I come for the guides and Jesse awesomeness, and I am treated with great music too! Great job, thanks for the guide, and congrats on the server first kill.
a good tip for tanks: when your tanking riplimb, stay close to a crystal trap. when the spear is being throw get the dog in there. this way you can get both tanks to let the debuff drop without a lot of running around. this does ask a lot more of both tanks but works reasonably well when done correctly. this is a mainly 10 man tactic.
I find it really really cool that you stick with these game BGMs (or remixes of them). I think they are much more suited for these kind of videos than these normal linkin park or whatever tracks :D
@TwinkyDFTBA You don't have to threat dance at all. You can simply follow the strategy we applied in this video. We originally considered the threat swap ala Heroic Lady Death whisperer, but with reduced effectiveness from MDs and Tricks, we quickly decided to just let our geared tanks play the slots and try to remove their own debuffs. I personally have not done ten man but with the Face Rage hotfixing one of your issues, I can all but assure you this strat can work perfectly in both 10 and 25
@Fablesim This boss dropped 2 Eternal Embers. Other bosses we have downed have dropped between 1 and 3 embers as well as 1 living ember from every 25 man boss. However, apparently 10 man has a much lower chance to drop Eternal embers, sometimes dropping 1 or none, and similarly dropping 0-1 Living embers.
@Bradjg1978 i think what it is is that when riplimb dies, he no longer throws his spear since the dog isnt there to retrieve it, so he just slams his spear into the ground at his feet, causing the main tank to be in the epicenter of it's blast..which then radiates out through all the melee dps. its just like the thrown spear though, as far as i know, its just worst possible placement.
Ty for the guide. Really simple to understand and follow. Only tried the Spider so far, not that hard, and we didn't continue cause some peeps failed to show up today >.> PS: Final Fantasy 8 Black Mages song ftw :P
@Blackhammer99 We also had our top mage focus on Rageface the entire time until he died to avoid the major amount of damage he does on player with face rage. He was the most reliable to get a 30k crit the fastest. so we had no problem with that.
@EasyEpro9 Smart move, however they changed the amount of damage Rageface is dealing upon focusing a target. Should make it much more manageable. Pretty much every time he "Raged a face" of one of our members, they died unless they had some cooldown to pop or immediately got a Blessing of Protection.
@MrNikosNikolaidis 2 Tanks: Paladin on Shannox, Warrior on Rageface. 7 Healers: 3 paladins focused on the tanks, a druid and 2 shaman healing the raid, and one Mojomaker casting Healing rain and chain heal on one target
Jesse, great guide. I know this raid tier is fun for our healers, they say they have a lot more to do now. It was a challenge getting used to ninja changes done to this boss but once you get him down once it should be a cakewalk next week. Which is what I want all boss fights to be like. t11 had way too much RNG involved and relied too heavily on split second interrupts. Melee have a lot of responsibility this tier as well but it's more fun than last tier.
@Praxxz We resort to physical violence IRL. We also have a commissioner that levies hefty fines. But honestly, we tend to get irritated only when it's stupid or repeated mistakes, we raid two days a week and still strive to remain competitive, so we demand professionalism and expect people to be their best...8 hours a week isn't a lot to ask.
@killer32112 It's the start of the patch, aka before Blizzard nerfs everything to hell, so it's not 'easy'. It really depends on everyone. If you ACT like it's insanely tough and are aware of everything going on, then it's actually a pretty tame fight, but if you space out or otherwise don't take it seriously, WIPE. Bear in mind this is a brand new fight, and a brand new tempo for everyone to adjust to. Heck, me and many other guildies kept tripping the traps. Either way it's fun!
This is just to anyone looking into tactics. In my personal opinion, this is by far the easiest boss in Firelands. Beth'tilac is all about healing and execution, Rhyolith is hard due to its gimmick BUT its also very easy in its req. part, the gimmick you just get used to with experience. 1 tactic we use in our guild is: Nuke rageface and kill him asap, his dmg will be alot more than what boss will output with his extra buff, then melee switch to boss and ranged on riplimb, Shannox 35%, kill dog.
