Hi! I love drainage type things, but I just wanted to ask about how much did your house cost, that house is the type of house that is my dream, in the outdoors with a creek & pond on property, I would just like to know how much that house costed around so when I can move out, I can get something like this, sorry if you don't like this question.
Just add some dye to the water at the diverter to find the inlet to the pond. I had to trace a spring out let on my off grid homestead. A friend had this powered water dye. I added @ 1 cup to the spring head and found the spring outlet @ 300 yards away. Much easier than bringing a 'expert' onsite to do the job.
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The overall arrangement wasn’t clear, but it’s possible that the inlet to the pond could be closer to the bottom than the top, so you wouldn’t see much evidence on the surface. (I can think of one reason to have the inlet near the bottom: inflowing water would stir up the sediment on the bottom, keeping the pond from silting up over time.)
That is pretty wild. Props to the neighbor for knowing about it and sharing info! Great job clearing that area and figuring some things out. Would like to see an update if you modify anything. 👍
@@SilverCymbal - This seems like something the previous owner should have told you about, or given you some sort of write-up to know about the system and how it works. As you learn more, no doubt you will document it and should you ever move, you can let the new owner know this important stuff. Very interesting find... clever use of resources by the folks who put this in!
@@samvalentine3206 I've long thought that houses should come with an owner's manual where you could compile stuff like this for the next owner. It might be an interesting app/website idea for someone to automate compiling it and printing it and/or producing a PDF. We bought a 65 year old house that has had many weird renovations over the years and its been a project to reverse engineer some of the changes that were made so we could understand them and make corrections.
yeah the home own was a bit of a D to not mention that, I always gave homeowners a maintenance list of stuff like this. The last house I bought the homeowner told me about the filter he installed in the septic tank, if it wasnt for him telling me that I would have hired a plumber to fix my system backing up
This is basically a mill pond without a mill. It used to be very common practice, because water flowing out of a body of water has a more consistent flow for turning a waterwheel than water flowing through a natural stream or channel. I'm used to seeing them with a manmade stream in to fill it and another manmade stream out, which is where the mill and waterwheel would be. The stream into the pond is the mill stream, while the channel out is the mill race. I can't say I've ever seen it done with buried pipes like this, but in Europe and the northeastern United States, a lot of small ponds that we assume today are "natural" actually originated as mill ponds. Look on a map and there's a good chance there's a "Mill Road" or some similarly named street nearby.
@@yliannamarie403 a mill pond/stream was used to turn a water wheel very slowly to turn a mill stone to grind grain into flour. It's not enough water to generate meaningful power.
@@yliannamarie403 Maybe a LITTLE power? I’m not much for physics but I think to generate electricity you need to spin a turbine pretty fast, so a gentle flow like this might not be adequate. I doubt this was ever an actual mill pond, it seems purely decorative-I’m just saying it’s the same concept in principle.
Also suggest checking out old satellite imagery of your property if you haven't already (Google Earth Pro is free and has a nice simple historical imagery feature) to see if there are any images showing the pond or perhaps even the construction of it. Maybe you will get some little hints about the location of pipes or how it was used in the past. Excited to hear an update sometime soon!
Might be a good idea to document the drain locations(In and Out) and keep it with your land deed. That way the next guy won't be left confused if there is no friendly neighbor. Also if you put in a leaf grate you might want to make it an inch or so down into the pit so, one it keeps people from falling in, two installing it on the pit instead of the pipe at the bottom will give you more area to clog before it backs up, three it also makes cleaning by hand possible, four if it is and inch or 2 down the whole thing will be clogged before it overflows. If you go this route I'd make a strong grate for supporting weight then put a smaller gapped grate circle on top of it so that you can just lift it out and clean it with a hose. (Maybe with a handle.)
Protip for grate owners: slap a pull line on your grate. Use either heavy 3/4" chain or quality braided steel cable for heavy grates. Either throw in a treated post or find a nearby tree. Think about how you're gonna pull it when the weather is nice, if you put in a post an eyebolt and come along works so good for just cracking a clogged grate to allow for drainage and then cleaning with minimal slip through.
In a previous life I worked as a buried utility locator. I worked for a company that contracted to the power company the phone company the cable tv company etc. we also located private utilities, water, sewer, and drain pipes like the one that goes to your pond. I noticed that there was a wire attached to that clean out that you showed us. That is a locate point. You should really consider having it located and marked out for your records. I’m not sure how much they charge these days.
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In hydraulic storm water design, the use of a clean out / breather has a few important features: (1) It helps you find the pipe location. This can’t be overstated. (2) As the name states, it is a point of clean out. We often use the access to jet and camera the pipe. The jetting is done with a high pressure hose to clean out debris and mud. If roots obstruct the drain, then a root cutter is used. Depending on the access, the pipe may have to be dug up. (3) This is also called a “breather.” The breather helps avoid hydraulic locks in the pipe. The breather helps the water to flow through the pipe more efficiently.
The guy that designed that pond is very smart. Self leveling and just about maintenance free. Clean everything every spring and you should be good. You should be able to put fish in that pond as well.
I would have loved to see the initial plan configuration of this design to how the installation process was achieved. What a kookie and clever design! 🐺🔧 Also, what a good neighbor to share that kind of information with you!
@@SilverCymbal I'm surprised it wasn't disclosed to you when they sold the house! If I had devised a setup like that, I would have been showing it off left and right to the new prospective owners. "Look at what I made! Gaze your eyes upon its glory!"
