संवाद # 97: How Pakistan has been exploiting PoK since 1947 | Ex-IFS officer Dinkar Srivastava
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
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Dinkar P. Srivastava joined the Indian Foreign Service in 1978. In 1993-94, as Director (UNP), he was part of successful Indian lobbying efforts against four Pakistani attempts to have resolutions on J&K adopted in UN General Assembly and UN Commission on Human Rights. He was involved in the drafting of National Human Rights Commission statute. As Joint Secretary (UNP), he participated in Indian lobbying efforts to contain the diplomatic fallout of the Pokhran II nuclear tests and prevent the internationalization of the J&K issue during the Kargil war (1999). He dealt with Indian candidature for permanent membership of the UN Security Council, UN Peace-keeping and Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism. He was a member of the Indian delegations to the World Conference on Human Rights in 1993, and the International Court of Justice in the case of Aerial Incident of 1999 (Pakistan v. India). In 2011-15, as Indian Ambassador to Iran, he negotiated the MOU for Indian participation in Chabahar Port.
His book 'Forgotten Kashmir: The Other Side of the Line of Control' examines the evolution of Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK) over the past seven decades. It includes major milestones like the 'tribal' invasion in 1947-48, the Sudhan revolt in the 1950s, the Ayub era, the Simla Agreement, the adoption of an 'Interim Constitution of 1974' and the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). You can order your copy here: www.amazon.in/Forgotten-Kashm...
0:00 Intro
2:11 How Pakis planned to occupy J&K
5:47 British officer who snatched PoK from India
7:41 The bitter truth of Karachi agreement
12:43 Pakistan's big fraud of 'provisional govt'
19:31 Why Britain gifted 85% PoK to Pakistan
26:14 Nehru's biggest blunder
34:00 Nehru's another blunder - Indus Water Treaty
37:02 How Pak loots PoK's waters
41:24 Not India but Pak is against plebiscite
43:06 1947 - Jinnah refused plebiscite
44:19 1950 - Liaquat Ali Khan refused plebiscite
47:21 1953 - Mohammad Ali Bogra refused plebiscite
49:15 Real reason why Pak feared plebiscite - atrocities
54:13 Benazir Bhutta explains why Pak fears plebiscite
56:19 Mass rapes by Pak army during Sudhan revolt
57:01 Democracy in PoK - Pak style
1:02:20 When Bhutto accepted the truth about PoK & UN
1:04:15 PoK's constitution - tool of Pak suppression
1:10:04 Why Zardari gave limited powers to PoK
1:10:58 PoK limited powers taken back again in 2018
1:13:09 Pak-China's plans to exploit PoK
1:17:32 China's dominance will increase in PoK
धन्यवाद श्रीवास्तव सर इतना बड़ा इतिहास इतने अच्छे से बताने के लिए, जिससे terroristan और अंग्रेजों का चापलूस नेहरू और अन्य गद्दारों के काले कारनामें हम भारतीयों को पता चला 🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏
Sirfaz bhai aapki baat sahi hai. Congress ki government ki dhilai sey sahi baat ko samney aaney hi nahin diya aur Pakistan apna khel kurta raha. Yeh hi sochney ki baat hai aur eismey Angrez bada khiladi thaa. Nehruji angrez ki baat jyada manthey thee yeh usi galti ka parinaam hai.
Bhai lugta hai ki yeh pura butwarey ka khel hi galut thaa. Yeh khel Angrezo ney jaan bhujker banaye. Angrez ki main policy fut daalker raj kerney wali thee uska shikaar hum log Congress key kaarun bun gaye.
ये सब अंग्रेजो का किया धरा था लेकिन समय अपना कार्य कर रहा। जल्द ही लाहौर के दृश्य लंदन में दिखाई देगा।
देश के स्वयंभू चाचा जान की गलती नहीं मक्कारी कहो।
जमिन और जमिर का बंटवारा करने वाले को पता चल गया है और सनातन धर्म की आवाज बुलंद करते हुये मोदी है तो ये मुमकिन है तो ये विश्व में मानवता धर्म की आवाज है !
