I just can't believe that this kind of content that you both create it's free and available to everyone! Thank you very much for your hard and awesome work!!
Sabine is our shepherd, we lack nothing. She make us lie far from bad Science. She refreshes our souls, she guides us along the right paths. 😊 Well played, Joe! You completely represent us.
Nobody is my shepherd ... as best I can I do my own research, my own analyses, and come to my own conclusions. (And sometimes my results concur with those of others, oh wow!)
I knew I was going to enjoy this. Sabine is a great content creator and author and I really enjoy her work... Just as much as I enjoy Joe's work just in different ways. Perfect combination that I just could not miss. Thanks Joe!
I'm a huge fan of Sabine Hossenfelder and always enjoy hearing her insights. She's taught me to ponder the fundamental questions of physics in a more informed way. Moreover, she also brings deeply creative and original views on the human dimensions of our world. Such a beautiful mind!
Cool to see how two of the best science communicators around, have so many things in common while approaching things from very different backgrounds. That gives me hope for humanities future
Hi Joe - Yes Sabine is a great scientist and a great communicator as well. (I can't help referring to Richard Feynman when it comes to talking about communicators). But your stuff about "How Electricity Actually Works" was also pretty much top notch. So thnx Joe and Sabine for your great work 🤗
Maybe not scientist, but definitely a science communicator. The best teacher is not the person who is doing cutting edge research, but instead the person who struggled through it and understands what is commonly misunderstood.
@@EarthCreature. *shakes head* huh? how'd you get that from... nevermind. Is it possible she was just trying to highlight facts and you're virtue signaling? I consider myself a trans-ally. and sometimes we have to ask ourselves if science communicators are asking tough questions with the express purpose of advancing our understanding of a topic. I know its a very touchy topic for all sides right now but we have to avoid going all cancel culture or we risk becoming the problem rather than fixing one.
She was showcasing debunked and old research and didn't really engage properly with the science available today, while also falling for some right-wing and TERF political talking points that intentionally twist the narrative. That video made doubt her as a scientist - if you completely fail to properly assess your data, it casts a bad shape on all of your work in the academic field. And she made some jokes in it that were extremely distasteful.
@sertaki I wondered. When she stepped out of her field of expertise. I trust her with maths, physics, space stuff but stepping into the complicated world of politics, gender & identity which maths isn't good for.
@@thoughtfuloutsider I wonder how much of that was simply her failing to do proper research and how much was her using the platform to showcase her own political beliefs. Taking the nature of some of the jokes into account that she made in her video on transgender issues ... I fear it may be a deliberate choice. I would much rather have to doubt her academic process than find out that one of the top science communicators is a bigot, honestly. But seeing how she has not reviewed her video in any shape or form in reaction to being called out on the mistakes she made (and the falsehoods she pushed) , it leaves two options: 1. She is aware of the mistakes but does not want to admit to them (which would mean she is not a good scientist, rather choosing to keep wrong information out in the open than to admit to an error) 2. She is intentionally spreading misinformation because she is transphobic. Judging by the sheer size of her fanbase and how extremely bigoted the comment section under that video was, there is no way she is unaware of the criticism that was quickly levied against her by people like Rebecca Watson. She would have without doubt gotten thousands of emails by her fanbase alerting her to it. And I have not yet even looked at her newer video titled "Why is everyone suddenly neurodivergent?" ... I fear it's equally lacking in proper research and may be perpetuating talking points that pathologize neurodivergent people in outdated ways. I would not be surprised if there was a call for donations to "charities" like "Autism Speaks" in the video description. And it's extremely disappointing that I expect this now, since before her telling descent into anti-trans rhethoric, I would not have doubted her integrity. I very much hope I am wrong regarding her take on neurodivergency.
Sabine is my favorite celebrity scientist. She actually understands the philosophy of science. Most scientists are very poor philosophers, and it gets them in a LOT of trouble. Especially once they start to talk outside the science and into the gobbeldygook.
"It is just an engineering problem." Very well. I'm starting the math. Joe, I've been subscribed to Sabine far longer than you. I understand (perhaps) half of what she says, but she has a wicked sense of humour. You made my day. Thank you.
