Guess what y'all? I've dedicated a new video to those confused and flabbergasted at the title of this video. Yes, you right there saying that I'm blaming "RUclips"... please see link below: ruclips.net/video/KdT3ClpuiYM/видео.html
The gel didn't break her hair, it was series of action she took after not being able to detangle that essentially loc'd her hair. She should've thoroughly rinsed her hair with hot water to rinse out all the gel, then apply a conditioner with mad slip (that she is familiar with, not a new product) then finger detangle and follow it up with a wide tooth combif she's not comfortable using a brush. Adding oil only further "glued" her hair together (imagine how gunky gel, conditioner, and oil is old hair) into a locs and clarifying it with the shampoo stripped any chance of untangling it because she stripped all the moisture/slip needed to pull the tangles apart and on top of that hair is most fragile and brittle when it it unmoisturized, therefore further manipulation would only result in breakage from there. *Never detangle on unmoisturized hair* All that aside, I'm sorry this happened to her and I hope she doesn't cut all her hair off, she needs professional trim and some treatments to keep it moving and growing. Her hair is still length goals and this one incident didn't damage her entire head to the root.
Daye La Soul I completely agree. She definitely shouldn’t have used a new product to detangle. When she said Aussie Moist didn’t help I almost fell out of my chair because that’s what I used to detangle and it works every time. She shouldn’t have started with the shampoo... That stripped the moisture and helped to tangle it further.
Sis, I'm so sorry, but I think I know what happened because it happened to me. Strictly finger detangling leaves behind a few hairs that have shed. They eventually make their way out of the hair, but that can take a few days, so some shed hair is always left behind if you strictly finger detangle. The gel "locked" the shed hairs that hadn't been removed and once it dried, that was it. The shed tangled hairs "locked" around your hair strands and there was really nothing you could do. I strictly finger detangled for about 2 years and noticed that this kind of thing would happen if I decided to use gel. I, now, detangle with a comb about once a month or every two months to remove any shed hair that's been left behind from finger detangling. Don't worry, it will grow back! You have excellent hair habits and have taught me a lot.
Yeh I used to finger detangle but I started using the Felicia leatherwood brush and I don't shed maybe quarter size amount - wash twice a week if I can
4c ladies, if you have a hair emergency with matted hair, try this old school product= Queen Helene Original Cholesterol conditioning Creme, the cheap one. Before you shampoo spritz small sections with water then apply the conditioner to detangle. I have tightly curled, dense 4c hair, this works every time.
I AM NOT MY HAIR, I AM NOT THIS SKIN, I AM NOT YOUR EXPECTATIONS NO. ✊ YOU ARE MORE THAN YOUR HAIR AND YES THIS IS HEART BREAKING BUT HAIR GROWS BACK. YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE TOOLS. DON'T LET THIS BEAT YOU
Some people would say its just hair, BUT when it comes to 4C HAIR that is TAILBONE LENGTH it is a whole other story. Its is incredibly difficult to manage 4c hair and 4c girls get little love for their hair. Watching this video literally made me want to cry because you've made a such huge achievement getting your hair so long and healthy and I have 4c hair too. If it makes you feel better your hair is still MUCH longer than most 4c people and when you style it a lot of people won't really notice your hair is damage because of the texture. Try using a steamer on slightly wet hair with your regular detangling products. Wish you the best!
neon5311 it depends on the person tbh I have type 4 hair that’s long and people make it seem like long hair is a big deal after years of damaging my hair I’m about three years natural and my hair is down my back I’m honestly ready to cut my hair people swear my hair is fake and it’s annoying I didn’t go natural for length but the health of my hair everyone makes it seem like black girls having long hair is rare and it’s annoying
Richelle Echevarria you took that the wrong way did you not see where I said I went natural for healthy hair not length you really took my comment the wrong way seriously ? Okay...
Nelly Uchiha. I think the popularity of wigs, extensions, etc. has a lot to do with why some people don't believe it's all yours. I don't blame you for getting annoyed. Wish I had that problem. Funny, how people who don't care about length often have it and those of us who are striving so hard to grow it longer have a tough time. Maybe the advice one YTer gave not to obsess has some merit.
With your hair type, you didn't detangle your hair well enough and that is why your hair knotted up. Its not necessarily the gels fault. I honestly use to watch your videos and wondered how you have gotten so far without your hair knotting up because you just don't detangle it enough from what I see. When the hair isn't detangled properly all the shedded hair just sits there tangling with the rest of the hair so the gel formed a barrier around those Knotts making it hard to come out. You will get through this setback and will be able to share with us how you revived your hair. I know that I will definitely be watching.
i agree with what you said. I have the same hair type as her, and I use gels all the time. Hell ive gelled my hair in a ponytail for a week. Done twistouts with gel, for a week or two. However, I usually finger detangle the hell out of my hair with a slippery conditioner before shampooing to cut down on the tangles, because shampooing tangle hair is a nightmare. but I feel like she did that because its her usual wash routine and didnt expect the gel to do that.
Everyone has experienced a set back. It can be repaired with a little tender love and care. Deep condition and focus in protective styling. It will be ok.
I think saying RUclips broke your hair is a bit disingenuous. I expected to hear you tried some crazy hair advice that be floating around, like the Vick’s Vapor Rub thing, but instead you say RUclips broke your hair because you used something hoping it’d make your hair look better on camera. I feel for you, you’re obviously in pain and hurting, but RUclips had nothing to do with it. Blessings on your continued hair journey. I’ll be watching and wishing you well. 🙂
@CravingCurlyKinks I agree with @PhDBeautyJunkie: you should take this moment to REPAIR damaged hair. Surely, you are in shock right now, but this is also an OPPORTUNITY to show how to deal with this type of issue as a part of your otherwise SUCCESSFUL hair journey. We are with you!!! 🤟🏾
When last did you thoroughly detangle your hair with a comb? Did you thoroughly detangle your hair before applying the gel? I ask this because it is NEVER a good idea to apply gel to hair that has not been thoroughly detangled. Definitely a recipe for tangled matted hair. Also, I’ve noticed that when you have super kinky hair and you finger detangle only, often times you are not fully removing all of the shed hairs causing some shed hair to be trapped in. With that being said, gels have the tendency to clump the strands together sometimes creating curls depending on the hair type. So Maybe the shed hairs clumped together and tangled themselves around the non-shed hair causing it to be matted? And what made it worse was that you left the twist in for 2 days giving it more time to become even more matted. Then on top of that while your hair was matted, you used a clarifying shampoo! Seems like it was a combination of different things that caused this setback. I’ve seen women with kinkier Texture than yourself use eco styler gel with no issues. The trick was that they all had Super detangled hair and had a good leave-in moisturized before applying the gel.
Can y'all please not get caught up in how she phrased things.... "RUclips" did this to her because she wouldn't have done all this extra stuff with the eco styler if she didn't have a channel on youtube. She was doing it for the camera. She even explained it. So yeah... let's take a deep breath people. It's not that deep.
gigglyfitzgirl obviously it is that deep...she has tears in her eyes....maybe this will teach many RUclips's with hair channels that thier hair is their glory and not some guinea pig...shame but Ohhh well.
I agree. I think the title is misplaced. RUclips didn't break her hair, she broke it. She decided to try something she saw on RUclips but as someone who gives others advice. She should know everything isn't for everyone's hairs. For 7 years she's been natural and never did that and shouldn't start it now. I'm sorry she went through that and is hurting because if it but you can't blame RUclips for something you made your own decision on
It wasn’t the gel itself, likely the technique of application. Always use a moisturizer, oil, or cream (or all three) before adding gel. Never put straight gel on your hair with nothing in between. Our hair type does not do well with that. Also don’t put hair in the toilet!! You can cause problems with your system.
Let me ask a question. I know you strive not to overly detangle your hair (cause it leads to breakage) but did you thoroughly detangle your hair before adding the gel? The reason ppl detangle completely from root to tip (usually with a detangling tool) before wash n gos is not only for definition. But any tangles left in your hair (even if they are normally harmless and are easily kept at bay with oils and butters) will be locked in, almost glued in, with gels. Gels with protein or drying alcohols (like eco) only make this worse and can quickly cause matts and tangles. Dry detangling with an oil (prepoo, or hot oil treatment) before washing can be lifesaving when working with gel, because soap will reduce the oils in your hair and make detangling afterwards even worse because you have less slip!
Naomi Mordi Yeah and the times I've done wash n gos after i haven't in a while, if i don't prepoo and detangle beforehand, wash day is way more of a struggle than usual.
Michelle Gomez Well I don't think its a common sense thing. She wasn't used to using gel like that so taking those extra steps wasn't intuitive. She doesn't usually detangle that thoroughly because she doesn't have to, since her hair is so easily maintained using oils and butters. It was an easy mistake to make in her situation.
Danica Kelly totally agree! As I was listening to her explain what happened, I wondered if the fact that her hair is never completely detangled played a major role in this set back. I tried finger detangling for about 6 months and I'm not a fan at all. I had more breakage from continuous styling on top of tangles and knots than when I detangled with my Denman every wash day.
You have shown me more than any other RUclipsr how to care for my hair. From the detangling to fanning out your hair to the smoothing, saved me from further damage. Not many show that process of dealing with knots and removing the tangled hair. I also have been stuck at bra strap length for about a year but now I have the confidence because of you that it’ll get me to the next milestone. I follow you Debbie, not for the variety of styles but strictly for length retention. Totally understand your pain and we will get through this. Much love
Gel does just that for me. It acts like glue in my hair. For me, I had to detox out with Bentonite clay, then remove the shedding hair. I just can’t do gel anymore. Sooooo sorry about this.
SUGARBEAR911 I know right! People can be so inconsiderate and mean, smh. If the same thing would had happened to them, they would want someone else to be patient and listen to them. Doesn’t cost a penny to have a morsel of Compassion.
It was not the gel necessarily. It was matted hair that was not detangled before washing. The Shea Moisture products locked in wax. Shea butter is the consistency of wax.
I think also the fact that it was a clarifying shampoo which strips the hair of moisture which aided in the knotting and matting. Maybe beginning with a conditioner or lots of oil and wet hair to finger detangle first before using a clarifying shampoo
Yes I agree, the combination of products is what lead to the locking. I have 4c hair and I've always used eco styler gel...but mixing the gel with certain formulas will have a different effects on the hair.
Nightfox Rushing my thing is why didn’t she detangle her Hair first ???? 🤔 I’m not 4c and I ALWAYS detangle for Hair before shampooing . Should’ve known better 😐
I think that the eco gel had already matted her 4c hair but she did not realize it. She then washed her hair while it was in twists which contributed to the locs, mats and knots. She panicked and used additional products which further matted her hair. I think the eco gel did it. Heavy gels are not for all hair types especially ones with kinker textures such as 4c hair.
I didn't have this type of setback, but I did have a setback last year that caused me to have to cut off 10-12 in of my hair. I went from tailbone length to Mid back length, which for me was catastrophic because it has taken me 6 to 7 years to get to that point. I've been using Curly Proverbz method of ayurvedic hair care for a year and I've gained about 7-8 inches back, in addition to a large amount of thickness that I've never seen before. I highly suggest it. There was nothing wrong with the hair care methods I used before, but Curly Proverbz method was really great because my hair was in a really weak state and it took a lot of strengthening to stop the breakage and get it to a point where I felt comfortable enough to get a good cut and start again. I'm sure everyone has some really great suggestions, but what worked best for me was putting my hair away so that I couldn't see it. I experimented a lot with updos, boho locs, and even clip-ins. Only seeing my hair loose about once a month was helpful because I wasn't tracking growth every day. MSM, collagen powder, and bamboo tea helped me a great deal as well. You will get there. Will be following your journey back to your goals.