It is beyond doubt that nehru was a foolish traitor.
He was more focus on many other women in the world thats y not focused. He actually took his job for Granted. Pathetic PM ever.
@arunsaxena- Traitor & Foolish don't go together. Traitor is never foolish. He's always extraordinary intelligent. But negative intelligence.
In terms of kashmir nehru was foolish but not a traitor (this is my opinion feel free to disagree).
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Not foolish but shrewd traitor.
The work of Narendra Singh Sarila, echoed by Dinkar ji as well as the Pakistani historian Ishtiaq Ahmed demonstrates that the entire nation of Pakistan was created merely as a tool for British strategy. Karma eventually catches up, no matter how much time it takes. Britain will someday face the consequences of their actions. In fact, given the mess that immigrants of Pakistani origin have wreaked upon Britain, one can safely say that they're already paying for it.
British,US & western power’s conspiracy to halt the then Soviet Union has not succeeded ( Russian invasion of Ukraine) . China has now replaced USSR in this region . Now the same nexus is trying to use Ukraine to confront Russia & India to counter China . Have we learnt from the past?
Very correct ! Those who have long been in glory don't just give away their holdings. They make arrangements to ensure their political requirements are not jeapardized. One way of doing it was first to have both party in power as well as the party in oppostion in their pockets
That colonial Britain is now America. The new Britain has quietly colonized most of the world, covertly rather. If not for this new Britain and its “generosities”, Pak would’ve ceased to exist decades ago.
Very true,karma is catching up on Britain very fast .
Britain is about to be taken over by Pakistanis. They already imposed a Sharia Zone in East London.
DINKAR JI IS TOP MOST EXPERT IN POK GB &JKL ISSUE.THANK YOU ARIHANTJI FOR INTRODUCING HIM TO US.
JAY HIND VANDE MATARAM
Washington: fought war for US freedom
China Mao: captured Tibet for China
Nehru: busy in Edwina Mountbatten
Bhai modi is also same...busy in photo ops and self glorification...
@@harshvardhanpathak6372thatswhy India became 5th largest economy from 11th. And is taking great leaps in every sphere possible
@@harshvardhanpathak6372 think a bit before typing...don't prove urself as an idiot in the comment section.
@@harshvardhanpathak6372 Yes bro Modi loses access to 26 out of 65 pp in eastern ladakh.
@@Ninja-rw1ls Bhai,,,situation is more bad,,,Even higher officials of army know mudji is just photo ops guy,,and they do not want to risk their post retirement political plans,so they never give real reports,Things are more screwed than mere 26 pp
Srivastava ji please translate this book into all Indian languages as well as Urdu! You will have more than enough funding!
Excellent analysis
पेगमबरवासी नेहरूजी ने गलती की ही नहीं, उन्होंने जानबुजकर ऐशा किया.
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Great voice with great analysis, Indus water treaty should be canceled now.
Excellent narration of facts. Must be part of NCERT text books.
kuch bhi 🤣 schools kids will learn POK war?? if you keep including such topics history text book will be 5000 pages
@@iXpress flat face Mughal ki padh ker kya kerna hai.. which is full of farce.. use to beheter ahi ki ye batai jaye
Indeed
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We need to tell everyone that we got Kashmir all because of Nehru while Sanghi BJP has been gifting land to Bangladesh and China.
Nehru has always worked in the interest of his international Image rather_than country's interest.😢
Indian Army always got grand victory against Pakistan since 1947
But unfortunately our congressi slaves leaders always lost the war on table talk against Pakistan leadership
Tum aur Modi ji Ab thik kar do ab
@@neogenesis_indicaTheek kar toh diya. Art. 370 abrogation ho gaya aur Pak ko surgical strike se jawab bhi diya.
This information must be added in history books of our schools so that our coming generations know about the matter.
