Why Dominicans are not Black?| Culture Explained 🇩🇴
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In this short segment we briefly explore the idiosyncratic identity of the Dominican ethnic group which is la dominicanidad. La Dominicanidad is a unique identity that celebrates all parts (with neither excluded) of being Dominican.
From the point of view of anthropology and sociology, the Dominican ethnic group emerged 500 years ago and are descendants of Tainos, Europeans and Africans. Our combined indigenous ancestry dates back genetically to 2,500 years ago in the Americas and culturally we have inherited various customs from other indigenous groups who lived on the island 7,000 years ago. We have inherited African customs from West Central Africa and European customs from Southwest Europe. We are a stew. We are descendants of those who preceded us on that island, we know it by DNA and cultural heritage. We Dominicans need to better study our history in order to better understand ourselves.
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I argued this point ALL the time with Black Americans. They think Latinos owe them some type of allegiance because of skin color. Latino culture, history, and traditions run much deeper than their colorist beliefs.
That's a bullshit lie!!! Most of you Hispanics are more racist than whites so we know there's no allegiance there.We just point out the obvious with the ones that are black and deny it
@@FUNNYHOODPRODUCTIONS LIKE I SAID WHEN YOUR ASS GET TO THA U.S YOU ARE BLACK
This is something I reexperienced when I came back to DR earlier this year (I live in Belgium). I was looking for those dolls that have no face to have as a token of my culture in my house. A worker in a museum told me that the fact that the doll has no face means that the dominican himself has no face, no features to identify him with. We're so diverse that the highest form of cultural art depicts us as a blank canvas.
Dude someone lied to you. You can identify with whatever you want but it doesn't change the fact that you are Black. African genes are dominant not recessive
Most Dominicans are visibly mixed race, the myth that we are super diverse has to be addressed, I never seen a Dominican that's black as coal (that person would be haitian) or as white as snow... the "Dominican phenotype" is a mixed race mulatto/tri-racial
Boricuas are also not black we are Spanish and Taino Indian along with traces of African. But just as not all of us have Spaniard the same is not all of us have African blood. We are a mixture.
Black is tha same as african.i don't care what you mix with 1 drop of African descendent you are black fuck it
You just admitted being black by stating Africa lol YOU ALL ARE JUST IN DENIAL 🤣
Some are pure Blood 🪶🪶🪶🪶
@BrandonRivera-vq5ff There is a difference between genotype (genetic makeup) versus phenotype (physical expression of the DNA). Black simply refers to phenotype. If you look at genotype, almost everybody is a mixture. Most black Americans and black Caribbeans have a genotype (genetic makeup) that would show a mix of indigenous, African, European, and often also Middle Eastern and Asian blood. That's the genetic makeup. However, the phenotype - meaning appearance - is unmistakably strongly African (also called black) for many Boricuas, and also many Dominicans. Surely you are aware of the strong black (phenotypically speaking) presence in Loiza, Carolina, Santurce, but really, all over the island. And surely you are aware of some of the most famous black Boricuas, like Arturo Schomburg (has a branch of the NYC Public Libray named after him), Piri Thomas (wonderful author), José Celso Barbosa (very instrumental in starting the statehood movement), among others. There is nothing wrong with recognizing phenotypically black people as Puerto Rican. But I see it as a colonized mentality to NOT want the descriptor of black to apply to Puerto Ricans who are obviously phenotypically black.
@lovevioletflowers3442 why are you trolling?🤔
Phenotypically Puerto Ricans are mix between Mediterranean, East European, and indigenous American. Puerto Ricans are not I repeat not Black or sub-Saharan African. To note 60 percent of the Puerto Rican population retain highest of indigenous ancestry in the Spanish Speaking Caribbean. Your comment is a contradiction. As I previously responded to you like Dominicans and Cubans (with evolutionary differences in demographic), Puerto Ricans have an idiosyncratic identity. Puerto Ricans identify as Boricua, Boriqueño/na, jibaro, etc. Not as being Black. That is a North American phenomenon.
Proper order and perspective!! Keep teaching don’t stop !
I’d pay money to see the interaction if you go to a “sundown/smalltown” and a racist person calls you a “ni**er”, and you hit him with “I’m not black, I’m Dominican “. 😂😂😂
Silly response. Dominicans are not Black, end of story.
