he’s supposed to be a mastermind… those defensive players knew why they looked so good (it was because Tom was the best game manager ever and got them plenty of rest when he has the weapons to do so) they would’ve GLADLY taken a couple/few million less to find some better talent. It’s a bitter sweet moment, and I’m so happy we get to get thrashed by Tom this year 🤗
yeh i'm with you bro. the man deserves his flowers.
Finally Patriots fan can understand what it's like to not be the best. You guys have been so spoiled.
Great job, and I don't only mean your content, but the way it's all put together, your graphics, all the bells and whistles, my friend. Moved north of Boston in '73 after the Army, and learned to follow certain players, and root for them to succeed knowing full well how the teams season would end, so after a few thrilling, teasing years, TB12 seemed a reward for all the previous years we cheered but lost. Pretty bittersweet stuff here, but I love it. Thanks again.
Cheers bro. Thank you for the kind comment. That's awesome you got to watch so much great football. I've only been watching Brady for a few years ❤️
TBD! Great vid as usual! Brady proved that 'hoodie' has never had a playoff Pats team without Brady at QB!!!
thank you!!! hope you're having a great weekend
15:49 is SAGE advice from Stephen A. His entire diatribe here is extraordinary. Life affirming and challenging at the same time. Thank you for including this in the video. It underscores more than Tom Brady - all human beings can benefit from this self awareness.
You're welcome 😊
Prior to him going to Tampa NOBODY looked at Tampa as a juggernaut. All of a sudden Brady gets there and now it's "oh anybody could've won a Super Bowl with this team (which had 10 losing seasons in 11 years and hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years).
yeh i hate those idiots who say that. thankfully with this youtube channel i can catch them say 1 thing and then make more excuses when brady proves them wrong
True. When TB12 wins, his haters say football is a team sport; when he loses, it automatically becomes an individual sport. LoL!
I rely on Tom Brady Daily every morning to begin by day ... excellent job ... as always.
hahaha. good morning and thank you brother :))
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Love it👌👍😘🥰
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Hey bud, I reccomend watching "do your job" it shows how big headed bill is. But the team is a team built in drive for Brady. Love this one. Thank you for all the excellent videos
thanks brother. i did watch "do your job" a while back. i'll rewatch it again, maybe i can use some of it :)) have a good week mate
Good job man
Waiting to your upload evrey day ;)
thank you bro!!!
Brady is the GOAT. He's the Einstein of the position.
yes sir!!
Most importantly, I am probably one of the few to ever say this and to think this, TB12 made Bill the Greatest NFL Head Coach of all Time. Before Bill had Brady, Bill was just a Great Defensive Coordinator Coach with losing records as a Head Coach for the Browns and Pats. And, when Brady arrived at New England...he made Bill into the Head Coach he is today, the Greatest NFL Head Coach of all Time.
you won't get any arguments from me. when brady was kicked out, i was livered. couldn't watch football for a long time until i had to change my views on belichick
Amen to brady way!
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The fact Brady has put up the numbers he has with a defensive minded coach for 21 seasons is actually insane.
exactly!!!
EXACTLY! Also, prior to him going to Tampa NOBODY looked at Tampa as a juggernaut. All of a sudden Brady gets there and now it's "oh anybody could've won a Super Bowl with this team (which had 10 losing seasons in 11 years and hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years).
Brady's last year with NE was disgusting. Poor receivers, banged up O-line, worst TE crew ever, and still went 12 - 4. And the critics buried him. So glad he left. This year with the Bucs, will be epic!
yeh he had no weapons bro
I never realized how much rich eisen makes dr. Melli references til I started watching this channel. Another good one man. I can’t believe you’re still getting a video out everyday.
yeh rich eisen is awesome. he's really smart and just an all round good guy. he knows his football. thank you as always for watching and for the encouragement bro. it's definitely more tiring doing this commentary, cause it's so much more work. i'm slowly getting better and hopefully i can sound more natural and smoother as i improve. doing everything i can to get a video out everyday still.
I agree with you about Belichick. What you said in this video is what I've said many times.
cheers bro!!!
Tom probably wouldn't have won a 7th in NE, but I bet he would have stayed if Bill wasn't so hard ass. Also this time Kraft didn't overrule it so I guess it shows that the NFL is a business even with the GOAT.
yeh it was so sad to see brady leave
The Patriots played Tennessee as hard as any team in the NFL that year. Brady was very close to beating them. Brady has taken BUM offenses to the Super Bowl and AFCCG MANY times.
Seriously. How many rings does Brady have to win before the sentence "Tom probably wouldn't have won a 7th in NE" never comes out of your mouth? Seriously, 12? Go look at the 2006 season. His best WR was Reche Caldwell and they were one drop from a SB appearance and probably another ring.
When will you learn: NEVER bet against Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.
