AMD K6-2 - Voodoo Powered 1998 Retro Rig - Part 2

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  • @ljrretropcs
    @ljrretropcs 3 года назад +8

    Do love seeing a single Voodoo 2 in action. Too many people seem to think its SLI or nothing.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +2

      You know good point. I do notice that when videos go for Voodoo 2 setups it's the unobtainium SLI maybe just because it was so hard to get back in the day. I certainly would at best would have had this very sort of card (8 MB single) and nothing else even though I ended up going from Voodoo and then nVidia. Feels more period correct and it's fun!

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 3 года назад +1

      You're so right. I so much hate those voodoo2 maniacs, that taps their ego, showing only 2 of them in SLI. and usually have even 2 others in reserve. While others struggles to get at least one.
      I too have only 1 voodoo2, and I'm happy with it. Would show also only 1 v2 , as 1998 machine, because majority of people used only one voodoo2. Only maniacs of maniacs did have 2 voodoo2 cards back in the time. I remember noone personaly around me to have such setup. Most of people didnt have accelerator yet in 1998 at all. Only 2D card. These people that always want to max out everything, otherwise are ashamed to make video, are psychically ill in my mind.
      I'm happy you've shown K6-2 300 and not 500 overclocked to 600, as these maniacs, and also voodoo2, not SLI v2. Also, I'm glad you let 64 MB RAM, they would try to max out 128 or 256 MB, that nobody had.

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 3 года назад

      This was really realistic 1998 machine, I would even say, that most of people was on Pentium 166 MMX in that time. We bought voodoo2 in december 1998, because it was too expensive early 1998.

  • @roolaing
    @roolaing Год назад +1

    I had this exact processor and voodoo 2 combo. And most of these games. Thanks man, good memories!

  • @angieandretti
    @angieandretti Год назад

    I built a somewhat similar 1999 system around a K6-2 550MHz CPU and a Voodoo 3 3000. Even when overclocked, the CPU is still the bottleneck since my Voodoo2 SLI rig with 1GHz Pentium III gets higher framerates but the AMD system is much more realistic in terms of what we'd have had back then. I had some high school friends who were really into the K6-2+ CPU and the idea of hacking it into a desktop motherboard as a way to supercharge an old Socket 7 system and compete with much more expensive Intel-based rigs. We felt like we were stickin' it to the man, upgrading these last-gen systems with a CPU designed only for mobile platforms! Throw in a good video card, or in my case the Rage Fury Maxx, and we were off to the races! Man, the nostalgia!!

  • @GabrielZ666
    @GabrielZ666 3 года назад +1

    I wish I'd had a PC like this back in the day! In 1998 I was still using my first PC: a Pentium 133 but upgraded to a 166 MMX, no voodoo, no sound blaster, just a good ol' Trident 9440 and an ISA Crystal soundcard. Now as a Retro PC enthusiast I have all these monster PCs built, but every now and then it's nice to see what a "more real" PC would have been like and how it handles everything you throw at it. Excellent video!

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 3 года назад +1

      We had Pentium 133, bought in december 97, so you were better. We also had only 2D card, well Ati 3D rage II, but we used it as 2D card, as 3D part sucked. It was basicaly something like S3 Trio64 with 4 MB RAM. I was dreaming about Pentium 166 MMX, in 1998, would be nice upgrade. But no money, as we spent in december 1997 on upgrade from 486. So, just wanted to tell you, that you could be happy. With Pentium 166MMX, it was much better gaming year. You could play Quake 1 much higher resolution in software mode, thanks to it, also Jedi Knight was much more fluent (more FPS). We struggled a lot in these games.
      Then we bought voodoo2 in early 1999, but that Pentium 133 holded it back. I was so much wishing we could have 166 or 200. But no, only 133 (btw it could be overclocked to 166 almost for sure, but I didnt know about overclocking back then). It screwed basicaly also my 1999 gaming year. So you could be happy with 166 MMX... it was much faster, at least 30-40% from Pentium 133.