Hi Joe. Sabine and yourself are far and beyond my favourite two RUclips CC's. This was a lovely chill discussion. Thank you both for doing this and hope to maybe see some collaborations in the future???
Joe and Sabine . What a coup. Mop Dr. Sabine is an amazing woman. She is so smart. She is the #1 scientist whom I would like to meet and maybe play some music with. Both Joe and Sabine are engaging , and so much fun to watch .
I love this introduction about 'gobbeldygook'. For even the simplest scientific papers, scientists try to sound 'scientific' by using their own jargon rather than describing stuff in words that non-scientists (like me) can understand. How refreshing it would be to read a medical paper about 'bruising' instead of 'ecchymosis'!
Thank you for the interview Joe. Sabrine is a very funny and interesting scientist. I try to watch all her videos, and I recommend everyone else to do it to.
@@EarthCreature. what? I have no clue if she is anti-trans. She is a brilliant mathematician and physicist. She speaks truth to physicist who are lost in their own ideas and won’t except the truth of their failures (string theory, multiverse, etc..). Don’t presume to know why someone is a fan of someone or something. Even if she agrees or disagrees with beliefs I have or don’t, it doesn’t take away from her brilliant mind.
I would absolutly watch videos about medicine from sabine!! And other topics she's interested in!! Without QUESTION!! PLEASE!! Do this! I can't wait for you to release the first one! :D
I love the way Sabine condenses a topic and delivers a balanced summary. She is never one-sided. She did the best job of communicating the trans issues (and non-issues about it) that I've seen. She strikes the right balance between being able to get a message across and having technical and objective content.
@@alexwoodhead6471 But you shouldn't trust her on medicine(or any topic except here niche in physics). That's the entire point. It's ridiculous to think that she can get complex subjects "right" by doing a few days of research. That kind of blind trust, just because, well you trust her, is exactly the problem with misinformation.
Very nice talk. One thing to remember with the 'how long until X?' Technological inventions/progress isn't always linear(or a proper curve). The Romans had a steam engine device ~50 BCE. A cool toy but it seemed useless because they had slave labor to do the heavy lifting. AI/Machine learning will accelerate the progress of many industries, but without hindsight, you can't tell if ur going down the right path.
Getting things wrong is part of the process of doing science. It's why we have a process of doing science. Trying to cover up and deny mistakes is wrong.
Great to see you two discussing these topics together (2 of my fave YT creators) and some really good questions from Joe. Thanks to you both! Not as many views as it should have, probably down to the YT algorithm - I'm subscribed to both Joe's and Sabine's other channels but I was shown this video for the first time just yesterday. Hope my view, the thumbs up and this comment helps this video to reach others.
I'm so envious of Joe getting to have this conversation. I enjoy Sabine's take on pretty much everything, especially when she plays devil's advocate across from other physicists.
Would love to see you two do a second round to talk about how you both use humor and gags in your approaches to science communication - maybe get a little meta about the role of humor in general in discussing serious/complex issues? (Plus I'd love to hear Sabine talk about how her music vids fit into the rest of her amazing work - they're pretty awesome)
I discovered she did music videos at 16:06 in THIS video! Wow! I checked it out in another tab. Music aside, the two of you are both great science communicators. I love watching both of you. Good interview.
I actually have read some of Sabines books and followed her channel for a long time and I'm not in academia at all and just an enthusiast. I rely on Sabines input into some of the big questions hype because she is such a good skeptic, but I would bet the reason why so many people reach out to her for everything or questions about the theory of everything is most people don't know how specialized physics is. Just like in the trades there are people who specialize in just drywall, or just HVAC and even in the trade of HVAC there are commercial or refrigeration or geothermal etc. I must admit, when I think about physics and astrophysics and quantum mechanics I can get a bit science fiction phantasy and loose tract of what's been proven and what's the current base of understanding. The whole reason why I am such a fan and into this to begin with even though I'm just a tradesmen is because I grew up in the 80s just outside the Fermilab national accelerator in Batavia Illinois and my dad worked there for close to 30 years in facilities. I spent much time in and around that facility so I have always been quite familiar with theoretical physics and I was lucky enough to have listened to many talks given in the auditorium by Leo Lederman, on a side note, I have some interesting experiences with Leon and his wife..