Dude is the GOAT because he takes bums to the promise land season after season because he's the SMARTEST QB ever. That aspect of his football repertoire isn't spoken about enough. His football IQ is unparalleled, he does pre-snap reads that Manning didn't even make:
www.patspulpit.com/2016/10/12/13254632/dan-koppen-tom-brady-makes-pre-snap-calls-that-peyton-manning-did-not-jerod-mayo-donta-hightower
I enjoy your punditry better then the media clips. Great job as always🐐
thank you so much for saying that bro!!! i truly appreciate the support
Keep it up bro. You doin great.
cheers bro. hope you're having a good weekend mate :)
That Dislike Most Be Bellichick.😂😂😂
hahaha
I don't think that a Bill vs. Tom narrative exists. I think that they were just drifting separate ways in what they wanted going forward and the media took that and blew it up to be some bad blooded war. Bill Belichick respects the hell out of Tom Brady, as does Brady of Bill, and they were together for 20 years and created the greatest dynasty in NFL history. Bill is arguably the greatest coach of all time, and Brady obviously the greatest and most accomplished player ever, and they had something really special and irreplicable. Brady wanted more fun out of the game and a change of pace, and the Patriots wanted to turn a new page. Tom obviously found the best place he could in Tampa and Bill and the Patriots are reloading with a new, young QB. As much as I hate all the success the Patriots have had, I respect the shit out of it, and they're rightfully dubbed legendary, but times change and Tom has found greatness in a new place.
you have a point
Let’s go TB Daily!!!!
lets goooooooo
Think of it this way in 22 yrs he has been to 10 super bowls
crazyyyyyyy!!!!
Nice. Thanks.
no problems bro!!! :)
i can not believe how good was tom brady with his speech in the whitehouse. he was funny and very respectful to the president. If he was still with stupid/mean bellichick we will never see this side of tom.
yeh i loved it too :) he's such a great speaker and leader :)))
Thanks for the much time you put in for this channel :) love it!!
you're welcome bro!!! thank you for watching :))
BB is nothing without Brady.
it's looking that way!!!
Thing about BB is that he didn’t change with the times. Now that Brady left, it forces BB to change or get exposed. He won’t ever win a chip without TB.
it's hard to win a super bowl. brady-belichick was a winning formula, but now brady has shown he can do it without belichick. so the pressure is on bill ot prove he can do it on his own too
18:23 😂😂😂
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Until Brady, Belechick never had A winning record as a head coach
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Big pressure on BB this season to prove he can win without TB12. If the Pats don't make the playoffs this year, BB's legacy will be significantly damaged. IMO the "Patriot Way" only works with a leader humble enough to lead by example in practices and games despite severe criticism in a work only environment.
yeh there's going to be a tonne of pressure. bill needs to win to prove it wasn't all brady
Spot on. This is the kind of nuanced psychological insight that a lot of people don't understand: it takes THICK skin to be a millionaire with a supermodel wife and millions of adoring fans, pro bowls, lombardis, etc, to sit there and be unceremoniously berated time and time again in front of the whole team - sometimes for plays that weren't even necessarily your fault. Why? Just so the coach can prove one point: he is lord; he is the final authority; no player is above him; no player is above critcism; every player must be humble. While this might be good to deflate any egos, it's idiotic to do so to a GROWN man who has won you rings and who is as self-critical of his play as any athlete in the history of team sports.
Belichick has ZERO rings without Brady. I genuinely believe that.
For Bill to think that it’s his system that works is so full of it. His system would never work without Tom. Players can’t ask for more money then Tom and because Tom does what’s ask of him you kinda have to fall in line. The last few years shows Tom displeasure of Bill, especially when Giselle comes out and said that Tom just needed to feel appreciated. I get so f ing annoyed when Bill say “defense wins championships”, it’s like a slap in the face for Tom and his offensive when he say shit like that. Listen to some of the Pats Hall of fame induction for the players and you’ll hear him say it a few time.
yeh i respect bill, but was hurt when they kicked brady out
🐐 no more time about who is ❗❗
yes!! goat!!!
I agree Bill is a good coach. As a leader and boss everyone is accountable. If you show favortism you alienate people. Causes issues in locker room. The only thing you hear about Bill is cheap contracts. Just like Brady no real negative comments from players. Most show thanks to him.
I think it was some thinking Brady was gonna drop off. Bill is a historian. History was on his side. Although by watching Brady everyone knew he was different. I think some was ego. One was Kraft said no. Watching Jimmy in Sanfran Kraft was right. Also I truly believe he thought it was coaching. The coaches throwing Brady under the bus was the end. The fact is if not for Brady they where getting fired. Number 1 Qb in NFL and loosing. Although to be fair it takes time to get your system and players in place. To many teams do not give coaches time. One final thought. Brady is a lot like Bill in keeping things private. Do not give media much. Then again how do you trust a group that rips them. Then tries to destroy your legacy. I Love the reactions to stupid questions. I think Brady wishes B.A. would Just zip it sometimes. I know I do.
