Understand Launch Monitor Numbers | TrottieGolf
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- To help you enjoy my "Tour PLYR Fittings" series I have created this weeks upload.
Fitters & PLYR's all need to know this key data in order to get the most from each session.
As always enjoy & ALL / ANY QUESTIONS are welcome.
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Another great vid Trottie! I appreciate you man!!
Can you do a video explaining different putter shafts and their benefits please? Would love some more information about that. Also, as someone relatively new to the game, I'm not sure exactly what to look for when testing out putters. Love your videos, great information for deeper thinkers of the game.
Nice question & I'll plan to make a plan. Thx for the follow
Gotta love these Tuesday videos!!! 🤙🏾😎
Nice job ty ,, love knowledge!!! Quick ? Is there a cut off for swing speed when not to use a low spin Driver ??? Iam border 100 swing speed with Driver and I game the Sim Driver !! Would the Sim Max work better for my swing speed ?? Thanks again awesome video !!
Thx man. Driver spin rate all based on golf ball model choice, speed, loft & club delivery.... & shaft choice to a point as that can impact dynamic loft at impact. So in answer to your point there isn't a specific MPH # it's more to do with how you deliver the club & I think that's evident from the tour as we often see a mix between the two models year on year..... Good question PLYR
Really great content and incredible to see the talents these pros have. May I suggest that the majority of your audience are not pros or single figure amateurs. So it would be great to see you work with a few “normal” golfers. Then your audience can relate better. In addition, a typical problem for most amateurs with irons is their hig dynamic lofts. With a 31 deg 7 iron they are often hitting the ball with that loft. The top pros and amateurs are hitting with way less lift and therefore compressing the ball much better. I am sure you can illustrate this and give advice on lowering there dynamic loft and therefore increasing ball speed, length and improved trajectory.
👍👍yes! Exactly! And i would like to see what clubs they are fitting..
Great video trottie! I was wondering how much you can trust the normalised numbers on the trackman? I went to a club fit for the p770 7i and it was telling me ball speed 130, carry around 185-190y with around 6-6.5k spin and I'm only sceptical because I've never hit that distance with a 33 degree lofted 7i before in my life!
Excellent video, thx👍. Any suggestions for an accurate, portable & cheaper launch monitor that still has the key stats you mentioned? Great tip with the alignment sticks, will definitely use that👍👍👍
hmmmmm no sorry man, I just use TrackMan as I like it
THANK YOU TROTTIE
Great stuff, have do you now if you need to cut or ad length on the shafts?
Center strike is a massive one there
OK
is a question. How about a chart showing a range of spin numbers for each club that would be considered average in categories segregated by handicap? Same thing with launch angles.
The concept being a person buys a golf monitor and it tells him the 10 things but with out a desired range or value they dont know if they need more or less. Attack angle will be less on long irons than shorter but by how much etc?
Trottie, I’ve been told that I hit down on my irons too much and my launch is low 7 iron -7/8 13/14 degrees launch. What can I do to lesson the angle of attack
Amazing 🧅’s!!!!!
Great stuff! Can you talk a little about angle of attack from short iron to long iron? I realize some people are diggers and some are pickers, I just was curious how it differs as we move through the bag. Thanks for the awesome content.
Yea sure that's a good one as we move forward..... I'm a digging for sure :0)
Loving the videos, great advice and tips made easy for the average golfer. I’m just been promoted to the role of a fitter within a retail business and am absorbing it all at the moment. Yesterday I hit a 7 iron with ball speed 85mph approx,20deg launch, with only 3500spin 179 carry approx. Slight draw shape. I am curious about the spin,you mentioned take the number on the club and add 500,so I should be looking around 7500 but am closer to half,what’s the effect?. My Smash factor falls between 1.38-1.41. Any feedback would be much appreciated,keep up the great work
7000 to 7500 works on a straight or cut shot , you’re using a 790 I assume with those numbers?
So interesting and a great video
Do pros just need this information?
All depends on what you’re working on and when the tournament starts …. Closer to tournament start I’d give less info
Great stuff! Just to clarify, positive path number tell you your swing is “in to out”or “out to in”?
In-to-out: positive path, out-to-in: negative path
Not always, it’s the opposite for left handers. Anything right of target line is positive
Great video mate!! Could I ask one question in regards to club path.
Is there a figure that I should be aiming for? I currently have 3 to 6 degrees club path, should I be trying to get it closer to 0? I hit most of my shots with a draw as I have face to path angles from -1 to -3.
Any help.woyld be much appreciated as I have just started using launch monitors.
Cheers
Those numbers are okay providing your playing consistently and matching the face, therefore hitting that baby draw. Needless to say the cut becomes tough from there, almost impossible unless it's a push cut.
I'd say with irons try and work a touch more left, this will then add spin and create more compression. Long term a more neutral path will give you more shot shape options and bring consistency to your game.