@@AntilleanFederationmr big dog is not silly, he just just spoke facts. When you go travel in EU youre complation still looks black.
You are just being stubborn.
You can't hide youre Afro latino appearance Papi.
Black is a race, it is also the word/term that a US community uses to identify their group/community Most Dominicans are not fully black, but multiracial, and are not native to the US, so the term black is not for them. Dominican is the correct term to identify them. And if you are not Dominican and you choose to use that term to identify yourself, you are using falsehood and lying.
A lot of folks out there are ignorant to the truth. we ain't black. I'm Puerto Rican and my skin is white as can be...we are the same mix as Dominican folks.
@@AntilleanFederation what race is David "Big Papi" Ortiz?
This goes for all the Caribbean as we are ground zero of the Colombian exchange. We all had Taino or Carib tribes, European and African. We all did gold, cattle ranching, tobacco, sugar and rum. We all have white, mullattos and blacks on all the islands.
When black people come up... don't change your minds
@Jerry-er6gn can you elaborate a little further?🤔
Your response in regards makes no sense at all.
@AntilleanFederation bra u a typical NYC Dominican or Puerto Rican bc most of yall out their racist I already know lol. But my cousins in cali Puerto Rican some of mixed but nigga we know our roots better than u. Self hatred is deep and my brotha u hate ur self I'm sorry if a dark skinned robbed u or beat u up it's OK bro it's time to forgive 💯
Well explained 👏
That's right Dominicans!!!! Stand up for your culture,,,!!!Black Americans think everyone is black!!!
I don't think anyone taking away Dominican culture. People are just saying the African Dominicans are "Black". Many Dominicans think they have no African in them, at all. DR was a slave outpost. Starting in 1500 from Spain. The the African slaves were dropped off!
@gerald4384 there is no such thing as an African Dominican. It's just Dominican. Being Dominican is an idiosyncratic idenity representing Hispanic culture that evolved on the island via post contact. Dominicans know that they are a mixture of Taino Africans the Spanish brought and the European which shows in the DNA.
Secondly. The Spanish stopped importing enslaved African people by the end of 16th century. During this time remaining Taínos and Africans Spanish brought were hospitalized.
Third. Spain abandoned the colony for three centuries. Giving rise to admixture and Dominicans emerging on the island as an ethnic group.
Take your ethno centric nonsense elsewhere.
@@AntilleanFederation Oh boy! Really? So, the African part of Dominicans do not exist in the DNA? I have 36% European in my DNA, but I'm still "Black". I am not talking about any culture. I get that. When I visit the DR, they are surprised I am not one of them. You guys still think Christopher Columbus discovered the D.R. SMH
@gerald4384 you my friend are not an intelligent individual. The African component in the Dominican identity is observed together with the European and African. Black as an ethnic marker is associated with Black Americans, not the Dominican people. We are a ethnic group with a idiosyncratic idenity with a Hispanic culture that evolved on the island. And it should be respected.
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@@AntilleanFederation YOU my friend, need to learn your own history (if you're Dominican). I said nothing about Dominican Rep Hispanic culture; from the Spaniard that left their African slaves on an island. Culture is not color/race. I know all about "DOMINIALIDADE". Many people in the D.R. do not want to be associated with word "Black and African" American. So, they try to separate themselves. Even the darkest kinky haired Dominicans yell out "I no Black!!" THAT is some ignorant shyt right there.
Ethnic marker: Most Black American are not 100% African descent. Why aren't we saying, "I no Black"? Black Americans are more Intelligent about our background. When I visit DR, they think I'm one of them. I tell them what and where I'm from.
Good reporting
What if some black Dominicans go to travel in Asia like China, Japan, South Korea and Singapore and asking them what country do u think I'm from? What do u think of their responds? 😅
@scintkapolska5598 this is the dumbest response I have seen. Asian countries unlike here in the U.S. are not influenced by western constructs for ethnic groups. China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore do not see color as an Ethnic marker! This lame. Let me remind you I'm pro wrestler and I have a lot of Asian friends and none of them see me as Black. They see me as Dominican. Next. ✌️
Does that mean that I'm American and not Black?
@skssuccess75 no. It does not apply. Black Americans in the U.S. have experiences that set them apart from Caribbean Hispanics. Watch Tomas Sowell.
