@OMFGcata hey i have a question.when your trying to kill the dogs before the start of phase 2 does the boss still drop the immolation trap?if he does couldnt you try to bring a pet to it to do damage?
a good tip for tanks: when your tanking riplimb, stay close to a crystal trap. when the spear is being throw get the dog in there. this way you can get both tanks to let the debuff drop without a lot of running around. this does ask a lot more of both tanks but works reasonably well when done correctly. this is a mainly 10 man tactic.
I come for the guides and Jesse awesomeness, and I am treated with great music too! Great job, thanks for the guide, and congrats on the server first kill.
Gave this a brief shot today and I was wondering about the jagged tear falling off during spear fetch. from the looks of it, it doesnt seem to take 30 seconds for riplimb to grab the spear and carry it back. How did you increase the time? we didnt kite shannox away during the fetch so this have a considerable effect.
@OMFGcata hey Jesse, my guild is a 10man guild, do you think this is gonna be harder in 10 then 25man due to some of the abilities and mechanics of this fight?
Hey, Jesse. Quick question. If a tank that tanks one of the pets step on a crystal trap, will the dog still do damage to him or will he lose aggro? Or is that, like, 2 million free HP worth of tanking right there?
Jesse can you upload a gear video, Also My pc goes to 0-4 fps in org at peak times but copes with all of the Heroic boss graphics with few fps issues. Do you think ill be capable of healing 10 mans without completely crashing my fps? (im on a puny laptop with the processing power of a toaster.
@Burnendie Oh...could you tell me how your realm has access to a second lockout on the same raid in one week ? ^^ This kinda gives away that u probably never raided in cata at all, just sayin
kinda confused when you are killing the 2 pets you said if a certain one dies before the other the raids gets 50k dmg. Is that 50k divid among the raid or 50k for each person?
I find it really really cool that you stick with these game BGMs (or remixes of them). I think they are much more suited for these kind of videos than these normal linkin park or whatever tracks :D
@BossAlin3 wtf you talking about, I almost never seen him stop healing, you know that shamans have 2 low CD have to be sustained instant cast spells, correct?
Jesse. I just have a small question, Since you guys have fun in arenas and don't care if you lose, Does that apply to the raids you guys do as well? For example, You wipe because someone buggered up. Do they get mad or laugh about it and retry? I'm sorry for being nosy, but I just must know XD
@TwinkyDFTBA You don't have to threat dance at all. You can simply follow the strategy we applied in this video. We originally considered the threat swap ala Heroic Lady Death whisperer, but with reduced effectiveness from MDs and Tricks, we quickly decided to just let our geared tanks play the slots and try to remove their own debuffs. I personally have not done ten man but with the Face Rage hotfixing one of your issues, I can all but assure you this strat can work perfectly in both 10 and 25
@MrNikosNikolaidis 2 Tanks: Paladin on Shannox, Warrior on Rageface. 7 Healers: 3 paladins focused on the tanks, a druid and 2 shaman healing the raid, and one Mojomaker casting Healing rain and chain heal on one target
Jesse, great guide. I know this raid tier is fun for our healers, they say they have a lot more to do now. It was a challenge getting used to ninja changes done to this boss but once you get him down once it should be a cakewalk next week. Which is what I want all boss fights to be like. t11 had way too much RNG involved and relied too heavily on split second interrupts. Melee have a lot of responsibility this tier as well but it's more fun than last tier.
hi jesse really love your vids (witcher 2 AWESSSSSOME!) and minecraft ofc ^^ but i really want to know which program you are using to edit you vids with :), im thinking about uploading some vids myself but i dont have any program to edit :( ---->A HUUUge fan of you :P
This is just to anyone looking into tactics. In my personal opinion, this is by far the easiest boss in Firelands. Beth'tilac is all about healing and execution, Rhyolith is hard due to its gimmick BUT its also very easy in its req. part, the gimmick you just get used to with experience. 1 tactic we use in our guild is: Nuke rageface and kill him asap, his dmg will be alot more than what boss will output with his extra buff, then melee switch to boss and ranged on riplimb, Shannox 35%, kill dog.
Ty for the guide. Really simple to understand and follow. Only tried the Spider so far, not that hard, and we didn't continue cause some peeps failed to show up today >.> PS: Final Fantasy 8 Black Mages song ftw :P
@Fablesim This boss dropped 2 Eternal Embers. Other bosses we have downed have dropped between 1 and 3 embers as well as 1 living ember from every 25 man boss. However, apparently 10 man has a much lower chance to drop Eternal embers, sometimes dropping 1 or none, and similarly dropping 0-1 Living embers.
@Praxxz We resort to physical violence IRL. We also have a commissioner that levies hefty fines. But honestly, we tend to get irritated only when it's stupid or repeated mistakes, we raid two days a week and still strive to remain competitive, so we demand professionalism and expect people to be their best...8 hours a week isn't a lot to ask.
