What I'm meaning is if they are going to ship without the same or better hardware in the phone. The hardware may have been left out of the prototype version for a reason, but that may not reflect the final product, which may well have it in it. The video looks like the N96 is doing it through software rendering, rather than any sort of hardware rendering. I'd say there is empahsis on it. There is meant to be an N-Gage application in th final product.
When was that particular phone produced? If its a pre-release, how close to a final product can it be considered? Given that there is a strong emphasis on gaming with the N96, I can't imagine they'd leave out hardware acceleration on the final product?
hey whatleydude. thanks for posting that video. any chances you can get more up? I was recently considering getting an n96 when it comes out. i am currently on N95-1 with a newer battery from n95 8gb. The old battery was a nightmare . the new one is actually works very well with the n95. Do you know if the n96 has the old one ? how the battery life is ? and if its possible to use the new battery? (like on the old n95).. from more and more things i read its basically a n95-3 +16gb-3d+tv :(
That's because of the processor. N95 features an ARM11 dual processor at 333MHz. The N96 instead features an ARM9 running at 268MHz. The reason because N96 goes backwards is just for lowering costs of manufacturing. The best performance in gaming, is on the N93. You can check out that if you google-it.
@simonvillarrubia why would nokia screw with it customers by using an inferior chip. also where can i find more info abt the missing graphics chip in the n96 (its not in the nokia specs)? seems like the n95-8gb is a better phone than the n96
Hi, there is a firmware update for the n96... I've not played any game till today (after the update) and I can tell you that there is no lack of quality on the graphics as I saw on this video... it runs very well.
Well, I still waiting for N96, even I know it's STn8816(8815P14?) doesn't have 3D chip. It's not a successor, but a media-specialized sister. I consider with that, but obviously all other ones don't think so......:-(
there is a trick to turn the 3 day demo into unlimited demo which does the same as the one you have to pay for .. cant remember quite how to do it . but i think you need to set the date into the future by a few years when activating the demo . then put it back to normal
Ahh, so it appears that they've gone for a different hardware maker for the graphics in this one, according to the blog. I guess like they say, Global Race probably doesn't take advantage of that, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with later game releases. But I do have to agree, its worth keeping an N95 8GB if you've already got one. Theres not enough in the N96 to warrant an 'upgrade'.
The 95 compared with a n96 CLONE perhaps yeah. The real n96 isn't really released yet. I'm waiting for it now, and I'm sure that it has a graphics chipset
That's right, Scorpion. HERE ARE THE N95 (FIRST VERSION) SPECS: CPU: Dual CPU CPU Type: ARM 11 CPU Clock Rate: 332 MHz 3D Graphics HW Accelerator - SDRAM Memory: 64 MB (this amount of RAM is packed just in this first version; other versions of the N95 have 128MB)
AND THESE ARE N96's: Nokia N96: CPU: Dual CPU CPU Type: ARM 9 CPU Clock Rate: 264 MHz - SDRAM Memory: 128 MB STRANGE BUT TRUE N96 has not 3D Hardware Acceleration support. You can check this info on Wikipedia. So long.
Probably there is one problem with N96 - maybe there are a lot of trash (temporary files for example) which can slow down the progress. I had the same problem with my N95 8Gb. So, the only way to fix this is to format your memory card. It is impossible that the newer N96 worst that previous N95 8Gb
hmm i think i found the next phone i am going to get. my phone atm is the n95-1. i have found a phone called the samsung i8510 innov8 it has 8mp camera, 16gb memory, 1200mah battery, mini mouse pad, slighlty slimmer then n96 , lacks tv tuner , and is slightly longer .. what do you think about that phone whatleydude .. the only thing i am concerned with is taht samsung might have bad support .. e.g firmware updates and will leave users in the cold
again with the gaming argument?? FYI I have a PS2 and a PSP but mainly I play on my PC , but when it comes to 3d graphics acceleration -which is very helpful with new GUIs- you can't deny its usefulness. The iPhone and the Palm Pre are good examples.