Making occ mistakes and mis speaking makes you human! Thus i can listen to you because you dont think u know everything! Brian Cox spoke about ths as a scientist when you find you are wrong its good, you learned something. You both dont seem to do this because you think you are right but because you want to shaore what you have found. I love that and we learn together
That was actually a fun to watch chat there! But the most entertaining part was the awkwardness haha! More than anything this chat made me feel like Joe is super awkward but curious and dark yet kind in real life just about as much or more than in the videos. Thats nice. It feels reassuring to know that the science communicators of today have their integrity in the right place!
My grandson who is the youngest 20yrs old has this same syndrome. He is on a spectrum of very very smart.He is second year of college. His grades are very high. He is majored Political Science. He just got back from Iceland. He doing well on his own. His emotions are not regular but he is a lot better. We are proud 👏 of him.
I have to say, ... I have a firefox extension and two different userscripts that go through and disable/remove annotations... I can see why you'd want that -- and if used for corrections: hey, let's do it. neat. But most often it's used to pop up annoying useless distractions and ads that make it impossible to pay attention to the video I'm trying to watch. I see a lot of in explicable "youtube thinks you'll like these videos" with creators pointing at nothing in particular and I just smirk and think, ... yeah, disabled. I'm so glad I did that. thought you should know.
I must say, I follow you, when you say what's the point that robots look or can do the same as humans. For example, a robot really doesn't have to have 10 fingers to type on a keyboard, a robot just plugs in, uses a keyboard driver internally, and type and sends data when it has to. It can even plug in a bluetooth adapter and do all the work from a distance. We could do that to, if we would transfer both video and data, so we could see what we're doing. A robot doesn't need video, it just needs corresponding data to the tasks its supposed to do, and can keep doing that until something faults the system. For me, robots, and I don't mean A.I., should be build for specific tasks, sometimes that specific task is an extension to the human capabilities, work in highly radiated environments for example, and sometimes it has to be able to do what a human can do, but not all the time. Personally, I would be more comfortable with an A.I. system like V.I.K.I. in "I, Robot" with Will Smith, than a bartender robot like in the movie "passenger" with chris pratt and jennifer lawrence. I don't need to see emotions on a robot, I know they aren't real anyway, just simulations. It would be safer like that too, I can throw a glass at the wall in my house, when that house is run by A.I. , but the A.I. won't think I'm trying to attack him, but I can throw a glass at that robot bartender, and then things might be different.
As a polymath, I have a theory of everything that only other polymaths can possibly understand. It involves becoming more like a human by mastering human sound through overtone singing, becoming familiar with all movement, understand the way the mind works, and becoming a polymath.
_This_ maths is a good representation of physics - if it wasn't we'd have invented/discovered a different one that was. Math-Anthropic Principle ; just put my Nobel prize in the mail.
really nice conversation, slow paced but I think in other conversations on other podcasts there is not enough time for a participant to actually sort their thoughts out while speaking and have a tiny moment to reflect on his own words before the other party jumps in. For me it feels like a relaxed conversation .. but as a content creator it maybe actually be stressful to keep the talk artificially "dynamic" with a person who listens until the other person is fully done speaking or waits for an actual question to be asked. :D.
Just for some background on the topic of education in germany (where sabine is from afaik): I work as a dev for the german education ministry of one of the states and i can say the teaching plans (which basicly are set up by the ministry of each state to ensure all students learn the same thing up to a certain point) is getting adjusted very quickly. Just a couple of weeks ago i heard that some educational communicators and school advisors/maintainers talk about including A.I. Topics and how to deal/work with ChatGPT and other A.I. agents and tool. So should get included in the educational plans quite soon and even sooner in the pool of schools and classes which are chosen to act as early bird test classes. So yeah courses and lecture unit on how to deal with social media, fake news and the informational hazards are a quite a new thing of the last couple of years.
