It's very atmospheric, the voices are clear and play with each other! They play together, and the surround sounds of the voices are also very good, the voices are really atmospheric....... All sounds are very natural and captured.....But in a way that doesn't distort and doesn't wash nothing......Amazing...!!!!! Congratulations on your persistence!!!! Gusztávius
Thank you for videos and quality content you post. You inspired me also to build Lumine, waiting for parts already. I highly appreciate your skills and competent approach of building audio equipment.
Great components and very nice craftsmanship. Two suggestions: 1. the woofer opening should be chamfered from behind it will have more room to breathe and will have less compression and reflections. the crossover components are very nice and very large - they take lot of room in the enclosure - not sure if accounted for and also these will reflect sound back to the cone of the mid-bass. Placing the the large crossover out of the box will give you more space to treat the cabinet acoustically. Good luck mate!
I appreciate your two wonderful suggestions. I will support them altogether. Although the internal volume of the enclosure is optimized, the problem of vibration remains. I should further optimize the flow of the air flow including the port. You are a wonderful friend for me. I respect your advanced knowledge. Good luck master!
Nice work. Two questions; Would not those big capacitors and other crossover components decrease significantly the internal box volume? Did you use any stuffing or filling inside the cabinet and how much? Thanks
+oscar leal Thanks for watching! I think that it is great pointed out. Perhaps you are speaker engineers. Content volume was compensated. There is a problem of the standing wave. It is not good to alter the ratio. There is an internal reinforcement. It is a ceramic tile. Subtle irregularities due to parts and tiles. Sound-absorbing material is felt for shoes. high density type. Best regards lyd.
Thank you for videos and quality content you post. I also decided to build speakers like this. I found drawings where the outer dimensions of the speakers are 7 * 13.5 * 9.5 inches. But nowhere can I find the thickness of the wall and front panel. Please quote these measurements when using American walnut. Sincerely
www.madisound.com/pdf/Lumine1cabinetdrawing.pdf There are three things you should consider: 1: Volume of X-OVER parts 2: Standing wave 3: Internal volume Assuming that the thickness of the board is 18 mm. In DIY, the influence of the installation environment, baffle step compensation, and volume of parts is larger, so such an assumption is acceptable. By the way, I extended the box in the depth direction.
@@seaslyd Thank You for your prompt and detailed reply. It just seemed to me in your video that the thickness of the side walls is quite large, about 30 mm. and since this is pure wood (not MDF) I decided it was intentional to reduce resonance. Ok, then I will build the front wall 35 mm the other 20 mm. Do You think it will be okay? And by the way, how much did You increase the depth?
The low frequency characteristic depends only on the internal volume. Therefore, increase the depth direction so that the internal volume increases by the same amount as the volume of the X-OVER PARTS you use. Use the simulation app to observe how the volume changes and how the low frequency characteristics change accordingly. You already know the T.S. parameters required for it.
Al Garay Cabinet was made by "SAMURAINOHAKO". I can't make such beautiful wood work box, and loudspeaker unit also. SEAS, SCANSPEAK and SAMURAINOHAKO are very good company. "Lack of bass" is cause of recording equipment, I don't have very expensive recorder, sorry... In addition, if I record very good sound, perhaps JASRAC will delete my account. I'm not youtuber, it's my hobby, not my specialty. SAMURAINOHAKO www.samurainohako.com/
+Billy Jean Пожалуйста, свяжитесь с MADISOUND. www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/2-way-speaker-kits/lumine-one-2-way-speaker-kit/ Окно Speaker доступен для покупки на Тейлором громкоговорителями. www.taylorspeakers.com/html/lumin.html Ваша комната и усилитель очень хорошо.
Great speakers and terrific job building these speakers. I’m puzzled by the parts you use for the crossover. You use more parts than on the drawing. I like vekry much to duplicate these speakers. Could you please provide the changed drawing of the crossover an list of parts of this crossover?
Antiresonance occurs when low ESR capacitors are connected in parallel. However, X-OVER does not output that frequency band. Connecting very small capacitors of polystyrene or polycarbonate in parallel produces a fascinating sound.
Thanks for your response! The smallest capacitors look alike but are they the same? Could you please specify the ones which are used here? Partly this is visable in the video, partly not!