And the N96 is supposed to compete with the iPhone how exactly? Seems that the original N95 classic (or perhaps the N82) is still the best Nokia out there.
which part of vodafone you work for mate do your research more i just bought a n96 it has Dual CPU CPU Type: ARM 9 CPU Clock Rate: 264 MHz can you expain that all the ngage platform has the 3d chip but the phones does not make full use of the as because, A device with a 3D chip is easier to program 3D games for than the same device without it. It's worth emphasising though that 3D chips don't help at all with 2D games.
n95 ftw :) btw, it also has those multimedia keys so you can play on landscape and controls are as easy as playing on n-gage . i dont know if n96 has those keys anyway ;p GOGO N95 8gb!!!
I said that I don't know where and did you get this phone!? And the other phone is Nokia N95 not Nokia N95 as you said and is the name of the video! But nevermind! You are a lucky guy!
the n95 8gb runs better because its old and it has had its bugs removed because it is the updated version of the n95 the n96 will be a bit slower because it is new and will need an update to speed it up
man this really sucks. no 3d chip and old battery :( .. _I know i didnt even use the chip that much on my N95 for games. Only two or three apps used it.. but still i was so excited when i found out about it .. its such a standard must have feature ... like i played the new snake subsonic .... and it runs so slow because it doesnt use the 3d chip :( ... man i dont think i will get the phone now .. probably n82 or n95 8gb
Question...Who is so poor that he has to game on his cellphone? I'd rather drain my battery by watching TV :P I have the N95 atm but the N96 will come in a month or 2. Can't wait :)
I have to make a decision to chose a N95 or N96.. * I want the best camera * Best GPS * Best Graphics/Menu * Best Quality Music * Games or not nessesary Wich one shall i take? Anybody knows?
Oh??So U wanna compare N95 with N96,so I tell U,I have both N96 nd N95,But I m still comfortable with N96,Bcz its more convinient nd Easy phone,N95 is also too good but not more than N96!!!Understood???
I can confirm Whatley's claim- there's no hardware acceleration. I was with him at MWC where I was told by the N96 Product Manager that there is no- will be no- graphics chip in the N96. This might not be the final result of gaming though- it is pre-release software, improvements can still be made... it does look pretty bad though. Thanks for the video, James.
omfg stop all arguing ! , N95 8gb has Dual ARM 11 ! and PowerVr Hw accelerator , n96 hasnt got this accelerator , and its only arm 9 class , its much slower then n95 8gb , in jbenchmark N96 is 3 times slower then N95 8gb , AND THATS THAT ! stop arguing !
3D chip is NOT a must have (lots of Symbian games don't require a 3D chip /// Even n96 don't have one, so it would be better becouse would make the phone cheaper )
the n96 is crap: N96: - Dual ARM 9 264 MHz CPU -Doesn't have hardware for 3d acceleration. (is only software) VS. N95 8Gb: - Dual ARM 11 332 MHz CPU (faster than n96) - 3D Graphics Accelerator chip (hardware) thats all... N95 8gb rulezzz!!
i used both nokia n95 & n96 but n95 with 2gb card is much faster thn n96 and nothing new in n96, same features just a sensor for auto rotate nothin else just a waste of time
STOP ALL arguingi have an N95 8gb,and a N96 , both phones last fw , and both are hack (for those who dont know what that mean google it) So first of all N95 8gb is Way better then N96 , its 3 Times faster then N96 , this is proved by Jbenchmark test : N96 scored :365 N95 scored :1059 So what more ? , do a test , download jbenchmark on both phones , and you will all se theat the N95 8gb performs waay better then n96 N96 uses old arhitecture ARM 9 (nokia 6600 used arm9 in 2003) ROLI-oradea
why is this on my feed suddenly 14 years later
What I'm meaning is if they are going to ship without the same or better hardware in the phone.
The hardware may have been left out of the prototype version for a reason, but that may not reflect the final product, which may well have it in it.
The video looks like the N96 is doing it through software rendering, rather than any sort of hardware rendering.