Ava S. The one that comes to mind first is "Grow Beastmode Hair", something like that. She is absolutely the bomb. Also check out Natural Barnet. Imo, those two are the very best for Ayurvedic recipes. Up and coming, (new to Ayurvedic hair care ) is Goff Meech. She just recently discovered the benefits but what she may lack in knowledge and experience she more than makes up for with her exuberance and enthusiasm.
Ayurvedic had me shook. I used for a month in my hair and couldn't believe the thickness. I had to cut down to using on my scalp only on wash days. I could barely handle my hair.
Seems like had you detangled your hair first BEFORE washing, the damage would not have been so severe. The gel caused the shed hairs to lock and tangle and washing your hair without detangling first just made it worse. This reminds me of when I washed my hair without detangling after taking down braids back in 2012 while I still relaxed. The shed hairs caused locking and I ended up needing a big cut.
I’m SOOO sorry this happened to you. A similar thing happened to me with a diy paprika hair dye. I HEALED my hair by using Indian *Ghee* ( melted unsalted butter) I had to leave it in for 24 hours under plastic cap then finger detangle. It smells really bad but it worked. PLEASE research ghee for the hair 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Jen W. The pain is real 😔 my hair is my main hobby and a set back like this is the worst. It’s not only damage but the sense of failure that makes it worse. Sometimes emotional pain is more damaging than physical.
I am so sorry that you and @Craving Curly Kinks had to deal with the setback, but I am glad that you found ghee to be helpful (just finished watching that video and a few others)...I will be making a batch of ghee soon, as I was not aware of ghee's other amazing properties for the hair (tastes good in Indian food haha). Thanks for sharing your story about this, as I realize that crazy matting episodes such as these can happen under the weirdest/most random circumstances. One never knows what new products out there that one tries could cause a terrible matting episode, so it's best to be prepared as possible to handle the situation.
Omg....I just want to hug you right now. I'm so sorry this happened to you. You have so much hair, so I can only imagine the torture that you are going through while trying to remove all of those knots and matts. You are my hair inspiration, and you STILL are. I look forward to watching you grow out that beautiful mane of yours. I've been through this, & it will hurt for awhile, but you will move pass this. Your subscribers are here for you, girl.
I’d say this is the perfect time for a proper brush detangle with lots of conditioner and a good trim. That way you’re starting with detangled hair and you can continue with finger detangling in the future. Gel and partially detangled hair don’t go together. Now you know …
aww sis i can really feel your frustration through the camera. i damaged my hair with protein during the summer of 16. i was frustrated out of my mind. Then i tried to recover by going to a salon. they tore brushes and combs through my hair and i watched my hair trickle down my body and their arms and hands. I was devastated and left with thin thin hair. But one and a half years later my hair looks like nothing has ever destroyed it. you can get through this. I promise
Sorry this happened to you. I’ve been natural since 2009, and have had at least 3 setbacks. It sucks, but my hair always grows back stronger and thicker.
I'm sorry to hear this but youtube did not break your hair sometimes we need to not listen to others everyone hair is different. stick to the same products that you have used for a long time. I am so frightened to use other products because I know what is best for my hair. Don't worry your hair will get healthy again go back to your products that you was using.❤
You know this is a half-baked statement right? You're insulting a black woman by calling her a black bitch and at the same time trying to defend another black woman. Huh?
It's not RUclips that's the issue. When applying *any type of gel* especially if you're going to use it all over your hair your hair must be *fully detangled* prior to using it, otherwise once the gel dries the hair will lock up and tangle. And honestly your hair doesn't look that bad. Yes it's uneven and thinner than what it used to be, but a nice cut 6-7 inches, deep conditioning treatments, daily moisture + heavy sealing and protective styling can help remedy the situation. BC'ing down to a TWA or shaving it all off doesn't seem logical, unless your roots are damaged too. Anyways, I hope you find a solution. Good luck.
I really feel for you. It is interesting that even with hair as long and abundant as yours it still did not seem enough for the YT natural hair community, you believed it would look better 'shiny', I imagine like non 4c hair? I'm hopeful a natural hair community that rids itself completely of the desire for the aesthetic of non 4c hair emerges.
Maribeja Intel I agree her 4c hair was "shiny" enough already. I am very sympathetic about what happened to her but she had so much hair she did not need to add to it. The crochet braid video topic was more appropriate for a presenter with less length. Craving curly kinks's videos are excellent for natural hair care. Sometimes, part of the journey includes setbacks and learning that some styles and/or products are best left to other hair types, lengths, ect.
I went natural in 2001, before YT, but within a couple of years of hunting sites like napturality and fokti and seeing the obsession with texture shots and product junkism, which was really about finding products that changed your hair texture but in 'a natural way', I checked out. I really feel for CCK because she got caught up in the YT natural hair culture and that did not get her hair to what it was. I have had plenty of hair catastrophies and you recover. The quality of advice, genuine and with good heart, CCK gave she'll recover her hair and emerge more knowledgeable than ever. I agree with you, part of the journey are these setbacks which is hard to hear when the shock is so raw. CCK can make something good out of this journey, whether she chooses to share it or not.
Hello Beautiful. You know what I want to share something with you. I’ve been Natural for a long time but over the last 2 years I have been focusing on growing my hair Long and Strong. My hair had never been so Long Beautiful Thick and Healthy. It was so Healthy that it looked like a wig. Anyway on the exact same day that this experience happened to you, I had a setback as well. I decided to use a henna treatment on my hair. For what reason I do not know!!!!! My hair was already PERFECT!!! Anyway it dried my hair and loosened my curls. My hair has not been the same. I was devastated. I Cried and Cried and Stressed. But eventually I decided that I had to Move On. It was a Life Lesson. If it Ain’t broke don’t fix it!!!! Our hair likes what it likes!!!! I learned to stick with what your hair likes, and keep it Simple!!! One Blessed thing is our hair grows everyday. Even though it’s disappointing there’s a lesson in the experience. Learn from it and Grow Beautiful. Maybe you went through it for others. But Guess what? GOD WILL GIVE YOU DOUBLE FOR YOUR TROUBLE. KEEP GROWING QUEEN KEEP SHINING THAT IS WHY YOU WERE PUT ON THIS EARTH!!! That’s what I’m doing. I had a setback for a set up!!!! Learn and keep Going. DONT STOP!!!! Keep Deep Conditioning and get back to your oils, take your Herbs and eat healthy. Your hair will be back in no time!!!! I PROMISE. I ordered MoorKet Deep Conditioner. 22 Century She is a blogger, I ordered her all Natural Deep Conditioner and Shampoo bar. Also follow my business page TheGreenTreeLife on IG and Facebook. I created an Herbal Supplement that’s good for the body to help promote Healthy Hair as well. Love you and Keep Going cause I AM!!!!!!! Xoxoxo
From experience , I have dealt with extremely matted hair. To the point of free form locs. It can be saved , and i also at some point had matted hair but it was matted at the root. Take it as a life lesson. You can RESTORE your hair. Do NOT GIVE UP. Just calm down and think logically. Trust me i Know because I usually just want to cut because its so sad but you can fix it, without being scissor happy.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, you will recover, we all go through it, thanks for being Honest thanks for sharing, this is why we love your channel 😊
ABeautyAdmirer and then she used a gel. Gel is supposed to hold hair in place by making it hard. And then she left her hair hard and twisted for 2 days without a comb to detangle. Huge mistake
Please don't sacrifice your hair for us. You have enough catalog for us to wait for your next video. I know the pressure for putting out content can get to you, but please, not at your own detriment. We're still going to love you and appreciate your contributions to the natural hair community. You are an inspiration through and through. Take your time sweetie.
I understand and I feel your pain because 4c hair grows extra slow and it's a pain. 7 years of growth and nearly seeing that going down isn't funny but girl you still have length your hair will grow back so don't give up!! Also you can't blame youtube, it was your own fault hunny, Nobody asked you to make your hair look shinier on Camera and I know you are upset but DO NOT chop that hair, you can still pull it off!!
I feel your pain hun😔So so sorry this happened to you. As hard as I know it was, I'm grateful you shared this setback. It'll save others from experiencing the same thing. RUclips experiments have caused countless setbacks for myself and many others. Take it in stride and use it as an opportunity to nurture your hair back to optimal health (which I know you will)😌Continue on your journey and trust me, you'll reach and inspire more and more people in the process🖤
Your hair is so beautiful and lengthy. I'm in the process of starting my natural hair journey and I am considering cutting it off again because when I cut it the first time I immediately permed it because I convinced myself I could not handle it. I just wanted to say I have many friends that would not even start to go natural because of this mentality, but it's been empowering and I've found so much pride in my hair. You've been natural for 7 years so you're more familiar with the process so take it as an opportunity to shake things up in your life, I wish you the best of luck during this time of recovery. I'm sure you will figure out an amazing plan of action, continue to teach others the do's/don'ts. You are an INSPIRATION, with or without hair!
I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to you...your hair will grow back don't worry... continue with TLC I'm praying for you...I am a RUclipsr as well and I try to keep my regimen pretty simple ,and maybe that's why I don't get a lot of views, but I'm fine with it because I'm not going to go through a lot to loss what I worked 3 years for...you will be fine hair always grows back ...
Hi. I just wanted to give some input on this to try and help. My 4c hair does this everytime with eco styler gel. It looks like dreads because the gel kind of glues the strands together. when we have sticky stuff like that clinging to our already tangle-prone strands, it creates clumps where the gel sticks the most, and it is all the way down the strand. the key is to use a slippery oil (like my avocado oil) to DRY finger detangle from ENDS to root to loosen and separate the gel clumps and stuck together strands BEFORE you wet it for washing, or it becomes a nightmare once you wet it and it starts curling and shrinking. After the dry detangling I use a very soft bristle brush to brush most of the gel residue out. It's so soft it can't really act as a brush. It just gets that separated glue crap (gel) out because once you wet it, it gets even more sticky. I know it seems unable to be saved in this "dread" state, but it can be if you're used to the idea of the glue like properties of the eco styler on certain 4c hair. I wish i could have been there to help you out
Wow sorry to hear that. Herbal Essence Hello Hydration is my holy grail and detangler. I always use that as my final rinse. If taking down braids or twists I suggest it prior. Use this set back as your come back. The fact that you kept it together for the video shows how professional you are and your integrity. Grieve the hair loss but know that you are still beautiful. Your new hair journey will give you something that makes you stand out from the rest. What next .... is up to you!!! You are well informed about oils, vitamins, rice water. healthier food options, you have a whole new year to take us on a new journey. I'm rooting for you.
This happened to me after doing a clay wash and protein treatment in one day. (Big mistake.) My hair clumped together and dreaded. It was a nightmare. Like you said, even using conditioner and deep conditioner I could not detangle it without breaking my hair apart. My drain look like your pictures for 2 months. My hair fell out for months. My hair was the healthiest it had ever been in my life prior to this incident, so i was devastated. It finally stopped falling out after doing another protein treatment on freshly washed hair. My hair is healthy again, however, it is so thin....(not that thin, but in comparison to what it had been it is thin.) Sigh, I know how you feel! But it'll grow back, Honey! There is some lesson in here somewhere. stay positive!