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This is where we will disagree...bb respect for brady went out the door when the media after SB 39 started the narrative is it "brady or bb"...bb let his ego get involved after that ...and it was as if he needed brady to be knocked off his so called pedestal....when bb went after jimmy g thats when brady went to kraft and said all the discounts i gave i want to retire here ...kraft agreed now to kraft defense they never discussed age or date...when bb threw brady under the bus in deflagate that was enough for me...the only reason the investigators looked at brady was because bb said " you want to know about balls talk to the qb"...i always believed that bb knew that the NFL comm will punish whether guilty or not just because name gets mentioned ....bb needed a way to get jimmy g on the field when you have a quarter back that never misses a snap...bb thought however many games suspended would be enough to showcase how good jimmy g was and maybe persuade kraft and fans to move on from brady...but karma has a way of biting you...and jimmy g injures his knee second game and that ended that quest...but i think deflagate was the beginning of the end for bb and brady...thats why the narrative after brady left and people were saying all brady wanted was that bill want him...that would be correct cant play for a coach not in your corner...and when jimmy g fell through( which had nothing to do with brady..jimmy g did not take the extension bb offered wanted more money...the only thing bb could do was trade or tag..but kraft had a policy that would never force a player to play for pats..so kraft told bb you cant tag him..so bb had no choice but to trade)...bb blamed brady for this because bb could not stand that the qb you want is not like the qb you have and the qb to have is not the qb you want because bb could not take credit for brady the same way he could have done with jimmy g..bb did not scout for brady like he did jimmy g ...bb had to be talked into brady..but bb has to deal with that same qb being the superstar ....also it was how brady wins his games...system qb do not win SB MVP or league MVP...brady was clutch ..clutch play cannot be coached...jimmy g was a true system qb...jimmy g will never be mvp you can see in how he plays..bb could take credit for him..that it was patriot system coaching staff that made jimmy g...after that bombed...bb decided i cant get rid of brady but i sure as hell can make him look bad..brady was just league mvp in 2017 and what did bb do ...got rid of the passing game and went to run heavy....that is a death knoll for a qb...thats why you will never see a tannehilll as mvp..because their star is thier running game derrick henry...49ers kittle...system qb are not on passing teams...that why when brady got first mvp was when pats went from run heavy to pass heavy...when bb went backb to run heavy everyone assumed was because brady declining..no just the personnel declined and brady desire and enthusiasim after SB 52...so no i have no respect for bb...i understand business but there is a way to do things..and the ends justifying the means is why karma is alive and well in NE and BB
Couldn't have said it any better. Great job!
yeh i knew a lot of people would disagree with me about bill. i was really upset at bill for kicking brady out and was devastated to see him leave the pats. believe me, i was really angry about how bill treated brady. but after a lot of reading and also for my own happiness, i decided to take the positive point that bill loved his players and was doing what he thought was best for the pats. obviously belichick was wrong. he certainly was wrong about brady. but i just didn't want to add more hate.
@@TBDtribute no hate ..i have come to terms with reality i am also glad and feel the only way brady was going to continue his special journey was to go to another team....i had just hoped and prayed that he hadnt stayed too long...but destiny had other plans for our guy brady...so i am looking for to it...dont forget to watch the espy awards dont know what time there here will be 8 pm eastern time today...brady nonminated for i think 3 awards....
@@vgb1328 yeh i'm with you. and i had to look at it in that way too. i was getting too emotionally invested and was starting to feel myself get bitter every time i watched the pats and it wasn't me and was ruining my enjoyment. so i just put it down to - brady leaving was a blessing in disguise and he would get his true recognition. which was absolutely true. so it all ended well.
@@vgb1328 yeh i won't be able to watch espy live, can only get highlights on youtube unfortunately. i'm so far behind all the latest news about brady, but i will catch up in a month. i am starting to be smoother and improving a bit. hopefully it'll be much better soon and i can roll when season starts.
Was it Brady or Belichick? That debate’s over. TB12 by a ton! 💪🏽
brady!!
Another great video, I love the add of Pat McAfee! And thank you again. You’re the Goat 🐐 of RUclips channels to me 🙌
I do love this one aspect of football a difference of opinion. Of course I’ll say usually it’s not an opinion and “I know everything” I don’t 😂 it’s just when it comes to football I tell everyone it and they now laugh. However BeliLoser you and I disagree. He shatters egos then tries to build them up his way. He does this not for the players as you think. He does to keep his job Great coach? When? Before Brady literally days before, there was serious talk of him being fired. He did take a winning team and woah make it a losing one fast until TB12. He even quit one season over not getting his way over Jimmy G.! Of course stayed However during super bowl benches Butler and Brady still had an amazing game in spite of. Okay that’s that on that. That’s what I love.
Again thank you 🙏💯✌️🎉❣️
thanks Kiki :))) i'm starting to improve and hopefully be more "natural" as time goes on. i'm really behind on the latest brady enws and i want to post that, but there's not enough time in my day at this stage. i'm hoping i'll have everything smooth out and running well by the time the season starts. i can't wait!!! hope you're having a great weekend :))
i've had to take a postive approach when it comes to bill. i was devastated when bill kicked brady out of the pats. i was so upset that it was ruining my enjoyment of football. so i had to take a more positive view point. that bill does love the palyers and he was doing it for what he thinks was best for the pats. also it was good that brady now has a chance to show he can do it without bill and get his proper recognition. and brady did that. bill obviously was wrong for getting rid of brady, but it was just emotionally draining for me to keep being angry. so i've let it go.
@@TBDtribute Wow just wow. I think you are pretty amazing. If that’s what you had to do. I’m so happy you did.
It didn’t do that for me cos I didn’t like Belichick ever. So it was how it was.
You showed exactly who you are with that post and I have so much more respect and admiration for you...! 💯❣️
@@TBDtribute you’re doing perfect. I am not always the easiest when it comes to football. You beyond won me over. It’s your passion and love and finding something good always. THANK YOU!!! :)
@@ki_tb12 you're amazing Kiki!!! absolutely amazing :)) i truly feel blessed to know people like yourself :)) hope you're having a great weekend!!
Not when you win 6 championships for a coach who's glory comes off your back
yeh brady proved alot after winning sb55
Okay, I understand that BB wants his players to be the best that they can be and that he loves then and all. But when his quarterback performs year after year and wins year after year, he is not "Developing" TB12 anymore. It's time to shift gears and change the dynamics of the relationship to something MORE and it's NOT getting rid of Tom. That's where we all lost respect for BB He treated Tom like shite for the last 4 years. It was not warranted, it was totally disrespectful, he was purposely short changing Tom with play makers and we're all glad Tom won a Super Bowl year one and BB had a losing record!!
bro i completely understand your point. i was so devastated and angry when brady was kicked out of the pats. i was so upset and started becoming bitter. the only way i could enjoy football after that was to look on the positive side and just think belichick was only doing what he thought was best for the team. it was wrong obviously. but that was the only way i could move forward
BB is reconstructing his team, just wait.
i hope the pats have success
In my opinion (And I could make an excellent case in court with my assessment) without Lawrence Taylor or Tom Brady as players who played under Bill (Assistant "D" Coach with the Giants) Bill Belichick wouldn't have one Super Bowl ring..