I'd say there is empahsis on it. There is meant to be an N-Gage application in th final product.
The E90 have a 3D accelerator! All phones that I've listed have a OMAP2420 and this is the 3D accelerator.
When was that particular phone produced? If its a pre-release, how close to a final product can it be considered?
Given that there is a strong emphasis on gaming with the N96, I can't imagine they'd leave out hardware acceleration on the final product?
hey whatleydude.
thanks for posting that video. any chances you can get more up?
I was recently considering getting an n96 when it comes out.
i am currently on N95-1 with a newer battery from n95 8gb. The old battery was a nightmare . the new one is actually works very well with the n95. Do you know if the n96 has the old one ? how the battery life is ? and if its possible to use the new battery? (like on the old n95).. from more and more things i read its basically a n95-3 +16gb-3d+tv :(
That's because of the processor. N95 features an ARM11 dual processor at 333MHz. The N96 instead features an ARM9 running at 268MHz. The reason because N96 goes backwards is just for lowering costs of manufacturing.
The best performance in gaming, is on the N93.
You can check out that if you google-it.
@simonvillarrubia why would nokia screw with it customers by using an inferior chip. also where can i find more info abt the missing graphics chip in the n96 (its not in the nokia specs)? seems like the n95-8gb is a better phone than the n96
How runs the Game "System Rush" on the N96 witht 265MB RAM ?????
@ n95 works fantastic ! ^^
Gruss aus CH-Zürich! :-P
Where did you get from the N96?
And this is Nokia N95 8GB not only the N95 but nvm!
Hi, there is a firmware update for the n96... I've not played any game till today (after the update) and I can tell you that there is no lack of quality on the graphics as I saw on this video... it runs very well.
Nokia said they are putting a more powerfulgrafix card in it on the final release(America)
i waiting for the next few version to come out before i change my n95. Like i will wait until they come out n98-n100
k thanks for info! i see alot of sweet apps for n95 on youtube but where do i get them? know any sites with good real apps for n95? that are free lo
He's right!
So, why he gets minus? Only the N82/93/95 and also the E90 have a 3D accelerator.
Well, I still waiting for N96, even I know it's STn8816(8815P14?) doesn't have 3D chip. It's not a successor, but a media-specialized sister. I consider with that, but obviously all other ones don't think so......:-(
there is a trick to turn the 3 day demo into unlimited demo which does the same as the one you have to pay for .. cant remember quite how to do it . but i think you need to set the date into the future by a few years when activating the demo . then put it back to normal
Ahh, so it appears that they've gone for a different hardware maker for the graphics in this one, according to the blog.
I guess like they say, Global Race probably doesn't take advantage of that, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with later game releases.
But I do have to agree, its worth keeping an N95 8GB if you've already got one. Theres not enough in the N96 to warrant an 'upgrade'.
The 95 compared with a n96 CLONE perhaps yeah.
The real n96 isn't really released yet.
I'm waiting for it now, and I'm sure that it has a graphics chipset
so before i play the demo i turn the date up a few yuears?
where did u get the n96 from???????
so do u stlil no if n96 has the 3d chip and if n95 8gb will get update on maps
That's right, Scorpion.
HERE ARE THE N95 (FIRST VERSION) SPECS:
CPU:
Dual CPU
CPU Type: ARM 11
CPU Clock Rate: 332 MHz
3D Graphics HW Accelerator
-
SDRAM Memory: 64 MB (this amount of RAM is packed just in this first version; other versions of the N95 have 128MB)
AND THESE ARE N96's:
Nokia N96:
CPU:
Dual CPU
CPU Type: ARM 9
CPU Clock Rate: 264 MHz
-
SDRAM Memory: 128 MB
STRANGE BUT TRUE
N96 has not 3D Hardware Acceleration support.
You can check this info on Wikipedia.
So long.