Try 22nd Century natural products. I swear by her conditioner. Her conditioner is oil based and when this happens she recommends putting it in your hair dry and then try to detangle. NEVER try to detangle wet hair when it extremely matted. Hope everything works out for u.
I grew mine to almost waist length and broke it all off wearing buns. Mine became matted in the bun and broke off in large clumps. Now starting over with lots of TLC. Having people with no experience at two different salons handle my hair twice was no good either. I lost length and bulk in 2017. Sporting a braided ponytail for the next year with lots of conditioning. We will get our hair back and then some quickly in Jesus name. RUclips natural ladies are giving suggestions only. Bentonite clay wash to reset and get the Ecostyler chemicals out. Give it a few days before you decide to cut. Make sure it’s as bad as you think. I pray Gods protection over us from the wicked and jealous people and for continued growth maximum growth better than ever in “Jesus Name”.
A RJ Bunning on wet hair caused it to mat up when it dried. I was not gentle talking it down and detangling and it caused clumps to break off. May not have been enough oil in there either.
This is the first comment I've ever made on RUclips in the many years I've been on. You have inspired me to be proud of my 4C hair. I am a lawyer and I didn't think natural hair was "professional". I am a few months natural and your tips have already made a difference. Please don't give up. We love your honesty and your personality. You do make a difference and we don't require "shiny" camera hair. Show us what got you to where you were don't be fooled by testing products and what not. You know what works. Show us that. This is an opportunity to regroup and be better. Disregard the negative comments because you do make a positive difference. Hugs and blessings to you🤗🙏
Sorry 😰😰😰😰. Hair is different with different people. I have really kinky hair. I however noticed at 1 year that gel (whatever brand) was snapping off my hair, I stopped. I later heard a few more people say the same. Its not everyone's hair that needs every product we see.
I’m sorry this happened to you but youtube didn’t break your hair. Whenever youtubers use ecostyler they always use a very moisturizing leave in and cream styler to moisturize their hair with properly detangling
It will grow out, don't cut it. It has happened to me and I was so angry I cut it. I really wish I had just waited until I was calm to do anything. I was so upset I only made it worse doing thing I would never had don't to my hair before. By the time I was done it was the worst scene ever. The only thing that saved me from doing a total big chop was my hubby, he begged and pleaded with me not to cut so much. Hear I am today and my hair is back and I've learned a lot of what not to do.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm not sure if you did, but I always co-wash before using any shampoo to make sure most of the product build up and gel is rinsed out (I use Eco-styler gel every day without any issues). The few times that my hair tangled really bad (almost matted) is when I forgot to co-wash and slap shampoo straight onto my hair. If you didn't co-wash, I am willing to bet the damage was caused by a combination of the gel and shampoo.
Jennifer Meadows unfortunately this is natural hair 101, trial and error. It's just a shame that this happened to her so far along in her hair journey. I've only been natural for about two years now and I know I would be so pissed if this happened to me, so I can only imagine how she must feel with all those years under her belt. Saw her do another video since then and she seems in a better place. Not to mention when she posted this it had only been mere hours and the hurt was still raw. Glad to see she's doing better now. As a side note, this would be a great video on a shortcut to quick permanent dreadlocks 😄
Yooo, got half way thru your video to tell you I have experienced that same thing before with those kind of gels. Even being 3c (Curly-Coily) those individual, matted knots is what I deal with if my hair happens to get dry. I understand the Coily gals pain with quickly, tangled hair. We still support your tutorials - this was an eye-opener
You have taught me sooo much!!! You have given us so much! Don’t give up Sis! Thank you for being transparent with us and sharing your most vulnerable moment with us.
I've always wondered how my hair has grown...but some youtubers hair don't. Then I realize that all the videos of them manipulating their hair for videos causes breakage. It is certainly a risk. Some will say the risks far outweighs the benefits, especially when they do youtube as a career.
I agree...I've been natural for 5 years now and I don't get how some of the the natural you tubers are constantly changing their hairstyles as if it would not be damaging. I've seen alot of styles I would love to try but not during the winter. I can wait. I've even notice some RUclips even ones I follow gives all this advice and it's been ahwile since I've seen them on Camera with their own hair "out". makes me wonder??? then this same person six months before said coconut oil was causing breakage only to turn around and start using again. just crazy
I'm so sorry that happened. You are still an inspiration to others. Remember it's hair and God willing it will grow back and be stronger and longer than ever before.
IT was the GEL. "GEL" means to bond together. There is a difference between "styling gel" and "moisturizing gel". Just gotta be more careful and READ. But remember "everything happens for a reason". Keep up the good work❤
I can feel the disappointment and hurt in your voice!! We all have setbacks dear! I was in a stressful program in college, ended up on medication, and I dropped out anyway. With that being said, my hair came right out too, once I got off the meds. I had to cut 7 inches off the frontal portion of my crown, and I was devastated!!! But, I left the back long. That was two years ago, and my hair is thriving! The back portion is to my elbows, but the front is layered to catch up with the back. In conclusion, don't start over. Just cut off what needs to go and move on with your routine. Your hair will grow back. Be strong girl, I am sorry this happened to you!!!
So sorry that happened to you. Seemed it has been a combination of both product. Shea Moisture actually doesn't work on my hair (Except Black Castor Oil Shampoo). Coconut Oil did a similar thing to my hair a few years ago. I still remember my hair becoming hard then in the shower feeling someTHINGS going doing my body. I did a semi-big chop and now I am back to 2013 length. Giving you hugs!!
RUclips did not break your hair! The gel did not break your hair! The Shea moisture product did not break your hair! You washed your hair with shampoo without detangleling😞 you should know better.
I am milan but she didn't. She usually pre-poo but she didn't because she wanted try new SM it's her own damn fault. She also finger detangled before adding gels so all that unshedded hair locked after it was wet
You go somewhere fool! I didn't say anything bad about her, but im not one of those subbies thats just gonna keep quiet when I think she broke her own hair. Mind you I didnt unsubscribe because I still want to watch her and not to bash her. But it is what it is.
Sorry to read that my dear! I understand your feelings. The advantage of this experience is that you already know the techniques to have healthy hair. We appreciate all the effort you have put to share your hair tips. I learned a lot!
You are blessed. The very fact you have the strength and courage to come on video and share that experience indicates it. You already know what to do. You have been learning and self training for at least six years. And you have excelled! You even did a vid helping your mom with a similar situation and excelled. (Honor the father and mother that it may be well with you). You could probably could (and do) grow hair in your sleep. By that I mean the techniques you use and skills you practice are second nature. Your hair has been so well cared for it will more than likely quickly rebound and not take as long to regrew length and be healthy. Also for others in cases of emergency sometimes contacting the product company and obtaining their advice may prove helpful. You are blessed. Here you GROW again.😂
Dr. Simple Beauty 300 Are you sure you weren't pulling & racking to hard??? With any styling tool you need to be gentle & careful(heck even with a comb).. The brush is used for blowouts & to detangled but gentle while hair is wet.
When it comes to natural hair, you have to research EVERYTHING You have to modify a Denman brush by taking every other row out At least two rows Naptural85 have a video on this
That wasn't the issue. I have 3b/c hair (like Sunkiss Alba). It was the darn RUBBER BASE that was tearing up my fine hair. Modified brushes are for thick/course hair. But thank you for your trying to help :)
The eco styler most likely activated as soon as you wet it.. once you wet your hair, each strand automatically infused with each other. That's the only thing that makes sense. I hope this helped. Your hair is beautiful with the two side buns and your hoops, gonna try this cute look. And even when you took it down to show us, your hair still looks healthy. You should do a protein treatment and a deep conditioning. 😍
I was gonna go to sleep in a wet eco styler saturated bun tonight but after watching this I decided to wash and condition it. Currently have bantu knots in. 😩😩
Eco styler gel is very drying. You can use it, but through trial and error I have learned that you have to layer your hair with moisturuzer, oil or butter first before using any gel for that matter. It doesn't have a hold of 10 for no reason. Plus, you have to make sure your hair is fully detangled before using gel. It will lock up your hair with the shed hair.
gigglyfitzgirl ecostyler gave me a bald spot. I don't know why 4c naturals still use that shitty ass gel. I solved my matting dreadlock tangle issue a long time ago by using greese and crisco. lubrication from both conditioning oils like petroleum and lanolin and thick vegetable oils like crisco. I use it to detangle and seal after my moisturize (LCGO: liquid, leave in condition, grease, oil). I also use the lorecia fetherwood brush to help detangle once I've finger detangle first and saturated the gease an oil in my hair. dephne madyara is a ytbr with bleached 4c hair the same length as this woman's used to be and she uses grease. lioness Davis use grease as well. grease imo is best for 4c naturals with fine hair strands. without it, I seriously do not think it is possible for fine stranded 4c naturals to permanently retain serious length. (unless they slather their hair with animal fat.) grease like blue magic, or any oil based conditioner that mixes petroleum/mineral oil and lanolin(boiled sheep sebum) lubricates the hair and prevents the kind of friction that causes both matting and breakage, allowing u to retain length especially when used as a part of LCGO. this is just my opinion though.
I specialize in pain free detangling. You do not detangle by combing. You cannot detangle a mat by combing downward or using a brush. Take warm Babassu oil and apply to your hair. Leave it on with a cap for 24 hours. If no babassu use olive oil. After it has been left on. Slowly take the back section (about 1 x 1 square inch) Take the hair, start at the end and gentle spead the hair sideways. SIDEWAYS..JUST THE TIPS. Spread until really thin (see through) After it is see through, gently comb down. Move up another inch and do the same. Continue slowly up the section spreading side ways, then combing down. I wish I was near you. I would detangle your hair for free. When thoroughly detangled, use ACV on scalp and leave on for 30 min with cap. Then wash hair as usual. The amount of hair lost is less than 100 strands. Take your time.
I feel your pain. I know you will find a way to get through this setback. Try to reframe it as a challenge to get your hair back to being healthy and even better than you had it before. Sending you a big hug.
Sorry for your set back. Praying you find the strength to push forward. Unfortunately I know what you're going through. Last year my hair broke off terribly. I'm still trying to recover. Stay strong.
So sorry to hear that, youtube is all about pushing products on consumers. You know what works for your hair, just stick to that. Having kinky hair we must learn what works for us and leave the trendy products alone, it's too much. Keeping it simple works best. Lady your bless in spite of the setback, let's continue to share and learn...stay blessed
we all could tell u how sorry we are but we know and understand how devastating it truly is but remember how god bless u with the knowledge to nurture your hair please don't give up go back to your routine god will bless u again. with the gorgeous u had he will bless you with Greatnes And more more luxurious hair in your head believe in that have faith
Yes Sweetheart you can stop wondering, it was the gel. The very same thing happened to me, tho I was rocking some braids. I used gel a few times to slick down my edges and around the back. I had individuals too. Girl by the time I took my braids down I had developed dreadlocks starting from the back growing upward. My hair was only about 18 1/2 inches long when I had the braids put in. Needless to say I had to cut all that off and start all over again. So yes Ma-luv that's what has happened to you but you are blessed. You didn't have to cut all your strength off. Your hair is beautiful. Thank you for sharing your story and your time with us. Keep your head up and be inspired Ladybug. You are Beautiful. Sincerely, DT
It may have been the clarifying shampoo combined with the gel. Gel naturally is drying for hair, but to wash with clarifying shampoo after your hair has been molded into a twist style for some days is the perfect setting for that type of tangling. I’m so sorry this happened to you. Pick up your head, don’t give up on your hair; it’s a part of you. There’s no casting it aside, love it in its condition and carry on taking care of it.