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 3 года назад

      I also remembering suffer in Hexen II, because of that Pentium 133. Well, we could at least run it in 320x240. But 400x300 was already a bit choppy (in software mode). Pentium 166 MMX would help a lot... I suffered 1998 because of it, then in 1999, that voodoo2 helped a lot, even with Pentium 133. Hexen II, MK4 and NHL 98 was biggest shock in my life, with voodoo2 (on Pentium 133)
      We could play also Quake 2 finally (with voodoo2), and Unreal. Unreal was kinda slow (because of Pentium 133), also Rollcage. Then I had to upgrade CPU, cause it was too slow for that Voodoo2. At the end of 1999 dream came true, with AMD k6-2 500. Finally, I had that speed of voodoo2, that rich people could have in middle 1998.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      Agreed it's actually fun to experience computing as it actually was once in a while. I also have quite a few "dream machines" for the era that run everything great. This... struggles and it's actually fun part of the complete experience hah. Appreciate you watching!

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      You know as much as it was probably rough running on an older machine I bet you learned a thing or two about tweaking for performance. Builds character! My first real PC was a 486 SX33 and boy did I end up learning a lot trying to squeeze more juice out of that one.
      Thanks for sharing though I really think it's awesome to see the retro journey people have taken!

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 3 года назад +1

      ​@@RiksRandomRetro Just opposite, I was affraid to tweak anything. I once screwed Windows 95 installation by something, and it was very bad at home. It was family computer. Not only this, as I was only teenager back then (around 14 years) I didnt spent a penny on that computer. And for todays money, it was like 3000$ or something like that. I really only turn it on, and go to DOS or windows, and only run exe or bat of the game. Nothing more. I would never dare to open the computer, I didnt uinderstand electricity stuff and hardware at all. It would be for book, only my story. And I'm sure, everyone have his own story. I've learned hardware and overclocking much later later, in 2006, after I had my own computer for my own money. In that time, computers were already like 3x more cheaper, than in middle 90's . So people wasnt so affraid experimenting.
      Problem in mid 90's was also, I didnt know english. I've learn it basicaly between 1998-2000, to be usable, to read articles in english. In our language, I didnt have much sources. But ok, I was maybe not hardware hobbiest. I only programed, mapedited and played games, so only software stuff.
      Yes, those 486 and Pentium 1 could be overclocked very good. Pity I didnt know about that. I was really affraid I screw up computer, that is even not mine. Basicaly father and brother builded it (brother also didnt understand hardware very good... but he was only 1 year older). And mom paid for it also, like some money. Image 14 year old, that doesnt have any information about hardware, dont know english, dont know, from where to read about it, and care only about playing games...:) No overclocking in that time, sorry. :) But it changed in 2006, as I've said. My first overclock was from 1.6 to 2.4 Ghz, Sempron64 Palermo if I remember correctly, 2800+. Perfect procesor for OC, and 50% overclock as my first one (on DFI Lan party motherboard). Yes, I 've studied 3 weeks on internet, before I've bought components.

  • @SUCRA
    @SUCRA 3 года назад +4

    You hit it out of the park Rik! Great build, and again that homage to Baldur's Gate we enjoyed you stream last week. Thanks for another great video! 👍

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Sucra! Always appreciate the support!

  • @PixelPipes
    @PixelPipes 3 года назад +2

    Fantastic build, and enjoyable watch! Perfect hardware for your intended use.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Thanks Pixel really appreciate it! It's definitely fun to build something more period specific vs just overkill once in a while.

  • @helldog3105
    @helldog3105 3 года назад +1

    "The Gold standard of the era" Badum, tish!!! Thank you! Rik will be here all week! Be sure to tip your servers and, please, try the fish!

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Ha... hah... yes indeed. Any time I can cram a dad level joke in pretty much have to.

  • @clintthompson4100
    @clintthompson4100 2 года назад +1

    Enjoyed watching this build and great addon with the cards. You are correct its not the fastest nor the slowest but it does hit that sweet spot that I think anyone in that era would love to have. Have a good one.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  2 года назад +1

      Yep that was sort of the general plan! It's easy to get blinded by the fastest of everything but I'm finding it fun to experiment more and more with the more "average" machines as of late.

  • @nathann0100
    @nathann0100 3 года назад +1

    Great build playing quake I can see the ad adapter fusing to the voodoo 2 haha

  • @helldog3105
    @helldog3105 3 года назад

    Like that nice clean tabletop and white walls for a workbench. The lighting is great too.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Thanks much appreciated! I always sweat what each shot looks like and the lighting is a pita getting everything lit up... also the workbench is certainly not always as clean as shows here. Or if I panned the camera around next to said workbench... may not be quite as pretty lol!

  • @TylerJaneBronson
    @TylerJaneBronson 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I probably won't ever splurge for a voodoo or awe 64 gold, so watching them get installed with 80s synth music is the next best thing I guess :)

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Thanks much appreciated! Yeah it's one of those things that I couldn't justify the cost going into it now but I looked at my parts bin and thought huh this might work...