My guild downed shannox on Tuesday and we used a slightly different strat. We immediately downed rageface to keep him from causing too much raid damage and pushing more of the damage to the tank so the healers could have only two main focus points. Main and Off tank. After that we brought Shannox down to 35% and riplimb to 10% then downed riplimb and so on and so forth. 2nd Shannox kill on the server :)
@OMFGcata I just wish Rift was larger. I like all the races of WoW and rolling a new toon just to see the starting area. Rift lacks that, but it does compensate with other things.
@MrWarLore it also more of a pain when you want to turn in 10 quests you just spent 1 hour doing and you get to the givers and a big ass elite rift has opened on them and is killing them.
hi jesse really love your vids (witcher 2 AWESSSSSOME!) and minecraft ofc ^^ but i really want to know which program you are using to edit you vids with :), im thinking about uploading some vids myself but i dont have any program to edit :( ---->A HUUUge fan of you :P
@OMFGcata We just downed shannox. Took us 10 attempts from never seeing it to downing. I would say it is by far the easiest boss in FL. Beth took us 2 nights of wiping to get.
@OMFGcata hey i have a question.when your trying to kill the dogs before the start of phase 2 does the boss still drop the immolation trap?if he does couldnt you try to bring a pet to it to do damage?
Hey there Jesse, there is a new MMO coming out called Dragon Nest. It is made by Nexon and Eyedentity games. It had anime style graphics, and won at E3 for best PVP award. I would be honoured if you were to check it out, open beta testing is on July 26.
This is actually much harder in 10man, we just nuked down rageface immediately so that we don't have to deal with raid damage, and then you have to threat dance TWO mobs and just tank riplimb and Shannox and super heal the tank that has them both, when you need to drop stacks you just have to OT pop threat cds and pulls them both off him.
Gave this a brief shot today and I was wondering about the jagged tear falling off during spear fetch. from the looks of it, it doesnt seem to take 30 seconds for riplimb to grab the spear and carry it back. How did you increase the time? we didnt kite shannox away during the fetch so this have a considerable effect.
@Japskidin 10 Man may arguably be more "difficult" but each mechanic is far more forgiving on 10 man. Where something may kill one person in 10, it may kill 3 or 4 in 25 man. Respectively, healing 25 man becomes easier only because you have the room for extra healers provided you have everyone maximizing their dps. In my honest opinion, if 25 mans are so much easier why does no one pug them? Because it is MUCH harder to motivate and coordinate 25 players over 10, evening out any differences.
@kjellhimself Now is the time to start up again then! You can farm five man dungeons for Justice points that can get you 3-set tier 11 as well as 346 and supplementary 359s. You can also farm Avenger's of Hyjal reputation and get 2 easy 378's before you even have to kill a boss, specifically a belt and a cloak. On top of all this if you can do your dailies every day you can get some EASY 365's simply from obtaining 150 Marks of the World tree! Doesn't get much easier man now is the time!
We did this boss a lot easier. When the boss targeted the area with hurl spear, we lured riplimb into the trap so the tank didnt need to run. Was a lot more effective and all the healers could stay in range.
@Burnendie Oh...could you tell me how your realm has access to a second lockout on the same raid in one week ? ^^ This kinda gives away that u probably never raided in cata at all, just sayin
I saw this guide when it came out, and in 2024 it still has an awesome energy
Amazing blast from the past. I am researching guides for Firelands Cata 2024 aaaaaaaaaaaand see my old guild boss guide. Love ya Jesse! I AM DIOXX.
thanks to this video i did shannox in 1 try, in a PuG. Thx for your amazing videos about the firelands bosses.
First time watching a WoW vid by Jesse and I did not expect this at all. It was just so... Professional.
I come for the guides and Jesse awesomeness, and I am treated with great music too!
Great job, thanks for the guide, and congrats on the server first kill.
a good tip for tanks: when your tanking riplimb, stay close to a crystal trap. when the spear is being throw get the dog in there. this way you can get both tanks to let the debuff drop without a lot of running around. this does ask a lot more of both tanks but works reasonably well when done correctly. this is a mainly 10 man tactic.