That's impressive. The conduit with the string running through it and now this.. I wonder what other surprises you might come across. For someone so sofisticated, I'd be willing to bet he has schematics. Perhaps near a furnace room or even that remote building. Keep your eyes open for priceless antiques stashed like a buried vehicle or collectable war time artifacts.
In the UK people are building ponds like yours, filling them with native plants and wildlife and using them for wild swimming. Guess this has not caught on in the states. Your very lucky. Enjoy
Hope you update this, I'm curious about it all. I wish I had some advice, but I do not. Obviously the 'system' is designed to try and get hillside water to go directly to the pond somehow. Maybe when all this went in some of the trees were small, or not there at all, but I agree, putting that much pipe in a woods would be tough.
A drain, and a pipe in the woods camouflaged in leaves dating back to the 2022's? Could this be the clue they've been waiting for. Could this be the mysterious box drain they've searched so hard to find?
Awesome content as always. You can get crystal clear water for viewing if you establish a push through on the levy to the creek below (assuming there’s a downhill portion to the pond levy..so you have constant water flow in and out. Then you can control the speed at which it flows to produce your hydro. Hope that makes sense
One of my favorite fishing holes from my youth was dredged and turned into a gravity pond as a swimming hole for the neighborhood. It's amazing to see what appears to be still water not developing algae. It was a head scratcher at first until it was explained to me how that was possible.
That’s a detention pond that slows the flow of storm water from entering the local streams too quickly. It’s helps to stop flooding and the release of contaminate from entering the local streams. I have one in my neighborhood as well.
There are pipes like that in a nature reserve they were dug by hand and the pipes allow drainage underneath pathways and lead out of the side of a steep cliff it was done in the late 1800s
It's like an in-ground ram pump. Cool. There are a ton of videos on Ram Pumps, I would suggest checking them out and seeing if they fit the mechanism you are experiencing. This is neat and I have to give a lot of credit to the previous owner.
Wow. I was proud of myself for discovering some drainage quirks on my new property but this is on a whole other level. Fascinating stuff. How lucky to find you own something so unique. And glad you didn’t find a dead [whatever you were gonna say] in that hole!
Your pond is beautiful. We had a pond like that in PA. Fed by a little creek. Had to keep the intake clear. It was much closer to the creek though. Our pond had an outlet pipe that also needed to be kept clear.
The trees weren't there when they installed the line. The forest is relatively young. The slope isn't the least bit extreme for a little excavator or even backhoe. As for the system itself, not sure what you need help with. As you said yourself, keep debris from plugging your supply line...
We have a pond on our property, about twice the size of yours, and it also has a drain, but the drain is only there to keep the pond from overflowing in case of heavy rains (we live in a hurricane zone) The drain is pretty much stopped up, and so during periods of super heavy rainfall, it does back up into the lower portions of our property, and sometimes takes several days or a week for the pond to return to it's normal banks. The drain in our pond is near the top level of our pond, and is designed to empty into a drainage ditch, which is only about 50 ft from the edge of the pond. If you look on the edge of your pond nearest to the direction of where you think the water may be flowing, you might find it, of course searching during times when your pond is at it's lowest. Our drain is covered by a metal grate that can be raised and lowered, but the pond has been there for so long that my husband thinks leaves and debris have partially clogged the drainage pipe. The dye in the water suggestion might work to help you find the drainage point. All of this aside, none of this has affected the wildlife in our pond. Our pond is teeming with fish and turtles, but as I already said, the drain is near the surface of the pond, so during dry periods, the pond only drains to a certain point, and does not continue to drain once it reaches the level of the drain.
You could have a covering made out of steel plate, or even wood mabey 4ft by 4ft and in the summer cover that hole you were post holing.Let the pond drain completely, and be able to.clean it up good.Then remove the covering and place a 4+4 screen in its place.I have a P.H.D. in post hole digging.Salute.
That's crazy! Try something like an Atruim grate. They work better than flat grates in high debris areas. You'll have to clean it regularly but at least it shouldn't flood anything important if left for a while.
It's a fresh water pond. These are all over the place up north in areas like Montana. Go get some big rocks and position them around the drain to keep it from clogging. You basically have free water for gardening and you can also hook up filtration for drinking water.
I'm no engineer but it seems to me that you could put a non-toxic dye in the water and follow it. I could be wrong but that certainly makes perfectly good sense to me.
There's no need to pitch the pipe. As long as it stays below the level of the source, the pipe could go down a mile, doesn't matter because water finds its level. In other words, even if the pipe goes below the level of the water in the pond, it will rise back up to come out the outlet in the pond
Same way as hydro power works, similar to a penstock/conduit from a pond/reservoir taking water to a lower level,but with no turbine involved, can easily run several miles.
We have a similar size pond on our property but it's a natural one I believe. The water level took a big hit this year as it was very dry in the UK. Luckily the rain water soakaways from our house and neighbours properties feed into it. These are actually mentioned on the deeds about keeping them clear. It has filled up pretty quickly with the rainfall we had in the winter and autumn. Sadly the lower level killed quite a few of our ghost carp when the weather went very cold really quickly. The level is nearly back to normal now thankfully. I believe many many years ago they used to use ours for irrigation as there is the remains of an area used for pumping all that's left is a few brick walls. Very glad you managed to sort yours out. Great video.