I usually don't comment on videos. But, I had to thank you for sharing your hair story and being honest with your viewers. Everything happens for a reason, maybe it's the Lord way of changing your focus away from hair. Nonetheless, you are still my hair inspiration. And, although it takes time and patience I know if hair is still your main focus after this unfortunate event, you will get back to where you were in time. Much love and keep your head up!
Maria Small, hi, I don't know if it's me you are commenting to or not, but if it's me yes I watched the video. And, there was nothing I said that was negative. I don't know how old you are, but sometimes it takes an unfortunate or tragic event in someone life to open up their eyes and realize life is more than "this or that ". Please think about that before you start commenting back to me. FYI: This is one of the reason why I don't like commenting on RUclips videos. Too many people can't just read a comment without taking it too personal.
I think it is a very harsh lesson in respecting the beauty of 4C. I hope the Lord has better things to do with his time than send messages to women who like to share how they take care of their hair.
Gods speed love. I've had so many hair setbacks , that I can't even count. I defiantly stopped listening to RUclips for hair recipes etc. I follow what my stylist recommends and what I like and leave it at that.. With dedication and consistency your hair will come back full circle. I do know this, Shea moisture ruined my hair years ago, my hair was flourishing etc and my stylist had to cut a bob. I haven't touched it since..
I am so sorry. I know this is devastating. I still think your hair is GORGEOUS! I know with the practices you implement, your hair will bounce back faster than you think.
Let me start by saying how truly sorry I am for your set back. I just celebrated 7 years natural also and God must have allowed your video to come up in my feed because I just went from bra strap length to neck length in a matter of 3 weeks because of a cornbraid style I just took down on Friday night (1/12/18). My hair was literally locked like I had dreads. I could not undo the knots with my fingers or even with a small safety pin. I had to cut each and every knot out of my head. I am holding the tears back bc I have never worn a wig before now, Sunday (1/14/18). My stylist rushed over to see the damage. She cut as much as she could but refused to shave my head. It is only God! I’ve decided to see this as a lesson learned and continue on my journey to healthy hair. Braids may not be for me. It’s been 7 years since I had crown braids with extensions. Thank you for sharing. I will continue to watch u recover as I recover. Maybe I can gain some tips for u as well. Blessings.
It sounds more like the shea butter (in the shea moisture products) or the thick butters you used locked in the hair. This has happened to me, if your hair has clumped or tangled use apple cider vinegar diluted with water to detangle. Using this method will led to minimal loss with cutting off clumping and tangles. It’s the combination of the products and trying to use a clarifying shampoo on tangled hair is what caused this.
With all due respect, I don't understand why it's RUclips's fault that YOU decided to use Ecostyle on your hair. I watch tons of RUclips hair tutorials from women who use all sorts of products on their hair and just because the products work for others doesn't mean they will work for me. If I do decide to use something that I saw on RUclips outside of my normal routine and it so happens not to work out for me guess whose fault it is? Mine! I myself love Ecostyle. I buy it by the buckets full. However, on the other hand, if I do protective styles, as many women swear by, my scalp will be a dry, itchy mess and my hair becomes brittle. I found that out the hard way but I don't blame the proponents of protective styling for any set backs I experienced for trying it. I understand you are heartbroken because growing out our type of hair can be quite a journey but we have to be careful and remember that everything ain't for everybody. Life is full of lessons, and your hair will grow back longer and stronger because of that😉
Cheri H. I don’t understand why this comment isn’t higher up. It’s the truth. As sad as it is I’m confused as to how it’s RUclips’s fault. I wish her all the best in growing out her hair going forward.
I think a little compassion may be in order. She wasn't necessarily blaming the RUclips. She was just saying that if she weren't shooting a video on RUclips, she would not have gone outside of her normal routine which led to this tragic event.
Cheri H. Hunni!!!! hunni!!! YES!!!! Thank you and she kept using the product.. A lot of ppl do not know how to use Eco or gel period. I love Eco and I agree with everything you said....
Look at that courage! “You survived something that must of felt like it would kill you...now straighten your crown and move forward like the Queen you are”! Thank you for helping us keep our crown’s straight by sharing!
When we try a different product only time will tell how our hair responded. This is a good time to show how you repair your hair. I get to see your good days and bad days. Thanks so much for sharing this video because I appreciate your realness. It's gon be ok.
I understand how you feel my sister. It’s very obvious that you take pride in your hair. It’s very heartbreaking when you put time, effort and so much tender loving care into your hair then something takes it away. I’m so sorry this happened to your hair. I’m sure you will love and nurture your hair back to good health again, you have some great supporters and subscribers that will join you on this journey. You are still beautiful, this setback won’t last forever. Take care and be blessed
I could definitely understand how it feels.. i've had my share of setbacks! Keep your head up, i know it's hard but it will recover, it might take some time but keep your head up!
I am so sorry for your loss. I know how devastating this can be. I feel your pain. Thank you for sharing, educating, inspiring women all over the world. You are beautiful inside and out.
Soo sad ! My hair is quite similar to yours, not the length,but the texture and eco styler gel did to mine,exactly the same thing it did to yours, 3 years ago, praise god my hair was shorter .lot of kisses and take care 😘
kinkyhairwood "Sorry for my english". I just want to tell you and every body to be carrefoul with "shea moisture" the compagnie shea moisture was sell to one who don't like or respect afro hair : "l'oréal" before and "dove" now. And ecostyler composition is not clean; but he do a good job. Because of the composition of the gel; the mix with another bed product can become also dangerous.
I feel your pain. 4 yrs ago I had a major set back when I got Senegalese twist. I believe this set back will be a major come back for you. People admire Long and healthy hair but sometimes they need to know how to repair hair that’s thin brittle and damage. As your follower I’m excited to see this hair repair journey that you’ll take and I sure your channel will soar because people need the help you will give them in future videos to repair your hair.
It's ok, you have an advantage on your healthy hair habits. Pray and take your time!!!😙😙😙 I appreciate all your videos don't let that discourage you curl sista 😉!!! Love you😇😇😇!
I'm so sorry this happened to your hair. That's heartbreaking. Maybe a healing time with frequent castor oil deep treatments, low manipulation, protective styling and let time sort out the tangles and breakage? I'm old enough to be able to say that some things happen for a reason, though we may never know why, but your healing time back to strong hair may open a new avenue of videos for you...I'm sure there are others out there who have experienced this too and need your learning curve on how to get back to good. I wish you all success back to healthy hair.
Guess what y'all? I've dedicated a new video to those confused and flabbergasted at the title of this video. Yes, you right there saying that I'm blaming "RUclips"... please see link below:
ruclips.net/video/KdT3ClpuiYM/видео.html
Does anyone low key wished their hair looked her set back 👀
brittanymilgan yep.....me girl👀
brittanymilgan YES LOL
brittanymilgan 😒
*slowly raises hand*
#MeToo
The gel didn't break her hair, it was series of action she took after not being able to detangle that essentially loc'd her hair. She should've thoroughly rinsed her hair with hot water to rinse out all the gel, then apply a conditioner with mad slip (that she is familiar with, not a new product) then finger detangle and follow it up with a wide tooth combif she's not comfortable using a brush. Adding oil only further "glued" her hair together (imagine how gunky gel, conditioner, and oil is old hair) into a locs and clarifying it with the shampoo stripped any chance of untangling it because she stripped all the moisture/slip needed to pull the tangles apart and on top of that hair is most fragile and brittle when it it unmoisturized, therefore further manipulation would only result in breakage from there. *Never detangle on unmoisturized hair*
All that aside, I'm sorry this happened to her and I hope she doesn't cut all her hair off, she needs professional trim and some treatments to keep it moving and growing. Her hair is still length goals and this one incident didn't damage her entire head to the root.
Daye La Soul I completely agree with you
Exactly this post needs to be pin to the top.
👏👏👏👏
Daye La Soul this is my routine when my hair is tangled...conditioner with extra slip is brilliant
Daye La Soul I completely agree. She definitely shouldn’t have used a new product to detangle. When she said Aussie Moist didn’t help I almost fell out of my chair because that’s what I used to detangle and it works every time. She shouldn’t have started with the shampoo... That stripped the moisture and helped to tangle it further.
Sis, I'm so sorry, but I think I know what happened because it happened to me. Strictly finger detangling leaves behind a few hairs that have shed. They eventually make their way out of the hair, but that can take a few days, so some shed hair is always left behind if you strictly finger detangle. The gel "locked" the shed hairs that hadn't been removed and once it dried, that was it. The shed tangled hairs "locked" around your hair strands and there was really nothing you could do. I strictly finger detangled for about 2 years and noticed that this kind of thing would happen if I decided to use gel. I, now, detangle with a comb about once a month or every two months to remove any shed hair that's been left behind from finger detangling. Don't worry, it will grow back! You have excellent hair habits and have taught me a lot.
Yeh I used to finger detangle but I started using the Felicia leatherwood brush and I don't shed maybe quarter size amount - wash twice a week if I can
Root Cause ~ The Natural Project i just got through talking to my 1t year old about this the other day!
That's why I finger detangle, then I go through it with the comb at the end to remove the rest of shed hair. Great advice.
Thats why I dont do the finger comb thing
Root Cause ~ The Natural Project I think u nailed it! It can be repaired though. Stay strong queen!!
A person does not know a mistake is a mistake until after it happens!!!
4c ladies, if you have a hair emergency with matted hair, try this old school product= Queen Helene Original Cholesterol conditioning Creme, the cheap one. Before you shampoo spritz small sections with water then apply the conditioner to detangle. I have tightly curled, dense 4c hair, this works every time.
Michelle Forrester i
Maybe you could do a video on why you felt like you wanted shinier hair for the you tube video?
Michelle Forrester Thanks - that conditioner is an oldie but goodie!
I use s curl no drip moisturizing spray, it detangles like a dream.
Michelle Forrester yeah definitely. With extreme knots detangling with thick conditioner on the hair helps alot.
I AM NOT MY HAIR, I AM NOT THIS SKIN, I AM NOT YOUR EXPECTATIONS NO. ✊
YOU ARE MORE THAN YOUR HAIR AND YES THIS IS HEART BREAKING BUT HAIR GROWS BACK. YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE TOOLS. DON'T LET THIS BEAT YOU
DEE J Amen, well said !
DEE J Tell It! Your Are Right And Sometimes We Can Lose Sight Of That!
Amen
Some people would say its just hair, BUT when it comes to 4C HAIR that is TAILBONE LENGTH it is a whole other story. Its is incredibly difficult to manage 4c hair and 4c girls get little love for their hair. Watching this video literally made me want to cry because you've made a such huge achievement getting your hair so long and healthy and I have 4c hair too. If it makes you feel better your hair is still MUCH longer than most 4c people and when you style it a lot of people won't really notice your hair is damage because of the texture. Try using a steamer on slightly wet hair with your regular detangling products. Wish you the best!
neon5311 it depends on the person tbh I have type 4 hair that’s long and people make it seem like long hair is a big deal after years of damaging my hair I’m about three years natural and my hair is down my back I’m honestly ready to cut my hair people swear my hair is fake and it’s annoying I didn’t go natural for length but the health of my hair everyone makes it seem like black girls having long hair is rare and it’s annoying
Nelly Uchiha So, you're gonna cut your hair, because people think it's fake? Seriously? Ok.
