"I'm youtubeing stuff constsntly"... I'm glad I'm not the only one doing that (as I'm literally sitting down, eating a bowl of ramen and watching this youtube video hoping to learn something for my small job shop)
insane. I would never buy a robo that expensive! you could buy a DMG dmu 95 with like $100k worth of tooling and $100k worth of vices and benches and whatnot for less than 800k??? perhaps if you have a need to a ton of small parts and whatnot it might be worth it. Robos have their place. I worked on them for 2 years. They are fast but not very rigid or much power. you have to utilize dynamic toolpaths (mastercam) or whatever it's called in fusion. Adaptive clearing i think.
So the sticker price was $515k which included 65k in work holding and 14k in tooling. The 800k is once you include all the interest and property taxes over the next 5 years, along with software to operate it. Every machine purchase is very specific to the shop and type of work. What that DMG could not do is smash out 60 hours of work every weekend with no one in the shop. It can't run throughout the night, while the shop is empty. If you start to calculate all of the available working hours, of this automated machine. You can not push the volume of work through the DMG that this Robo can blow through. Along with the fact that per your example of 200k in vises/tooling you would be at a minimum of 800k after financing for that DMG 95. Thanks for following along and contributing to the discussion.
@@ConourManufacturing yea i worked at a shop that had about 7 robos. About 4 of them had a larger pallet system that was the entire work table swap out. I think it was m65 to change pallets if I recall correctly. 1 had a larger 4th axis to put a rotary fixture for small parts like what I would imagine you are going to run. 1 didnt even have the high speed machining option so dynamic toolpaths were a no go on that one. I see what you are getting at. It really depends on the parts and the customers. Although I see why people do that style of tabbing the part "window machining" as you called it. A lot of parts I have made wouldn't be good to do that. The parts do move and flex a bit so any datum features are not a good idea to finish that way. One of my co workers did something like that then glued a block to the parts and cut them dry to remove the part in 1 op. I was not a fan and called it the kamikaze maneuver. My dmg scenario was more of an extreme example. I didn't realize your cost was interest and taxes for 5 years. I really liked the DMG CMX 50u that I was running for the last 2.5ish years or so. Different parts though. All for a large aerospace company. All prototype with lot sizes rarely exceeding 10 parts. Any machine can have a robot arm or pallet system added. All cnc's have some type of auxiliary code. I have even seen HAAS rotaries inside robo drills. The rotary just waited for the auxiliary output then it did its thing. I remember running one of the robo's at like 15k rpms and 500ipm haha. It was so loud and fun. Nobody was at the shop, I was there all alone all weekend. This setup reminds of how @JohnGrimsmo has his kern setup. Good luck!
I figure the clients I am handing it to, know me well. I am honestly bad at self promotion and sales. It seemed like too much at the time I was programming the part. It might change in the future. Thanks for watching!
@@ConourManufacturingI'm thinking particularly when / if they gift it or show it to someone else, they can see your logo / business name and go from there. Saves them having to spell your last name / business name, etc. Look forward to seeing more.
65 total tool pockets. 1 tool pocket has to stay empty in the turret, so the robot can pull from the addition tools if necessary. So 64 working tools can called up at any given time.
@@engineeredtoast it all depends on the work you have. Most of the companies buying this machine are multimillion dollar companies (I am not). They have contracts in place abd the machine pays for itself in less than a year. While just running a part or a specific family of parts.
@@ConourManufacturing I currently work for a small job shop so I was just wondering about how long it would take for someone small, not a multimillion dollar company.
I am using a "camplete post". Meaning I am not posting from Fusion to the machine in the traditional sense. I post from Fusion into Camplet, it then generates the Gcode that I post to the Robodrill. I have heard that DSI have some good Fusion 360 posts that work well for the 5th axis RoboDrills. I could connect you, with them if you would like.
The poor man's Kern costs about as much as a regular man's actual Kern... And yeah, like others mentioned, please fix the audio levels and balance. The entire video was like 90% left ear. Kick it into mono if you don't want to mess with it, not much stereo needed here.
2nd $800,000 video ??? You seem to come across as a fairly humble sort of guy. But, your thumbnail will attract people looking for an argument ?? Maybe you want that sort of attention, I don't know. I only say this because it seems like you enjoy posting videos. I have watched a couple of smaller channels like yours start off with the best intentions only to get sick of the negative bullshit that's so common with anti social media ??? It's totally your choice of course how you run your channel. Only my thoughts ?? Try to stay away from Shock Media that's so common on RUclips. I'm not sure about others. When I see these channels, I never want to see them again. Keep it real without the need for a Pierson Workholding script ????? Thanks for bringing us along for another video 👍
Ya man it's tough to get people to click on a video, without a crazy title. I am just try to show the costs associated with automation. Only 10% of American manufacturers utilize robots. 90 plus percent of them arw million plus dollar companies. Very few small family owned job shops have tried it. Just trying to document the journey. Thanks for watch and thanks for the feed back.