@Silver Cymbal Considering that you previously found another fake rock, i suspect one, if not all, of the rocks in your pond are fake too and possibly contribute to the water control system. As you have an active drain with unknown suction, i would not swim in there. I would get a fishing camera (with lights built into the cam) and poke around on either: 1. a small boat or kayak with you in it 2. A small remote controlled model boat or otherwise primitive float dragged with a cable by you across the pond 3. a long lever balanced on a frame from shore, dunking and pivoting the system by hand. 4. Dangle it from a drone if you have one with that weight capacity. The fishing cam is a good sysnergy as you can do spot for such a cam on your channel like the other stuff on your channel. The tunneling over distance sounds like a crazy project but they probably did a slant drill with a thin bore over the distance, and then built the pipe into it by screwing sections of pipe into it to build it. Like how they do modern water wells, but diagonal. BTW, you need to get a grate asap on the drain area downhill as it is a hazard for anybody to fall in.
Thank you, NH is a really nice place to live. You can get a lot of land here for much less money and with Starlink, the internet barrier that made living here difficult is gone.
There’s another channel here on RUclips called Apple Drain’s. I think they’re down in Florida. The guy is constantly posting new videos about everything drainage. I bet he would have some answers for you. For some reason unknown water sources creep me out😳😂
I sure wish he was up here! I need to have those drains done on my house. But apparently the laws are different from town to town so I can't do it the easy way. So I was forced to call a company and holy crap!, They wanted $12,000! And it's seriously pretty straight shot. I decided to definitely not do it for the time being.
Nice video! I think most healthy ponds happen when they have an inlet and an outlet. Getting the pipe thru the property is only slightly difficult with a tool called a “Ditch Witch.” It’s like a giant slow motion chain saw for the ground. Plus you only need a 2% pitch to get water moving. The thing I would do, is try to create a cover for wheee you were digging. That would slow the accumulation of leaves and debris. HTH.
I've come across what I call pseudo springs. They look like springs but are not connected to an aquifer. They occur near hills that have an imperviable rock layer. Snow gathers higher up, melts and runs down through the soil until it hit the imperviable layer. It then follows that all the way down to the bottom of the hill and then bubbles to the surface. It looks like a spring but only lasts a few months (until the snow is all melted and bubbles away).
Amazing! I have a pond that was supposedly fed by an underground spring. The water level had risen and lowered naturally with the seasons. I thought it was odd that "all of a sudden" the water is lowering and no longer rising. Who knows, maybe this sort of thing was more common than we thought... thank you for sharing. I will be searching the property for pipes and drain equipment!
The water flow from the capped white pipe you said was for clean out reminds me of the Ram Pump my father uses to fill his pond. Requires no power and could easily travel a couple thousand feet with the water flow you have.
When I worked at Wal-Mart a while back the Fake Pond in the back would drain like that. Turns out a hubcap from someone's car was blocking the pipes that ran water to and from the pond, once we removed it the pond went back to normal.
@@M.TTT. EPA regulations require that all construction activities greater than a certain size (half acre I think, could be wrong) have a stormwater retention pond be part of the construction. This is to create a buffer so that storms don't cause as much flooding.
That's an awesome system you've got, with a bit of regular maintenance your pond could be 10 times the size it is now. For help, businesses that work on septic systems also work on water supply or pond systems. Most of this you can do yourself once you know the entire system. If I were you, I'd be digging out a larger pond and eventually connecting the 2 together. You're sitting on a gold mine of a resource, don't waste it ... expand it!!!
There is channel of some city worker who just posts him working unclogging various drains. I think its called post10. He comes across very unique systems, and show how drains really work. He usually finds a clog off the side or somethere else to allow flow.
Ozzie Osborne would know about Crazy Drains. Oh, wait. That's "trains." Nevermind. Enjoyed the video, though! Can't wait to see how you do with rescuing the pond!
This seems just a variation on a classic detention pond or retention pond. Storm water is collected and run underground to a pond. There is a discharge somewhere to keep it from overflowing. The clean out at the top is handy given the amount of debris entering the pipe. Thanks for sharing.
Flashback - I recall seeing a Popular Mechanics (ai think) from the late 50’s or 60’s with a DIY farm pond project article. That may be a blueprint for this mystery.
I'd use a non toxic dye at the drain next to your driveway and see where it comes out. It should float to the surface after entering the pond so you'll have some idea where it's actually at. I'd also definitely cover that access with a screen of some kind too and check it every couple weeks in the fall just to make sure it's not too heavily covered.
Working at an auto parts store, I have to listen to a lot of old guys. Stories like this, where they're possible but sound rather unlikely, tend to be true. Maybe 60-70% of the time. Sometimes they're false, sometimes completely true, or anywhere in between. But it definitely averages out to be worth looking into. The real trick is to get them to leave without insulting them if the stories are boring or uncomfortable. But if he has some good stories, then you want to keep him as long as possible without getting in trouble.
There are several companies that make a scope that lets you look at the inside of the pipe with lengths included as well as some models including a second part that can detect the camera underground. I have seen both This Old House & Linus Tech Tips use one of those cameras with the location sensor. It is something plumbers use to figure out where pipes go when they are buried & no one actually knows where they actually go or how far down the pipe they have to dig if that is the only way to solve the problem.
Minus not having a grate that’s a well thought out and awesome pond! Beautiful land as well. Time to stock it! Bama Bass channel is an awesome series as well!
Honestly, I think that drain/vent "system" is going to need some type preventative leaf-blocker, over the entire thing (maybe a mock-up Outhouse or something) that gets installed at the end of September. Otherwise is going to be a ongoing task all of October and November to clean that out...people have better things to do that manual leaf clean outs on a weekly basis. Can't be too expensive since it's in the woods and trees can easily fall on it at any time.