Probably there is one problem with N96 - maybe there are a lot of trash (temporary files for example) which can slow down the progress. I had the same problem with my N95 8Gb. So, the only way to fix this is to format your memory card. It is impossible that the newer N96 worst that previous N95 8Gb
but it was the truth
@einffg this video gives us the idea that , n95 is better , then why do you say that n96 rulez ?
hmm i think i found the next phone i am going to get. my phone atm is the n95-1.
i have found a phone called the samsung i8510 innov8
it has 8mp camera, 16gb memory, 1200mah battery, mini mouse pad, slighlty slimmer then n96 , lacks tv tuner , and is slightly longer .. what do you think about that phone whatleydude .. the only thing i am concerned with is taht samsung might have bad support .. e.g firmware updates and will leave users in the cold
again with the gaming argument?? FYI I have a PS2 and a PSP but mainly I play on my PC , but when it comes to 3d graphics acceleration -which is very helpful with new GUIs- you can't deny its usefulness. The iPhone and the Palm Pre are good examples.
@1234minhaj n96 is lagging bcuz its got slow 220 mhz processor whereas N95 8gb has a 380 mhz processor
so you say that the n96 gets slow with the new updates?
does nokia n95 8gb have card slot(memory card) or not?
what game is this!!!??? i want it xD!
And the N96 is supposed to compete with the iPhone how exactly?
Seems that the original N95 classic (or perhaps the N82) is still the best Nokia out there.
this game has two versions. one that is 3d, the other is just a normal one. if u want n96 to run this game smoothly, gotta get the normal version.
Global Race isn't an N-Gage game. And if it was fake it wouldn't have the Symbian OS which is needed to install Global Race.
N95 rullz!
which part of vodafone you work for mate do your research more i just bought a n96 it has Dual CPU
CPU Type: ARM 9
CPU Clock Rate: 264 MHz
can you expain that all the ngage platform has the 3d chip but the phones does not make full use of the as because, A device with a 3D chip is easier to program 3D games for than the same device without it. It's worth emphasising though that 3D chips don't help at all with 2D games.
mmmm, thanks by the video! now i choose the n95 8gb!
n95 ftw :) btw, it also has those multimedia keys so you can play on landscape and controls are as easy as playing on n-gage . i dont know if n96 has those keys anyway ;p GOGO N95 8gb!!!
I like my N95 8gb anyway, for some reason the N96 just doesn't appeal to me one bit.
I said that I don't know where and did you get this phone!?
And the other phone is Nokia N95 not Nokia N95 as you said and is the name of the video!
But nevermind!
You are a lucky guy!
from what i know the N96 doesn't have a 3D graphic accelerator -_-
the n95 8gb runs better because its old and it has had its bugs removed because it is the updated version of the n95 the n96 will be a bit slower because it is new and will need an update to speed it up
man this really sucks. no 3d chip and old battery :( .. _I know i didnt even use the chip that much on my N95 for games. Only two or three apps used it.. but still i was so excited when i found out about it .. its such a standard must have feature ... like i played the new snake subsonic .... and it runs so slow because it doesnt use the 3d chip :( ... man i dont think i will get the phone now .. probably n82 or n95 8gb
sooo my n95 8gb better then n96?? should i keep my n95 or ger tn96
Question...Who is so poor that he has to game on his cellphone?
I'd rather drain my battery by watching TV :P
I have the N95 atm but the N96 will come in a month or 2. Can't wait :)
I have to make a decision to chose a N95 or N96..
* I want the best camera
* Best GPS
* Best Graphics/Menu
* Best Quality Music
* Games or not nessesary
Wich one shall i take? Anybody knows?
Great thanks
N95 has 3D HW graphic accelerator tha the N96 lacks :)
Oh??So U wanna compare N95 with N96,so I tell U,I have both N96 nd N95,But I m still comfortable with N96,Bcz its more convinient nd Easy phone,N95 is also too good but not more than N96!!!Understood???
I can confirm Whatley's claim- there's no hardware acceleration. I was with him at MWC where I was told by the N96 Product Manager that there is no- will be no- graphics chip in the N96. This might not be the final result of gaming though- it is pre-release software, improvements can still be made... it does look pretty bad though.