Thanks again for your quick response! I’m beginning to get the picture: In the Tweeter circuit 3 capacitors are used parallel. 1: Clarity Cap 12 MFD, 2: ERO MKP 1832 0.47 MFD, 3: one of the 2 small copper foil capacitors (the one with the text SG2B 152J); In the woofer circuit also 3 capacitors are used parallel: 1: West Cap C 45805 12 MFD, 2: ERO MKC 1860 0,47 MFD, 3 the other copper foil capacitor (the one with unreadable text). Is this correct sofar? Can you tell me which copper foil capacitor is used in the tweeter circuit and which in the woofer circuit?
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That is one extraordinary crossover! The build quality here is to be commended. Bravo!
It's very atmospheric, the voices are clear and play with each other! They play together, and the surround sounds of the voices are also very good, the voices are really atmospheric....... All sounds are very natural and captured.....But in a way that doesn't distort and doesn't wash nothing......Amazing...!!!!! Congratulations on your persistence!!!! Gusztávius
Thank you for videos and quality content you post. You inspired me also to build Lumine, waiting for parts already. I highly appreciate your skills and competent approach of building audio equipment.
Great components and very nice craftsmanship. Two suggestions: 1. the woofer opening should be chamfered from behind it will have more room to breathe and will have less compression and reflections. the crossover components are very nice and very large - they take lot of room in the enclosure - not sure if accounted for and also these will reflect sound back to the cone of the mid-bass.
Placing the the large crossover out of the box will give you more space to treat the cabinet acoustically. Good luck mate!
I appreciate your two wonderful suggestions.
I will support them altogether. Although the internal volume of the enclosure is optimized, the problem of vibration remains.
I should further optimize the flow of the air flow including the port.
You are a wonderful friend for me. I respect your advanced knowledge.
Good luck master!
Thank you for the reply. Have a great time with your audio adventures. Cheers!
Impressed with the parts quality. Thanks for sharing.
thanx for listening!
love videos like these. The satisfaction it must bring you building them yourself must be amazing! Now I'm gonna have to give it a go sometime.
I am very happy that I can listen to music with this speaker.
DIY brought good results.
Nice work. Two questions; Would not those big capacitors and other crossover components decrease significantly the internal box volume? Did you use any stuffing or filling inside the cabinet and how much?
Thanks
+oscar leal Thanks for watching!
I think that it is great pointed out.
Perhaps you are speaker engineers.
Content volume was compensated.
There is a problem of the standing wave. It is not good to alter the ratio.
There is an internal reinforcement. It is a ceramic tile. Subtle irregularities due to parts and tiles.
Sound-absorbing material is felt for shoes. high density type.
Best regards lyd.
Could you Please tell me where you got your crossover components from please
Thank you for videos and quality content you post. I also decided to build speakers like this. I found drawings where the outer dimensions of the speakers are 7 * 13.5 * 9.5 inches. But nowhere can I find the thickness of the wall and front panel. Please quote these measurements when using American walnut. Sincerely
www.madisound.com/pdf/Lumine1cabinetdrawing.pdf
There are three things you should consider:
1: Volume of X-OVER parts
2: Standing wave
3: Internal volume
Assuming that the thickness of the board is 18 mm.
In DIY, the influence of the installation environment, baffle step compensation, and volume of parts is larger, so such an assumption is acceptable.
By the way, I extended the box in the depth direction.
@@seaslyd Thank You for your prompt and detailed reply. It just seemed to me in your video that the thickness of the side walls is quite large, about 30 mm. and since this is pure wood (not MDF) I decided it was intentional to reduce resonance. Ok, then I will build the front wall 35 mm the other 20 mm. Do You think it will be okay? And by the way, how much did You increase the depth?
The low frequency characteristic depends only on the internal volume.
Therefore, increase the depth direction so that the internal volume increases by the same amount as the volume of the X-OVER PARTS you use.
Use the simulation app to observe how the volume changes and how the low frequency characteristics change accordingly.
You already know the T.S. parameters required for it.
Thank You!
Love your work. Can you make a video of your speaker cabinet build process? Do you find the need for more bass when listening to music?