@EasyEpro9 Smart move, however they changed the amount of damage Rageface is dealing upon focusing a target. Should make it much more manageable. Pretty much every time he "Raged a face" of one of our members, they died unless they had some cooldown to pop or immediately got a Blessing of Protection.
@Bradjg1978 i think what it is is that when riplimb dies, he no longer throws his spear since the dog isnt there to retrieve it, so he just slams his spear into the ground at his feet, causing the main tank to be in the epicenter of it's blast..which then radiates out through all the melee dps. its just like the thrown spear though, as far as i know, its just worst possible placement.
My guild downed shannox on Tuesday and we used a slightly different strat. We immediately downed rageface to keep him from causing too much raid damage and pushing more of the damage to the tank so the healers could have only two main focus points. Main and Off tank. After that we brought Shannox down to 35% and riplimb to 10% then downed riplimb and so on and so forth. 2nd Shannox kill on the server :)
Jesse would love to hear your opinion on the completely new direction Arena Net is taking with there new MMO Guild Wars 2 and how it might affect games like WoW?Just leave a comment :) but u know if u want to make a vid to get the word out on how Guild Wars 2 is nothing like Guild Wars 1 and how it will be unlike any other MMO u know feel free :D
@OMFGcata I just wish Rift was larger. I like all the races of WoW and rolling a new toon just to see the starting area. Rift lacks that, but it does compensate with other things.
@Blackhammer99 We also had our top mage focus on Rageface the entire time until he died to avoid the major amount of damage he does on player with face rage. He was the most reliable to get a 30k crit the fastest. so we had no problem with that.
@Japskidin 10 Man may arguably be more "difficult" but each mechanic is far more forgiving on 10 man. Where something may kill one person in 10, it may kill 3 or 4 in 25 man. Respectively, healing 25 man becomes easier only because you have the room for extra healers provided you have everyone maximizing their dps. In my honest opinion, if 25 mans are so much easier why does no one pug them? Because it is MUCH harder to motivate and coordinate 25 players over 10, evening out any differences.
@OMFGcata We just downed shannox. Took us 10 attempts from never seeing it to downing. I would say it is by far the easiest boss in FL. Beth took us 2 nights of wiping to get.
I saw this guide when it came out, and in 2024 it still has an awesome energy
Oh, and btw Jesse, it is actually 30% per dog death, dunno if them dying in very rapid succession would leave it as only one stack.
Amazing blast from the past. I am researching guides for Firelands Cata 2024 aaaaaaaaaaaand see my old guild boss guide. Love ya Jesse! I AM DIOXX.
@OMFGcata hey i have a question.when your trying to kill the dogs before the start of phase 2 does the boss still drop the immolation trap?if he does couldnt you try to bring a pet to it to do damage?
a good tip for tanks: when your tanking riplimb, stay close to a crystal trap. when the spear is being throw get the dog in there. this way you can get both tanks to let the debuff drop without a lot of running around. this does ask a lot more of both tanks but works reasonably well when done correctly. this is a mainly 10 man tactic.
I come for the guides and Jesse awesomeness, and I am treated with great music too!
Great job, thanks for the guide, and congrats on the server first kill.
Gave this a brief shot today and I was wondering about the jagged tear falling off during spear fetch. from the looks of it, it doesnt seem to take 30 seconds for riplimb to grab the spear and carry it back. How did you increase the time? we didnt kite shannox away during the fetch so this have a considerable effect.
First time watching a WoW vid by Jesse and I did not expect this at all. It was just so... Professional.
@OMFGcata hey Jesse, my guild is a 10man guild, do you think this is gonna be harder in 10 then 25man due to some of the abilities and mechanics of this fight?
Putting out a guide on the first day I raid Firelands this week? Why, thankyou, Jesse!
Hey, Jesse. Quick question. If a tank that tanks one of the pets step on a crystal trap, will the dog still do damage to him or will he lose aggro? Or is that, like, 2 million free HP worth of tanking right there?
Whats the first song in the video where you see the title screen?
@OMFGcata jesse what healing interface do you use in this video?
Jesse can you upload a gear video, Also My pc goes to 0-4 fps in org at peak times but copes with all of the Heroic boss graphics with few fps issues. Do you think ill be capable of healing 10 mans without completely crashing my fps? (im on a puny laptop with the processing power of a toaster.
@Burnendie
Oh...could you tell me how your realm has access to a second lockout on the same raid in one week ? ^^ This kinda gives away that u probably never raided in cata at all, just sayin
Can I ask you how your main tank/healers handle the stacking debuff from the boss?
kinda confused when you are killing the 2 pets you said if a certain one dies before the other the raids gets 50k dmg. Is that 50k divid among the raid or 50k for each person?
Man you don't screw around getting these out.