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😊😊 you can surely add so many such topics like about nehru, vallabhbhai, subhash chandra, pakistan etc etc etc but we never think about our time in schools how we felt while studying history subject in classes. How many of us really focus on anything that was taught in history classes ?
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@@MsKavindra ইসলাম গ্রহণ হডঘ
@@MsKavindra ইসলাম গ্রহণ হডঘহফ
What great work Dinkar sir has done .
These books must be promoted by Indian government.
First viral this Sir opinion on Instagram then book become a popular.
@@Junckies_Video¹❤❤😂😂❤j
Nehru 's policies in Kasshmir were dictated by Sheikh Abdullah . Nehru did not let Sardar Patel handle Jammu and Kashmir although Sardar was looking after the integration of all other Princely States.
Very informative and enriching podcast with a learned and well informed person!!! Good work :)
The great historical facts can be learned and enlightened from this Channel. Great Work.. Kudos..
Arihant bhai,plz read books by Col Ajay Raina on 1947-48 war. He has written a book series on it. If possible,invite him, he's a really insightful person on anything Kashmir. He's from Jammu. I know him personally
I was just about to recommend arihant sir about inviting Ajay Sir, thanks for mentioning 👍🏻
Can you please share the name of the book
@@debosguitar
1. Unholy Jihad: A true story from Kashmir
2. Kashmir narratives: muths vs facts
3. In the nick of time: saving Kashmir 1947-48
@@BeE_AriyaN thank you
@@BeE_AriyaNmuths🤣🤣
First class classification of the hidden history . Hat's off for such programme. Continue this endeavor. Waiting for such like interview. Thanks a lot.
Excellent narrative and analysis.
General Kulwant Singh was overall in charge / commander of Indian military operations in Kashmir in 1947. 48. He is referred to as the saviour of Kashmir. Gen Kulwant Singh was one of the Founders of our Sainik School. Once ,during a meeting with our School's students ,Gen Kulwant Singh shared his anguish. He said , ' Till this day I cannot understand the reasons why , when we were about to retake Muzaffarabad , PM Nehru ordered us to stop . ?
Nehru also stopped the war against China in 1962 and the Indian Army lost the war. He has not used the Navy and Air Force.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv Sir Namaskaar Well said
Nehru should be tried for treason & Bharat Ratna also should be withdrawn.
@@r.m.bhoopathybhoopathy4166 Sir OK
Nehru can only be operating under restrictions as a condition of independence to satisfy British and other Western nation's strategic security interests.
Salute to dinkar saab 👏👍
Indus Water treaty ko khtam Karna Chahiye
China bhi Tibet se paani rok sakta he
Its not possible because nehru has made world bank as third party of the contract " 😮
This episode was disturbing to hear ,but the beautiful voice of the guest somehow made this bearable. Good work 🙏🏽
Exactly, my thoughts too and I believe of lot of others! So, much of injustice has happened to us and we didn't even knew
@@IncredibleNeo how unfortunate for us
All the programmes on this channel are logical and very good. Arihant bhai very nice.
After Shimla Agreement with zulafkar Ali Bhutoo ,they Launched Operation Topac in Kashmir and Kargil War should also be mentioned.including operation Gulmarg after Tashkand agreement.terrorism exodus of minorty etc.
However virtually all agreements with Pakistan political party failed. Because it is proved governance of Pakistan's is ruling by military establishment.
Simla Treaty turned Indian Victory into A Defeat. It was done by Nehru's daughter.
32:00 ‘Slender was the thread’ written by Lt Gen Sen who was chasing the Pakistan tribals and was to capture Muzzafarbad after Uri was captured is worth reading. He needed just one day and whole of Kashmir would have been with India.
Not at all....I have read that book....he spoke about the lack of equipment,forces, heavy artillery, terrain .....we were in no position to kick out them except for a full scale war as regular Pakistani army had entered the fray....even Kargil, Drass etc could be captured but using tanks....we couldn't even reinforce (let alone liberate) Skardu despite three attempts
@@nit23sharma So you don’t agree with Mr Dinkar?