Oh, and btw Jesse, it is actually 30% per dog death, dunno if them dying in very rapid succession would leave it as only one stack.
Putting out a guide on the first day I raid Firelands this week? Why, thankyou, Jesse!
Man you don't screw around getting these out.
Great stuff as always, should help a lot of people
I find it really really cool that you stick with these game BGMs (or remixes of them). I think they are much more suited for these kind of videos than these normal linkin park or whatever tracks :D
@TwinkyDFTBA You don't have to threat dance at all.
You can simply follow the strategy we applied in this video.
We originally considered the threat swap ala Heroic Lady Death whisperer, but with reduced effectiveness from MDs and Tricks, we quickly decided to just let our geared tanks play the slots and try to remove their own debuffs. I personally have not done ten man but with the Face Rage hotfixing one of your issues, I can all but assure you this strat can work perfectly in both 10 and 25
Ohhhh jesse much love to you with these guides, and the music damn you and your nostalgia trips inducement. =)
@Fablesim This boss dropped 2 Eternal Embers. Other bosses we have downed have dropped between 1 and 3 embers as well as 1 living ember from every 25 man boss. However, apparently 10 man has a much lower chance to drop Eternal embers, sometimes dropping 1 or none, and similarly dropping 0-1 Living embers.
love your guides Jesse! nice to see new guides,
@GrimR3aper0123 @GrimR3aper0123 The song at the intro is called, "The Apocalypse Will Arrive On A NES Cartridge" - look it up.
@ShamanShraze
the raid is in the tower a little past the Sanctuary of Malorne
you cannot get into the questing area unless you do the hyjal stuff
@Blackhammer99 I checked the boss's enrage tooltip, it had two stacks, and it was 30/60% at each stack, for both speed and damage.
Thanks for having emotion unlike the other videos, Keep it up!
the shannox kill part of the video was exactly like your pvp parodies :P,
greetings!
Great choice of music Jesse! Love the Black Mages! :D
Man that Laguna FF8 battle theme is epic!!! 🤩
man really nice choice of music, Black mages is what i have playing while i raid and instance.
@Bradjg1978 i think what it is is that when riplimb dies, he no longer throws his spear since the dog isnt there to retrieve it, so he just slams his spear into the ground at his feet, causing the main tank to be in the epicenter of it's blast..which then radiates out through all the melee dps. its just like the thrown spear though, as far as i know, its just worst possible placement.
2024 just want to be prepared!
Looks like you put a lot of effort into this, was really good
Ty for the guide. Really simple to understand and follow. Only tried the Spider so far, not that hard, and we didn't continue cause some peeps failed to show up today >.>
PS: Final Fantasy 8 Black Mages song ftw :P
@Blackhammer99 We also had our top mage focus on Rageface the entire time until he died to avoid the major amount of damage he does on player with face rage. He was the most reliable to get a 30k crit the fastest. so we had no problem with that.
I miss the early 2010s man. So much energy.
@EasyEpro9 Smart move, however they changed the amount of damage Rageface is dealing upon focusing a target.
Should make it much more manageable. Pretty much every time he "Raged a face" of one of our members, they died unless they had some cooldown to pop or immediately got a Blessing of Protection.
i dont play wow anymore but i still watching u videos .
noticed you used a rogue to disarm traps. very clever. Grats
@MrNikosNikolaidis
2 Tanks: Paladin on Shannox, Warrior on Rageface.
7 Healers: 3 paladins focused on the tanks, a druid and 2 shaman healing the raid, and one Mojomaker casting Healing rain and chain heal on one target
Jesse, great guide. I know this raid tier is fun for our healers, they say they have a lot more to do now. It was a challenge getting used to ninja changes done to this boss but once you get him down once it should be a cakewalk next week. Which is what I want all boss fights to be like. t11 had way too much RNG involved and relied too heavily on split second interrupts. Melee have a lot of responsibility this tier as well but it's more fun than last tier.