Watching this reminded me of these ponds we have in the UK called Dew ponds (which are mostly fed by rain not dew). But are designed to keep the water cool to prevent evaporation, and stay that way even through droughts/mid summer and so dont dry up (in most cases). Normally they are built in places which dont retain surface water easily like Dorset to keep cattle watered. They think some of them could go back to the bronze age or further!
@silvercymbal here is a suggestion to make cleanout easier and keep your inlet from plugging. I have a civil engineering degree and spent a lot of time in my adult life messing with water flowing over and underground. On your inlet pipe, put a 90 degree T and add about 18" of pipe pointed straight up. Then put your leaf screen on top of that pipe. The bottom part of the T should have a cap that you can easily remove or even a valve controlling water into it. When you do not have water flowing and you want to drain any leftover water out of the pool by the inlet pipe, open then bottom leg of the T for full drain and inlet cleanout.
So growing up, I remember a show that during one episode flushed a gold ball down the drain and followed it through the sewer system. Could try dropping a small ping pong ball and see how long it takes to get to the pond
You've got all of us hooked with this episode of mystery. Looking forward to your next submission about your pond. Very interesting... Sorry, wish I had advice for you.
I did some mapping work in the Appalachian mountains where I'm from, and I'de find random cisterns in the middle of nowhere carrying water to God knows where ALL the time. Sometimes it'd just be a bucket with a bulkhead and 500 feet of garden hoses going down the mountain to someone's house. There's a lot of weird random things people do to creeks in what you would think is undeveloped land.
This is my dream to live somewhere like you do. There is a guy from the USA (sorry I can't remember where) on RUclips. He is older and has spent his life creating an eco system of about 6 or 7 pond like this from one stream so that his land was fertile enough to provide. He explained how it all worke and how to do it. I'll have a look and post the title for you. I hope this helps. I look forward to your next instalment
Once had a 3 acre pond/lake dug on our property. Noticed the culvert on our road drained water from a “wet spring”, a spring that runs during much, but not all times of the year, attached 4” drain tile to bottoms of culvert to initially fill up our “plake”. Works great and required very little drop in elevation…inches maybe over a few hundred feet. I didn’t use a transit level but would be a simple task to run the pipe in your case. Be sure to keep your overflow on the pond clear! You don’t want a breach! Also Muskrats will destroy your narrow dam, keep them out. Thanks for sharing!
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Hi! I love drainage type things, but I just wanted to ask about how much did your house cost, that house is the type of house that is my dream, in the outdoors with a creek & pond on property, I would just like to know how much that house costed around so when I can move out, I can get something like this, sorry if you don't like this question.
If you figure out this ponds secrets, let me know! I want one!
Just add some dye to the water at the diverter to find the inlet to the pond. I had to trace a spring out let on my off grid homestead. A friend had this powered water dye. I added @ 1 cup to the spring head and found the spring outlet @ 300 yards away. Much easier than bringing a 'expert' onsite to do the job.
Very cool!
Ask post10....what he doesn't know about water,drainage ponds&such,ain't worth knowing...
You could use a tracer dye to see where the water enters the pond and where it exists.
That is a good idea. I am thinking the inlet to the pond must be very wide or something since I can't see the flow.
@@SilverCymbal The Tracer dye will certainly help even if the inlet is wide. This will make a good video also 😀
@@vb3361 Yes! Yes! 🙌 - Tracer dye! Yes - this is it! The dye and the video and share with us - this makes best video ever - Yes! 🎉
I sit and wait!
Lol. Love this idea.
The overall arrangement wasn’t clear, but it’s possible that the inlet to the pond could be closer to the bottom than the top, so you wouldn’t see much evidence on the surface. (I can think of one reason to have the inlet near the bottom: inflowing water would stir up the sediment on the bottom, keeping the pond from silting up over time.)
Red clay would work as well
That is pretty wild. Props to the neighbor for knowing about it and sharing info! Great job clearing that area and figuring some things out. Would like to see an update if you modify anything. 👍
Much appreciated, yes I am thrilled that he knew so much. There is no way I would have figured this out. I can't imagine hiring someone to do this.
@@SilverCymbal - This seems like something the previous owner should have told you about, or given you some sort of write-up to know about the system and how it works. As you learn more, no doubt you will document it and should you ever move, you can let the new owner know this important stuff. Very interesting find... clever use of resources by the folks who put this in!
Please keep us updated.
@@samvalentine3206 I've long thought that houses should come with an owner's manual where you could compile stuff like this for the next owner. It might be an interesting app/website idea for someone to automate compiling it and printing it and/or producing a PDF. We bought a 65 year old house that has had many weird renovations over the years and its been a project to reverse engineer some of the changes that were made so we could understand them and make corrections.
yeah the home own was a bit of a D to not mention that, I always gave homeowners a maintenance list of stuff like this. The last house I bought the homeowner told me about the filter he installed in the septic tank, if it wasnt for him telling me that I would have hired a plumber to fix my system backing up
This is basically a mill pond without a mill. It used to be very common practice, because water flowing out of a body of water has a more consistent flow for turning a waterwheel than water flowing through a natural stream or channel. I'm used to seeing them with a manmade stream in to fill it and another manmade stream out, which is where the mill and waterwheel would be. The stream into the pond is the mill stream, while the channel out is the mill race. I can't say I've ever seen it done with buried pipes like this, but in Europe and the northeastern United States, a lot of small ponds that we assume today are "natural" actually originated as mill ponds. Look on a map and there's a good chance there's a "Mill Road" or some similarly named street nearby.