Dominicans are a Hispanic ethnic group in the Spanish speaking Caribbean with an idiosyncratic identity and Hispanic culture that evolved on the island.
@@AntilleanFederation Could you explain further? How is having different experiences relevant to your social classification? Would you called Haitians non-Black since they're part of the Latino community and speak a latin base language? Is being latino vs. hispanic totally different?
@skssuccess75 Haitian people are not an Hispanic diaspora. They are an afro-franco ethnic group. They speak French and Haitian Creole. They were imported into the island of Hispaniola by the French during the 18th century for their plantation economy.
Latino and Hispanic are interchangeable for someone who is from any of the Latin American countries. Speaking for Spanish speaking Caribbean Dominicans are a Latin/Hispanic American ethnic group with a Hispanic culture that evolved on the island (via post contact).
Would modern Egyptians and Moroccans identify as being black? The answer is no. They have their own culture and ethnic identity for which they identify with.
Outside of the U.S. various ethnic groups do not identify with black (black being synonymous with the color of your skin). As that is a North American cultural identification mainly with Black Americans.
@@AntilleanFederation Ok... I don't know where you're located, but I'm in California and a classification in regard to racial/ethnic group was added between 10 to 15 years ago. There's Black (American decent) then there is another category called Black of Latin/Hispanic decent. This social class was based off of American policies in regard to the Census.
I know of Africans who would be considered Black here in the U.S. who didn't regard themselves as Black in the own countries. They went by their nationalities as well as their ethnic groups (Fulani, Ibo, Hausa, etc. ) Also in recorded history there were Spanish Conquistadors like Juan Garrido, Pedro Alonzo Nino, Estevanico who went by their nationalities but in today's U.S.A. would be considered Black.
I don't fully be in the African Transatlantic slave trade as it was taught to us. I believe there were already so-called "Black" people here in the "New World" and the so-called "Black" Europeans who were considered Moors back then were being kicked out of Spain and other places in European during the Spanish Inquisition came here. What would be considered so-called "White" Europeans didn't start coming in droves until the mid 1850's and started mixing with the different local populations.
@skssuccess75 ethic idenity based on the color of your skin is a North American phenomenon (Mainly in the United States). As I already explained outside of the United States no one uses this identification unless they are of afrocentric perspective.
The video you are commenting is in regards to the ethnic identity of the Dominican people who do not use color as an ethnic marker nor as an identification.
Our history is different from Black Americans.
We did not have Jim Crow, Black Codes, etc.
Spanish stop importing enslaved African people by the end of the 16th century.
Spain also abandoned the Spanish colony for three centuries.
People of African descent also did not arrive to the Americas until post 1492. That is the 1500s and up.
There is no evidence whatsoever of people of African descent in the Americas before Columbus. That has been debunked. Watch Cheif X on RUclips.
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Genetics (ethnic) vs culture are two difference things. We AA are speaking from a genetic/ethnic point of view not culture.
E.g. The Mascogos are Afro-Mexicans who ancestors were runaway slaves into Mexico and delivered their own culture but they haven't forgotten their roots.
Dominicans on other hand has whitewash their own history before Christopher Columns and the Spanish colonization which later you became latinized adapting the identity of their oppressors. We know the history of the Taino and Arawak people before colonization and the intermixing with the slaves brought over to the Caribbean.
We are not outsiders because our ancestors are in your DNA which we are able to trace, hence why historically you're called a mulatto in every Spaniard history book.
The reason why we say you suffer from identity crisis become you don't know difference between nationality, ethnicity, and cultural identity.
E.g. Black/African American Christian
Black/African (predominate ethnicity),
American (nationality)
Christian (cultural identity)
Da called Native American males/men wore a beard dat were their noble custom; dey are Hebrew Israelites...
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BARUK: 2; 30-35...📢🔥
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Ignorance is a choice no longer forced upon... Knowledge has increased in this world, as it is written...
Ask Google/AI? What are da biblical name for da Dominican!? SIMEON...
So go tell ur master/handlers dat it is Uppp!!!...
Study to show urself approve; as it us also written...
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tribe of Yudah... 🦁
Here we cover about Arawaks/Tainos. The indigenous inhabitants of the Caribbean did not have beards or body hair.