It's the in-between that is the damning evidence - Bill was an absolute disaster in Cleveland and an equal disaster in New England before Brady *5-13* and after Brady *7-9* - 2020 season - 2 of those 7 wins were against the 2-14 JETS
well you won't have arguments from me. great points
Absolutely spot-on comment. I completely agree. Occam's Razor suggests LT and Brady were far more instrumental to the success of their teams than anything Belichick did.
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Love your content but it was hard to see you defend Bill Belichick doubting Brady’s ability before he let him go. Bill knows as well as Tom he had failed as the GM to draft any decent skill players time and time again. Bill is a HORRIBLE GM but a great coach. The fact that Bill witnessed greatness on the sidelines watching Tom win him ring after ring for 20 years then he gave up on him and basically said “we can’t win with you anymore” I’ll never forgive that betrayal and failure as a coach to appreciate the talent that got Bill 6 rings. That said, I give bill some credit for grooming Tom, but the student surpassed the master long ago.
thanks bro, and i appreciate your point. initially i was pretty upset with how bill treated brady and kicking him out. but after reading the book dynasty, i became a lot softer on bill. no doubt bill made the wrong call to get rid of tom and i was really sad to see him leave the pats. i'm just choosing to take the positive side and hope that bill does care about his players
I think Brady motivated himself. He’s smarter and a better GM and coach than Belichick. Fact. ✌️💯 I enjoyed your post
@@TBDtribute Read following, you will see what made Pats offense system work under Brady, but Pats coaches were completely clueless.
Pats QB coach opens up about Newton's recent struggles
“There’s clearly some times that we haven’t *pulled the trigger fast enough* and therefore we’re hitching a couple extra times or holding onto the ball a little bit longer than we would like to, and that kind of can cause many things,” Fisch said. _“It (holding onto the ball a little bit longer) can cause a negative play, a sack, an interception, an incompletion, a late throw."_
@@TBDtribute "but after reading the book dynasty,"
Now you see that the author was clueless, Belidiot was clueless, Pats coaches were clues.
*The whole offense system depended on Brady's TIMING so that defenders were often 2 or 3 steps too late,* so that Pats receivers were often wide open for YAC; so QB could throw 5 yards on 3rd and 7; so QB didn't have to worry about interception.
*That is something even Peyton and Rodgers couldn't do, and Belidiot and those idiots asked Cam to do.* They didn't realize how hard it was to throw a fraction of a second quicker, and were surprised that Cam couldn't throw 5 yards.
How do we know Belichick is a football genius? Seriously? Why? He had Brady. Is Phil Jackson a genius or did he just have MJ? Was Poppovich really a genius or did he just have Duncan.
Belichick in 8 seasons, a MASSIVE sample size without Brady:
6 losing seasons
0 division titles
1 playoff app
0 conference title games
0 pro bowl qbs
below 18 ppg
"You are what your record says you are."
- Bill Parcells (Bill Belichick's coaching mentor).
And Poppovich has actually done okay without Duncan. Belichick's record without Brady is HORRIBLE. Like if this were ANY other coach in NFL HISTORY we would go:
"yo, is he overrated? He can't without Brady."
And it's not like Brady has had Julio Jones or Antonio Brown this whole time - guys who you DON'T HAVE TO SCHEME OPEN. That's a massive deal. Brady's done this by elevating mediocre talent. I'm sorry, but Edelman on another team would be just another guy. Even WITH Brady I think he's made 1 pro bowl (and he's also led the league in drops multiple times).
Tom Brady's NUMBER ONE WR for years led the NFL in drops, Edelman. Brady made Edelman and he made Belichick.
When he first made the move these guys were laughing at Brady for going to TB, now they all speak as if it was so obvious. Only one of them stuck with Brady through thick and thin.
yeh i know. idiots!!! lol
EXACTLY! Prior to him going to Tampa NOBODY looked at Tampa as a juggernaut. All of a sudden Brady gets there and now it's "oh anybody could've won a Super Bowl with this team (which had 10 losing seasons in 11 years and hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years).
I think the foregone conclusion is that it was "The Tom Brady Way" and not the "The Patriot Way" regarding winning. There is certainly something to say about Bill B. and what he brings, but how many seasons as a head coach did Bill B. record as a winning season, and then how many of those are seasons were with Tom as QB? Is Bill B. riding Tom's coat-tails?
exactly!!! well said
Yeah imo I think so. I think he also rode Lawrence Taylor's coattails as d-coordinator of the Giants. LT was a freak of nature. I have a buddy who played for the Bengals. He said LT was the freakiest defensive player he had ever seen - faster than many running backs, but stronger at the point of contact than any player in the game. That's who he had as Defensive Coordinator under another genius HC in Bill Parcells (not to mention 3 HOFers on defense including Carson and Banks).