Al Garay
Cabinet was made by
"SAMURAINOHAKO". I can't make such beautiful wood work box, and loudspeaker unit also. SEAS, SCANSPEAK and SAMURAINOHAKO are very good
company.
"Lack of bass" is cause of
recording equipment, I don't have very expensive recorder, sorry...
In addition, if I record very good sound,
perhaps JASRAC will delete my account. I'm not youtuber, it's my hobby, not my specialty.
SAMURAINOHAKO
www.samurainohako.com/
Nice work dude everything's amazing sound -design .........and music taste congrats :-)
thx for watching(^^♪
Anywhere those enclosures can be bought together with the kit ?
SAMURAINOHAKO
www.samurainohako.com/
+seas- lyd а они доставляют в Россию? Для 20 метровой комнаты хватит таких? Усилитель 55вт на канал при 8 омах
Спасибо за ответ!
+Billy Jean
Пожалуйста, свяжитесь с MADISOUND.
www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/2-way-speaker-kits/lumine-one-2-way-speaker-kit/
Окно Speaker доступен для покупки на Тейлором громкоговорителями.
www.taylorspeakers.com/html/lumin.html
Ваша комната и усилитель очень хорошо.
Hello, I would say the whole section on crossover how much it cost? thank you
sorry for my english
diego esposito
MADISOUND
www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/welcome.php
Great speakers and terrific job building these speakers. I’m puzzled by the parts you use for the crossover. You use more parts than on the drawing. I like vekry much to duplicate these speakers. Could you please provide the changed drawing of the crossover an list of parts of this crossover?
Antiresonance occurs when low ESR capacitors are connected in parallel. However, X-OVER does not output that frequency band. Connecting very small capacitors of polystyrene or polycarbonate in parallel produces a fascinating sound.
Thanks for your response! The smallest capacitors look alike but are they the same? Could you please specify the ones which are used here? Partly this is visable in the video, partly not!
MKC1860(yellow)、MKP1832(blue)、Copper foil polystyrene capacitor.
0.1~0.47uF and 270~6700pF.
Thanks again for your quick response! I’m beginning to get the picture: In the Tweeter circuit 3 capacitors are used parallel. 1: Clarity Cap 12 MFD, 2: ERO MKP 1832 0.47 MFD, 3: one of the 2 small copper foil capacitors (the one with the text SG2B 152J); In the woofer circuit also 3 capacitors are used parallel: 1: West Cap C 45805 12 MFD, 2: ERO MKC 1860 0,47 MFD, 3 the other copper foil capacitor (the one with unreadable text). Is this correct sofar? Can you tell me which copper foil capacitor is used in the tweeter circuit and which in the woofer circuit?
you are rightｓ
152J is a copper foil styrene capacitor, and WFs is a 6700PFD copper foil polypropylene
インターネットでユニットを探してみましたが、もう無いのですかね。みつかりませんでした。
These are ultra nice sounding, I know..