Arawaks are not Israelites.
We know more today because of advancement in science, DNA and also the archeological record.
Please take your pseudo science elsewhere.
Not all Americans are black🙂. Also African Americans DNA make up is just as diverse if not more than most people of MOSTLY African descent in the Carribean/Central and South America.
Haitans have the most West/Central African DNA.
Now from a mindset Ill never go around saying Im "Afro Anglo or Afro Celtic". Most of us AAs will acknowledge their NA ancestry. You do know there were whole lot more tribes than Taino/Arawks in the Americas (Cherokee, Apache, Seminole, Lakota, Iroqiois, Blackfoot,etc).
Even up till modern times most biracials with one AA or West Indian parent was considered black. African Americans DID NOT come up with the one percent rule
Interesting 🤔
Hmm, its interesting to see as a Haitian. I know this conversation about whether dominicans are black or not is a common war between african americans and dominicans whereas Haitian culture is not like either one of those.
I say its accurate for the most part that dominicans identify more with their nationality than their race, I think that's the case for literally everybody outside of USA and several other anglo countries. But to say dominicans NEVER call each other by their race is also kinda lie bro. I went to DR already, I seen dominicans in the streets refer to other people a lot of times by their race to get their attention like "negro/negrito/moreno/rubia"etc and they have saying like "mejorar la raza" and being a black Dominican is seen shamefully and people call them Haitian (even when they clearly aren't). Dominican are not as obsessed with race as les États Unis , but they still are too obsessed in my opinion, maybe its what the american occupation did to them.
I know dominican dont like haitian, we have bad history, thats a whole different topic. But I think they should stop to disown their own dark skinned people and just accept the fact that a lot of them are afro-descent and no, if they're black it doesnt mean theyre haitain because we won't claim them if they dont have our culture. Haitians are not the only "black" people in the world.
I don't hate dominican btw, i don't have the enèji. but this is just what I have noticed from them.
Terms negro/negrito/Moreno/rubia etc are endearment terms.
Being Dominican is an idiosyncratic identity. Dominicans do not identify by color.
Dominicans do not like ethno centrics for reason of telling us how we should identify.
Beef between Dominicans and the Haitian ethnic group is rooted in social and economic implications. Evidence of this is in two of our historical manifestos.
The people of Haiti are an afro Franco ethnic group who were imported by the French during the 18th century.
The people of Haiti maternally L haplogroup and paternally E1B1 are African people with minimal European admixture.
Dominican people do not need outsiders to tell them how to identify.
@AntilleanFederation where does the phrase "mejorar la raza" come from and why do dominikèn say it. Explain bro, because in creole have no equivalent for this.
@@mixtapemania6769Haitian people are the Original Indigenous people just like most Black Americans. The only difference is the culture and forced European language.
@@c4tmh133 Stop it, we Haitian don't subscribe to this American idea of being indigenous people. We claim African descent and nothing else, maybe a little white. But we have very little indigenous blood, the Spanish wipe them out.
Love this.
Like myself, l prefer to connect with the people with similar genes and generations. Although it would not be totally false, to claim another group, my appearance would just cause ailaniation, insults and humilation. I think that if other people see my appearance as unsatisfactory to them, it's there problem, not mine.
Quite frankly personally I am more concerned about how to access better quality of life and services than whose likes or dislikes. This may be a set up that could spiral out of control. It's bad enough already. Divide and conquer it's called. All about psychology and the masses.
It's more realistic to respect other people's ethic idenity and culture. With an understanding that each ethnic group in the global community has a unique demographic history that reflects their history as a people.
I do not believe in victimization. Stay grounded in science and anthropology.
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Podéis no tener la cultura africana pero lucen mas africanos que europeos, al menos para los blancos de verdad
Only black people say this. And only black people claim the Dominicans are black. The rest of the world knows that is bs.
@@shay5839 yo soy europeo. El único que se cree blanco es el dominicano. Pero en cuanto llega a USA y europa le llaman negritos.
@@rosapink7384 Dominicans are not Black: we are an admixed ethic group and our idiosyncrasy represents our mixed idenity and culture. No need to troll.
Los dominicanos somos una gente, una cultura, no deseamos ser parte de la separacion de color. Chant: "Dios, patria y libertad!"