  • @helldog3105
    @helldog3105 3 года назад

    My first AMD K6 machine was a K6-2 350MHz on an Epox MVP3C motherboard with 64MB of RAM, Diamond Monster Sound MX300, DIamond Viper 770 Ultra (TNT2 Ultra) and a Creative labs Voodoo 2 12MB. I miss that machine. I upgraded it to a K6-3 450 back in the day. THat MVP3C board was surprisingly stable though.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Oh sweet. Sounds like a hell of a machine for the era to say the least. Perfect specs and those components would add up in price these days thanks to the retro tax unless you get lucky.

    • @helldog3105
      @helldog3105 3 года назад

      @@RiksRandomRetro Well the K6-3 machine I have now is very similar, except I don't have a TNT 2 Ultra in it, but a Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, and instead of a Monster Sound MX 300, I have the Turtle Beach Montego II Quadzilla. Both of those sound cards are Aureal Vortex 2 Sound Cards. And the motherboard is by Gigabyte instead.

  • @gen_angry
    @gen_angry 3 года назад +1

    Sweet setup :) just about what I'd pick if I wanted to spend a bit - that's about as '1998' as you can get. It's fun to pick a year and plan/build right at that year.
    For mine, I have a pretty 'similar' but older by about a year and a half. P-200MMX, S3 Trio64 (possible may have some damage so will likely replace with a virge at some point), Diamond Voodoo 1, AWE64, 64mb RAM. The case and PSU are new, wanted to do a kind of 'reverse sleeper'.
    Does need a network card as well as some point, thanks for reminding me that the 3com card existed.
    Another suggestion I have is a Gotek if you want to mess with floppy disk images. Thing is a godsend, no more corrupted disks. It handles just about every format except DMF.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Thanks! It's been really fun sticking to (generally) a specific time. The majority of the time I'm using something more powerful than needed.
      That's an awesome system though! I have a very soft spot for a late Pentium rig with those sort of specs (I have and use a similar machine) since it rocks late DOS games with ease plus all that goodness of the early 95 era.
      As far as a Gotek I've only used it for my Amiga and with the network connection I mostly copy files that way but I'm intrigued to try it in a PC as well.

  • @Elios0000
    @Elios0000 3 года назад +2

    MMmmm my first custom PC just about. i had K6-2 400Mhz i740 8MB and 12MB Voodoo2, and a Soundblaster Live! only had 16MB of ram and 5GB HDD though

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Awesome! I honestly didn't have much exposure so the AMD processors of the time so it's really fun to explore this one now. That's a heck of a nice rig though you had.

  • @framebuffer.10
    @framebuffer.10 3 года назад +1

    Was waiting for this part 2, liked it very much, thanks 😉
    I agree that sometimes is nice to build something that isn't the usual "ultimate build" but a much more realistic configuration that normal people would have had.
    I recently re-build my first "1999" computer and played the same games I used to play on it back then, and yes, with most of them I had to make compromises on settings in order to make them playable but the experience felt much more authentic 🙂
    Question: is that SD-Card holder made of plastic or metal? If it's metal I would not be comfortable having it to touch the voodoo2 😲
    Tip: if you export and upload your video in 1440p, RUclips will use the vp09 codec (instead of avc1) and your video will look even better (they do use vp09 for 1080p/30 video but only for very popular video/channels)

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Thanks glad you enjoyed it! It is indeed fun to experience things a bit more period correct once in a while.
      As far as the bracket goes it's all plastic (3d print) so should be all good there!
      Thanks for the heads up on the video quality I've been doing a bit of digging and may have to look at options there. Currently I do 1080p/60 mostly because my camera can then handle all the wonky CRT refresh rates vs shooting at 4k as I assume I probably don't want to upscale 1080 to 1440 during the render process. I'll keep investigating it though it's an intruiguing option!

  • @marcelocorpucci1742
    @marcelocorpucci1742 3 года назад

    Great video, Rik! Cheers from Argentina!

  • @georgez8859
    @georgez8859 3 года назад +1

    Very Nice Thanks for the Video

  • @Asriazh
    @Asriazh 3 года назад

    Who doesn't like to watch the progress bar of a Win98 installation? Perfect thing to unwind to ^_^ Those who don't like it, can't be trusted!