Oh yeah! After watching a lot of science communicators and delving deeper into textbooks and journals...man the difference is like a wide chasm! I sometimes feel like being lied to when watching a lot of youtubers explaining some physics. Often, they also make it sound as if a lot of theories and interpretations have been proven beyond any doubt. But yes, I also get it, the mathematics is often beyond someone who is not already at least doing graduate studies.
Sabine, Math works so well because we have been creating it to work with reality. Centuries of changes, corrections, modification and lots of addtions. So it's no wounder it works well. We through out all the bits that didn't. And still, there are lots of bits that don't work so well but we don't have a better way of doing it.
You should do an episode with Anton Petrov if possible. Him and Sabine are my go-to scientists on RUclips. And he mentioned you in a recent video (about the LK-99 maybe?) so he definitely watches your channel. I've watched his videos daily for a while, but I'd love to see him actually talk about himself and to see you two have a conversation.
I much enjoyed talking to you, thanks for making this work!
Thanks so much for what you do.
stick to physics
So ... have you ever figured out why men don't belong into women's sports? It's not that hard and doesn't require any Gobbeldygook either.
Thank you! It was a pleasure to see another side of you!
Sabine, I appreciate your approach to science communication. Starting with the premise that it's understandable for most people. (Detroit, Michigan)
I just can't believe that this kind of content that you both create it's free and available to everyone! Thank you very much for your hard and awesome work!!
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May the two of you live long and prosper. Cheers.
Sabine is our shepherd, we lack nothing. She make us lie far from bad Science. She refreshes our souls, she guides us along the right paths. 😊
Well played, Joe! You completely represent us.
Nobody is my shepherd ... as best I can I do my own research, my own analyses, and come to my own conclusions. (And sometimes my results concur with those of others, oh wow!)
I walk through the valley of bad data.
I never would have dreamed you two would get together, be here we are, in great awe and appreciation of the great work you do.
I knew I was going to enjoy this. Sabine is a great content creator and author and I really enjoy her work... Just as much as I enjoy Joe's work just in different ways. Perfect combination that I just could not miss.
Thanks Joe!
I'm a huge fan of Sabine Hossenfelder and always enjoy hearing her insights. She's taught me to ponder the fundamental questions of physics in a more informed way. Moreover, she also brings deeply creative and original views on the human dimensions of our world. Such a beautiful mind!
I love it how she isn’t afraid to have strong opinions that don’t necessarily align with popular trends.
2 people I watch every week. Saves time. Thanks.
I find it so cool when 2 of my favorite channels happen to meet… I must be on to you guys! 😂
Sabine is the real deal.
Thanks for the treat.
Cool to see how two of the best science communicators around, have so many things in common while approaching things from very different backgrounds. That gives me hope for humanities future
The collab conversation I always wanted! Thanks Joe, Sabine, love both your channels.
what a wonderful talk, Sabine is a garanty for honesty and trustworthyness, couraged, soulful and pointed, thank you both
Pure awesomeness!
So happy that this incredible woman lets us peek into her head and regularly.
Hi Joe - Yes Sabine is a great scientist and a great communicator as well. (I can't help referring to Richard Feynman when it comes to talking about communicators). But your stuff about "How Electricity Actually Works" was also pretty much top notch. So thnx Joe and Sabine for your great work 🤗
The discovery of the night is Sabina’s songs. I’m now a fan!🎶🎤🎧
I freaking love her. I only recently found her channel and she's already my favorite professional scientist flavor of science explainer.
You're an honest to God scientist in our hearts Joe lol.
Maybe not scientist, but definitely a science communicator. The best teacher is not the person who is doing cutting edge research, but instead the person who struggled through it and understands what is commonly misunderstood.
Love Sabine's channel. Great science news breakdown and I also appreciate her humor
You love her anti-Trans rhetoric too?
@@EarthCreature. *shakes head* huh? how'd you get that from... nevermind. Is it possible she was just trying to highlight facts and you're virtue signaling?