thanks for listening!
scanspeak lumineとseas bifrostのとてもいい音に驚き、diy speakerに興味を持ったので少し調べて見たのですが、lumineのキットにもbifrostのキットにも吸音材についての記述がないように思ったのですが、どうしているのでしょうか？（自作スピーカーに対する知識が殆ど無いのと、英語に自信があるわけでは無いので、頓珍漢な事を言っていたらスミマセン 汗）
お聴き頂き、ありがとうございます。
箱の固有振動、定在波の管理は、とても難しく、音の良さと特性の良さがなかなか両立しないようです。ですが、SONICSというメーカーの設計者、ヨアヒム・ゲルハルトの手法が現在のところ一番おススメです。
まず、箱の内部の要所に、セラミックタイルを張って、振動のコントロールをします。参考画像です。
www.6moons.com/audioreviews/sonics/argenta.html
ホームセンターと、100円ショップで、セラミックのタイルとエポキシ接着剤を入手、内部の適当な位置に張り付けて、側面の板の振動をダンプします。タイルの表面は、靴底の断熱用の密度の高いフェルトでカバーします。
タイルで補強する「ツボ」は、このサイトを参考にするとよいでしょう。
www.geocities.jp/info_rakugakusha/Eigen_3.html
その他の吸音材は、密度の高いポリエステル綿を棒状に切って、Uの字型に箱の内部に入れます。隙間は、ふわふわの綿をホワッと入れます。すべて量は少なめで。ポリエステルがよいのか、シンサレートなのか、はよくわかりませんが、密度を変える、のがコツだとは思います。
ある一定の周波数での「共振」「固有振動」が、有害な雑音として聴感上検知されるのを防ぎたい、という目的ですので、DIYの場合は、固有振動や定在波をあまり気にしないで、聴感を優先して、少しづつ足したり引いたりして設置環境に合わせてゆく、のが良いと思います。入れすぎるとつまらない音になる傾向があるからです。
たまに見かけるのですが、ゴムでダンプして、スポンジを張る、という柔らか系は、音に「ハリ」がなくなるので、お勧めいたしません。
お返事をいただきありがとうございます。
私の周りにオーディオをやっている人がおらず、また、あれこれ教えてくれるような先人のつてもないので、とても勉強になります。
動画もいつも参考になっています。
素晴らしいスピーカーですね。今までは長岡さんのバックロードフォーンしか作ったことがなくて、結局無垢材で作ってくれる人に頼んで、作ってもらったスピーカーを使ってます。ネットワークを使ったことはなく、ネエトワークが不安ですね。
スピーカーの箱もがっちりとしてますが、無垢材でしょうか。自分ではDIYは無理かな。このスピーカーを作ってくれるところがあるといいですね。
DIYと言っても、もちろん箱は特注品です。ネットワークにマルチキャップテクノロジーを採用してDIYいたしました。
www.woodpocket.jp/o-da.html
この工房の第161例がほぼ同じもののようです。（ここは利用したことはまだありません）自分のはSAMURAINOHAKOという工房でしたが、現在は休業中のようです。
ユニットはMADISOUNDで購入するのが本来の姿のようですが、クレジットその他のトラブルを回避したければ日本の代理店なら安心です。手数料はかかります。
www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/2-way-speaker-kits/lumine-one-2-way-speaker-kit/
www.maronieaudio.com/item/spdrv/scanspeak.html
他には横浜ベイサイドネット、小泉無線、MIXELが有名です。購入可能かもしれません。
どうせやるなら基板の完成ネットワークを使うのではなく、MUNDORFの大型ハイエンドコンデンサ・巻き線抵抗・箔巻きコイルでDIYすればより良い結果を得られそうです。
ただ、大型パーツを内部にインストールする場合は、エンクロージャーの奥行方向を延長し、内容積の補正をする必要があります。正確なバスレフ動作は内容積と関係があります。その場合の定在波の分散に関しては大型パーツの配置で内部形状が計算可能な典型的なパターンにはなりませんので諦めました。
@@seaslyd :青地の下の所はドル表示ですが、日本の国名がありませんでした。日本の業者ではないのでしょうか。下の3つの日本の業者ではこのスピーカーは見つけられませんでした。
大変失礼いたしました。このページに「HOMEへ戻る」がないんですね。
マロニエオーディオという福島？かどこかの輸入代理店です。
www.maronieaudio.com
メールしたら親切に面倒を見てくれました。価格はドル円レートで変動するので日本円表示がないのだと思います。
@@seaslyd マロニエオーディオのEmailがヤフーメールのままで繋がりません。倒産のネット情報もないし、今どうなっているのでしょうか？
最初のマディサウンドさんでは国名を入れるようになっていますが、日本がありません。なかなか難しいですね。
横浜ベイサイドネットにあるようです。
www.baysidenet.jp/c-item-list?keyword=&category_id=305&multi_category=false&chk_name=&chk_exp=&chk_stock=false&chk_type=false&favorite_div=-1&price_st=&price_ed=&rel_tag=&parent_category_id=10&price_id=&keyword_id=&page_category_id=305&scnt=12&sort=0&p=1
speaker cable type?
inakustik PRM-1.5S
ナノテック・システムズ SP#79 Special
You need more damping they sound a bit boxy....
box sounds boxy. it's true.
What songs
youtube free music
ДА ТЫ ПРЯМ ХИРУРГ.
+Михаил Спринчан
У меня есть контракт с правительством.
У меня есть обязанность сохранять конфиденциальность.
конечно, это шутка!