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Haha fair point! I feel that by the time you are loading up an OS on a retro machine you are making some real progress perhaps leaving behind some issues with the hardware (until driver installation comes into play). It's a nice moment of zen!

  • @mito-pb8qg
    @mito-pb8qg 3 года назад +1

    14:52 Oh god goosebumps. D:

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      Haha yeah I still totally love that startup sound. Just had to include it in all its glory...

  • @0zzm0dious
    @0zzm0dious 3 года назад

    you should plug in an old hard drive... not for general use, but just so we get that old hard drive spooling up sound.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад

      Not a bad idea! But the problem I keep running into is the fact all these old spinning disks keep failing hah. But yes... I do miss the sound for sure it's part of the experience.

  • @upgrade1373
    @upgrade1373 10 месяцев назад

    I should have my rig up and running in a few days I hope

  • @xBruceLee88x
    @xBruceLee88x 3 года назад

    Ah yes, starcraft. I miss the "spawned" edition that let you install a smaller version of the game for getting a lan match going, it cut the cinema and audio of the mission brief, story stuff, etc. You could play the campaign if you wanted but missed out on the vids and voices during dialog with text instead.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      I do miss the spawned installs too. Felt like such a nice nod with them understanding it'd allow more people to experience the game. Westwood didn't do spawned installations like Blizzard but at least you could play multiplayer with just one of the discs and it came with 2 so it was something!

  • @RaPtOr9600
    @RaPtOr9600 3 года назад

    This video make me find my only one working AT super socket 7 machine AMD K6-266 mhz.
    But both of my voodoos 2 are defective, artifacts.
    But someday i will get proper PCI card for that PC.
    I scrambled my box of parts and found Riva128 but its AGP

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      Oof sorry the Voodoo 2 cards don't work. It stinks when old stuff like that is busted especially with artifacts which I know is hard to recover from.
      I keep running into the issue too that there are often plenty of AGP cards but many of the machines I built or get access to are limited to PCI which further limits options, at least what I have. Thus total hodgepodge builds are born!

    • @RaPtOr9600
      @RaPtOr9600 3 года назад

      ​@@RiksRandomRetro
      Left in cold storage over the years and probably something messed them up, cold or humidity.
      I remember times when voodoo were common now days very expensive and rare

  • @pentiummmx2294
    @pentiummmx2294 2 года назад

    i just did a pentium ii voodoo 2 sli retro rig.
    ASUS P2B
    Pentium II 400
    128 MB RAM
    S3 Virge DX
    3Dfx Voodoo 2 8MB SLI
    Sound Blaster 16
    Windows 98 SE

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  2 года назад

      Very nice! That is an incredibly solid 98 machine with a wide range of game options for sure.

  • @calumward1192
    @calumward1192 2 года назад

    This pc still played better than my Pentium III 700 and TNT2 m64… I hate that card

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  2 года назад

      Yeah it's easy to get locked in on the best of the best all the time which it feels like we rarely had (well I didn't at least). The M64 was... something lol. Either way I've had fun exploring more era appropriate computers and "realistic" setups for the day which I feel this machine really is.

  • @BadManiac
    @BadManiac 3 года назад

    Technically there was competition for the voodoo 2, the Riva TnT beats it in non glide games, and ATI Rage Fury beats them both hands down with later drivers. And both the Fury and TnT have way crisper image quality.
    Problem was that ATIs drivers sucked arse at launch. If you test them now, the Rage Fury takes the single card performance crown in 1998. Nothing touches Voodoo2 sli though.

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      You know as I wrote and recorded that line I think I went for a little bit of hyperbole but the essense came through haha! You are definitely technically correct (the best kind of correct) but I will say at least at launch I lusted after a Voodoo 2 like no other card. I still had my Voodoo 1 however and just ended up skipping it altogether for I'm pretty sure a TNT.
      Either way a single Voodoo 2 8 MB is fun to experience just from the sake of that feels more likely what people had, price was after all important.

    • @BadManiac
      @BadManiac 3 года назад +1

      @@RiksRandomRetro when the game natively supports glide, which most from the time did, the voodoos are, way faster simply because glide offloads the cpu incredibly well. I have a pair of 8mb cards in my 98 k6-2 pc, along with an ATI Rage Fury, for the best of both worlds :)

    • @RiksRandomRetro
      @RiksRandomRetro  3 года назад +1

      Hah very sweet setup. I'd love to give a Rage Fury a whirl but I'm saddened by the retro tax on everything these days.