Richelle Echevarria no im cutting it because I personally want to and because it’s not a big deal like everyone makes it to be it’s just hair to me
Richelle Echevarria you took that the wrong way did you not see where I said I went natural for healthy hair not length you really took my comment the wrong way seriously ? Okay...
Nelly Uchiha. I think the popularity of wigs, extensions, etc. has a lot to do with why some people don't believe it's all yours. I don't blame you for getting annoyed. Wish I had that problem. Funny, how people who don't care about length often have it and those of us who are striving so hard to grow it longer have a tough time. Maybe the advice one YTer gave not to obsess has some merit.
Starts at 5:27.
Starts at 00:00. Her pain and frustration is valid and real. Don't take that away from her.
Nah 💯 these people got no sense, manners nor empathy.
Thank you! lol it was getting drawn out
I wish I'd seen this comment 6 minutes ago... Good grief.
Thank you. I can sympathize with her at 5:27. Geeeesh!
With your hair type, you didn't detangle your hair well enough and that is why your hair knotted up. Its not necessarily the gels fault. I honestly use to watch your videos and wondered how you have gotten so far without your hair knotting up because you just don't detangle it enough from what I see. When the hair isn't detangled properly all the shedded hair just sits there tangling with the rest of the hair so the gel formed a barrier around those Knotts making it hard to come out. You will get through this setback and will be able to share with us how you revived your hair. I know that I will definitely be watching.
kerbieb I agree with ALL you said.
Me too
Thats what I said. Thats why I dont finger comb. I have to use a seamless comb. Finger combing does not get all the shed hair out
i agree with what you said. I have the same hair type as her, and I use gels all the time. Hell ive gelled my hair in a ponytail for a week. Done twistouts with gel, for a week or two. However, I usually finger detangle the hell out of my hair with a slippery conditioner before shampooing to cut down on the tangles, because shampooing tangle hair is a nightmare. but I feel like she did that because its her usual wash routine and didnt expect the gel to do that.
You are right
Girl you should've looked up a video on how to remove dreads! People take them out all the time, it just requires patience.
Everyone has experienced a set back. It can be repaired with a little tender love and care. Deep condition and focus in protective styling. It will be ok.
I think saying RUclips broke your hair is a bit disingenuous. I expected to hear you tried some crazy hair advice that be floating around, like the Vick’s Vapor Rub thing, but instead you say RUclips broke your hair because you used something hoping it’d make your hair look better on camera. I feel for you, you’re obviously in pain and hurting, but RUclips had nothing to do with it. Blessings on your continued hair journey. I’ll be watching and wishing you well. 🙂
Brown Sista you’re the only person I see speaking knowledge, she definitely has to be held accountable for her actions but God bless her
This is probably the most distressing vid I’ve seen. I hope she gets healing in her heart ❤️
Brown Sista this really needed to be said 👏🏾
Listen that Vicks works tho...speaking from experience lol
bnalogunbibs 9am
@CravingCurlyKinks I agree with @PhDBeautyJunkie: you should take this moment to REPAIR damaged hair. Surely, you are in shock right now, but this is also an OPPORTUNITY to show how to deal with this type of issue as a part of your otherwise SUCCESSFUL hair journey. We are with you!!! 🤟🏾
Totally agree
thats a good sentiment but..... easier said than done
When last did you thoroughly detangle your hair with a comb? Did you thoroughly detangle your hair before applying the gel? I ask this because it is NEVER a good idea to apply gel to hair that has not been thoroughly detangled. Definitely a recipe for tangled matted hair.
Also, I’ve noticed that when you have super kinky hair and you finger detangle only, often times you are not fully removing all of the shed hairs causing some shed hair to be trapped in.
With that being said, gels have the tendency to clump the strands together sometimes creating curls depending on the hair type. So Maybe the shed hairs clumped together and tangled themselves around the non-shed hair causing it to be matted? And what made it worse was that you left the twist in for 2 days giving it more time to become even more matted.
Then on top of that while your hair was matted, you used a clarifying shampoo! Seems like it was a combination of different things that caused this setback.
I’ve seen women with kinkier Texture than yourself use eco styler gel with no issues. The trick was that they all had Super detangled hair and had a good leave-in moisturized before applying the gel.
Can y'all please not get caught up in how she phrased things.... "RUclips" did this to her because she wouldn't have done all this extra stuff with the eco styler if she didn't have a channel on youtube. She was doing it for the camera. She even explained it. So yeah... let's take a deep breath people. It's not that deep.
gigglyfitzgirl obviously it is that deep...she has tears in her eyes....maybe this will teach many RUclips's with hair channels that thier hair is their glory and not some guinea pig...shame but Ohhh well.
I think she titled it wrong also. I think it would be more appropriate to say gel destroyed her hair or Eco styler gel
I agree. I think the title is misplaced. RUclips didn't break her hair, she broke it. She decided to try something she saw on RUclips but as someone who gives others advice. She should know everything isn't for everyone's hairs. For 7 years she's been natural and never did that and shouldn't start it now. I'm sorry she went through that and is hurting because if it but you can't blame RUclips for something you made your own decision on
Shawty Lo I'm addressing her audience....not her.
Danielle White Did you not watch the whole video? That's not what happened.
It wasn’t the gel itself, likely the technique of application. Always use a moisturizer, oil, or cream (or all three) before adding gel. Never put straight gel on your hair with nothing in between. Our hair type does not do well with that. Also don’t put hair in the toilet!! You can cause problems with your system.
Let me ask a question. I know you strive not to overly detangle your hair (cause it leads to breakage) but did you thoroughly detangle your hair before adding the gel? The reason ppl detangle completely from root to tip (usually with a detangling tool) before wash n gos is not only for definition. But any tangles left in your hair (even if they are normally harmless and are easily kept at bay with oils and butters) will be locked in, almost glued in, with gels. Gels with protein or drying alcohols (like eco) only make this worse and can quickly cause matts and tangles. Dry detangling with an oil (prepoo, or hot oil treatment) before washing can be lifesaving when working with gel, because soap will reduce the oils in your hair and make detangling afterwards even worse because you have less slip!
Danica Kelly True. I get the best wash n gos on super super detangled hair. My coils have a diameter of about 2mm give or take (yes, needle size).
Naomi Mordi Yeah and the times I've done wash n gos after i haven't in a while, if i don't prepoo and detangle beforehand, wash day is way more of a struggle than usual.
Danica Kelly Agreed.. Common sense...
Michelle Gomez Well I don't think its a common sense thing. She wasn't used to using gel like that so taking those extra steps wasn't intuitive. She doesn't usually detangle that thoroughly because she doesn't have to, since her hair is so easily maintained using oils and butters. It was an easy mistake to make in her situation.
Danica Kelly totally agree! As I was listening to her explain what happened, I wondered if the fact that her hair is never completely detangled played a major role in this set back. I tried finger detangling for about 6 months and I'm not a fan at all. I had more breakage from continuous styling on top of tangles and knots than when I detangled with my Denman every wash day.
You have shown me more than any other RUclipsr how to care for my hair. From the detangling to fanning out your hair to the smoothing, saved me from further damage. Not many show that process of dealing with knots and removing the tangled hair. I also have been stuck at bra strap length for about a year but now I have the confidence because of you that it’ll get me to the next milestone. I follow you Debbie, not for the variety of styles but strictly for length retention. Totally understand your pain and we will get through this. Much love
Gel does just that for me. It acts like glue in my hair. For me, I had to detox out with Bentonite clay, then remove the shedding hair. I just can’t do gel anymore. Sooooo sorry about this.
Don’t start over! Many people have thinning hair, so maybe you can teach them how to fix it?
That Thing You See At The Corner Of Your Eye great perspective
Fixing it is probably starting over
Teach me how to keep the hair and grow the thin part back.
Imdaboss the thin parts don't grown back, hair grows from the scalp and not the end. The best way is to trin
I am SOOOOOO sorry hun. I'm praying for you.
Took u forever to explain what happened.
Tammie Currie seriously 😒.
Tammie Currie Sometimes When You Have A Set Back It Can Be Hard To Discuss! Don’t be so rude! You Could Have Changed The Channel!
SUGARBEAR911 I know right! People can be so inconsiderate and mean, smh. If the same thing would had happened to them, they would want someone else to be patient and listen to them. Doesn’t cost a penny to have a morsel of Compassion.
yeah i had to skip alot. alot of talking
My sister. You will get through this. Stay strong.
It was not the gel necessarily. It was matted hair that was not detangled before washing. The Shea Moisture products locked in wax. Shea butter is the consistency of wax.
I think also the fact that it was a clarifying shampoo which strips the hair of moisture which aided in the knotting and matting. Maybe beginning with a conditioner or lots of oil and wet hair to finger detangle first before using a clarifying shampoo
Yes I agree, the combination of products is what lead to the locking. I have 4c hair and I've always used eco styler gel...but mixing the gel with certain formulas will have a different effects on the hair.
Honestly, she didn't mention detangling her matted hair before washing
Nightfox Rushing my thing is why didn’t she detangle her Hair first ???? 🤔 I’m not 4c and I ALWAYS detangle for Hair before shampooing . Should’ve known better 😐
I think that the eco gel had already matted her 4c hair but she did not realize it. She then washed her hair while it was in twists which contributed to the locs, mats and knots. She panicked and used additional products which further matted her hair. I think the eco gel did it. Heavy gels are not for all hair types especially ones with kinker textures such as 4c hair.
I'm so sorry. I know exactly how you feel. Our hair is our crown.
I didn't have this type of setback, but I did have a setback last year that caused me to have to cut off 10-12 in of my hair. I went from tailbone length to Mid back length, which for me was catastrophic because it has taken me 6 to 7 years to get to that point. I've been using Curly Proverbz method of ayurvedic hair care for a year and I've gained about 7-8 inches back, in addition to a large amount of thickness that I've never seen before. I highly suggest it. There was nothing wrong with the hair care methods I used before, but Curly Proverbz method was really great because my hair was in a really weak state and it took a lot of strengthening to stop the breakage and get it to a point where I felt comfortable enough to get a good cut and start again. I'm sure everyone has some really great suggestions, but what worked best for me was putting my hair away so that I couldn't see it. I experimented a lot with updos, boho locs, and even clip-ins. Only seeing my hair loose about once a month was helpful because I wasn't tracking growth every day. MSM, collagen powder, and bamboo tea helped me a great deal as well. You will get there. Will be following your journey back to your goals.
Lauren Smith what videos of curly proverbz can you recommend? It's a bit overwhelming😳. I'm not really familiar with ayurvedic hair care
Ava S. The one that comes to mind first is "Grow Beastmode Hair", something like that. She is absolutely the bomb. Also check out Natural Barnet. Imo, those two are the very best for Ayurvedic recipes. Up and coming, (new to Ayurvedic hair care ) is Goff Meech. She just recently discovered the benefits but what she may lack in knowledge and experience she more than makes up for with her exuberance and enthusiasm.
Lauren Smith. Thanks so much. Ayurvedic hair care is the next branch of my journey. Feeling really encouraged, now.
Ayurvedic had me shook. I used for a month in my hair and couldn't believe the thickness. I had to cut down to using on my scalp only on wash days. I could barely handle my hair.
Curly proverbz is the bomb! My hair has grown significantly within the last 6 months because of ayurveda. She's God sent. Love her ❤
Seems like had you detangled your hair first BEFORE washing, the damage would not have been so severe. The gel caused the shed hairs to lock and tangle and washing your hair without detangling first just made it worse.