@@trottiegolf thanks mate much appreciated, cheers
Two questions:
1) How do you calibrate the TM to club speed, and does it need to be done per player?
2) Is there a reason you're not running a newer model TM?
2) This was the monitor I grabbed first and I don't like going too deep into numbers with my fitting
1)You can place markers on the club to help the monitors pick up the head & yes it needs to be done for each PLYR
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Not sure why I answered them backwards but it happened :0)
@@trottiegolf I am here for this back to front answer :D Thank you!
If you're a recreational golfer tending to play up in the hills on your home course where the wind often swirls 30mph ish, what would be the target spin rate for each iron? For eg, your rule of thumbs suggest a 6 iron would normally by in the region of 6x1000 + 500 = 6500 ish. In general I hit the ball further than most recreational golfers with driver (170mph ball speed) and 3 wood (165 ish mph ball speed). However with irons I'm Mr Average for distance and visually it's all height and spin, which of course only gets worse when it's windy. Should I still target a 6500 rpm spin with a 6 iron fitting? Should I aim for 5000rpm due to my home course being wind a lot of the time? Any advice would be more than welcome thanks...
Firstly great speed numbers, keep at that and it's great to hear you list your spin rates numbers too.
With that speed you should be able to live in the 6500 area (assuming 6 iron) but given your location of home course I would look to try and get this to be stock at 6000.
With the speeds you list 5000 will just create rockets that will not hold greens.
As you improve (I don't know your hcp level) but you should be able to knock spin off any shot with more ease than add spin.
Again a tricky one as I don't know your level but the PX Low Spin shaft is a solid option to investigate with a nice players head like the MC or the MB.
Good luck and keep at it
Nice one Mr T
How can I find out the average club head speed to carry the ball 50 yards? Would it be the same for LPGA, PGA and recreational golfers since the ball is going 50 yards
Yes I think that's a good measure. Keep in mind consistency of stroke though, turf conditions, ball type.
When you bring up horizontal swing plane. As a fitter, Very often we get the golfers who are extremely steep, 68-74° swing plane. Attack angle of -4 to -8. With a path that is -6 to -16. Without getting into crazy lessons- how do you alter the clubs to get the best strike in terms of: 1. center ness of contact
2. Efficient contact (solid strike) not thin/fat
1) with a good efficient plyr I'd look at lie angle
2) I'd look at swing weight & then the lesson route.... I would often provide a lesson in a fitting if I felt like the situation needed it. Not saying I'd to it on tour but amateurs who need help there opposed to new sticks I'd offer it up & then work the clubs in
Do you weigh the mass of each golf ball? How do you get rpm down from 4500 rpm to 2000 rpm? Ball speed is 172-192mph. Which part of the ball should I hit? Can you make a low torque shaft for me?
no I don't measure mass of ball, I just TM have done all that.
Your attack angle needs to be addressed and the loft you play if you're getting that much spin
Tee it high and hit it high in the blade to lower spin too
my coach always wants me to hit it super low, does that mean I swing slow?
Which launch monitor would you recommend to someone who doesn't want to break the bank or doesn't have the funds to buy a trackman? Something that would be good for an amateur. My handicap is 7.
Sounds like I need to do some launch monitor research, sorry I've had this question and not come up with a solid answer. I tend to lean towards TrackMan
@@trottiegolf trackman is definitely the best launch monitor out there. It's just way too expensive for the average player. Would definitely love to hear your opinion in a video comparing the different launch monitors that can be bought by the regular player. Especially from someone as knowledgeable as yourself.
You mentioned the ball has a huge impact on speed. How do you dial in the right ball for a player. I know I have a lower swing speed and trying to find a ball that gives me the best performance without all the tech available.
I dropped a vid on ball fitting, check out the #tourtrucktuesday playlist …. Maybe it’s time for a freshie ✌🏻
Yo bro what app donyou use on yr phone as I noticed you hit a shot and yr app show you yr swing path but on the app you use in that box it also shows you the average .
That's a screen grab from the TrackMan device
@trottiegolf, what's a good launch angle range with a driver that you like to see on certain ball speeds? For example, 140 ball speed, 145 , 150, 155, 160 and so on?
I talk about this a lot in all my driver / carbonwood vids. Your angles need to change based on club delivery & spin rate, there isn't one fixed answer but this is optimal numbers...... To be fair..... I like the question & if it's coming up then you're not the only one, I'll expand on this and make a vid. Tough subject to make fun but I'll get the info out there. Stay tuned!!
@@trottiegolf I live a mile away from The Kingdom, would love to be your test dummy.