That is super cool to know! Wow
Wow. I haven’t heard the phrase “mill pond/stream” since I was a kid.
This means power could be generated by putting a turbine somewhere in the system?
@@yliannamarie403 a mill pond/stream was used to turn a water wheel very slowly to turn a mill stone to grind grain into flour. It's not enough water to generate meaningful power.
@@yliannamarie403 Maybe a LITTLE power? I’m not much for physics but I think to generate electricity you need to spin a turbine pretty fast, so a gentle flow like this might not be adequate. I doubt this was ever an actual mill pond, it seems purely decorative-I’m just saying it’s the same concept in principle.
Also suggest checking out old satellite imagery of your property if you haven't already (Google Earth Pro is free and has a nice simple historical imagery feature) to see if there are any images showing the pond or perhaps even the construction of it. Maybe you will get some little hints about the location of pipes or how it was used in the past. Excited to hear an update sometime soon!
World Imagery Wayback might help too but I am not 100% sure
This is a really good tip for anyone who owns a property.
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Looking back over old real estate photos I found out there used to be an inground pool in my backyard...
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Might be a good idea to document the drain locations(In and Out) and keep it with your land deed. That way the next guy won't be left confused if there is no friendly neighbor.
Also if you put in a leaf grate you might want to make it an inch or so down into the pit so, one it keeps people from falling in, two installing it on the pit instead of the pipe at the bottom will give you more area to clog before it backs up, three it also makes cleaning by hand possible, four if it is and inch or 2 down the whole thing will be clogged before it overflows. If you go this route I'd make a strong grate for supporting weight then put a smaller gapped grate circle on top of it so that you can just lift it out and clean it with a hose. (Maybe with a handle.)
Protip for grate owners: slap a pull line on your grate. Use either heavy 3/4" chain or quality braided steel cable for heavy grates. Either throw in a treated post or find a nearby tree. Think about how you're gonna pull it when the weather is nice, if you put in a post an eyebolt and come along works so good for just cracking a clogged grate to allow for drainage and then cleaning with minimal slip through.
Just make them subscribe to see the video that details the pond system.
In a previous life I worked as a buried utility locator. I worked for a company that contracted to the power company the phone company the cable tv company etc. we also located private utilities, water, sewer, and drain pipes like the one that goes to your pond. I noticed that there was a wire attached to that clean out that you showed us. That is a locate point. You should really consider having it located and marked out for your records. I’m not sure how much they charge these days.
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In hydraulic storm water design, the use of a clean out / breather has a few important features: (1) It helps you find the pipe location. This can’t be overstated. (2) As the name states, it is a point of clean out. We often use the access to jet and camera the pipe. The jetting is done with a high pressure hose to clean out debris and mud. If roots obstruct the drain, then a root cutter is used. Depending on the access, the pipe may have to be dug up. (3) This is also called a “breather.” The breather helps avoid hydraulic locks in the pipe. The breather helps the water to flow through the pipe more efficiently.
I think you owe your neighbor friend a dinner! Always fun Contant love your channel!
Much appreciated. He is a great guy and definitely deserves that!
Most definitely owes him dinner and a case of beer.
The guy that designed that pond is very smart. Self leveling and just about maintenance free. Clean everything every spring and you should be good. You should be able to put fish in that pond as well.
I would have loved to see the initial plan configuration of this design to how the installation process was achieved. What a kookie and clever design! 🐺🔧
Also, what a good neighbor to share that kind of information with you!
I have no answer, but your property is amazing! I'm jealous.
Wow! That is really interesting! That took a little bit of ingenuity and determination to construct that pond.
Thank you, I am glad it worked out. Strangest drain I ever cleaned in my life
@@SilverCymbal I'm surprised it wasn't disclosed to you when they sold the house! If I had devised a setup like that, I would have been showing it off left and right to the new prospective owners. "Look at what I made! Gaze your eyes upon its glory!"
@@literarynick hahahahahaha
@@literarynick Stuff like that is illegal in a lot of places lol.
That's impressive.
The conduit with the string running through it and now this.. I wonder what other surprises you might come across. For someone so sofisticated, I'd be willing to bet he has schematics. Perhaps near a furnace room or even that remote building. Keep your eyes open for priceless antiques stashed like a buried vehicle or collectable war time artifacts.
Could be designed as a trout pond, depth, clean, cool and fresh water.
The rock is a nice place to sit and fish off too.
In the UK people are building ponds like yours, filling them with native plants and wildlife and using them for wild swimming. Guess this has not caught on in the states. Your very lucky. Enjoy
Hope you update this, I'm curious about it all. I wish I had some advice, but I do not. Obviously the 'system' is designed to try and get hillside water to go directly to the pond somehow. Maybe when all this went in some of the trees were small, or not there at all, but I agree, putting that much pipe in a woods would be tough.
That was cool it was genius whoever made that pond.
The mystery of Oak Island is solved 👌
A drain, and a pipe in the woods camouflaged in leaves dating back to the 2022's? Could this be the clue they've been waiting for. Could this be the mysterious box drain they've searched so hard to find?
Awesome content as always. You can get crystal clear water for viewing if you establish a push through on the levy to the creek below (assuming there’s a downhill portion to the pond levy..so you have constant water flow in and out. Then you can control the speed at which it flows to produce your hydro. Hope that makes sense
Was thinking same thing. Micro hydro may very well work.