Tool life in some applications. They'll probably see the benefits with lights out machining. I guess another benefit is that evaporation isn't a concern, but oil mist is. At about 10x the cost of water soluble coolant they definitely want to keep it in the machine.
@@jonathantaylor2584 you are correct. The biggest reason is for the lights out, long unattended run times. Tool life, and the life of the machine are the next two reasons.
Please, do not turn your channels into "Discovery channel" crap. Yeah yeah I get it, you liked Orange County Choppers, Mythbusters etc.. but that's TV crap. RUclips crap is best viewed when down to earth.
"I'm youtubeing stuff constsntly"...
I'm glad I'm not the only one doing that (as I'm literally sitting down, eating a bowl of ramen and watching this youtube video hoping to learn something for my small job shop)
You are deffintly not alone! Thanks for watching!
Wicked cool machine and nice looking parts. Nice to see new machining channel.
Thank you! We are going to try and keep them short yet informative.
@@ConourManufacturing short or lengthy doesn’t matter as long as I am learning and moving forward. Thanks again!
Dang super cool piece of equipment!
Thanks Devil Dog!
Thanks for the update, cant wait to see what you are up to next :) That is one crazy productive machine when it gets going
Thank you so much. Waiting for the right production job that I will be able to record for you guys.
insane. I would never buy a robo that expensive! you could buy a DMG dmu 95 with like $100k worth of tooling and $100k worth of vices and benches and whatnot for less than 800k??? perhaps if you have a need to a ton of small parts and whatnot it might be worth it. Robos have their place. I worked on them for 2 years. They are fast but not very rigid or much power. you have to utilize dynamic toolpaths (mastercam) or whatever it's called in fusion. Adaptive clearing i think.
So the sticker price was $515k which included 65k in work holding and 14k in tooling. The 800k is once you include all the interest and property taxes over the next 5 years, along with software to operate it.
Every machine purchase is very specific to the shop and type of work. What that DMG could not do is smash out 60 hours of work every weekend with no one in the shop. It can't run throughout the night, while the shop is empty. If you start to calculate all of the available working hours, of this automated machine. You can not push the volume of work through the DMG that this Robo can blow through. Along with the fact that per your example of 200k in vises/tooling you would be at a minimum of 800k after financing for that DMG 95. Thanks for following along and contributing to the discussion.
@@ConourManufacturing yea i worked at a shop that had about 7 robos. About 4 of them had a larger pallet system that was the entire work table swap out. I think it was m65 to change pallets if I recall correctly. 1 had a larger 4th axis to put a rotary fixture for small parts like what I would imagine you are going to run. 1 didnt even have the high speed machining option so dynamic toolpaths were a no go on that one. I see what you are getting at. It really depends on the parts and the customers. Although I see why people do that style of tabbing the part "window machining" as you called it. A lot of parts I have made wouldn't be good to do that. The parts do move and flex a bit so any datum features are not a good idea to finish that way. One of my co workers did something like that then glued a block to the parts and cut them dry to remove the part in 1 op. I was not a fan and called it the kamikaze maneuver. My dmg scenario was more of an extreme example. I didn't realize your cost was interest and taxes for 5 years. I really liked the DMG CMX 50u that I was running for the last 2.5ish years or so. Different parts though. All for a large aerospace company. All prototype with lot sizes rarely exceeding 10 parts. Any machine can have a robot arm or pallet system added. All cnc's have some type of auxiliary code. I have even seen HAAS rotaries inside robo drills. The rotary just waited for the auxiliary output then it did its thing. I remember running one of the robo's at like 15k rpms and 500ipm haha. It was so loud and fun. Nobody was at the shop, I was there all alone all weekend. This setup reminds of how @JohnGrimsmo has his kern setup. Good luck!
Just wondering if you looked at/priced a Matsuura MAM72? @@ConourManufacturing
Agreed, this guy got ripped off hard, simply paying for a brand = Poor business management
Great video Shawn! Thank you for sharing!
Yeeeeew nice work dude! Cant wait to see some of the trick parts coming off this machine! Keep it rolling!
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
We need to see more! This is sick
Thank you! More to come!
Great video. Go pro on the robot arm was a great idea.
I would love to see that machine running aluminum but with raw audio instead of music.
We will make that happen! We are going to mic up the inside of the machine in a future video. Thanks for the idea
Awesome video and machine. You have a new subscriber.
Thank you so much! We appricate you following along.
Love the robodrill, absolute beast of a machine! Cool design for a bottle opener.
No logo or brand name on the widget?
I figure the clients I am handing it to, know me well. I am honestly bad at self promotion and sales. It seemed like too much at the time I was programming the part. It might change in the future. Thanks for watching!
@@ConourManufacturingI'm thinking particularly when / if they gift it or show it to someone else, they can see your logo / business name and go from there.
Saves them having to spell your last name / business name, etc.