@Gurmohan Singh ....bro , apart from this I have read raiders in kashmir by Akbar khan (which Mr dinkar also refers)....and you can corroborate what I have said from these books.....in fact we had to withdraw from Kotli (18km from LOC) and Haji pir in 47 due to logistical and other issues.....we had made good progress in baltistan but couldn't consolidate our gains in 65 or even 71 ...despite taking 5 villages of turtok
When Pak. was shrewd ,cunning, cheating on agreement with India, why not India did not do the same to them?
Thank you so much for sharing the facts with us. 🙏❤️🙏
We lost those areas for ever because of Nehru and Mountbatten.
Nehru and Lady Mountbatten
British never wanted A link between. India and RUSSIA
Through Afghanistan.
Good conversation
कृपया जब नाम और पद दिखाते हैं तो हिंदी में भी दिखाएँ।
सुंदर कार्यक्रम। 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Pakiatani Punjabi Army : BLUNDER PLUNDER SURRENDER😂
चाचा चुना लगा के चले गये 💯
Thank all concerned for bringing unknown facts in the public domain.
our new generation teenagers understanding truths truths truths truths truths truths truths about our bravery, boldness , goodness cultural heritage, high thinking, moral values & traditional values Sanskar-Sanskriti respecting values carring forward supporting suchness suchlike BEAUTIFUL BEAUTY anoopkumar arora
What do want to convey my dear friend.
हमे इन बातों से क्या करना , हमारा था pok इसलिय लेना था जो अब लेंगे।
Thank you so much for this podcast!
सच में दुःख है और क्रोध भी।
Agree +
India must make movie based on it but production level should be of RRR standards
Maslla ye J n K
Extremely anguished that our own history is not taught in our books. Glad we have you tube now so we can get some knowledge not available in mainstream
पहली बार कई बातों का पता चला
Fantatics Podcast on Kashmir Issue --- thanks to Dinkar Srivastava Ji for cleaRing so many foubts 😊🙏
This channel is a hidden gem.
Haha in this entire episode name of nehru was used once..but his name was on thumbnail...the officer was full of insight n loved d show...but d narrative which was needed by channel was missed.. hope to see such balanced person more on ur show.. jai hind
This guest has a very sonorous voice.
Great podcast
Nice discussion 🔥🔥🔥
We should stop harping on Nehru mistakes.Yes he erred and that has hurt us.But even as a hard-core Modi fan I think we should now concentrate on the present and the future in this case.We were a new nation at that time with enemies on two sides.We will do well to protect what we have now.And we are doing that now.Yes Panditji did make mistakes but that is gone now.We have a very good PM today.Let us strengthen his hands today and save this country from the likes of Pappu,Tipu,Nirmamata and the communists! Jai Hind.
Every Kashmiri should see this
I am watching from Azad Kashmir my black lindustani dog 🇮🇳🤣🤣💪💪💪💪
Thanks a lot!
Very informative interview.
Good interview!
Guest spoke and the interviewer listened.
One more episode Sir..❣️❣️
Informative video!!
Truth needs to come out.
Very interesting and Infomative.
Nehru has done more harm than good 😡
ये सारी बातें सुनकर एक ही बात समझ में आयी...चाचा ही original पप्पु था। राहुल तो सिर्फ family tradition को आगे बढ़ा रहा हैं
When Subhash asked for dictator ship after independence, gandhi and Nehru condemned it, but Nehru become sudo dictator, for many international decisions he never try to take consent from cabinet, including going u.n for kashmir issue, Patel tried to stop him, but he closed door of akashwani for Patel. These are puppet of Britishers, acted like foolish king on the name of democracy.
सच्चे सिख हमारा ही परिवार है। आपके बच्चे हम सबके परिवार के ही हैं।
Informative
मुझे लगता है जनरल ब्राउन के साथ गद्दा नेहरू भी मिला हुआ था ।
Very good information thank you
Comprehensive assessment and valuable information.