Oh the joys of not just learning about an old house but also an old mountain property, lol. So cool!
One of my favorite fishing holes from my youth was dredged and turned into a gravity pond as a swimming hole for the neighborhood. It's amazing to see what appears to be still water not developing algae. It was a head scratcher at first until it was explained to me how that was possible.
That’s a detention pond that slows the flow of storm water from entering the local streams too quickly. It’s helps to stop flooding and the release of contaminate from entering the local streams. I have one in my neighborhood as well.
There are pipes like that in a nature reserve they were dug by hand and the pipes allow drainage underneath pathways and lead out of the side of a steep cliff it was done in the late 1800s
It's like an in-ground ram pump. Cool. There are a ton of videos on Ram Pumps, I would suggest checking them out and seeing if they fit the mechanism you are experiencing. This is neat and I have to give a lot of credit to the previous owner.
Area looks really serene with all that flowing water and pond.
Wow. I was proud of myself for discovering some drainage quirks on my new property but this is on a whole other level. Fascinating stuff. How lucky to find you own something so unique. And glad you didn’t find a dead [whatever you were gonna say] in that hole!
Your pond is beautiful. We had a pond like that in PA. Fed by a little creek. Had to keep the intake clear. It was much closer to the creek though. Our pond had an outlet pipe that also needed to be kept clear.
Wow ... I'd be putting a few trout in there now you have that water dropping sorted
That’s a great pond, man. Awesome system. I wouldn’t change a thing. Just keep it flowing.
The trees weren't there when they installed the line. The forest is relatively young. The slope isn't the least bit extreme for a little excavator or even backhoe. As for the system itself, not sure what you need help with. As you said yourself, keep debris from plugging your supply line...
We have a pond on our property, about twice the size of yours, and it also has a drain, but the drain is only there to keep the pond from overflowing in case of heavy rains (we live in a hurricane zone) The drain is pretty much stopped up, and so during periods of super heavy rainfall, it does back up into the lower portions of our property, and sometimes takes several days or a week for the pond to return to it's normal banks. The drain in our pond is near the top level of our pond, and is designed to empty into a drainage ditch, which is only about 50 ft from the edge of the pond. If you look on the edge of your pond nearest to the direction of where you think the water may be flowing, you might find it, of course searching during times when your pond is at it's lowest. Our drain is covered by a metal grate that can be raised and lowered, but the pond has been there for so long that my husband thinks leaves and debris have partially clogged the drainage pipe. The dye in the water suggestion might work to help you find the drainage point. All of this aside, none of this has affected the wildlife in our pond. Our pond is teeming with fish and turtles, but as I already said, the drain is near the surface of the pond, so during dry periods, the pond only drains to a certain point, and does not continue to drain once it reaches the level of the drain.
You could put a little florescent dye in the input and see where it comes into the pond...very interesting build.
I thought for sure this was going to be a collab with Post 10.
That is really cool! I would try and do some micro hydro power stuff!
I was thinking that too, maybe just tap into the pipe and free juice!
How much power could you get off of something like that?
You could have a covering made out of steel plate, or even wood mabey 4ft by 4ft and in the summer cover that hole you were post holing.Let the pond drain completely, and be able to.clean it up good.Then remove the covering and place a 4+4 screen in its place.I have a P.H.D. in post hole digging.Salute.
That's crazy! Try something like an Atruim grate. They work better than flat grates in high debris areas. You'll have to clean it regularly but at least it shouldn't flood anything important if left for a while.
I don't know why but I love this video.
It's a fresh water pond. These are all over the place up north in areas like Montana. Go get some big rocks and position them around the drain to keep it from clogging. You basically have free water for gardening and you can also hook up filtration for drinking water.
I'm no engineer but it seems to me that you could put a non-toxic dye in the water and follow it. I could be wrong but that certainly makes perfectly good sense to me.
There's no need to pitch the pipe. As long as it stays below the level of the source, the pipe could go down a mile, doesn't matter because water finds its level. In other words, even if the pipe goes below the level of the water in the pond, it will rise back up to come out the outlet in the pond
Same way as hydro power works, similar to a penstock/conduit from a pond/reservoir taking water to a lower level,but with no turbine involved, can easily run several miles.
Do a collab with youtuber post 10. He does all kinds of weird and crazy drain clean outs. Would be cool to get his take on your system.
Oh, how wonderful! What a blessing! Great neighbor, too!
We have a similar size pond on our property but it's a natural one I believe. The water level took a big hit this year as it was very dry in the UK. Luckily the rain water soakaways from our house and neighbours properties feed into it. These are actually mentioned on the deeds about keeping them clear. It has filled up pretty quickly with the rainfall we had in the winter and autumn. Sadly the lower level killed quite a few of our ghost carp when the weather went very cold really quickly. The level is nearly back to normal now thankfully.
I believe many many years ago they used to use ours for irrigation as there is the remains of an area used for pumping all that's left is a few brick walls.
Very glad you managed to sort yours out. Great video.
I rarely comment but that is so impressive, I’m guessing a lot was done by hand! Hard workers back in the day..
You should always coment even if its only "Great vid" so algorithms help video (unless you really didn't like it).
That is so cool! Please keep us updated if you find out more information.
@Silver Cymbal
Considering that you previously found another fake rock, i suspect one, if not all, of the rocks in your pond are fake too and possibly contribute to the water control system.