Almost thought this was a mirage. It's been way too long since one of these appeared in the box, Jesse.
nice guide, really easy to follow!
@Praxxz We resort to physical violence IRL. We also have a commissioner that levies hefty fines. But honestly, we tend to get irritated only when it's stupid or repeated mistakes, we raid two days a week and still strive to remain competitive, so we demand professionalism and expect people to be their best...8 hours a week isn't a lot to ask.
You get bonus points for playing Man with the Machine Gun as background music.
Also, this vid makes me wish I didn't detest raiding. XD
Yeah REALLY loving the 8-bit intro thing. A LOT.
thanks jesse, appreciate the guide
just can't get enough of that intro
@killer32112 It's the start of the patch, aka before Blizzard nerfs everything to hell, so it's not 'easy'. It really depends on everyone. If you ACT like it's insanely tough and are aware of everything going on, then it's actually a pretty tame fight, but if you space out or otherwise don't take it seriously, WIPE.
Bear in mind this is a brand new fight, and a brand new tempo for everyone to adjust to. Heck, me and many other guildies kept tripping the traps. Either way it's fun!
EPIC INTRO MAN!!!!
I don't even play WoW and i just watched this whole video just to here Jesse's voice.
This is just to anyone looking into tactics. In my personal opinion, this is by far the easiest boss in Firelands. Beth'tilac is all about healing and execution, Rhyolith is hard due to its gimmick BUT its also very easy in its req. part, the gimmick you just get used to with experience. 1 tactic we use in our guild is: Nuke rageface and kill him asap, his dmg will be alot more than what boss will output with his extra buff, then melee switch to boss and ranged on riplimb, Shannox 35%, kill dog.
@stealthnick5 He duel specs. Resto is his main spec and he has Enhancement as his off spec.
Nice song for the kill! :D
Epic music to go along with it!
awesome tutorial really easy to understand :D
thanks for the video, great job explaining!!
Back again for the Firelands raid rerelease in a month for classic!
Grats Jesse on 13th Kill!
Jesse, great music choice
@Whatineedaname He said that if you don't, when the boss gets to 35% the dogs get enraged and pretty much 2 shot the raid.
Riplimb and rageface give shannox a 60% increase when they die on 10m. Just an FYI to anyone wondering.
My guild downed shannox on Tuesday and we used a slightly different strat. We immediately downed rageface to keep him from causing too much raid damage and pushing more of the damage to the tank so the healers could have only two main focus points. Main and Off tank. After that we brought Shannox down to 35% and riplimb to 10% then downed riplimb and so on and so forth. 2nd Shannox kill on the server :)
off of both of the guides i saw you got healing gear nice
@JamesRideout123 no i meant the music where the little animation moves around. i know what the song is
@OMFGcata the thing about TOR is that even if it sucks it will make all mmos better
I miss these videos. Plz do boss guides again in WoD? :(
Wow jesse Good job man
I keep saying it >.< that intro song ROCKS
and nice fight n GZ on server first :D
@Rargeful We had a MM hunter and a arcane mage focusing on that
amazing guide! thanks for it!
@OMFGcata I just wish Rift was larger. I like all the races of WoW and rolling a new toon just to see the starting area. Rift lacks that, but it does compensate with other things.
@MrWarLore it also more of a pain when you want to turn in 10 quests you just spent 1 hour doing and you get to the givers and a big ass elite rift has opened on them and is killing them.
@Lyricsjust4u2011 No, it's actually Riplimb.
skilled tanks and personal accountability. probably the hardest thing to find in all of WoW
U should use F-zero - Mute City or Big Blue metal version for one of the future boss encounters, epic songs.
@OMFGcata Never forget that FFXI gave us auction houses and a solid econ model XD
@TheHittheman a feat of strenth acheve probably poped or somin i saw one like that a month ago it was called realm first: bot hc 25
@MrDissease yeah i see that, my mains a resto shammy too i was wondering if i should try using some addons to help me heal
@OMFGcata Thanks for the guide jesse my guild will be using it :)
@lilzaim I believe it is called Grid. but I can't be certain. :3
Your the man Jesse!