I consider myself a trans-ally. and sometimes we have to ask ourselves if science communicators are asking tough questions with the express purpose of advancing our understanding of a topic. I know its a very touchy topic for all sides right now but we have to avoid going all cancel culture or we risk becoming the problem rather than fixing one.
She was showcasing debunked and old research and didn't really engage properly with the science available today, while also falling for some right-wing and TERF political talking points that intentionally twist the narrative.
That video made doubt her as a scientist - if you completely fail to properly assess your data, it casts a bad shape on all of your work in the academic field.
And she made some jokes in it that were extremely distasteful.
@sertaki I wondered. When she stepped out of her field of expertise. I trust her with maths, physics, space stuff but stepping into the complicated world of politics, gender & identity which maths isn't good for.
@@thoughtfuloutsider I wonder how much of that was simply her failing to do proper research and how much was her using the platform to showcase her own political beliefs.
Taking the nature of some of the jokes into account that she made in her video on transgender issues ... I fear it may be a deliberate choice.
I would much rather have to doubt her academic process than find out that one of the top science communicators is a bigot, honestly.
But seeing how she has not reviewed her video in any shape or form in reaction to being called out on the mistakes she made (and the falsehoods she pushed) , it leaves two options:
1. She is aware of the mistakes but does not want to admit to them (which would mean she is not a good scientist, rather choosing to keep wrong information out in the open than to admit to an error)
2. She is intentionally spreading misinformation because she is transphobic.
Judging by the sheer size of her fanbase and how extremely bigoted the comment section under that video was, there is no way she is unaware of the criticism that was quickly levied against her by people like Rebecca Watson.
She would have without doubt gotten thousands of emails by her fanbase alerting her to it.
And I have not yet even looked at her newer video titled "Why is everyone suddenly neurodivergent?" ... I fear it's equally lacking in proper research and may be perpetuating talking points that pathologize neurodivergent people in outdated ways. I would not be surprised if there was a call for donations to "charities" like "Autism Speaks" in the video description.
And it's extremely disappointing that I expect this now, since before her telling descent into anti-trans rhethoric, I would not have doubted her integrity.
I very much hope I am wrong regarding her take on neurodivergency.
Sabine is my favorite celebrity scientist. She actually understands the philosophy of science. Most scientists are very poor philosophers, and it gets them in a LOT of trouble. Especially once they start to talk outside the science and into the gobbeldygook.
"It is just an engineering problem." Very well. I'm starting the math. Joe, I've been subscribed to Sabine far longer than you. I understand (perhaps) half of what she says, but she has a wicked sense of humour. You made my day. Thank you.
joe, Sabine is one of my fav’s as you she is so informative.
Thank you buddy for showing us Sabine in a warm lay back interview.
Hi Joe. Sabine and yourself are far and beyond my favourite two RUclips CC's. This was a lovely chill discussion. Thank you both for doing this and hope to maybe see some collaborations in the future???
Joe and Sabine . What a coup. Mop
Dr. Sabine is an amazing woman. She is so smart. She is the #1 scientist whom I would like to meet and maybe play some music with.
Both Joe and Sabine are engaging , and so much fun to watch .
I love this introduction about 'gobbeldygook'. For even the simplest scientific papers, scientists try to sound 'scientific' by using their own jargon rather than describing stuff in words that non-scientists (like me) can understand. How refreshing it would be to read a medical paper about 'bruising' instead of 'ecchymosis'!
Love this talk. On mistakes, we make them. Do lose sleep over it.
A little humility goes a long way! You are awesome. The reason i watch You Tube
Oh, ... great! Joe and Sabine Hossenfelder, ... unbelievable!
Thank you for the interview Joe. Sabrine is a very funny and interesting scientist. I try to watch all her videos, and I recommend everyone else to do it to.
My favorite physicist being interviewed by my favorite Science communicator!!!!🎉🎉🎉🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Your favorite? Because she's anti-trans?