This reminds me of when I washed my hair without detangling after taking down braids back in 2012 while I still relaxed. The shed hairs caused locking and I ended up needing a big cut.
I’m SOOO sorry this happened to you. A similar thing happened to me with a diy paprika hair dye. I HEALED my hair by using Indian *Ghee* ( melted unsalted butter) I had to leave it in for 24 hours under plastic cap then finger detangle. It smells really bad but it worked. PLEASE research ghee for the hair 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I am watching your video now!
Jen W. Same I'm subbed to both
Jen W. The pain is real 😔 my hair is my main hobby and a set back like this is the worst. It’s not only damage but the sense of failure that makes it worse. Sometimes emotional pain is more damaging than physical.
I am so sorry that you and @Craving Curly Kinks had to deal with the setback, but I am glad that you found ghee to be helpful (just finished watching that video and a few others)...I will be making a batch of ghee soon, as I was not aware of ghee's other amazing properties for the hair (tastes good in Indian food haha). Thanks for sharing your story about this, as I realize that crazy matting episodes such as these can happen under the weirdest/most random circumstances. One never knows what new products out there that one tries could cause a terrible matting episode, so it's best to be prepared as possible to handle the situation.
Jen W. Exactly 💥🔥👊🏾💯
Don’t cry queen. It’s going to be okay. 🖤🖤🖤
Omg....I just want to hug you right now. I'm so sorry this happened to you. You have so much hair, so I can only imagine the torture that you are going through while trying to remove all of those knots and matts. You are my hair inspiration, and you STILL are. I look forward to watching you grow out that beautiful mane of yours. I've been through this, & it will hurt for awhile, but you will move pass this. Your subscribers are here for you, girl.
I’d say this is the perfect time for a proper brush detangle with lots of conditioner and a good trim. That way you’re starting with detangled hair and you can continue with finger detangling in the future. Gel and partially detangled hair don’t go together. Now you know …
aww sis i can really feel your frustration through the camera. i damaged my hair with protein during the summer of 16. i was frustrated out of my mind. Then i tried to recover by going to a salon. they tore brushes and combs through my hair and i watched my hair trickle down my body and their arms and hands. I was devastated and left with thin thin hair. But one and a half years later my hair looks like nothing has ever destroyed it. you can get through this. I promise
aegy00
Aww this was a sweet response 👏👏👏
Sorry this happened to you. I’ve been natural since 2009, and have had at least 3 setbacks. It sucks, but my hair always grows back stronger and thicker.
I'm sorry to hear this but youtube did not break your hair sometimes we need to not listen to others everyone hair is different. stick to the same products that you have used for a long time. I am so frightened to use other products because I know what is best for my hair. Don't worry your hair will get healthy again go back to your products that you was using.❤
You broke your hair.
NaturallyTheresa Sis apparently “RUclips” did this 😂😂😂😂😂
You know this is a half-baked statement right? You're insulting a black woman by calling her a black bitch and at the same time trying to defend another black woman. Huh?
Around 3 mins she says that she did it herself
This isn't RUclips fault. This is ALL on her.
NaturallyTheresa "Wellllllll" preacher voice lol
It's not RUclips that's the issue.
When applying *any type of gel* especially if you're going to use it all over your hair your hair must be *fully detangled* prior to using it, otherwise once the gel dries the hair will lock up and tangle. And honestly your hair doesn't look that bad. Yes it's uneven and thinner than what it used to be, but a nice cut 6-7 inches, deep conditioning treatments, daily moisture + heavy sealing and protective styling can help remedy the situation. BC'ing down to a TWA or shaving it all off doesn't seem logical, unless your roots are damaged too. Anyways, I hope you find a solution. Good luck.
True. Because i temeber sayin she doesnt detangle to the poin the comb glides easily that may have also be a factor
Amen to that
I was going to say the same thing I also would never use gel all alone. The hair needs some type of moisture and to be fully detangled
I really feel for you. It is interesting that even with hair as long and abundant as yours it still did not seem enough for the YT natural hair community, you believed it would look better 'shiny', I imagine like non 4c hair? I'm hopeful a natural hair community that rids itself completely of the desire for the aesthetic of non 4c hair emerges.
Maribeja Intel I agree her 4c hair was "shiny" enough already. I am very sympathetic about what happened to her but she had so much hair she did not need to add to it. The crochet braid video topic was more appropriate for a presenter with less length. Craving curly kinks's videos are excellent for natural hair care. Sometimes, part of the journey includes setbacks and learning that some styles and/or products are best left to other hair types, lengths, ect.
I went natural in 2001, before YT, but within a couple of years of hunting sites like napturality and fokti and seeing the obsession with texture shots and product junkism, which was really about finding products that changed your hair texture but in 'a natural way', I checked out. I really feel for CCK because she got caught up in the YT natural hair culture and that did not get her hair to what it was. I have had plenty of hair catastrophies and you recover. The quality of advice, genuine and with good heart, CCK gave she'll recover her hair and emerge more knowledgeable than ever. I agree with you, part of the journey are these setbacks which is hard to hear when the shock is so raw. CCK can make something good out of this journey, whether she chooses to share it or not.
Hello Beautiful. You know what I want to share something with you. I’ve been Natural for a long time but over the last 2 years I have been focusing on growing my hair Long and Strong. My hair had never been so Long Beautiful Thick and Healthy. It was so Healthy that it looked like a wig. Anyway on the exact same day that this experience happened to you, I had a setback as well. I decided to use a henna treatment on my hair. For what reason I do not know!!!!! My hair was already PERFECT!!! Anyway it dried my hair and loosened my curls. My hair has not been the same. I was devastated. I Cried and Cried and Stressed. But eventually I decided that I had to Move On. It was a Life Lesson. If it Ain’t broke don’t fix it!!!! Our hair likes what it likes!!!! I learned to stick with what your hair likes, and keep it Simple!!! One Blessed thing is our hair grows everyday. Even though it’s disappointing there’s a lesson in the experience. Learn from it and Grow Beautiful. Maybe you went through it for others. But Guess what? GOD WILL GIVE YOU DOUBLE FOR YOUR TROUBLE. KEEP GROWING QUEEN KEEP SHINING THAT IS WHY YOU WERE PUT ON THIS EARTH!!! That’s what I’m doing. I had a setback for a set up!!!! Learn and keep Going. DONT STOP!!!! Keep Deep Conditioning and get back to your oils, take your Herbs and eat healthy. Your hair will be back in no time!!!! I PROMISE. I ordered MoorKet Deep Conditioner. 22 Century She is a blogger, I ordered her all Natural Deep Conditioner and Shampoo bar. Also follow my business page TheGreenTreeLife on IG and Facebook. I created an Herbal Supplement that’s good for the body to help promote Healthy Hair as well. Love you and Keep Going cause I AM!!!!!!! Xoxoxo
From experience , I have dealt with extremely matted hair. To the point of free form locs. It can be saved , and i also at some point had matted hair but it was matted at the root. Take it as a life lesson. You can RESTORE your hair. Do NOT GIVE UP. Just calm down and think logically. Trust me i Know because I usually just want to cut because its so sad but you can fix it, without being scissor happy.
Jessica Pace can you tell me what you did to unmatt the hair, products used?
Do you mind sharing what caused the matting?
^^^ I asked OP what caused it not how to remove it.
It sounds like you broke your own hair doing experiments. RUclips didn't slap any products into your hair.
Jettie Jackson yep if you have hair as long as her hair, she should have a routine. Why would she change up?
black women always looking for a way to tear each other down. Sad.
Dee Gray Have You Ever Wanted To Do Something Different With Your Hair? You Don’t Have To Be Rude!
not rude.... Fact. After 6 years, you know what works with your hair. Watch Kimmaytube or love naturals. Routine is the key to longevity
Jettie Jackson FR! If you know what works for you don’t try and change cause you see new trends on RUclips.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, you will recover, we all go through it, thanks for being Honest thanks for sharing, this is why we love your channel 😊
Girl RUclips did not break your hair. You are too dramatic.
ABeautyAdmirer and then she used a gel. Gel is supposed to hold hair in place by making it hard. And then she left her hair hard and twisted for 2 days without a comb to detangle. Huge mistake
Please don't sacrifice your hair for us. You have enough catalog for us to wait for your next video. I know the pressure for putting out content can get to you, but please, not at your own detriment. We're still going to love you and appreciate your contributions to the natural hair community. You are an inspiration through and through. Take your time sweetie.
I understand and I feel your pain because 4c hair grows extra slow and it's a pain.
7 years of growth and nearly seeing that going down isn't funny but girl you still have length your hair will grow back so don't give up!!
Also you can't blame youtube, it was your own fault hunny, Nobody asked you to make your hair look shinier on Camera and I know you are upset but DO NOT chop that hair, you can still pull it off!!
4c hairs itself doesn't grow slowly it really depends on genetics, and retention
MusicalAleo
4c hair grows slow, mine does even with so much care, but my moms hair grow fast really fast her hair is 3a/3b 🙂
I'm 4C and I'm tailbone length. All Hair grows at different rates.
MinSweetSuga I also have 4c hair, and mine doesn't grow particularly slow
Well it's different for everyone then cause mine grows slow lol
I feel your pain hun😔So so sorry this happened to you. As hard as I know it was, I'm grateful you shared this setback. It'll save others from experiencing the same thing. RUclips experiments have caused countless setbacks for myself and many others. Take it in stride and use it as an opportunity to nurture your hair back to optimal health (which I know you will)😌Continue on your journey and trust me, you'll reach and inspire more and more people in the process🖤
Netta M
Your hair is so beautiful and lengthy. I'm in the process of starting my natural hair journey and I am considering cutting it off again because when I cut it the first time I immediately permed it because I convinced myself I could not handle it. I just wanted to say I have many friends that would not even start to go natural because of this mentality, but it's been empowering and I've found so much pride in my hair. You've been natural for 7 years so you're more familiar with the process so take it as an opportunity to shake things up in your life, I wish you the best of luck during this time of recovery. I'm sure you will figure out an amazing plan of action, continue to teach others the do's/don'ts. You are an INSPIRATION, with or without hair!
I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to you...your hair will grow back don't worry... continue with TLC I'm praying for you...I am a RUclipsr as well and I try to keep my regimen pretty simple ,and maybe that's why I don't get a lot of views, but I'm fine with it because I'm not going to go through a lot to loss what I worked 3 years for...you will be fine hair always grows back ...
Nurture&Natural Hall You and your daughter have beautiful hair!
Hi. I just wanted to give some input on this to try and help. My 4c hair does this everytime with eco styler gel. It looks like dreads because the gel kind of glues the strands together. when we have sticky stuff like that clinging to our already tangle-prone strands, it creates clumps where the gel sticks the most, and it is all the way down the strand. the key is to use a slippery oil (like my avocado oil) to DRY finger detangle from ENDS to root to loosen and separate the gel clumps and stuck together strands BEFORE you wet it for washing, or it becomes a nightmare once you wet it and it starts curling and shrinking. After the dry detangling I use a very soft bristle brush to brush most of the gel residue out. It's so soft it can't really act as a brush. It just gets that separated glue crap (gel) out because once you wet it, it gets even more sticky. I know it seems unable to be saved in this "dread" state, but it can be if you're used to the idea of the glue like properties of the eco styler on certain 4c hair. I wish i could have been there to help you out
Wow sorry to hear that. Herbal Essence Hello Hydration is my holy grail and detangler. I always use that as my final rinse. If taking down braids or twists I suggest it prior. Use this set back as your come back. The fact that you kept it together for the video shows how professional you are and your integrity. Grieve the hair loss but know that you are still beautiful. Your new hair journey will give you something that makes you stand out from the rest. What next .... is up to you!!! You are well informed about oils, vitamins, rice water. healthier food options, you have a whole new year to take us on a new journey. I'm rooting for you.
i agree the set back became more tragic due to the wash method used. i think shampoo made it worse and it was no bouncing back after that
This happened to me after doing a clay wash and protein treatment in one day. (Big mistake.) My hair clumped together and dreaded. It was a nightmare. Like you said, even using conditioner and deep conditioner I could not detangle it without breaking my hair apart. My drain look like your pictures for 2 months. My hair fell out for months. My hair was the healthiest it had ever been in my life prior to this incident, so i was devastated. It finally stopped falling out after doing another protein treatment on freshly washed hair. My hair is healthy again, however, it is so thin....(not that thin, but in comparison to what it had been it is thin.) Sigh, I know how you feel! But it'll grow back, Honey! There is some lesson in here somewhere. stay positive!