As HC of the Patriots he's rode Tom Brady's coattails for years. It never mattered to Brady who got the credit but it mattered to Bill who got the credit. This is why they are no longer together. Brady took LESS MONEY to win. Who does that??? Nobody. Even those who grew up rich like Peyton Manning take as much as they can. This is MILLIONS we are talking about; and there's no guarantee that money will even be effective in yielding additional wins (as we saw by Belichick pocketing much of that money instead of reinvesting it in the offense).
Belichick is overrated. He's a cheapskate and he's getting exposed. 0 division titles in 8 years without Brady. Brady has 17 division titles in 18 years as a starter. Belichick: 0 without Brady.
Think about that for a second.
How did they “sell out” as a team to win? They signed zero top weapons for Brady except for AB who they tossed over a tweet. Not to mention it wasn’t a big contract. Bill spent on defense exclusively and even then hardly “sold out” for the future. That argument is absolutely stupid and easy to prove as nonsense.
week 4 is going to be a great match up. i can't wait
Belichick as HC of the Patriots has rode Tom Brady's coattails for years. It never mattered to Brady who got the credit but it mattered to Bill who got the credit. This is why they are no longer together. Brady took LESS MONEY to win. Who does that??? Nobody. Even those who grew up rich like Peyton Manning take as much as they can.
pressure is on bill now!!!
TBD fix. Ahhh.
good morning bro :))
Bot and all three missed the greatest hurdle . COVID-19 , NEW SYSTEM " NO PRACTICE , NO PRESEASON . EVEN KICK OUT OF THE PARK TRYING TO PRACTICE ! EVERYONE ELSE HAD THEIRS; NOT TOM : ALL NEW and very different !
Yeh super bowl 55 was a crazy season
Bill has a losing record without Brady.
as a head coach yes
BB is a meglomaniac who traded team captains at he start of a number of seasons that blindsided the players. In recent years BB was using the cap to load up the defense and not help Brady (who was accepting paycuts) with receivers so BB could show the world that his "the defensive genius" was the reason for the 20 year success. BB has a LOSING record WITHOUT Brady. He is a good coach but not the goat. I am from NE and watched a lot of the games. TB pulled out over 50 games for BB in the 4th quarter.
yeh pressure is on bill this season. it's crazy. i really hope the pats have success. i was so devastated when brady was gone
Tom Brady has, by a wide margin, the record for double-digit comeback wins.
That ALONE proves it was Brady that made Belichick. Brady, more times, than ANY QB IN HISTORY, brought his team back from 10 points or more in the 4th quarter. Insane.
Thats GOAT status.
The whole argument about Brady being a "System" QB is one of the STUPIDEST and WEAKEST arguments of all time, which should had never been made in the first place, when talking about TB12. So many people, including a ton of former NFL players, had CLEARLY FORGOTTEN that many of the Great NFL QBs to play the game, played in a some type of a "system" during their careers. For instance, the former GOAT QB, Joe Montana played in one of the most successful "Systems", the West Coast Offense, in NFL history, during most of his NFL Career. Hell, even fucking Rodgers played in the "West Coast Offense" for most of his entire career. John Elway and Brett Favre had also played in the "West Coast Offense" as well. And, if my memory serves me correctly, I never recalled anyone constantly making the STUPID FUCKING ARGUMENT about Montana, Rodgers, Elway, Favre, etc. being a "System" QB.
to me brady is the system. yes there are systems, but i don't see the system winning until brady gets there. he proved it at pats and again at bucs
This is the first time I had to stop your video to reply. Bro, Bill Belichick does not care about his players!! Bill Belichick cares about Bill Belichick!!
bro i completely get your point. believe me, i was so devastated when brady got kicked out of the pats. i literally started becoming angrier as a person and was bitter about everything. i had to think positive and just believe bill cared about his players and was only doing what he thought was best for the team. obviously he was wrong for getting rid of brady. but i have to believe that, otherwise i won't enjoy football anymore and will just be angry
I think BB is a poor draft guy.. Brady 6th round? He only drafted him because of 1 man and it was not BB.
dick rehbein!!!
Without TB12 belichic is a losing coach
he definitely needs to win
You're 99.9% right in all your videos EXCEPT for the bit in this video about Belichick. 1000% WRONG. Here's why ... Belichick thinks he's more important than the team. No player has ever gotten a single year salary larger than his (26 mill per year). The Benedict book contains a lot of pro-Belichick propaganda even though, without Brady, in 8 seasons hes been horrible. 0 division titles in 8 years without Brady.
Even Bradys rise to superstardom was fueled by Belichick's ego. Belichick didn't discover Brady, Patriot's scout Dick Rayburn did. Brady wasn't even the first Pat's pick of the 6th round, he was the 2nd pick in the 6th round lol. Belichick got rid of Bledsoe because 1. That was Parcells guy not him (and Belichick is insecure that some people think Parcells is a better coach than him). 2. Bledsoe went 5-13 with Belichick and cost $100 million (a contract that Belichick didn't negotiate, his predecessor did).
3. Belichick thought that if he won with this unheralded 6th round pick, HE, not Tom, would get ALL the credit and that's really what happened for Years. For ages people thought Brady was overrated and that it was all Belichick.
4. Brady took less money and yet was low balled. Belichick, according to the NFLPA, spent less than any other GM in terms of Real Net Cash Roster Spending (the actual money you are paying your players) in the NFL between 2015 and 2020.
5. Belichick wanted Brady out as early as 2017! Do your research Tom Brady Daily. He isn't some nice, paternal figure "who wants the best for his players." That's a LIE. He wants HIS reputation as a genius to override everything else. Brady won MVP in 2017 and Belichick sabotaged Brady. He benched Butler, costing Tom a SB ring. He promptly traded away Cooks AFTER Brady renegotiated. He screwed over Amendola after, AGAIN, Brady took LESS money to keep Danny and Cooks.