@@sue2cue pero qué dices!!!! El dominicano está tan acomplejado que tiene más de 30 denominaciones para definir su color de piel. Son africanos todos pero no quieren admitirlo
Also question, Pryor to the Spanish was the island called Quisqueya or Hayti?
Quisqueya and Haiti are toponyms or place name's for the island of Hispaniola. Quisqueya is a Ciguayo (a remnant of an earlier archaic group) word which came before the word Haiti a word by way of the Arawaks.
The word Haiti means literally it's high referring to a region.
Iñu - high (Garifuna, Palikur)
Ayoñ - high (lokojañ)
H prefixed into some Arawak words means something honorific like the Garifuna word hinsienti = to like.
Quisqueya -
Quis - obsidian or hard rock
Queya - island
Rocky or mountainous island.
My old video I explain about the place name's Quisqueya and Haiti.
ruclips.net/video/6kxkGOEyYXM/видео.html
@@AntilleanFederation thanks for the history, but again what was the island called by the Tainos? Because we agree it could have only had 1 name as Cuba & Boriken did right?
@@equitypark1865 the island has different place name's for each part of the island such as Magua and Higuey are also place name's or toponyms. The documented name for the entire island is Quisqueya. In Cuba and Puerto Rico they also have different toponyms or place name's describing the regions of the island. Get the book languages of the pre Columbian Antilles. There's some mistakes in that book but it explains what I'm talking about.
@@AntilleanFederation I’m sure there’s some mistakes. I’ve never read anywhere nor told by another Boriqua that there are different Taino names for our land.
Now it wouldn’t be possible that the original name is in fact Ayiti & Dominicans came up with a different name (Quisqueya) because they don’t want to identify with Haitians? That would be ridiculous right?
@@equitypark1865 the answer to that would be no. Quisqueya is a recorded toponym and as I already stated is a recorded Ciguayo word predating the toponym Haiti. The name Haiti being associated with Haitians came by way of Dessalines denouncing the French in 1804. Which is entirely a separate story.
Race, Nationality, Ethnicity.
Busquen a Juan Garrido!! Primer Africano Espańol en las Americas pero mas espańol y catolico que los espańoles.
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Juan Garrido joined a Spanish expedition and arrived in Santo Domingo (Hispaniola) about 1502. He participated in the invasion of present-day Puerto Rico and Cuba in 1508. In 1513, as part of Juan Ponce de Leon entourage in search of gold, the expedition landed in Florida. He is the first known African to arrive in North America.[3] By 1519, he had joined Cortes' forces and invaded present-day Mexico, participating in the siege of Tenochtitlan. He married and settled in Mexico City, where he was the first known farmer to have sowed wheat in America. He continued to serve with Spanish forces for more than 30 years, including expeditions to western Mexico and to the Pacific.[4]
Garrido had a brief stay in Hispaniola, and most of his time was spent in Mexico.
Has no merit in the topic discussed.
Bueno mi punto es que ay tanta cultura. De la hispana multiracial pero. Pero siempre prefieren poner al africano indígena en contra del espańol. Dime porque no ay nativos en el este delos estados unidos porque era una masacre. Los pocos que quedaron sob los de el oeste y florida del teritorio de espana navajo hopi etc. Gracias por la respuesta.
@@drg9339 that's an Afrocentric talking point my good friend. The African component is celebrated together with everything else within the idenity of Dominicans. Your response makes no sense.
@@AntilleanFederation In relation to your video my point is that. Yes being Dominican is a aglomeración of different cultures. Its heterogeneous in nature. For example Spain has north African influence it’s obviously intertwined in the culture and people. As opposed to the english that are a homogeneous culture anglo Saxon which mainly are of northern European racial ethnical groups. So Dominicans like many other hispanics have a history of embracing their other roots and racial patrimonies intertwining them in their cultures making them unique. I was trying to make the point that so called “blacks” are of a different ethnicity made from oppresive operandi, although similar in some extent. “Blacks” being marginalized to a greater extent because of the the refusal of the English to intermix and focus so much on race. Hence not seen as humans in most cases and treated as items. The spanish did intermix and marry and brought into the fold the cultures. Most hispanics can see their culture and mixing not only from the indigenous , africans, spanish, and moorish roots in the culture architecture and food. I guess i did not explain things right and went off topic in a broader sense. But yes i agree and am tired of being told what I am and not and the focus on race in this country and labels. English is my second Language. Of course we can go deeper. I guess thats why history is so important. Just wish you keep making videos and educate the young. Much love!