As you have an active drain with unknown suction, i would not swim in there. I would get a fishing camera (with lights built into the cam) and poke around on either:
1. a small boat or kayak with you in it
2. A small remote controlled model boat or otherwise primitive float dragged with a cable by you across the pond
3. a long lever balanced on a frame from shore, dunking and pivoting the system by hand.
4. Dangle it from a drone if you have one with that weight capacity.
The fishing cam is a good sysnergy as you can do spot for such a cam on your channel like the other stuff on your channel.
The tunneling over distance sounds like a crazy project but they probably did a slant drill with a thin bore over the distance, and then built the pipe into it by screwing sections of pipe into it to build it. Like how they do modern water wells, but diagonal.
BTW, you need to get a grate asap on the drain area downhill as it is a hazard for anybody to fall in.
Sorry I can’t help. But that is a dream property! I hope to live somewhere like that someday❤
Thank you, NH is a really nice place to live. You can get a lot of land here for much less money and with Starlink, the internet barrier that made living here difficult is gone.
There’s another channel here on RUclips called Apple Drain’s. I think they’re down in Florida. The guy is constantly posting new videos about everything drainage. I bet he would have some answers for you. For some reason unknown water sources creep me out😳😂
I sure wish he was up here! I need to have those drains done on my house. But apparently the laws are different from town to town so I can't do it the easy way. So I was forced to call a company and holy crap!, They wanted $12,000! And it's seriously pretty straight shot. I decided to definitely not do it for the time being.
Nice video! I think most healthy ponds happen when they have an inlet and an outlet. Getting the pipe thru the property is only slightly difficult with a tool called a “Ditch Witch.” It’s like a giant slow motion chain saw for the ground. Plus you only need a 2% pitch to get water moving. The thing I would do, is try to create a cover for wheee you were digging. That would slow the accumulation of leaves and debris. HTH.
What a cool thing to discover on your property.. like finding a hidden room sorta..
Wow, hell of a thing for your neighbor to know, props to them for bringing it up.
Lol most people aren't brain dead.
I've come across what I call pseudo springs. They look like springs but are not connected to an aquifer. They occur near hills that have an imperviable rock layer. Snow gathers higher up, melts and runs down through the soil until it hit the imperviable layer. It then follows that all the way down to the bottom of the hill and then bubbles to the surface. It looks like a spring but only lasts a few months (until the snow is all melted and bubbles away).
Amazing! I have a pond that was supposedly fed by an underground spring. The water level had risen and lowered naturally with the seasons. I thought it was odd that "all of a sudden" the water is lowering and no longer rising. Who knows, maybe this sort of thing was more common than we thought... thank you for sharing. I will be searching the property for pipes and drain equipment!
The water flow from the capped white pipe you said was for clean out reminds me of the Ram Pump my father uses to fill his pond. Requires no power and could easily travel a couple thousand feet with the water flow you have.
COOL! It's not a mosquito farm.
When I worked at Wal-Mart a while back the Fake Pond in the back would drain like that. Turns out a hubcap from someone's car was blocking the pipes that ran water to and from the pond, once we removed it the pond went back to normal.
that was probably a retention pond? Or was it supposed to be for show?
@@M.TTT. EPA regulations require that all construction activities greater than a certain size (half acre I think, could be wrong) have a stormwater retention pond be part of the construction. This is to create a buffer so that storms don't cause as much flooding.
@@chuckhoyle1211 yea lol I know, but the poster just said fake pond, so I wasn't sure
That's an awesome system you've got, with a bit of regular maintenance your pond could be 10 times the size it is now.
For help, businesses that work on septic systems also work on water supply or pond systems.
Most of this you can do yourself once you know the entire system.
If I were you, I'd be digging out a larger pond and eventually connecting the 2 together. You're sitting on a gold mine of a resource, don't waste it ... expand it!!!
What a nice suprize
Yes, someone really wanted this here a lot
I love a comment inspired channel. We are in for some great content here soon! Great video! Definitely top 10!
There is channel of some city worker who just posts him working unclogging various drains. I think its called post10. He comes across very unique systems, and show how drains really work. He usually finds a clog off the side or somethere else to allow flow.
I'm subscribed to his channel I think that's why RUclips recommended this video to me lol.
He's not even a city worker - he's just some guy in an eternal war against poorly-maintained infrastructure, and beavers.
That's a ~very~ cool pond. [smile] You're a lucky guy. [grin]
Since you like solar why not try hydro as well since you have a pond
Ozzie Osborne would know about Crazy Drains. Oh, wait. That's "trains." Nevermind. Enjoyed the video, though! Can't wait to see how you do with rescuing the pond!
This is awesome!
Maybe put a little hydro-generator in and you can have some lights at the pond and road.
Wow very cool, props to whoever designed and made it!
This seems just a variation on a classic detention pond or retention pond. Storm water is collected and run underground to a pond. There is a discharge somewhere to keep it from overflowing. The clean out at the top is handy given the amount of debris entering the pipe. Thanks for sharing.
Rocks were probably in there to keep the leaves and stuff from going down that pipe. Like a natural biofilter.
Flashback - I recall seeing a Popular Mechanics (ai think) from the late 50’s or 60’s with a DIY farm pond project article. That may be a blueprint for this mystery.
good idea
Your edit was awesome for this! I literally watched until the end and was entertained the whole time!
You need advice from @Post10. This is right up his alley.
I'd use a non toxic dye at the drain next to your driveway and see where it comes out. It should float to the surface after entering the pond so you'll have some idea where it's actually at. I'd also definitely cover that access with a screen of some kind too and check it every couple weeks in the fall just to make sure it's not too heavily covered.