Thanks for the video, James.
The n96 has a stn8815 nomadik processor. The processor is real good better than the n95!
N95(4ever) Has got Dual CPU ARM 11 332 Mhz
N96(I never her used) Has got Dual CPU ARM 9 264Mhz
Maybe It a difference.
on n96 fw version 30 the asphalt game is a lot smoother than the one in this video, but n95 still beats n96 coz of the n95's accelerator.
n95 can play n-gage games but n95?=
its because its a pre
release
hi mum ???????
dude N95 is the best phone out there in my opinion
the n96 have a 3d accelerator
N95 8g is the best phone nowadays!
its "rabishe" because the n95 is a cheaper phone, and its better ...
and both screens are the same 2.8 in
u can play global race
the n95 has a better cpu than the n96 because nokia wanted to increase the battery life of the phone
omfg stop all arguing ! , N95 8gb has Dual ARM 11 ! and PowerVr Hw accelerator , n96 hasnt got this accelerator , and its only arm 9 class , its much slower then n95 8gb , in jbenchmark N96 is 3 times slower then N95 8gb , AND THATS THAT ! stop arguing !
oh and it has symbian feaure pack 2 :D
thank u =D! (yes, it is)
nokia n95-1 has 64mb ram. others n95 and the n96 have 128mb ram.
@Neoxx09
no n97 is the worst of all... sorry but the n95, n95 8gb are the best nokia phones, with the n900 and n8
my N96 is very fast!! and i had n95 and i can't see any difference in gaming!!
3D chip is NOT a must have (lots of Symbian games don't require a 3D chip /// Even n96 don't have one, so it would be better becouse would make the phone cheaper )
cellphones has become like a person no1 is perfect
the n96 is crap:
N96:
- Dual ARM 9 264 MHz CPU
-Doesn't have hardware for 3d acceleration. (is only software)
VS.
N95 8Gb:
- Dual ARM 11 332 MHz CPU (faster than n96)
- 3D Graphics Accelerator chip (hardware)
thats all...
N95 8gb rulezzz!!
n95 also have auto rotate i think with v30 frimware..
Just say why?
look whos talking!!
looool
right :D
@petropouloss
nope
Nope, but the N95!
hey just accept the fact that your phone(95) is old
n95 8gb rulez
i have nokia n95 8gb
hi honey:D
yes!! Nokia N97 is the best!!!
n95 has 3D chip
if it was fake it would not even be able to install the game
Why?Why n96 is better?
this game don't use the 3D chip!!!!
because this game runs very great like your n95, on my nokia E63 an on nokia 5320 XM, i tested my self!!!!!!!!
LOL
i have n96 and its work like on n95 lol
hey!! The N96 sucks at games..!! can I have your N96 since it sucks that bad? ^_^
dude u have a fake because th nokia n96 does have a strong graphics chip i has everythin the nokia n95/n95 8gb has but a lot more
n96 is really fail, especially the battery...
i used both nokia n95 & n96
but n95 with 2gb card is much faster thn n96
and nothing new in n96, same features
just a sensor for auto rotate
nothin else
just a waste of time
STOP ALL arguingi have an N95 8gb,and a N96 , both phones last fw , and both are hack (for those who dont know what that mean google it)
So first of all N95 8gb is Way better then N96 , its 3 Times faster then N96 , this is proved by Jbenchmark test :
N96 scored :365
N95 scored :1059
So what more ? , do a test , download jbenchmark on both phones , and you will all se theat the N95 8gb performs waay better then n96
N96 uses old arhitecture ARM 9 (nokia 6600 used arm9 in 2003)
ROLI-oradea
lol @ N96
So 1 Scheiss Mann LOOL / are you 100% sure ?
Gruss aus CH-Zürich
ignore this i have a nokia n96 and its great better then n95!!!!!
???
What???
i seen a video that the n96 had a newer version of maps...butyeah maps is gay you have to pay to use nagivation :( lol