Just curious when building and fitting irons how often do you guys check the frequency of the set or sst pure a set of irons shaft? Just about every if not every x100, modus, px, player I see plays logo down on tour so I’m guessing rarely if ever? Sorry for the out of context question
Yea for us it's rarely BUT that's not to say there isn't a cult group of players who swear by puring. Personally I'm not sold on it but on the same note I'm from the school that adjusting the loft sleeve and moving the spine can have a massive impact on ball flight because it's impacting LOFT which directly hits the ball. Conclusion is if you want to test out puring then I don't see why you wouldn't? If you have the itch then you're gonna have to satisfy it :0)
@@trottiegolf yep been testing it for awhile have a set of p7mc with $ taper 130x that’s been pured and a set that’s not pured. I don’t see the benefits.
I don’t see any downside obviously either.
I will say the pured set which was also frequency matched has the same “feel” throughout the set. I’m not sure if that’s a puring thing or more In line with the frequency. I’d have to fully agree on loft sleeve as well. To many other things are changing to give a direct reflection back to the stiff side of the shaft. I have played the logo at the target for awhile and recently had the head re installed under the same settings with the logo down and I’m not seeing any difference either.
Can you recommend a device for the average golfer?
I had a Titleist fitting that was completely wrong for me. I don't trust Trackman. Can you wholeheartedly back it up?
I am not going to hate on any launch monitor but I will say eyes and ball flight don't lie. Only use your monitors to confirm what you're feeling / seeing and then capture data and learn from that. At least that's how I like to use them..... but I will say it's rare these days that they're far off.
Is there any possibility we will see a sim2 vs sim2 max video in the future?
🔮…. 🤔🤣
How do we know what launch angle is best for each club?
google for "pga/lpga tour averages" from trackman
Thank you
Would love to know around what swing speed for a 6 iron you would cut off a 5 iron to a hybrid or fairway wood
All based on strike & a PLYR's confidence with the long irons PLUS what's their goals & desired land angles. That's a Vid for sure....
What is the minimum price of a monitor to work with those data? I had a Mevo that was not enough accurate… thanks!
Honestly I don't know the market too well, I'm a go to TrackMan guy, love their products & always have but I get it.... BIG price tag
Thx man :)
What app is that on your phone
What driver numbers should I see for a swing speed of 100 mph… launch, spin, height?
14°, spin 2500, height 27yards (Ballspeed 150mph, aoa 3-4°, land angle 37°) are my numbers, which perform best on most courses (mostly dry conditions)
@@Cohen177what’s your dynamic loft? What driver loft do you play?
I went on trackman after seeing this and I have a sim 2 max at 9.5 2 clicks higher with an oban devotion. I was htting up 5 degrees but I'm still spinning it over 3000 rpm. Why could this be??
Too much loft. Two clicks higher adds loft, go back to standard & you’re 💵
@@trottiegolf thanks a million ill be changing it right away
Which app do you use on your phone is it TrackMan
Yes pro
When you're fitting someone with a slower swing speed/ball speed to a sim2 max os for example what is an acceptable spin rate and land angle for a 7 iron so it will stop on the green?
Depends on the speed but I’d work off 6000 - 6500 land angle would depend on club delivery
@@trottiegolf Thanks. A lot of the guys I see have spin rates sub 5000 and some are below 4000 using real balls and hitting off of mats.
@@hbyrdut it all depends on speed & model of iron. I expect if they’re not spinning it then they’re game improvement irons that’ll launch very high
@@trottiegolf Thanks
Which launch monitor are you using?
TrackMan
@@trottiegolf Thank you
What is the best way to keep my launch angle down? I launch my 6 iron around 20 degrees.
Model of iron
Shaft choice
Swing Weight
Compress it
@@trottiegolf playing the new p770 with modus 120s. Standard SW.
@@chulhunchang do you feel you could handle P7MC's? That'll help for sure
@@trottiegolf thanks mate i’ll look into that!!
@trottiegolf I took your word and got myself P770 4-6 P7MC from 7-P wedge in Project X 6.0. I am loving this blended P770/P7MC set combo. I have another question in regards to my gapping. My wedges are 50 54 58(bent to 59). I been noticing that the gapping between P and 50 is quite close. Would you recommend bending 9 and P stronger or for me to weaken the 50 and 54 wedges. Would be great to get your feedback. Thanks in advance.
Rittle me this Trottie, how are you able to get peak height up without spin jumping up?
Hit it out of the correct part of the blade, which is most likely CG of golf ball above CG of club.
Shallow angle of attack and then full send
@@trottiegolf I wanna steal you from TM
@@TheTomgrossman86 🤣 we starting a golf company?
@@trottiegolf you know it!
how high is too high? my driver spins in the high 2000s to low 3000s and has apex of 140-160ft
What's your Angle of Attack? You might be living in a world where that's optimum?
@@trottiegolf 4-6deg up depending on if I’m really trying to get after it.
so what loft 8 iron should spin around 8500?
If you have speed & you want steep decent angles yes
If you launch it high and don't compress the ball then "NO"
Drop that as far as 7000 but you gotta then have launch
Should try looking at numbers with sloping and uphill lies. Not every shot is played on a flat lie.