Why did he bench Underwood in the superbowl? Why did he bench Butler in the Super Bowl? Why did he trade for Cooks so Jimmy G, NOT BRADY, could have a deep threat? Why did he trade Jimmy G for a 2nd round pick when he had offers for multiple 1st rd picks? Why did Belichick LOW BALL Deion Branch after the 2005 season, after Brady left money on the table? He refused to bring back Bradys favorite WR. What happened? In the 2006 AFCCG a bum wr named Reche Caldwell dropped a key pass that cost the Patriots the game (and likely another Super Bowl ring). That was a direct result of Belichick's toxic ego. Same thing with the Moss negotiations in 2009/2010.
Belichick is a textbook narcissist and egomaniac. HE THINKS his teams win because of HIS genius and thats why he will never win without Brady.
Seymour hates Bill. Ty Law craps on Bill. Lawyer Milloy craps on Bill. A TON of former players dont like Belichick, especially Danny Amendola. Why? Because Bill DEMANDS that every player sacrifice his own goals and EGO for the good of the team. So players sacrifice money and fun to win, and then they win and when it's time to negotiate the contract, Bill low balls them lol. The only person in the Patriots organization who doesn't take a pay cut no matter the performance? BELICHICK.
Brady got sabotaged by Belichick and I genuinely believe that having Belichick as his coach has actually diminished his stats. If he played for a more offensive minded coach, Brady would've won 6 regular season MVPS.
Belichick wanted Brady out as early as 2014 but Brady won the Superbowl so that delayed his plan. Belichick was so desperate to get rid of Brady that Brady had to go BEHIND Belichick's back in order to stay in New England. And in the e d Belichick got rid of him anyways.
Dude, Belichick is toxic and overrated. Bradys offenses (3rd in DVOA) carried the dynasty not the defense (11th in DVOA).
thank you bro, i respect your point. i was so devastated when brady was kicked out of the pats. i was really angry at bill and it was ruining my enjoyment of football. so i had to just think of the positive side - that bill does love his players, he was doing what he thought was best for the pats (even though it was wrong), and it gave brady the opportunity to show the world he can win without bill and get his proper recognition. honestly i had to go down that route, cause i was at a point where i didn't want to watch football anymore cause it would make me so upset
Feynman. Incredible evaluation of the situation at hand!! Thanks for saying it. So much gaslighting in regards to hoodie. Tom seems happy now in Tampa and thriving and footballing.
Dude, this is brilliant. This Brady - Belichick beef reminds me of MJ's The Last Dance documentary on Netflix when Jerry Krause, the Chicago Bulls GM, idiotically sabotaged the Bulls Dynasty because of his massive ego a la Belichick. This is an excellent summary of the soap opera that has characterized the Belichick - Brady beef.
Turns out the Wickersham article was pretty spot on. Belichick really is getting exposed. A coach like Andy Red is a great juxtaposition to Belichick. They both have family members who were affiliated with the military, both are very studious and rigorous. Reid is more loose and laid back, Belichick is very militaristic and rigid. Brady made the players buy-in, not Belichick - and Belichick never understood this. Like most very intelligent people, he also has a big ego and I think he really started to believe his own hype.
Now he gets to prove it. If he can make the playoffs this season I might re-evaluate my stance, but until then Belichick looks super-duper, like astronomically, overrated.
I agree and I believe BB and McDaniels held Brady back with their dunk and dink pass calling and having 3 hobbit wide receivers. I wouldn't trade Edelman or Amendola for anyone but if we had a Randy Moss deep threat on our team, we would have more Super bowl wins and Brady would have smashed all the records years ago!!! Stephen A is right. If TB had weapons, he'd still be in New England. TB12 wanted a multi year deal and BB wouldn't even give him a 2 year deal!! Screw BB. I hope the Bucs whip the Patriots so bad BB's job is on the line!!! Don't forget, Belichick wouldn't have been able to control the players if Brady didn't let him berate him!
There's 31 other coaches out there that all would be coach of fame if they were at patriots with tom brady,, nothing to do with billichick,
brady makes hall of famers!!!
the guy in sweat shirt seems to be Bellichic's man. Tom Brady took so many pay cuts!!!!!
He did not move because of money, he moved because stupid and mean bellichic w'nt give him 2 years contract that tom wanted. Mean bellichick convinced robert about tom being too old. robert was
ungrateful. he should have insisted that tom will retire from New England. he made billions bec of tom brady but that was not enough for him. bellichic did not even win 50% of his games this year. he has never won a season without tom brady.bellichic is a RASCAL. He has hurt so many great players.
yeh it is crazy bro. i get upset everytime i think about it. i just want brady to repeat and keep on winning and proving them all wrong!!!
Without Tom, Bill has a 43% win rate, he has a 76% win rate with Tom, so the x factor is Tom
can't disagree mate. hope you've been well :)))
Thank you buddy, I have been as well as a 74 year old man can be.
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So they sold out? Bullshit! Brady was given lemons and made lemonade. Bill's a great coach. His attention to detail and knowledge is 2nd to none. Great defensive game planner. But Jerry Jones, a terrible GM, is better at acquiring talent on the offensive side of the ball. For the better part of 5 years Belichick did nothing but tarnish Brady's legacy. Trying to dump him for Jimmy G., cheating scandals, little to no talent for Brady to work with, letting everyone think it was his system, and never giving Brady his proper credit. Well, 1 year with Brady on a new team and we have the answer. Brady haters are still holding on hoping that Brady fails, but unless his arm falls off all of a sudden or he's, heaven forbid, injured, forget about it. The man's going to simply do what he's done for his entire college and pro careers, prove people wrong.