@@EarthCreature. what? I have no clue if she is anti-trans. She is a brilliant mathematician and physicist. She speaks truth to physicist who are lost in their own ideas and won’t except the truth of their failures (string theory, multiverse, etc..). Don’t presume to know why someone is a fan of someone or something. Even if she agrees or disagrees with beliefs I have or don’t, it doesn’t take away from her brilliant mind.
@@racingfortheson entirely correct
@@EarthCreature. nice, to see you guys not getting tired spreading your poison. Keep up your hateful work
Great stuff. Sabinews is of the best things in RUclips!
You are both funny and serious at the same time. A rare gift! Love both of your blogs.
Two of my favorite RUclips-ers. Great discussion of many interesting and important subjects. Thanks to you both. 😊
Two of my Superstars. Joe and Sabine!
I would absolutly watch videos about medicine from sabine!! And other topics she's interested in!! Without QUESTION!! PLEASE!! Do this! I can't wait for you to release the first one! :D
_"I would absolutly watch videos about medicine from sabine!!_
Why? She's a physicist?
@@cacogenicist because I trust her to do her research and get it right. THAT ALONE is in extremely short supply nowadays
I love the way Sabine condenses a topic and delivers a balanced summary. She is never one-sided. She did the best job of communicating the trans issues (and non-issues about it) that I've seen. She strikes the right balance between being able to get a message across and having technical and objective content.
@@alexwoodhead6471 - There are plenty of trustworthy people with actual academic backgrounds in biomedical sciences.
@@alexwoodhead6471 But you shouldn't trust her on medicine(or any topic except here niche in physics). That's the entire point. It's ridiculous to think that she can get complex subjects "right" by doing a few days of research. That kind of blind trust, just because, well you trust her, is exactly the problem with misinformation.
Wow, two of my favorite RUclipsrs! Thanks for this great collab Joe I look forward to any more content like this. 👍👍
Thank you for the awesome content and great videos!!
You get to talk to the coolest people I know about! 😀 I'm so jelly!
Great stuff. Thanks a lot.
Nice conversation. Sabine is great. 👍
Wow lots of interviews lately between my favourite YTers, thanks for this.
omg, omg, omg. Guys, I love both of your channels. No way you got her toghether in a video with you :D
15:03 that's how I also felt about math! Glad to hear an actual expert say it.
WAAAT? BOTH OF YOU TOGETHER?! SO COOL TO SEE THANK YOU BOTH!
I can't believe these two peeps are collaborating. Nice work.
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you for this! Before I watch it 😊
Keep it up, Joe! It's all good.
Joe and Sabine in one video, does RUclips life get any better?❤
I love when this happens, I watch both of their channels.
Very nice talk.
One thing to remember with the 'how long until X?' Technological inventions/progress isn't always linear(or a proper curve). The Romans had a steam engine device ~50 BCE. A cool toy but it seemed useless because they had slave labor to do the heavy lifting. AI/Machine learning will accelerate the progress of many industries, but without hindsight, you can't tell if ur going down the right path.
sabine is a rising star at a global level in the kingdom of theoretical physics and that bugs a few of her colleagues ;-)
"mathematical philosophy" sounds so contradictory! Fascinating.
You guys are so right about the loneliness of deep understanding. In my click, there is nobody that remotely understands most physics subjects.
Clique?
@@petergleeson295ironically RUclips offers to translate to English. The result is click.
I continue to learn a lot from the both of you. Many thanks.
and her channel is amasing and quite interesting and fun love her work
Two of my favorite youtubers.
Getting things wrong is part of the process of doing science. It's why we have a process of doing science. Trying to cover up and deny mistakes is wrong.
That was great. She's my favourite physicist.
Two of my favourite RUclipsrs. 🥰
So happy RUclips recommended this video. Big fan of both of you. Thank you to you two🥹
This was great! Danke Sabine und Joe.
Great to see you two discussing these topics together (2 of my fave YT creators) and some really good questions from Joe. Thanks to you both!
Not as many views as it should have, probably down to the YT algorithm - I'm subscribed to both Joe's and Sabine's other channels but I was shown this video for the first time just yesterday. Hope my view, the thumbs up and this comment helps this video to reach others.
