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Ivanpah Solar Power Plant
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2020
- See aerial close up video of the 3 tower solar plant near Primm, NV. The Ivanpah thermal solar power plant has been operational since 2014, generating 392 megawatts average. It cost $2.2bil to build, but it has it's issues. Reliability and environmental harm are the problems. Too many moving parts is the main problem, having too much to break. Music title: Spiritual Guidance, by Nir Ben Ami, licensed from Storyblocks.com
Great video and information Tom. I'm shocked by so many downed and mis-aimed mirrors. I've never seen this type of close-up before. Great work!
Very interesting video ,my friend. Looks like a constant repair problem to keep it working. Thanks for sharing this video with us.
A timelapse of this would be cool to see :)
Driven by many times on route between So CA and Colorado. Very well done and informative!
"Requires no moving parts" doesn't mean that solar panel fields never need maintenance, though. I was unhappy about that bird statistic too, but it isn't inherantly better at converting energy just because the other farm doesn't move.
Unlike solar panels which goes off immediately after sunset, these types of plants gradually goes offline, which is less of a shock for the grid. I am not sure if that feature is worth double the price per watt (price quoted in the video)
According to an article written by David Danelski on January 23, 2017 for Press Enterprise, “The most recent numbers from the California Air Resources Board show that in 2015, the plant’s second year of operation, carbon emissions from Ivanpah’s gas use jumped by 48.4 percent to 68,676 metric tons. That’s more than twice the pollution threshold for power plants or factories in California to be required to participate in the state’s cap-and-trade program to reduce carbon emissions.”
Technology will always get better and one day these things will be perfect. I honestly feel sorry for the birds issue, maybe they should do their best to keep this area completely bird free like it's normally done with airports..
According to an article written by David Danelski on January 23, 2017 for Press Enterprise, “The most recent numbers from the California Air Resources Board show that in 2015, the plant’s second year of operation, carbon emissions from Ivanpah’s gas use jumped by 48.4 percent to 68,676 metric tons. That’s more than twice the pollution threshold for power plants or factories in California to be required to participate in the state’s cap-and-trade program to reduce carbon emissions.”
They could branch to selling the grilled birds on-site as a Green delicacy.
Yeah, it's a neat idea, but as it ages, becomes more of a maintenance problem. Good job for the servo tech. The process of directing the light to create heat, then that is turned into mechanical motion, to create electrical power, is less efficient than using solar panels. I'd still like to visit this place, because it's still one of the marvels of our desire to go green, presently at a higher cost. But we have to start somewhere.
It keeps working despite all the damage. The efficiency might not be optimal but the sun is free. So if they find a way to maintain it better and to scare the birds away, then it's not so bad.
It took a long time to actually make a heliostat power plant. I did a report on these in high school based on the October 1975 issue of Popular Science
These things were aroung since 1975?
It looks like 1/2 of them are broken facing the wrong direction
I have theoretical degree in physics. Names Fantastic
Very nice footage! One question - can I have permission to use a section of this footage in a video that I’m making relating to climate change and the California electric grid? If not, that’s fine, but thanks in advance.
What’s with all the out of order or broken mirrors?
I love siemen generators.
Video paid by your local coal power plant ☘️
It's not 392 MW average, but the theoretical maximum. With many of the reflectors in inch-sized bits, missing, or staring at the Moon, they probably get a small fraction only.
Solar panels require many components that are not green.
Mirrors are better.
Both technologies have many components that aren't recyclable, if that's what you're talking about. Using the sun for power is absolutely green in the big picture. Solar panels don't fry thousands of birds a year, so mirrors are certainly better at killing wild life, which I would hope you agree isn't friendly to the environment. So it depends on your perspective and desire for efficiency and value.
Yes
Your are correct.
I was mostly thinking about the MEERS project.....
If we don't implement it soon we will be unable to slow down climate change and will soon loose habitat for humans.
As soon as the arctic is gone, it's over.
I didn't say that because I didn't want to go into it in response to this .
It’s just one giant Rube Goldberg electron pushing machine!
That’s the Archimedes II from Fallout New Vegas
Where is the information sourced from?
"That Lucky Old Sun"
When I got this assignment I was hoping there would be more gambling
HELIOS One coming back on-line.
This concept would be good for mars provided you can keep the mirrors relatively clean. But definitely sucks here on earth.
Was just there this weekend. Seems to be a waste of money and just killing birds and insects. May contribute to the heat in the desert since the heated air reaches 1000 degrees
So is Ivanpah considered a success or failure? Will they be building any more of these types of heliostat solar facilities or was it an experiment that did not come to fruition? From the tone of your texts I assume you think it is a technology not to be pursued.
If it was a failure they would have turned it off, currently operational at about 400mega watts of power . It produces less power than designed, kills a decent amount of birds, and requires a good bit of natural gas to get going in the morning. On the up side it produces a decent amount of power using very little water and produces most of it during peak use time, it takes no rare earth materials to construct and utilizes an area of land otherwise empty. Defiantly a cool power source, if they build more they should do it further away from the publics eye so less people complain.
I can't imagine another heliostat plant getting built. Although it works, there are a lot of warts. Considering the cost comparison, usage of land, and power output, the panels seem to be the better value proposition. Panels also seem much less hassle to keep running, give the thousands of moving parts in the heliostat plant, which often break. Did you see all the non functional mirrors? The worst wart of heliostat is the wild life getting fried around the tower. Thousands of birds vaporize when they fly into the focus area of the light beams. The bright light attracts bugs, and the bugs attract birds, which are ignorant about the heat. Not good.
@@TomSpurlock How many hundreds of thousands of birds and wildlife have been fried to death since it was built a decade ago? no wonder the skies are empty...
Well the This plant a can produce power at any time. The light is concentrated on a point to melt salt. The molten salt is stored and can be used to meat up steam when ever the power is needed
@@TomSpurlock if they weren’t so high cost they’d be worth it. Despite the issues they’re still much more reliable than panels. Repairs are easy to make and these plants rarely go OOS, unlike solar plants, where outages are very common
Love it!
Is it a cheaper option or just a fancy design?
What is this power being used for?
The birds and insects weren’t thought of with these designs?
We’re birds or insects thought of where you live and dwell!? Says the person that would kill a spider or cockroaches in your house or place you rent lmao hypocrite
@@Liberalcali you are mistaking what I am saying. If these so called eco friendly people gave a fuck about the entire eco system, this should have been thought out.
I don’t give a flying fuck about the birds or the bugs.
@@Liberalcali PS - it’s were - not we’re
A hail storm would destroy that place.
Good thing its in the desert
Wow, this thing is falling apart.
Could something like this be used for evil? You know… like Archimedes setting the boats on fire!
Both solar thermal generation and photovoltaic panels have environmental impacts. Solar panel manufacturing requires substantial amounts of water, industrial materials, and even fossil fuels. Coal is the primary energy source used in the photovoltaic panel production process, which is directly linked to increased carbon emissions. All considered, both methods of power generation are way, WAY better than fossil fuel generators.
So long and thanks for the tax money.
GOD DAMN legalized stealing !!! My opinion
If only it would attract flies, wasps, hornets, mosquitoes--Mean ass insects. Hard to miss this place on your way to Vegas, or if you're passing through that way to get to Utah, Arizona, Colorado, etc. Nice drive in the fall.