@OMFGcata
That's pretty much it, even though people tend to rage and say no
hi jesse really love your vids (witcher 2 AWESSSSSOME!) and minecraft ofc ^^ but i really want to know which program you are using to edit you vids with :), im thinking about uploading some vids myself but i dont have any program to edit :(
---->A HUUUge fan of you :P
When I did this for my First time on my DK we just downed Rageface as fast as we could and then went to Shannox, and that went pretty smooth too :)
@OMFGcata We just downed shannox. Took us 10 attempts from never seeing it to downing. I would say it is by far the easiest boss in FL.
Beth took us 2 nights of wiping to get.
WOOOO JESSE!
@OMFGcata hey i have a question.when your trying to kill the dogs before the start of phase 2 does the boss still drop the immolation trap?if he does couldnt you try to bring a pet to it to do damage?
@sakrefunholy Guild is on Firetree-US.
Contact Metrolol in game to discuss the guild application process.
@nmuller25 Skilled Tanks are hard to find? I guess I just got lucky with the people I know perhaps.
Hey there Jesse, there is a new MMO coming out called Dragon Nest. It is made by Nexon and Eyedentity games.
It had anime style graphics, and won at E3 for best PVP award.
I would be honoured if you were to check it out, open beta testing is on July 26.
So the song from the boss kill part should totally be Children of Bodom - Hellhounds on my trail.
@alokpinto bubble doesnt work, the MT's stacks fall off while Riplimb is running an extended distance with the spear. No spear = no stacks.
This is actually much harder in 10man, we just nuked down rageface immediately so that we don't have to deal with raid damage, and then you have to threat dance TWO mobs and just tank riplimb and Shannox and super heal the tank that has them both, when you need to drop stacks you just have to OT pop threat cds and pulls them both off him.
Hey Jesse i love the little piece of music from 0:09 to 0;16. any place i could dowload it or is it a secret :)?
Gave this a brief shot today and I was wondering about the jagged tear falling off during spear fetch. from the looks of it, it doesnt seem to take 30 seconds for riplimb to grab the spear and carry it back. How did you increase the time? we didnt kite shannox away during the fetch so this have a considerable effect.
@Japskidin
10 Man may arguably be more "difficult" but each mechanic is far more forgiving on 10 man. Where something may kill one person in 10, it may kill 3 or 4 in 25 man. Respectively, healing 25 man becomes easier only because you have the room for extra healers provided you have everyone maximizing their dps. In my honest opinion, if 25 mans are so much easier why does no one pug them? Because it is MUCH harder to motivate and coordinate 25 players over 10, evening out any differences.
@SkeletalArm his guides are always professional, otherwise he is the jesse we all know and love :D
@Tayskasi around 6-10 then either every1 will leave, or u will wipe again, and then maybe down the boss
OMG, Laguna music is epic! xD
Hey Jesse, what boss are you planning on trying next? I vote for Beth'tilac, the coolest model in the entire game :D
@10zazzy Yeah it's a really nice addon once you tweaked it, I'm using it on my holy pala aswell but you should defonately try it out ;)
Whats the first song in the video where you see the title screen?
This is a fantastic strat video - very easy to follow. Personally rate it over that silly EU British guy as well as Tank Spot's Nerd Woman.
@kjellhimself Now is the time to start up again then! You can farm five man dungeons for Justice points that can get you 3-set tier 11 as well as 346 and supplementary 359s. You can also farm Avenger's of Hyjal reputation and get 2 easy 378's before you even have to kill a boss, specifically a belt and a cloak. On top of all this if you can do your dailies every day you can get some EASY 365's simply from obtaining 150 Marks of the World tree! Doesn't get much easier man now is the time!
We did this boss a lot easier. When the boss targeted the area with hurl spear, we lured riplimb into the trap so the tank didnt need to run. Was a lot more effective and all the healers could stay in range.
nice guide
@Burnendie
Oh...could you tell me how your realm has access to a second lockout on the same raid in one week ? ^^ This kinda gives away that u probably never raided in cata at all, just sayin