You know how teams get cursed by letting players go? The curse of the Bambino in Boston, the curse of Doug Flutie in Buffalo? Well, I think the Pats are deserving of one for what they did to Brady too.
yeh bro, i can't argue with what you say. i was so devastated when brady left/kicked out of pats. i'm glad he's having a tonne of success now though. proving everyone wrong...again. and winning
You are too nice. I think Bill has a dark side. He was a bully with reporters. He has made terrible draft decisions. He was losing with Bledsoe. Brady took over and gave Bill 20 years of winning. Bill didnt Brady's greatness at the beginning nor the end. Bill put Pats in a horrible position. Kicked out the Goat to replace with Cam and rookie Mac. Bill deserves what is coming...the Brady Curse Will hang around Bill the rest of his life.
bro i get your point completely. i'm reposting my coaches and mentors video in a few days with commentary and i'll explain why i lean that way with belichick. believe me i was devastated when brady was kicked out of the pats. it was so upsetting. i couldn't enjoy football and had to take a positive stance for me to watch it again
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I appreciate your emotional involvement. Here in Tampa last year, i had a difficult personal life plus covid. I found Brady coming to the Bucs finally gave me something to cheer about and distract me. The more I learned about Brady the more I became curious about Belichick. Im wishing all NEP fans and players well, but Belichick is a little different. For him, I wish the BRADY CURSE👹👿👽☠👹🤣
i hope things are better for you this year bro. i'm an australian and haven't been watching nfl for anywhere near as long as everyone on here has. so i don't have a team. however i'm a massive brady fan and support him at whichever team he goes to. i was just so upset that the pats kicked him out after everything he's done. i'm so glad brady's proved others wrong at the bucs and getting his deserves
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Your story is fascinating. You certainly found a great subject. Tom Brady is a phenomenon. American Football is a fantastic sport. Thanks for all your hard work and passion. The fireworks are about to begin!💥
Bro food coma kills the best of us LOLOL...
And Bro to me it's not about Bill Belichick didn't give Brady the weapons he needed... to me it's about partnering... Coulda Shoulda Woulda but if Bill Belichick had realized after the Super Bowl 4 win what he had with Brady then they could have still been winning Super Bowls to this day... BB's disciplinarian style wouldn't have been needed towards Brady if he had truly understood Brady's single mindedness/obsession and partnered with him much the way JJ partnered back in the day with Troy... Such a shame...such a waste. The proof is in last season... Like your video shows ppl are actually taking less money to play with Brady... Because it gives them the best chance of winning a ring... So simple
hahahaha. i was stumbling everywhere. damn it was hard. lol
Belichick is criminally overrated. He had Brady. Is Phil Jackson a genius or did he just have MJ? Was Poppovich really a genius or did he just have Duncan.
Belichick in 8 seasons, a MASSIVE sample size, without Brady:
6 losing seasons
0 division titles
1 playoff app
0 conference title games
0 pro bowl qbs
below 18 ppg
"You are what your record says you are."
- Bill Parcells (Bill Belichick's coaching mentor)
Bill Belichick without Brady is a trash head coach.
Belichick cares about his players?!? Hey Aussie-what are you smoking’ mate? Bill could give a shit about anybody but Bill, as evidenced by his trading of marquee players all his career. Then he tries to run the GOAT out of town for Jimmy G (a serviceable backup at best). Stick to rugby mate. 🤦🏽♂️
bro i get your point. i was devastated when brady was kicked out of the pats. i was so angry and bitter i couldn't enjoy football anymore. i have to believe that bill loves his players and was only doing what he thought was best for the team. obviously bill was wrong. but i need to believe the positive otherwise i won't enjoy football anymore cause it just makes me too upset
Facts
Ya know they kept calling this..a "genius"... til he finally believed it..ha ha..so he finally fell in luv w/ himself....well all I know is he wasn't such a " genius" in cleveland..& wasn't exactly a household name b/4 T.B.12..showed up...!!! In fact they had Drew Bledsoe..for 9 yrs...an all pro q.b....w/ a high contract..& never came close to s/b...status...I .the only time Mr.B.B...came close to "genius".. is when they took a chance on TB.12...& the rest was history....T.B.12,S...History!!!
yeh i was really upset and devastated when brady was forced out of NE. i just gotta keep thinking bill was doing it in the best interest of the team. he was clearly wrong. but if i don't think that way, i'll just hate football
Love Tom, love what he did here. But I'm a Pats fan. In Bill We Trust. Tom was an unproven talent, and Bill was chastised for not going back to Bledsoe. He's earned the respect and leeway. Even if we never make it back to the SB under Bill, he gave us Tom and the good year's.
yeh that's the spirit i choose to take too bro. i was sad to see tom leave the pats, but i couldn't attack bill
@@TBDtribute I can’t. I wish I could. I know that Brady has knives in back he’s still taking out. Belichick didn’t choose Brady. He finally said okay pick him up cos he was being pushed. Why put Bledsoe back in? He was knocked out on another losing season under Belichick. Second one. Oh i must remind you before Belichick that Bledsoe was Patriots fans hope. Went to a super bowl and all. Belichick comes they look pathetic until Brady. TBD I understand why you’re doing it.