Great stuff as always, should help a lot of people
I find it really really cool that you stick with these game BGMs (or remixes of them). I think they are much more suited for these kind of videos than these normal linkin park or whatever tracks :D
How are you having the tanks swap for tear debuff in last phase without taunt available?
I miss the early 2010s man. So much energy.
i have some questions. first which realm are you on and can i join maybe your guild :P and secondly. is it easy to heal as a shaman? :)
Hey Jesse i love the little piece of music from 0:09 to 0;16. any place i could dowload it or is it a secret :)?
hey jess, what addons do you use to heal and do you use a gaming mouse?
what shield was that tauren tank using at 5:34?
how are you healing different people without targeting them ? My "Grid" dont seem do that
thanks to this video i did shannox in 1 try, in a PuG. Thx for your amazing videos about the firelands bosses.
jeaae- do you have to kill the dogs or can you let them be and burn the boss?
Man that Laguna FF8 battle theme is epic!!! 🤩
Jesse, what is that addon called that you heal with?
@BossAlin3 wtf you talking about, I almost never seen him stop healing, you know that shamans have 2 low CD have to be sustained instant cast spells, correct?
whats the NES Intro music called at start?!
Ohhhh jesse much love to you with these guides, and the music damn you and your nostalgia trips inducement. =)
2024 just want to be prepared!
love your guides Jesse! nice to see new guides,
Jesse. I just have a small question, Since you guys have fun in arenas and don't care if you lose, Does that apply to the raids you guys do as well? For example, You wipe because someone buggered up. Do they get mad or laugh about it and retry? I'm sorry for being nosy, but I just must know XD
The dogs attack random targets? so in other words they go from healer to healer?
man really nice choice of music, Black mages is what i have playing while i raid and instance.
@MrDissease yeah i see that, my mains a resto shammy too i was wondering if i should try using some addons to help me heal
We all know the FF music, but what is the music while you're talking/explaining/babbling/mumbling/having a robot talk for you?
@TwinkyDFTBA You don't have to threat dance at all.
You can simply follow the strategy we applied in this video.
We originally considered the threat swap ala Heroic Lady Death whisperer, but with reduced effectiveness from MDs and Tricks, we quickly decided to just let our geared tanks play the slots and try to remove their own debuffs. I personally have not done ten man but with the Face Rage hotfixing one of your issues, I can all but assure you this strat can work perfectly in both 10 and 25
Great choice of music Jesse! Love the Black Mages! :D
whats with all those hotkeys you dont seem to use them all?
the shannox kill part of the video was exactly like your pvp parodies :P,
greetings!
i dont play wow anymore but i still watching u videos .
@MrNikosNikolaidis
2 Tanks: Paladin on Shannox, Warrior on Rageface.
7 Healers: 3 paladins focused on the tanks, a druid and 2 shaman healing the raid, and one Mojomaker casting Healing rain and chain heal on one target
Jesse, great guide. I know this raid tier is fun for our healers, they say they have a lot more to do now. It was a challenge getting used to ninja changes done to this boss but once you get him down once it should be a cakewalk next week. Which is what I want all boss fights to be like. t11 had way too much RNG involved and relied too heavily on split second interrupts. Melee have a lot of responsibility this tier as well but it's more fun than last tier.
@alokpinto bubble doesnt work, the MT's stacks fall off while Riplimb is running an extended distance with the spear. No spear = no stacks.
What action bar addon are you using? :)
What is the name of the intro music?
@GrimR3aper0123 @GrimR3aper0123 The song at the intro is called, "The Apocalypse Will Arrive On A NES Cartridge" - look it up.
Jesse whats the name of the song?
hi jesse really love your vids (witcher 2 AWESSSSSOME!) and minecraft ofc ^^ but i really want to know which program you are using to edit you vids with :), im thinking about uploading some vids myself but i dont have any program to edit :(
---->A HUUUge fan of you :P
Looks like you put a lot of effort into this, was really good
Thanks for having emotion unlike the other videos, Keep it up!
This is just to anyone looking into tactics. In my personal opinion, this is by far the easiest boss in Firelands. Beth'tilac is all about healing and execution, Rhyolith is hard due to its gimmick BUT its also very easy in its req. part, the gimmick you just get used to with experience. 1 tactic we use in our guild is: Nuke rageface and kill him asap, his dmg will be alot more than what boss will output with his extra buff, then melee switch to boss and ranged on riplimb, Shannox 35%, kill dog.
@ShamanShraze
the raid is in the tower a little past the Sanctuary of Malorne
you cannot get into the questing area unless you do the hyjal stuff
I miss these videos. Plz do boss guides again in WoD? :(
whats your fps and graphics settings? damn that runs good :) thats your specs as well
@JamesRideout123 no i meant the music where the little animation moves around. i know what the song is
Ty for the guide. Really simple to understand and follow. Only tried the Spider so far, not that hard, and we didn't continue cause some peeps failed to show up today >.>
PS: Final Fantasy 8 Black Mages song ftw :P
Do disarms work on him?
which enemy should i mainly focus on?