My hair did this after trying yarn braids. I deep condioned with coconut oil and aloe vera gel for 5 hours. It saved my hair.
Try 22nd Century natural products. I swear by her conditioner. Her conditioner is oil based and when this happens she recommends putting it in your hair dry and then try to detangle. NEVER try to detangle wet hair when it extremely matted. Hope everything works out for u.
Her website is www.moorket.com
I grew mine to almost waist length and broke it all off wearing buns. Mine became matted in the bun and broke off in large clumps. Now starting over with lots of TLC. Having people with no experience at two different salons handle my hair twice was no good either. I lost length and bulk in 2017.
Sporting a braided ponytail for the next year with lots of conditioning. We will get our hair back and then some quickly in Jesus name.
RUclips natural ladies are giving suggestions only. Bentonite clay wash to reset and get the Ecostyler chemicals out. Give it a few days before you decide to cut. Make sure it’s as bad as you think.
I pray Gods protection over us from the wicked and jealous people and for continued growth maximum growth better than ever in “Jesus Name”.
Proverbs31 Woman I thought buns are a protective style?
A RJ Bunning on wet hair caused it to mat up when it dried. I was not gentle talking it down and detangling and it caused clumps to break off. May not have been enough oil in there either.
A RJ people be sending curses when you look good and have long hair too...😒. Be careful on RUclips. God bless.
This is the first comment I've ever made on RUclips in the many years I've been on. You have inspired me to be proud of my 4C hair. I am a lawyer and I didn't think natural hair was "professional". I am a few months natural and your tips have already made a difference. Please don't give up. We love your honesty and your personality. You do make a difference and we don't require "shiny" camera hair. Show us what got you to where you were don't be fooled by testing products and what not. You know what works. Show us that. This is an opportunity to regroup and be better. Disregard the negative comments because you do make a positive difference. Hugs and blessings to you🤗🙏
Sorry 😰😰😰😰. Hair is different with different people. I have really kinky hair. I however noticed at 1 year that gel (whatever brand) was snapping off my hair, I stopped. I later heard a few more people say the same. Its not everyone's hair that needs every product we see.
I’m sorry this happened to you but youtube didn’t break your hair. Whenever youtubers use ecostyler they always use a very moisturizing leave in and cream styler to moisturize their hair with properly detangling
It will grow out, don't cut it. It has happened to me and I was so angry I cut it. I really wish I had just waited until I was calm to do anything. I was so upset I only made it worse doing thing I would never had don't to my hair before. By the time I was done it was the worst scene ever. The only thing that saved me from doing a total big chop was my hubby, he begged and pleaded with me not to cut so much. Hear I am today and my hair is back and I've learned a lot of what not to do.
AllAboutEve your hair looks gorgeous (in your pic) though! It really suits you
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm not sure if you did, but I always co-wash before using any shampoo to make sure most of the product build up and gel is rinsed out (I use Eco-styler gel every day without any issues). The few times that my hair tangled really bad (almost matted) is when I forgot to co-wash and slap shampoo straight onto my hair. If you didn't co-wash, I am willing to bet the damage was caused by a combination of the gel and shampoo.
Oh yea. But leaving in gel for two days in twists will do it. I did that before. My hair was so hard and tangled... I had a lot of breakage
Mozelle Elzora right I'm so confused how this happened
Ta Ta LOVE I think it just comes down to not everything is for everyone. Her hair just didn't agree with it, that's all really. Unfortunate for her.
Jennifer Meadows unfortunately this is natural hair 101, trial and error. It's just a shame that this happened to her so far along in her hair journey. I've only been natural for about two years now and I know I would be so pissed if this happened to me, so I can only imagine how she must feel with all those years under her belt. Saw her do another video since then and she seems in a better place. Not to mention when she posted this it had only been mere hours and the hurt was still raw. Glad to see she's doing better now.
As a side note, this would be a great video on a shortcut to quick permanent dreadlocks 😄
It’s okay! Keep your head up and keep going! It’ll grow back with more dedication. You got this!
+Breelyn Bigbee Awe thanks.
Yooo, got half way thru your video to tell you I have experienced that same thing before with those kind of gels. Even being 3c (Curly-Coily) those individual, matted knots is what I deal with if my hair happens to get dry. I understand the Coily gals pain with quickly, tangled hair. We still support your tutorials - this was an eye-opener
You have taught me sooo much!!! You have given us so much! Don’t give up Sis! Thank you for being transparent with us and sharing your most vulnerable moment with us.
This is why I stopped making natural hair videos so frequently! I’m sooo sorry this happened!
I've always wondered how my hair has grown...but some youtubers hair don't. Then I realize that all the videos of them manipulating their hair for videos causes breakage. It is certainly a risk. Some will say the risks far outweighs the benefits, especially when they do youtube as a career.
Michelle Nesbith-Sykes so true!
I agree...I've been natural for 5 years now and I don't get how some of the the natural you tubers are constantly changing their hairstyles as if it would not be damaging. I've seen alot of styles I would love to try but not during the winter. I can wait. I've even notice some RUclips even ones I follow gives all this advice and it's been ahwile since I've seen them on Camera with their own hair "out". makes me wonder??? then this same person six months before said coconut oil was causing breakage only to turn around and start using again. just crazy
jai dallas m
Definitely something I’m afraid of, I noticed I was doing too much in the beginning and had to slow down😕
I'm so sorry that happened. You are still an inspiration to others. Remember it's hair and God willing it will grow back and be stronger and longer than ever before.
9:41 You know its real when you have to step out of the shower!!! I'm sorry that this happened to you!!!
Headchampion ok this was me tryna figure out how to detangle them mini twist I had in for almost 2 weeks.
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IT was the GEL. "GEL" means to bond together. There is a difference between "styling gel" and "moisturizing gel". Just gotta be more careful and READ. But remember "everything happens for a reason". Keep up the good work❤
I can feel the disappointment and hurt in your voice!! We all have setbacks dear! I was in a stressful program in college, ended up on medication, and I dropped out anyway. With that being said, my hair came right out too, once I got off the meds. I had to cut 7 inches off the frontal portion of my crown, and I was devastated!!! But, I left the back long. That was two years ago, and my hair is thriving! The back portion is to my elbows, but the front is layered to catch up with the back. In conclusion, don't start over. Just cut off what needs to go and move on with your routine. Your hair will grow back. Be strong girl, I am sorry this happened to you!!!
So sorry that happened to you. Seemed it has been a combination of both product. Shea Moisture actually doesn't work on my hair (Except Black Castor Oil Shampoo). Coconut Oil did a similar thing to my hair a few years ago. I still remember my hair becoming hard then in the shower feeling someTHINGS going doing my body. I did a semi-big chop and now I am back to 2013 length. Giving you hugs!!
Jeanica2Natural yea..their shampoos can be very stripping. The only one that works for is the jbco shampoo and conditioner
It's ok you still have plenty of hair left
Big hugs Sis!!!!! I can already see you're gonna have one hell of a comeback! Keep your head up!
RUclips did not break your hair! The gel did not break your hair! The Shea moisture product did not break your hair! You washed your hair with shampoo without detangleling😞 you should know better.
BabeEli3 what? Lmao shes been natural & grew her hair long for the ladt 7 years. I think she knows how to detangle her hair before washing
I am milan but she didn't. She usually pre-poo but she didn't because she wanted try new SM it's her own damn fault. She also finger detangled before adding gels so all that unshedded hair locked after it was wet
pandabearboo I was gonna say every video I have seen she finger detangles and I sure have learned my lesson from taking braids out and this happening
You go somewhere fool! I didn't say anything bad about her, but im not one of those subbies thats just gonna keep quiet when I think she broke her own hair. Mind you I didnt unsubscribe because I still want to watch her and not to bash her. But it is what it is.
BabeEli3 thank you. Cause you should never shampoo your hair before detangling. This is coming for a license cosmetologist
Sorry to read that my dear! I understand your feelings. The advantage of this experience is that you already know the techniques to have healthy hair. We appreciate all the effort you have put to share your hair tips. I learned a lot!
You are blessed. The very fact you have the strength and courage to come on video and share that experience indicates it. You already know what to do. You have been learning and self training for at least six years. And you have excelled! You even did a vid helping your mom with a similar situation and excelled. (Honor the father and mother that it may be well with you). You could probably could (and do) grow hair in your sleep. By that I mean the techniques you use and skills you practice are second nature. Your hair has been so well cared for it will more than likely quickly rebound and not take as long to regrew length and be healthy. Also for others in cases of emergency sometimes contacting the product company and obtaining their advice may prove helpful. You are blessed. Here you GROW again.😂
I had to cut 4inches in December because RUclipsrs influenced me to use a denman brush on my very fine natural hair. I feel you!
Nicole Oliver precisely. Instead of blindly listening to RUclips, use it as a guide and listen to what your hair wants.
Dr. Simple Beauty 300 Are you sure you weren't pulling & racking to hard??? With any styling tool you need to be gentle & careful(heck even with a comb).. The brush is used for blowouts & to detangled but gentle while hair is wet.
Michelle Gomez yes and working from bottom to top. I only use it when I condition hair once a week
When it comes to natural hair, you have to research EVERYTHING You have to modify a Denman brush by taking every other row out At least two rows Naptural85 have a video on this
That wasn't the issue. I have 3b/c hair (like Sunkiss Alba). It was the darn RUBBER BASE that was tearing up my fine hair. Modified brushes are for thick/course hair. But thank you for your trying to help :)
The eco styler most likely activated as soon as you wet it.. once you wet your hair, each strand automatically infused with each other. That's the only thing that makes sense. I hope this helped. Your hair is beautiful with the two side buns and your hoops, gonna try this cute look. And even when you took it down to show us, your hair still looks healthy. You should do a protein treatment and a deep conditioning. 😍
I was gonna go to sleep in a wet eco styler saturated bun tonight but after watching this I decided to wash and condition it. Currently have bantu knots in. 😩😩
gigglyfitzgirl I was planning to try some new products now I am scared 😱
Eco styler gel is very drying. You can use it, but through trial and error I have learned that you have to layer your hair with moisturuzer, oil or butter first before using any gel for that matter. It doesn't have a hold of 10 for no reason. Plus, you have to make sure your hair is fully detangled before using gel. It will lock up your hair with the shed hair.
gigglyfitzgirl ecostyler gave me a bald spot. I don't know why 4c naturals still use that shitty ass gel.