However mtorgrern you just may forget. Also he wasn’t chastised for not putting Bledsoe in. He was actually being looked at and it was all over at least New England that if he put Bledsoe in he set himself up to lose and fired. Again he left while losing. Brady took the losing season and took the team to the super bowl and won. Bledsoe never could have. I’m not being disrespectful so please don’t take it that way. It’s just facts I know. ✌️
@@ki_tb12 he was chastised 😂 the run up to the playoffs, the thread was "when is Bledsoe going in, should Bill stay with the kid" even the playoff game where Tom got hurt, and Drew came in to close it out, the news outlets were pushing for Drew to stay as starter. Bill stuck with Tommy
@@mtorngren15 I wouldn’t tell me what happened. Js. I know exactly what happened. 🙃 I mean exactly as I eh nvm. Laugh if you only knew 😎
Ha@you calling him Tommy and again you throwing out false news. Don’t reply to me with false news. Ty.
@@ki_tb12 false news? Show me, please.
You have too good an opinion of Bill Belichick.
The Drill Sargeant way in which he coaches and the inhumane way he treated and undermined Tom Brady has ZERO to do with his coaching style and more to do with jealousy.
I submit to you that he watched Tom Brady for 20 years and we all know Tom Brady has HIGH CHARACTER, Bill saw the way Tom quietly accepted his abuse but still played at a high level.
The team saw how Tom constantly made lemonade out of the lemons he was provided on Offense despite the fact that he constantly took less money.
The reason Bill Belichick wanted Tom out was because Tom had the hearts and minds of the lockeroom AND Bob Kraft.
Bill wanted to reign supreme.
It is very clear to me that Tom Brady won 6 SuperBowls DESPITE BILL BELICHICK and If Bill had treated him the way Bruce Arians did,The Patriots would probably have been 10 for 10 in SuperBowls if not more.
This is why Tom Brady won as soon as he left. His greatness as a leader and his vision and his spirit were ALL being hampered and suppressed by Bill Belichick.
If ANYONE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO OBSERVE TOM BRADY'S GREATNESS IT WAS BILL
and he actually thought Jimmy G was better than Brady and was the future of the franchise.This should tell you how competent Belichick is.I suspect he didn't really think Garopolo was better but His problem with Brady was personal.
Bill Belichick will NEVER WIN ANOTHER SUPERBOWL without Tom Brady.
Because the "Patriots way"was actually Tom Brady all along.
And DEEP DOWN Belichick knows it.
I just prefer to lean positive where I can
@@TBDtribute Yes I understand.
You and Tom Brady have that in common.
no dissrespect dude, good videos. but you are runing it for me with your own inputs.
no offense taken bro. believe me, i really don't want to put my own commentary in. however youtube requires me to do it otherwise they will delete my account. it takes me an extra 1-2hr of work to add my own commentary and i'd rather not do it. they've already had me delete 150 videos already. so this is the only way i can do it. i'm sorry that it's bad
Mario andic...try to be supportive he is trying very hard
@@vgb1328 hahaha. thank you. don't worry i'm going to get better. there's no way but up from where i'm at. lol
@@TBDtribute That's 1 person's opinion. I think your inputs makes it 100x better and your content was already good. Don't let one knucklehead derail you from the great content you are producing. I know you are doing it to avoid copyright issues, but you have started a great thing. Keep up the good work.
he's doing it to avoid copyright issues asshole.. if you don't like it don't watch it.
Bill and Tom grew up together . Bill and Tom grew apart , you guys make it sound like this hasn't happened before. Tom is great however he wasn't the guy in the early years. Just saying how did Tom do against the giants? He had moss against the giants. Why not give Tom all the credit. Just saying!!
i'm not sure what you mean regarding giving tom all the credit bro. i do agree with you about bill and tom though. i think as a fan it was hard to see tom leave the pats. for me there was a real sense of loss. i love him at the bucs now though
No doubt you like him. Regarding giving credit that was sarcasm
Nonsense. Brady LED the NFL in TD Passes in 2002 WITHOUT a single Pro Bowl receiver. Do you know how difficult that is? Then Brady LED the NFL in TD Yards in 2005, again, WITHOUT a single pro bowl WR. Brady was top 5 in MVP voting TWICE before 2007. Brady LED the Patriots to a top 7 scoring offense EVERY SINGLE SEASON before he won MVP in 2007. Brady, as his best WR in 2006 being Reche Caldwell, to one Reche Caldwell drop in the 2006 AFCCG from going to another Super Bowl and likely spanking Rex Grossman and the Bears.
Brady basically had Moss for ONE season - zero chemistry. And Brady, after ONE off-season wherein they couldnt practice much together because Moss had a hamstring problem all training camp, proceeds to throw for 50 TDS and goes 16-0 in a regular season, and a feat NO OTHER TEAM IN NFL HISTORY has ever done.
If you're implying that arguably the luckiest play in Super Bowl history, the Tyree catch, somehow means Moss and Brady were a failure, you are sorely mistaken. Brady also played that game with a high ankle sprain - fun fact. A 100% fully healthy Brady likely has better mobility, at least enough to move in the pocket. He almost beat the Giants with a high ankle sprain lol. And true to form, he NEVER uses that as an excuse.
www.bostonherald.com/2008/01/23/brady-high-ankle-sprain/
There's 31 other coaches out there that all would be coach of fame if they were at patriots with tom brady,, nothing to do with billichick,
yeh i'm pretty sure that's true. brady makes hall of famers