Yeah REALLY loving the 8-bit intro thing. A LOT.
Ummm jesse did you or did u not get those boots?
Did you happen to figure out the max distance the puppies can be from Shannox?
noticed you used a rogue to disarm traps. very clever. Grats
whats your graphics card, ram and cpu?
@Fablesim This boss dropped 2 Eternal Embers. Other bosses we have downed have dropped between 1 and 3 embers as well as 1 living ember from every 25 man boss. However, apparently 10 man has a much lower chance to drop Eternal embers, sometimes dropping 1 or none, and similarly dropping 0-1 Living embers.
Hey Jesse, what boss are you planning on trying next? I vote for Beth'tilac, the coolest model in the entire game :D
u forgot to mention..... how was the group? 2 tanks 6 heals and rest dps? :S
So....why was the boss moving around so much P2?
what addons do you use?
sometimes the crystal traps don't trigger, what's wrong? Can anyone help me?
@Blackhammer99 I checked the boss's enrage tooltip, it had two stacks, and it was 30/60% at each stack, for both speed and damage.
Dynasty Music??
@Praxxz We resort to physical violence IRL. We also have a commissioner that levies hefty fines. But honestly, we tend to get irritated only when it's stupid or repeated mistakes, we raid two days a week and still strive to remain competitive, so we demand professionalism and expect people to be their best...8 hours a week isn't a lot to ask.
@EasyEpro9 Smart move, however they changed the amount of damage Rageface is dealing upon focusing a target.
Should make it much more manageable. Pretty much every time he "Raged a face" of one of our members, they died unless they had some cooldown to pop or immediately got a Blessing of Protection.
You get bonus points for playing Man with the Machine Gun as background music.
Also, this vid makes me wish I didn't detest raiding. XD
When I did this for my First time on my DK we just downed Rageface as fast as we could and then went to Shannox, and that went pretty smooth too :)
just can't get enough of that intro
@Bradjg1978 i think what it is is that when riplimb dies, he no longer throws his spear since the dog isnt there to retrieve it, so he just slams his spear into the ground at his feet, causing the main tank to be in the epicenter of it's blast..which then radiates out through all the melee dps. its just like the thrown spear though, as far as i know, its just worst possible placement.
how it's the name of the cam program
did ya get the boots jeese?
My guild downed shannox on Tuesday and we used a slightly different strat. We immediately downed rageface to keep him from causing too much raid damage and pushing more of the damage to the tank so the healers could have only two main focus points. Main and Off tank. After that we brought Shannox down to 35% and riplimb to 10% then downed riplimb and so on and so forth. 2nd Shannox kill on the server :)
Jesse would love to hear your opinion on the completely new direction Arena Net is taking with there new MMO Guild Wars 2 and how it might affect games like WoW?Just leave a comment :) but u know if u want to make a vid to get the word out on how Guild Wars 2 is nothing like Guild Wars 1 and how it will be unlike any other MMO u know feel free :D
@OMFGcata I just wish Rift was larger. I like all the races of WoW and rolling a new toon just to see the starting area. Rift lacks that, but it does compensate with other things.
@Blackhammer99 We also had our top mage focus on Rageface the entire time until he died to avoid the major amount of damage he does on player with face rage. He was the most reliable to get a 30k crit the fastest. so we had no problem with that.
skilled tanks and personal accountability. probably the hardest thing to find in all of WoW
@OMFGcata
That's pretty much it, even though people tend to rage and say no
Jesse what is your opinion of being booted from Limbo, Hat, and DN for poor performance. Also nice skinning rofl
@stealthnick5 He duel specs. Resto is his main spec and he has Enhancement as his off spec.
Did you clear 13/13 heroic from T11?
Did you win those boots?
what was that healing addon need it for my guy
off of both of the guides i saw you got healing gear nice
Almost thought this was a mirage. It's been way too long since one of these appeared in the box, Jesse.
@OMFGcata the thing about TOR is that even if it sucks it will make all mmos better
@Japskidin
10 Man may arguably be more "difficult" but each mechanic is far more forgiving on 10 man. Where something may kill one person in 10, it may kill 3 or 4 in 25 man. Respectively, healing 25 man becomes easier only because you have the room for extra healers provided you have everyone maximizing their dps. In my honest opinion, if 25 mans are so much easier why does no one pug them? Because it is MUCH harder to motivate and coordinate 25 players over 10, evening out any differences.
@OMFGcata We just downed shannox. Took us 10 attempts from never seeing it to downing. I would say it is by far the easiest boss in FL.
Beth took us 2 nights of wiping to get.