@@drg9339 I understand where you are coming from. There will be more videos in time just at moment I have been very busy with work and family stuff. But in response to your last comment. Each ethic group has different experiences that reflect how they view the current world view. Example the experience with Black Americans will not be the same as Dominicans in the Caribbean. We have an entirely different landscape that contributed in our evolution as an ethnic group. In order to get better a people you have to look at the conditions that help to fashion them the people they have become in the present. In the early days before the formation of Dominican Republic. While Spain abandon the Spanish side of the colony. It evolved into cattle ranching, meat and contraband trade. The sugar industry would not return until the end of 19th century. When poor decision making greatly out D.R. into debt leading to influences of foreigners in Dominican affairs. Before then racial views among Dominicans were relaxed up until the first U.S. occupation. We never had jim crow laws, and nor is there any recording of segregation. Unlike the racial tensions between blacks and whites in the states. Dominicans come in all color's. However mixing of north American views have obscure this fact.
Dominicans and African Americans are not black but different shades of brown, Dominicans are Spanish and African, some have more Spanish blood, While others have more African Blood, that’s why you have light and dark skinned Dominicans in the D.R., same goes for African Americans. Nobody needs to be ashamed of their bloodlines because we are created by God and he loves us all, and that’s all that really matters! The Human Race really is one big family! The truth will set you free! Take Care Family! Peace!
Action Jackson incorrect. Dominicans as an ethnic group are a mixed race ethnic group. We are entirely differentiated from black Americans, who have an entirely different history from us. Dominicans know who they are. The issue comes with other Ethno centrics telling how we should identify ourselves. There is a such thing in human migration called speciation. I highly recommend to check out Chief X on RUclips as he's one few that keeps it a 100 and is telling it as it is. Next 👍
@@AntilleanFederation Bro apart from Africans who are 100% black most of black people abroad have some type of European or native American in their DNA due to colonialism even Haitians for the most part have 5% to 1% European in their DNA. The thing is a north American who is at least 50% black like Drake for example will consider himself black but some Dominicans will deny their blackness even if a dna test would show that they are 80% for example
@@simpletrading04 wrong. Dominicans do not identify with being black because it is not a part of our idenity and does not reflect our history. Our idenity like other Caribbean Hispanics is idiosyncratic (reflecting our mixed idenity). Now in the case with Black Americans and the Haitian people they have an entirely different demographic origins from Dominican who have a Hispanic culture that evolved on the island. I recommend listening to Chief X on RUclips as he keeps it a 100. Moving forward now...
@@simpletrading04You’re Absolutely 💯 Right, They deny it Because they are ashamed of the African Part, But Me and you know the truth, I think some feel that way because they speak a different language,but so do Africans, some speak French, Portuguese etc, Even the Brazilians know that they have African in their bloodlines, the skin tone and some textures of the Dominicans hair will let you see the African part, but I said some have more Spanish blood and Some have more African, but they still have African in their bloodline, this fellow is just in Denial and don’t claim the African part. Look at this RUclipsr, and I see a person with more African blood than Spanish. I’m mixed myself, I’m African and European, I do not deny my bloodlines. We all come from Adam and Eve. Thank you for your comment.
@@actionjackson5759 wrong. Ethno centric talking points with no scientific basis. Fact's, over feeling's. You guy's are just being reactionary. Troll else where, moving forward. 👍 next
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They are confusing race and ethnicity and nationality
@Baman21 their comparison is very ethno centric in nature. It's not that complicated. Being Dominican is an idiosyncratic idenity. Color as a ethnic marker does not apply to Dominicans.
@@AntilleanFederation There is no Dominican box on the census in America....they check something. What do they check?
@Baman21 why are you so obsessed with Dominicans?🤔
We have a idiosyncratic idenity with a Hispanic culture that evolved on the island. Period. What's so difficult to comprehend?