Working at an auto parts store, I have to listen to a lot of old guys. Stories like this, where they're possible but sound rather unlikely, tend to be true. Maybe 60-70% of the time. Sometimes they're false, sometimes completely true, or anywhere in between. But it definitely averages out to be worth looking into.
The real trick is to get them to leave without insulting them if the stories are boring or uncomfortable. But if he has some good stories, then you want to keep him as long as possible without getting in trouble.
Can you look up a 97 Toyota Tacoma water pump gasket?
@@Mediocre00Rebel Sure, but the picture is missing; can you describe it for me?
There are several companies that make a scope that lets you look at the inside of the pipe with lengths included as well as some models including a second part that can detect the camera underground. I have seen both This Old House & Linus Tech Tips use one of those cameras with the location sensor. It is something plumbers use to figure out where pipes go when they are buried & no one actually knows where they actually go or how far down the pipe they have to dig if that is the only way to solve the problem.
This is the coolest thing ever. Thank you for posting this.
Minus not having a grate that’s a well thought out and awesome pond! Beautiful land as well. Time to stock it! Bama Bass channel is an awesome series as well!
I'm thinking that there probably was a grate there originally, and it was stolen/lost/broken at some point and never replaced.
Honestly, I think that drain/vent "system" is going to need some type preventative leaf-blocker, over the entire thing (maybe a mock-up Outhouse or something) that gets installed at the end of September. Otherwise is going to be a ongoing task all of October and November to clean that out...people have better things to do that manual leaf clean outs on a weekly basis. Can't be too expensive since it's in the woods and trees can easily fall on it at any time.
Or a styrofoam "boulder"
Really ? Did you think that up all by yourself?or when he mentioned it in the video?
@@larryferd1510 He asked in the video for advice on that.
@@snowgorilla9789 ya. One of those fake boulders is a great idea! As long as it doesn’t blend in TOO much so you lose it! Lol
That pond would be an excellent place to populate with trout for your enjoyment to fish and enjoy your property.
Watching this reminded me of these ponds we have in the UK called Dew ponds (which are mostly fed by rain not dew). But are designed to keep the water cool to prevent evaporation, and stay that way even through droughts/mid summer and so dont dry up (in most cases). Normally they are built in places which dont retain surface water easily like Dorset to keep cattle watered. They think some of them could go back to the bronze age or further!
Really liking this new format relating to your land. Also, great video!
@silvercymbal here is a suggestion to make cleanout easier and keep your inlet from plugging. I have a civil engineering degree and spent a lot of time in my adult life messing with water flowing over and underground. On your inlet pipe, put a 90 degree T and add about 18" of pipe pointed straight up. Then put your leaf screen on top of that pipe. The bottom part of the T should have a cap that you can easily remove or even a valve controlling water into it. When you do not have water flowing and you want to drain any leftover water out of the pool by the inlet pipe, open then bottom leg of the T for full drain and inlet cleanout.
Wow! That's an incredible and unique setup.
So growing up, I remember a show that during one episode flushed a gold ball down the drain and followed it through the sewer system. Could try dropping a small ping pong ball and see how long it takes to get to the pond
My only advice is to get the skates sharpened for winter.
Your are a Lucky man to have such great neighbours!
Preppers dream. Very cool. Stock it with some 'Bama Bass"
There are some fish in there but I don't know what kind. Bamabass's channel is awesome, what he built is off the charts
You've got all of us hooked with this episode of mystery. Looking forward to your next submission about your pond. Very interesting... Sorry, wish I had advice for you.
That is the coolest thing ever! Love your videos, man.
Lol I love seeing my favorite RUclipsrs watching other great RUclipsrs! The Bama Bass pond is awesome
I did some mapping work in the Appalachian mountains where I'm from, and I'de find random cisterns in the middle of nowhere carrying water to God knows where ALL the time. Sometimes it'd just be a bucket with a bulkhead and 500 feet of garden hoses going down the mountain to someone's house. There's a lot of weird random things people do to creeks in what you would think is undeveloped land.
Random cisterns in the middle of nowhere and 500 feet of garden hose in the Appalachian mountains sound like someone was making moonshine
@@kevinwaterman389 That is exactly what I was thinking.
WOW! Cool
Maybe you could drop some environmentally safe dye into that drain and see if and where it shows up in the pond.
That's awesome. Your neighbor must have witnessed the construction knowing where to guide you
This is my dream to live somewhere like you do. There is a guy from the USA (sorry I can't remember where) on RUclips. He is older and has spent his life creating an eco system of about 6 or 7 pond like this from one stream so that his land was fertile enough to provide. He explained how it all worke and how to do it. I'll have a look and post the title for you. I hope this helps. I look forward to your next instalment
I don’t know anything about construction or drainage or mechanical type stuff but this video was fascinating. It’s like a mystery!
Once had a 3 acre pond/lake dug on our property. Noticed the culvert on our road drained water from a “wet spring”, a spring that runs during much, but not all times of the year, attached 4” drain tile to bottoms of culvert to initially fill up our “plake”. Works great and required very little drop in elevation…inches maybe over a few hundred feet. I didn’t use a transit level but would be a simple task to run the pipe in your case. Be sure to keep your overflow on the pond clear! You don’t want a breach! Also Muskrats will destroy your narrow dam, keep them out. Thanks for sharing!
That's super cool. Well thought out the guy was a genius
That was very interesting! Good luck with your pond.