I solved my matting dreadlock tangle issue a long time ago by using greese and crisco. lubrication from both conditioning oils like petroleum and lanolin and thick vegetable oils like crisco.
I use it to detangle and seal after my moisturize (LCGO: liquid, leave in condition, grease, oil). I also use the lorecia fetherwood brush to help detangle once I've finger detangle first and saturated the gease an oil in my hair. dephne madyara is a ytbr with bleached 4c hair the same length as this woman's used to be and she uses grease. lioness Davis use grease as well. grease imo is best for 4c naturals with fine hair strands. without it, I seriously do not think it is possible for fine stranded 4c naturals to permanently retain serious length. (unless they slather their hair with animal fat.) grease like blue magic, or any oil based conditioner that mixes petroleum/mineral oil and lanolin(boiled sheep sebum) lubricates the hair and prevents the kind of friction that causes both matting and breakage, allowing u to retain length especially when used as a part of LCGO. this is just my opinion though.
Wabbu Babbu
Do you use any gels then?
Michelle Nesbith-Sykes
The issue is that ecostyler put on hair with product on it may start turning white sometimes.... Idek anymore
I specialize in pain free detangling.
You do not detangle by combing.
You cannot detangle a mat by combing downward or using a brush.
Take warm Babassu oil and apply to your hair.
Leave it on with a cap for 24 hours.
If no babassu use olive oil.
After it has been left on.
Slowly take the back section (about 1 x 1 square inch)
Take the hair, start at the end and gentle spead the hair sideways.
SIDEWAYS..JUST THE TIPS.
Spread until really thin (see through)
After it is see through, gently comb down.
Move up another inch and do the same. Continue slowly up the section spreading side ways, then combing down.
I wish I was near you. I would detangle your hair for free.
When thoroughly detangled, use ACV on scalp and leave on for 30 min with cap. Then wash hair as usual.
The amount of hair lost is less than 100 strands.
Take your time.
I feel your pain. I know you will find a way to get through this setback. Try to reframe it as a challenge to get your hair back to being healthy and even better than you had it before. Sending you a big hug.
Sorry for your set back. Praying you find the strength to push forward. Unfortunately I know what you're going through. Last year my hair broke off terribly. I'm still trying to recover. Stay strong.
So sorry to hear that, youtube is all about pushing products on consumers. You know what works for your hair, just stick to that. Having kinky hair we must learn what works for us and leave the trendy products alone, it's too much. Keeping it simple works best. Lady your bless in spite of the setback, let's continue to share and learn...stay blessed
we all could tell u how sorry we are but we know and understand how devastating it truly is but remember how god bless u with the knowledge to nurture your hair please don't give up go back to your routine god will bless u again. with the gorgeous u had he will bless you with Greatnes And more more luxurious hair in your head believe in that have faith
Yes Sweetheart you can stop wondering, it was the gel. The very same thing happened to me, tho I was rocking some braids. I used gel a few times to slick down my edges and around the back. I had individuals too. Girl by the time I took my braids down I had developed dreadlocks starting from the back growing upward. My hair was only about 18 1/2 inches long when I had the braids put in. Needless to say I had to cut all that off and start all over again.
So yes Ma-luv that's what has happened to you but you are blessed. You didn't have to cut all your strength off. Your hair is beautiful. Thank you for sharing your story and your time with us. Keep your head up and be inspired Ladybug. You are Beautiful.
Sincerely, DT
I am so sorry this happened to you. I've had a devastating set back as well and I cried for 3 days, so I know how you feel. You'll bounce back chica.
It may have been the clarifying shampoo combined with the gel. Gel naturally is drying for hair, but to wash with clarifying shampoo after your hair has been molded into a twist style for some days is the perfect setting for that type of tangling. I’m so sorry this happened to you. Pick up your head, don’t give up on your hair; it’s a part of you. There’s no casting it aside, love it in its condition and carry on taking care of it.
I usually don't comment on videos. But, I had to thank you for sharing your hair story and being honest with your viewers. Everything happens for a reason, maybe it's the Lord way of changing your focus away from hair. Nonetheless, you are still my hair inspiration. And, although it takes time and patience I know if hair is still your main focus after this unfortunate event, you will get back to where you were in time. Much love and keep your head up!
Did you even watch her video!??
Because she's said 6 years NATURAL!!!
Maria Small, hi, I don't know if it's me you are commenting to or not, but if it's me yes I watched the video. And, there was nothing I said that was negative. I don't know how old you are, but sometimes it takes an unfortunate or tragic event in someone life to open up their eyes and realize life is more than "this or that ". Please think about that before you start commenting back to me.
FYI: This is one of the reason why I don't like commenting on RUclips videos. Too many people can't just read a comment without taking it too personal.
Nicola S. That's not of you to say! Just because she has a youtube channel for natural hair doesn't mean that's her only focus.
I think it is a very harsh lesson in respecting the beauty of 4C.
I hope the Lord has better things to do with his time than send messages to women who like to share how they take care of their hair.
I really feel your pain, I would be absolutely devastated and I'm so sorry you had to go through that, stay strong and you'll get through it ❤️
Damn. The price we pay for beauty. Hang in there
carmeld45 101 ik, our afro hair is so complicated and needy. I wish it wasn't
Gods speed love.
I've had so many hair setbacks , that I can't even count.
I defiantly stopped listening to RUclips for hair recipes etc.
I follow what my stylist recommends and what I like and leave it at that..
With dedication and consistency your hair will come back full circle.
I do know this, Shea moisture ruined my hair years ago, my hair was flourishing etc and my stylist had to cut a bob. I haven't touched it since..
I am so sorry. I know this is devastating. I still think your hair is GORGEOUS! I know with the practices you implement, your hair will bounce back faster than you think.
Let me start by saying how truly sorry I am for your set back. I just celebrated 7 years natural also and God must have allowed your video to come up in my feed because I just went from bra strap length to neck length in a matter of 3 weeks because of a cornbraid style I just took down on Friday night (1/12/18). My hair was literally locked like I had dreads. I could not undo the knots with my fingers or even with a small safety pin. I had to cut each and every knot out of my head. I am holding the tears back bc I have never worn a wig before now, Sunday (1/14/18). My stylist rushed over to see the damage. She cut as much as she could but refused to shave my head. It is only God! I’ve decided to see this as a lesson learned and continue on my journey to healthy hair. Braids may not be for me. It’s been 7 years since I had crown braids with extensions. Thank you for sharing. I will continue to watch u recover as I recover. Maybe I can gain some tips for u as well. Blessings.
It sounds more like the shea butter (in the shea moisture products) or the thick butters you used locked in the hair.
This has happened to me, if your hair has clumped or tangled use apple cider vinegar diluted with water to detangle.
Using this method will led to minimal loss with cutting off clumping and tangles.
It’s the combination of the products and trying to use a clarifying shampoo on tangled hair is what caused this.
Washing it with clarifying shampoo went ahead and locked your hair right on up.
With all due respect, I don't understand why it's RUclips's fault that YOU decided to use Ecostyle on your hair. I watch tons of RUclips hair tutorials from women who use all sorts of products on their hair and just because the products work for others doesn't mean they will work for me. If I do decide to use something that I saw on RUclips outside of my normal routine and it so happens not to work out for me guess whose fault it is? Mine! I myself love Ecostyle. I buy it by the buckets full. However, on the other hand, if I do protective styles, as many women swear by, my scalp will be a dry, itchy mess and my hair becomes brittle. I found that out the hard way but I don't blame the proponents of protective styling for any set backs I experienced for trying it. I understand you are heartbroken because growing out our type of hair can be quite a journey but we have to be careful and remember that everything ain't for everybody. Life is full of lessons, and your hair will grow back longer and stronger because of that😉
Cheri H. I don’t understand why this comment isn’t higher up. It’s the truth. As sad as it is I’m confused as to how it’s RUclips’s fault. I wish her all the best in growing out her hair going forward.
Seems like she was saying her following what she saw on RUclips videos is why and trying to do a video tutorial for RUclips
I think a little compassion may be in order. She wasn't necessarily blaming the RUclips. She was just saying that if she weren't shooting a video on RUclips, she would not have gone outside of her normal routine which led to this tragic event.
Cheri H. Hunni!!!! hunni!!! YES!!!! Thank you and she kept using the product.. A lot of ppl do not know how to use Eco or gel period. I love Eco and I agree with everything you said....
Nah Thank you.
Look at that courage! “You survived something that must of felt like it would kill you...now straighten your crown and move forward like the Queen you are”! Thank you for helping us keep our crown’s straight by sharing!
When we try a different product only time will tell how our hair responded. This is a good time to show how you repair your hair. I get to see your good days and bad days. Thanks so much for sharing this video because I appreciate your realness. It's gon be ok.
I understand how you feel my sister. It’s very obvious that you take pride in your hair. It’s very heartbreaking when you put time, effort and so much tender loving care into your hair then something takes it away. I’m so sorry this happened to your hair. I’m sure you will love and nurture your hair back to good health again, you have some great supporters and subscribers that will join you on this journey. You are still beautiful, this setback won’t last forever. Take care and be blessed
I could definitely understand how it feels.. i've had my share of setbacks! Keep your head up, i know it's hard but it will recover, it might take some time but keep your head up!
I am so sorry for your loss. I know how devastating this can be. I feel your pain. Thank you for sharing, educating, inspiring women all over the world. You are beautiful inside and out.
Soo sad ! My hair is quite similar to yours, not the length,but the texture and eco styler gel did to mine,exactly the same thing it did to yours, 3 years ago, praise god my hair was shorter .lot of kisses and take care 😘
kinkyhairwood "Sorry for my english". I just want to tell you and every body to be carrefoul with "shea moisture"
the compagnie shea moisture was sell to one who don't like or respect afro hair : "l'oréal" before and "dove" now.
And ecostyler composition is not clean; but he do a good job. Because of the composition of the gel; the mix with another bed product can become also dangerous.
Eco styler gel is terrible
Which gel do you use now?
hi! well, My hair can't stand gels, so I don't use them anymore.
I feel your pain. 4 yrs ago I had a major set back when I got Senegalese twist. I believe this set back will be a major come back for you. People admire Long and healthy hair but sometimes they need to know how to repair hair that’s thin brittle and damage. As your follower I’m excited to see this hair repair journey that you’ll take and I sure your channel will soar because people need the help you will give them in future videos to repair your hair.
It's ok, you have an advantage on your healthy hair habits. Pray and take your time!!!😙😙😙 I appreciate all your videos don't let that discourage you curl sista 😉!!! Love you😇😇😇!
That's because gel is just like glue! It's horrible on any hair especially natural 4c hair.
I'm so sorry this happened to your hair. That's heartbreaking. Maybe a healing time with frequent castor oil deep treatments, low manipulation, protective styling and let time sort out the tangles and breakage? I'm old enough to be able to say that some things happen for a reason, though we may never know why, but your healing time back to strong hair may open a new avenue of videos for you...I'm sure there are others out there who have experienced this too and need your learning curve on how to get back to good. I wish you all success back to healthy hair.
I only use Eco Style gel to lay down my edges but I wouldn't use it on my strands.
Aquarelle 1978 I agree. I tried it once on my hair and my daughters and it caked our hair up terribly!!
Aquarelle 1978 exactly, gel is for laying down hair to be set, not for manipulating and twisting
Aquarelle 1978 agree never known anyone to use for twist. Thats a number one no no due to dryness of it
Me too!! Only for edges never in my hair! Plus I always do the loc method even on my edges before putting that dried up gel in my hair 😉😌