@@AntilleanFederationwhy make a video and a statement if you don't want anyone talking about it. I never denied that Dominicans have a specific ethnicity or identity. I don't know why your silly video was on my feed....lol say less
@Baman21 the problem is with ethno centrics as yourself. Who refuse to respect the Dominican people and their identity. And comparing us to your identity and culture. Knowing very well we are not the same. As you see. Your response shows me that you are reactionary and low in consciousness. The presentation is pretty clear. You just refuse to get the picture. Such an irrational response. I expected better.
Although you look like me because of your skin complexion🤗 I agree with you we are not the same, I've never been so proud to be an American🇺🇸❤💯
Dominicans are a Hispanic ethnic group with a Hispanic culture that evolved on the island, in the Spanish speaking Caribbean.
We are entirely different from Black Americans in demographic, culture and linguistics. Going by looks is poor methodology.
Other ethnic groups should respect our ethic identity. Same as other ethnic groups, and their identity and culture should be respected.
Be proud of who you are and respect each person and each culture and understand there are differences amount us.
A burnt blue color blackAmerican would see a beige color Dominican, and say "oh he looks like me" 😂😂
@dontaejohnson5442 RUclips randomly erase or hides comments. That's beyond my control. I'm usually pretty fair and let comments stay posted.
No ones black actually
Then what is everyone? Society classifies everyone thru the lens of Black and White unfortunely, so if that is true what you said then no one is actually White either in the sense that they refer to themselves. People see each other FIRST by the color of the skin, then they try to match up the skin to the ethnicity then the culture. So your statement is wrong. There are so called Black people and White people and so on down the chain.
@parisparchment-we7pq ethnic classification by skin color has been since 20th century an North American phenomenon. This ties in to the one drop rule which is outdated and racist to the latter.
Color and ethnicity has been tied closely to the history of the United States, especially with people of African American descent.
Outside of the United States and the Western world groups outside do not equate identity and nationality on the basis of the color of someone's skin.
People of Hispanic descent identify with where they reside in place of skin color. For Dominicans these examples would be Dominicano/na, Quisqueyano, cibaeño/ña, etc. These are ethnic classifications for the Dominican people.
Ethnic classifications for Dominicans on the basis of color came by way of Americans during the early 20th century.
By this time Dominicans already had their ethnic classifications well established. As ours reflects 500 plus year evolution on the island as a young ethnic group.
El Dominicano es mas africano que Taino. Our DNA is 50 percent spain 40 African and 10 percent Taino.
Wrong. Dominicans inherit 70% European and North African lineages.
Comparing the maternal and paternal lineages (2017, 2020) show's that Dominicans are neither black nor white. Dominicans are an admixed ethnic group.
Dominicans are descendants of first contact interactions. Would be more accurate.
@@AntilleanFederation Compai usted es puro Moreno. Aceptalo , no tiene que ser negativo, have you done your DNA ancestry? Historically puerto ricans are 20 percent taino. Dominicans are only about 10. Me myself I was about 7 percent taino and 39 percent african with a 48 percent spain/Portuguese. With small percentages in other nations. Casi todo los dominicanos son negros pero tienen los cojones de decir "I'm not black" eso da Pena no niegen su decendencia.
Dominicans are black bro, stop it 🙄 even Tainos wouldn’t be considered “white” right? What’s so bad about saying IM BLACK! Smh
@equitypark by reading your response I can tell you are trolling and have no idea what your speaking about 🤔. Tainos are classified as being Arawakan. Dominicans are a multi racial ethnic group like other Caribbean Hispanics such as Cubans and Boricuas respectively. Quit with the colorist, victimhood mentality. Being Dominican is not about being black, nor is it about being white. Being Dominican is about being Dominican. It is an idiosyncratic idenity with culture and terms exclusive to Dominicans. As our identity reflects our evolution on the island. Sir 👍
@@AntilleanFederation I don’t troll SIR, what I’m telling you is same with Puerto Rico (my island) and yet we are PEOPLE OF COLOR, admit the truth, Dominicans are always afraid to say their BLACK. Cubans say it, Boriquas say it, why not Dominicans. YES WE ARE MIXED BUT EVEN THE TAINO (Arawaks) we’re dark we’re people of color. There’s more Dominicans who are really Haitian (BLACK) then Taino descended. And don’t tell me I’m wrong my wife is from DR my half brother is from DR plus I have a ton of friends who are from DR.