Dhanyavad Ji
Just superb!! 👌👌👌
मेरी आयु 78 साल है। आपको देखकर लगता है देश का भविष्य उज्जवल है । लम्बी उमर मिले ।
Why did PAKISTAN abrogated SSR law in GILGIT BALTISTAN in 1974. But questioning INDIA'S abrogation of temporary Articles of 370 & 35A. ❤️🇮🇳🪔
Very nice hopeful supporting
Congratulations your presentation seemed very polished
Great man
jabardast conversation
Nice and valuable information
Great....
Thank you Vaad sir for you introduce Respected .Ex=IFS.
We are live in Azad kashmir ,
1947 it is the Azadi fight wich was fight in kashmir .
So we proud on this .because we hot frerdom from Dogra Army amnd mahraja Army .
Now we are living peacefully in Aad kashmir .
And struggle will contine till whole freedom of kashmir .
Inshallah .✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
You should also invite Dr. Amjad Ayub Mirza as well, hailing form Mirpur PoJK, he know a lot of truth especially from 27 October 1947 to March 1948 related to PoJK & GB including Mirpur holocaust of 25-26 November 1947 & SSR(State subject rule)
So impactful; yet hardly much impact upon me for the reasons being enumerated separately!
An Impactful sincere attempt 👌🌺
Excellent analysis of the situation, sir. All in all, what the facts are the time has come for Modi government to take over PoK, Gilgit and Baltistan. It should be done no later than Jan. ‘24.
Thanks aapne Sachi batai you are great.jai hind.
Very informative. Thanx 👍
Nehru O Nehru.. what kind of curse you turned out to be for india and especially for kashmir.
Nehru did lot of blunders but those blunders alone do not define him.
@@IncredibleNeo did you even watch the interview? The number of opportunities Nehru lost to get back POK
@@vamsikrishna3855 POK is not the only thing that we needed post 1947. Nehru built lot of institutions and most importantly ensured that there was no room for Army to stake a claim to govern india. He also ensured that we had constitution where Hindus alone do not feel safe but also all minorities.
@@IncredibleNeo yeah as though Nehru was teaching Hindus how to be tolerant. Like india never was tolerant before Nehru. Like no other community ever settled and lived peacefully until Muslims came. Yeah Nehru conjured peace from his ass.
nice analysis...
Very good 👍
Sir, why don't we include real story in our books. The truth prevails. Our failures should be corrected. Jai Hind. There are some truthful real insight stories at Ruchika Prakashan, Jhandewalan, N. Delhi.
This was a major blunder by Nehru to stop Indian Army and going to UN for Kashmir which was already signed to India by Maharaja Hari Singh ji.
This is the sin of their founder why he died in a miserable way.Karma which is still haunting them.
A very valuable national information and great follies committed by our erstwhile PM.Nehru remained hidden from the public yet to be resolved and reactified by the present rulers.
Invite Prakhar Shrivastava about his book Hey Ram
सर जी आपके इंटरव्यू शानदार होते हैं
Unknown and untold history 👍
😢 I am so angry and disturbed to hear the events of torture. Remember my parents used to narrate it when we were kids. It didn’t get registered that time but now I wonder with disgust How can one not support your own but enemies?
Thanks sir Namaste
Very good job
Ambassador DP Srivastava is a jewel.. amazing personality to represent India in various countries.
The mindset of Pakistanis has not changed since 1947 when the victorious Muslim League having got Pakistan used to raise the slogan : HANS KAR LIYA PAKISTAN - LAR KAR LENGEY HINDUSTAN .
Pakistan has to , perpetually , remain in an Anti India mode to justify Pakistan's raison detre / its continued existence as a separate country.
Major Brown was Capt when brig Gansara Singh governor was taken prisoner in Nov.1947. Till Nov,1947, Gilgit Baltistan was held by lt col. Thapa of Maharaja forces. In nov, he withdrew as reinforcements from India did not come. So this area was given on a platter to Pakistan.