Love doing TSI! Consult with your local NRCS/USDA forester first. What we've learned in my area is you want to control the invasives first. We have multiflora rose and bush honeysuckle really bad. You want to get a handle those invasives before you tsi & give em more sunlight
A tornado ripped through my neighborhood two years ago and now, that’s where I see the most deer, right in the area that tornado downed so much timber.
I'm currently thinning a few spots on my 60 acres in middle Tennessee. I plan on burning next year as well. I'm looking forward to seeing the progress.
So how do you compete owning a small parcel and the neighboring timber company just cut 500-1000 acres? Now, that is the prime cover for bedding, and browse within a half mile. The deer never have to leave that. They can browse, breed in the comfort of their domain. I guess you plant the best food you possibly can without buying a fortune of farming equipment. Anyways, I love the work you guys do and I apply it when deemed necessary. I think Adam( Land and Legacy) and Dr Craig Harper do the best job at giving the small land owner great advice, especially south of the mason Dixon where all this switch grass, woody browse, hinge cutting doesn’t apply quite as much. Thank You guys 👍
How many trees you remove is dependent on your goal for the site. A typical recommendation is opening the canopy by 30% or removing roughly 30% of the over story trees. We typically do not remove trees that we fell. They will be consumed by follow up prescribed fire. If you wanted to remove the trees or use them for fire wood etc that is not an issue.
We have done many videos that might help you understand and feel more comfortable with prescribed fire, check them out! You can and should always contact your local fire department to verify/notify them of a burn. Yes, TSI would still be beneficial, you would just have more work with the maintenance phases and would be implementing a more woody component to the forest rather than herbaceous forage without prescribed fire.
Depends on the site. But for this example the fire will burn off the debris of the trees that we fell and help keep the site in more of a herbaceous structure instead of woody plants. Again this depends on the site and how often you use fire on the site. Generally every 2-3 years is a good rule.
Thank you; I thought the "woody browse" i.e. small seedlings/ hardwood regen and vegetative growth (forbes) is what the deer prefer? I am just a novice and I appreciate your advice. Thx
@@davidsoloninka7742 Correct deer do rely heavily on woody browse during the winter months when the herbaceous plants are gone. Burning on a 2-3 year fire interval will keep a nice mix of woody sprouts and herbaceous plants.
Consult with a regional forester. It’s 2022, it’s hard for a guy to be a crock and everyone doesn’t know it. Having a forester involved can help ensure everyone is fair
You’ll typically see more brambles and saplings. It’s not all bad, especially if you’re in a northern state that needs an abundance of woody browse from saplings, stump sprouts, and brambles.
They can be used for firewood! Making piles isn’t really a great idea because it makes it a little too thick. Just don’t get carried away with the piles
So.. everyone talks about implementing prescribed fire.. I talked to 2 different state agencies for near me as I'm the border of two states and neither one does that and they only know of one person in the entire region that does prescribed fire. The cost they told me is around 20k for about 10 acres of land. I asked about classes, I asked about quite a few things and the people were very helpful, absolutely, but prescribed fire isn't something they really recommend. So how on earth does a "regular" person do a prescribed fire as that seems to be a common thing in TSI. Everything is.. terminate the undesirable trees and the following year implement prescribed fire.
No way fire should cost 2000 dollars per acre. Not even a tenth of that! You could burn your 10 acres in part of an afternoon with one person to help out, a leaf blower and a couple rakes. Even if you bought everything possible to make your fire easier you wouldn't spend 5 percent of that 20 grand. You could do it with practically nothing that you don't probably already have though.
Love doing TSI! Consult with your local NRCS/USDA forester first. What we've learned in my area is you want to control the invasives first. We have multiflora rose and bush honeysuckle really bad. You want to get a handle those invasives before you tsi & give em more sunlight
You are correct! Our video tonight touches on that, as well as a few other tips for successfully implementing TSI!
Clear cuts. Desperately needed in this country.
Clear cuts, thinning, burning all are needed in much of the country but unfortunately some states aren’t onboard with this thinking
A tornado ripped through my neighborhood two years ago and now, that’s where I see the most deer, right in the area that tornado downed so much timber.
No surprise! Sunlight and wood structure combined are great for deer bedding and additional native forage
I did a timber thin on my 30 acre parcel in Tennessee last year. I followed it up with a controlled burn and my turkey and deer numbers have gone up.
I'm currently thinning a few spots on my 60 acres in middle Tennessee. I plan on burning next year as well. I'm looking forward to seeing the progress.