Look forward to seeing more.
@@aarondcmedia9585 you are absolutely correct, I will work on that. Thanks man.
This is fascinating. What kind of hand cleanup was required to get the tabs off?
Just a quick kiss on a belt sander and a sanding block. Then they go into the tumbler, before going to ano.
I like the vid! Good luck man!
Normaly we dont sell machines for Build stuff for Guns Or Military stuff! Oh now i See its a Häberle! You buy the best 🎉
It is a beautiful machine!
wtf Cherry punch as coolant? I'm guessing this was mentioned in a previous video so I'll check it out.
Looking forward to future shop updates.
Thanks man! Ya it's Hagsterfer's Cutting Oil NG 22 CF
Nice work
Keep it up 👍
Thank you 🙏🙏
where did you learn to operate this cnc milling machine?
Working in a shop, learning on the job.
very good afternoon, excellent video, a question, can this robodrill equipment make dental prostheses and implants?
Yes, they are used in the medical word. Thanks for watching
Great content, but please for the love of God tone it down with the music intermisions. I almost spilled a tea all over my self at 5 minute mark
How many tools on the tool changer of that Robodrill? Surely more than the standard number?
65 total tool pockets. 1 tool pocket has to stay empty in the turret, so the robot can pull from the addition tools if necessary. So 64 working tools can called up at any given time.
Where do I get the poor man’s kern sticker?!
Good job
Thanks Gary!
Whose coolant are you using in there?
Hangsterfer's cutting oil. NG 22 CF, I love it so far!
If you don't mind me asking, how long do you think it will take you to pay this off?
Probably 4 to 5 years. In a perfect world 3 years or sooner pending the right kind of work.
@@ConourManufacturing that's sooner than I thought, thanks a lot for the answer!
@@engineeredtoast it all depends on the work you have. Most of the companies buying this machine are multimillion dollar companies (I am not). They have contracts in place abd the machine pays for itself in less than a year. While just running a part or a specific family of parts.
@@ConourManufacturing I currently work for a small job shop so I was just wondering about how long it would take for someone small, not a multimillion dollar company.
What post are you using?
I am using a "camplete post". Meaning I am not posting from Fusion to the machine in the traditional sense. I post from Fusion into Camplet, it then generates the Gcode that I post to the Robodrill.
I have heard that DSI have some good Fusion 360 posts that work well for the 5th axis RoboDrills. I could connect you, with them if you would like.
Sick sticker! Can I get one 🙏🏼👀
Yes shoot me an email. Shawn.Conour@gmail.com
The poor man's Kern costs about as much as a regular man's actual Kern...
And yeah, like others mentioned, please fix the audio levels and balance. The entire video was like 90% left ear. Kick it into mono if you don't want to mess with it, not much stereo needed here.
We will definitely fix that next time. Thanks for watching!
What's that cutting fluid? Looks like the negroni I just drank haha
Hangsterfer's Cutting oil NG 22 CF
The best cutting oil on the market baby!
2nd $800,000 video ???
You seem to come across as a fairly humble sort of guy.
But, your thumbnail will attract people looking for an argument ??
Maybe you want that sort of attention, I don't know.
I only say this because it seems like you enjoy posting videos.
I have watched a couple of smaller channels like yours start off with the best intentions only to get sick of the negative bullshit that's so common with anti social media ???
It's totally your choice of course how you run your channel.
Only my thoughts ??
Try to stay away from Shock Media that's so common on RUclips.
I'm not sure about others.
When I see these channels, I never want to see them again.
Keep it real without the need for a Pierson Workholding script ?????
Thanks for bringing us along for another video 👍
Ya man it's tough to get people to click on a video, without a crazy title. I am just try to show the costs associated with automation. Only 10% of American manufacturers utilize robots. 90 plus percent of them arw million plus dollar companies. Very few small family owned job shops have tried it. Just trying to document the journey. Thanks for watch and thanks for the feed back.
Please look into the clipping of your microphone for future videos; it's pretty rough for headphone users.
It's a work in progress, we will continue to improve and refine the prosses.
Debt is leverage
The cool thing about being 800k in debt is that someone is betting on you making almost a million dollars ❤
@@philliportiz1112 I sure hope they are right!
@@ConourManufacturing I believe it
But…. Why oil🤷♂️
Tool life in some applications. They'll probably see the benefits with lights out machining.
I guess another benefit is that evaporation isn't a concern, but oil mist is. At about 10x the cost of water soluble coolant they definitely want to keep it in the machine.
@@jonathantaylor2584 you are correct. The biggest reason is for the lights out, long unattended run times.
Tool life, and the life of the machine are the next two reasons.
Please, do not turn your channels into "Discovery channel" crap. Yeah yeah I get it, you liked Orange County Choppers, Mythbusters etc.. but that's TV crap. RUclips crap is best viewed when down to earth.
We are going to keep it as real as humanly possible. Thanks for watching!
... So not Titan 😂