@@equitypark1865 Boricuas identify with being Boricua. As with Dominicans identify with being Dominican and Cubans with being Cuban. Our idenity in the Hispanic Caribbean has never been about representation under the notions of Color. They always fell in line with Love of the land in which they inhabit, human Values and spirit of Latin American independence. With that being said there is no evidence Caribbean Hispanics 🇨🇺🇩🇴🇵🇷 ethic idenity founded on color. We are mixed as you stated and our evolution in the Greater Antilles reflects this unique mixture. Tainos would not be classified as people of color. Tainos would be classified as Arawakan, belonging to a family derived from Northern South America. As we 🇨🇺🇩🇴🇵🇷 represent a mixture via post 1492 that gave rise to new ethic groups in the Hispanic Caribbean.
The people of Haiti emerged as an ethnic group on the island the result of series of revolts former enslaved people who were imported to the island by the French who had a brutal export economy.
The views you are expressing are new as they came by way of North America in the 20th and 21st century.
As a Dominican the people I been around with the most are Dominicans and Boricuas. And neither identify their ethic idenity by skin color.
@@AntilleanFederation none identify with the color of their skin?? Who are you kidding bro.
Genetics proves Black is the dominate gene yes? so in DR for example, most have nappy & kinky hair conspired to straight hair, darker skin colors (many BLACK because again many are truly Haitian) which means more melatonin in the skin which means they are not White/European. My point is yes we can acknowledge the European uses the color thing as a divide & conquer tactic, but once we acknowledge we are at least NOT WHITE/Spanish then we can begin removing the mental chains of waiting to be our oppressor, Which then we can identify who the real enemy is in our countries, and then TAKE back our countries as we saw in Cuba with Fidel.
What I’m trying to say is there’s always this fear of saying “we are not black” but why? Why be afraid to say proudly we are more related to the original man & women of this earth?
Do you see my point?
@@equitypark1865 your response sounds very Afrocentric to me. Are you sure your Boricua? What DNA show's is that Dominicans, just like Boricuas and Cubans we are ADMIXED. We have an idenity and Hispanic culture that reflects our evolution on the island. For example Dominicans in the Cibao will have a higher European percentage because they are descendants of Canary that never left the island when Spain abandoned us for three centuries. Dominicans never identified with being black or white for the latter. Dominicans regardless of skin tone all identify with being Dominican. Being Dominican has never been about skin color sir.
"Why be afraid to say proudly more related to the original man and women on this earth?"
Another unscientific talking point. You do know there's a such thing as evolution and speciation. As humanity migrated out of Africa they evolved and changed over time. Ethic idenity is defined by one's culture not ones skin color.
The Hispanic Antilles 🇨🇺🇩🇴🇵🇷 we all have our own speciation as Caribbean Hispanics. The only thing I have observed from your is 20th and 21st century idenity politics.
The topic is nonsense, black is not even a race or nationality, it’s more than anything the culture.
It is of importance. In North America (specifically the U.S.) black is associated with AA ethnic group. A reflection of the AA experience.
With that being said. Other ethnic groups do not use this as they have their own cultural merits.
So it becomes problematic when the term is imposed on a Hispanic ethnic group that does not associate with such.
As they have their own cultural merits, that uniquely represents their experience and Hispanic culture that evolved on the island of Hispaniola.
We have our own cultural merits and idenity that should be respected by others.
@AntilleanFederation Race and ethnicity are two different things. You can be a white Dominican or a black Dominican or a white hispanic or a black hispanic or white latino or black latino.
@Baman21 not a good response. Being Dominican, color has never been an ethnic marker. Being Dominican is a idiosyncratic idenity. Ethnic idenity associated with color is a North American phenomenon Mainly with Black Americans. It does not apply to Dominicans.
@AntilleanFederation you are failing to understand what AA are saying. In North America whites will classify you however they see fit. There is no Dominican box on the census. If you buy a gun in the US they have you check the race box and then they have you check wether you are hispanic or non hispanic. These people are classifying your race regardless of your ethnicity. These white folks colonized the world and its them who call you black. Black people are just letting you know that. Ironically in New York people often thought I was Dominican and Im black my mother is half black and half white. My point is if you get a ticket from a cop he checks wether you are white or black on the ticket doesn't he