Nice!! Great work!
Where in Tennessee I got 500 acres in Morgan county 😅
So how do you compete owning a small parcel and the neighboring timber company just cut 500-1000 acres? Now, that is the prime cover for bedding, and browse within a half mile. The deer never have to leave that. They can browse, breed in the comfort of their domain. I guess you plant the best food you possibly can without buying a fortune of farming equipment. Anyways, I love the work you guys do and I apply it when deemed necessary. I think Adam( Land and Legacy) and Dr Craig Harper do the best job at giving the small land owner great advice, especially south of the mason Dixon where all this switch grass, woody browse, hinge cutting doesn’t apply quite as much. Thank You guys 👍
How do you know how many trees to take down? Also, one last question, when you drop a tree, you don't leave the tree on the ground, right?
How many trees you remove is dependent on your goal for the site. A typical recommendation is opening the canopy by 30% or removing roughly 30% of the over story trees. We typically do not remove trees that we fell. They will be consumed by follow up prescribed fire. If you wanted to remove the trees or use them for fire wood etc that is not an issue.
Great information
Thank you!!
To be honest closed canopy forest in a lot of ways isn’t pretty anyways either
Agreed. There is a place where closed canopy can provide benefit but allowing the entire farm to be that is a bad idea
What if I'm scared of prescribed fire or in an area close to houses? Still beneficial to TSI?
We have done many videos that might help you understand and feel more comfortable with prescribed fire, check them out! You can and should always contact your local fire department to verify/notify them of a burn. Yes, TSI would still be beneficial, you would just have more work with the maintenance phases and would be implementing a more woody component to the forest rather than herbaceous forage without prescribed fire.
What does the fire/burning do for the habitat?
thx
Depends on the site. But for this example the fire will burn off the debris of the trees that we fell and help keep the site in more of a herbaceous structure instead of woody plants. Again this depends on the site and how often you use fire on the site. Generally every 2-3 years is a good rule.
Thank you; I thought the "woody browse" i.e. small seedlings/ hardwood regen and vegetative growth (forbes) is what the deer prefer? I am just a novice and I appreciate your advice. Thx
@@davidsoloninka7742 Correct deer do rely heavily on woody browse during the winter months when the herbaceous plants are gone. Burning on a 2-3 year fire interval will keep a nice mix of woody sprouts and herbaceous plants.
Sounds real good but it’s hard finding timber cutter who are not crooks. They leave huge ruts and eye sores for years.
Consult with a regional forester. It’s 2022, it’s hard for a guy to be a crock and everyone doesn’t know it. Having a forester involved can help ensure everyone is fair
How many years before is it necessary to control burn?
We burned two years after cutting, it all depends on the plant response to the sunlight and if enough plant growth provides the fuel load to burn
@@Landandlegacytube is it possible to wait till every 4?
What happens if not comfortable with the burning
You’ll typically see more brambles and saplings. It’s not all bad, especially if you’re in a northern state that needs an abundance of woody browse from saplings, stump sprouts, and brambles.
Can the timber cut down that would normally be left to lay be cut up for firewood? Then some of the tops piled up for rabbit and squirrel cover?
They can be used for firewood! Making piles isn’t really a great idea because it makes it a little too thick. Just don’t get carried away with the piles
A better analogy is doing renovations. You gotta make a mess to get that beautiful kitchen
That's a great way to put it!
So.. everyone talks about implementing prescribed fire.. I talked to 2 different state agencies for near me as I'm the border of two states and neither one does that and they only know of one person in the entire region that does prescribed fire. The cost they told me is around 20k for about 10 acres of land. I asked about classes, I asked about quite a few things and the people were very helpful, absolutely, but prescribed fire isn't something they really recommend. So how on earth does a "regular" person do a prescribed fire as that seems to be a common thing in TSI. Everything is.. terminate the undesirable trees and the following year implement prescribed fire.
We have an entire playlist on prescribed fire. Check it out, we think you will find some good information in our videos in that playlist.
What region are you in? Where I live the state Forestry dept will perform a burn for $25/ ac
No way fire should cost 2000 dollars per acre. Not even a tenth of that! You could burn your 10 acres in part of an afternoon with one person to help out, a leaf blower and a couple rakes. Even if you bought everything possible to make your fire easier you wouldn't spend 5 percent of that 20 grand. You could do it with practically nothing that you don't probably already have though.
Ohh I hear ya.. talked with state people and they don't want to do it so they make it near impossible.