I'm so envious of Joe getting to have this conversation. I enjoy Sabine's take on pretty much everything, especially when she plays devil's advocate across from other physicists.
Would love to see you two do a second round to talk about how you both use humor and gags in your approaches to science communication - maybe get a little meta about the role of humor in general in discussing serious/complex issues? (Plus I'd love to hear Sabine talk about how her music vids fit into the rest of her amazing work - they're pretty awesome)
I discovered she did music videos at 16:06 in THIS video! Wow! I checked it out in another tab. Music aside, the two of you are both great science communicators. I love watching both of you. Good interview.
Great interview!
I love her science news episodes!
Two of my favourite RUclipsrs! What's not to like?
wow, two of my most favourite science youtubers togerher in one video ! Great !
I actually have read some of Sabines books and followed her channel for a long time and I'm not in academia at all and just an enthusiast. I rely on Sabines input into some of the big questions hype because she is such a good skeptic, but I would bet the reason why so many people reach out to her for everything or questions about the theory of everything is most people don't know how specialized physics is. Just like in the trades there are people who specialize in just drywall, or just HVAC and even in the trade of HVAC there are commercial or refrigeration or geothermal etc. I must admit, when I think about physics and astrophysics and quantum mechanics I can get a bit science fiction phantasy and loose tract of what's been proven and what's the current base of understanding.
The whole reason why I am such a fan and into this to begin with even though I'm just a tradesmen is because I grew up in the 80s just outside the Fermilab national accelerator in Batavia Illinois and my dad worked there for close to 30 years in facilities. I spent much time in and around that facility so I have always been quite familiar with theoretical physics and I was lucky enough to have listened to many talks given in the auditorium by Leo Lederman, on a side note, I have some interesting experiences with Leon and his wife..
Love this.
Wow, a crossover from my two favorite youtubers🤗 This is going to be awesome 🤩
Making occ mistakes and mis speaking makes you human! Thus i can listen to you because you dont think u know everything! Brian Cox spoke about ths as a scientist when you find you are wrong its good, you learned something. You both dont seem to do this because you think you are right but because you want to shaore what you have found. I love that and we learn together
That was actually a fun to watch chat there! But the most entertaining part was the awkwardness haha! More than anything this chat made me feel like Joe is super awkward but curious and dark yet kind in real life just about as much or more than in the videos. Thats nice. It feels reassuring to know that the science communicators of today have their integrity in the right place!
To quote the great Varvatos Vex:
"Glorious!!!"
Omg 2 of my favourite creators
Please make more conversations with Joe, I have podcasts I listen to but I prefer seeing and hearing
great food for thought duo. Sabine made me think of Veritasium in several comments. I forget his name but he delves into some mind boggling maths.
My grandson who is the youngest 20yrs old has this same syndrome. He is on a spectrum of very very smart.He is second year of college. His grades are very high. He is majored Political Science. He just got back from Iceland. He doing well on his own. His emotions are not regular but he is a lot better. We are proud 👏 of him.
love Sabine!!
Yes, I enjoy her comments
I'm looking forward to Sabine's third book.
I have to say, ... I have a firefox extension and two different userscripts that go through and disable/remove annotations... I can see why you'd want that -- and if used for corrections: hey, let's do it. neat.
But most often it's used to pop up annoying useless distractions and ads that make it impossible to pay attention to the video I'm trying to watch. I see a lot of in explicable "youtube thinks you'll like these videos" with creators pointing at nothing in particular and I just smirk and think, ... yeah, disabled. I'm so glad I did that.
thought you should know.
Sabine Hossenfelder is straight up GERMAN HYPE & FIRE up in this mothertrucking physics & math business!
Joe scott and Sabine?!?!?! ON MY BIRTHDAY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! thank you :)
Edit: Yes, it is the 25th of may :P
Sabine.
@@klondike444 yeah, my bad!
I must say, I follow you, when you say what's the point that robots look or can do the same as humans.
For example, a robot really doesn't have to have 10 fingers to type on a keyboard, a robot just plugs in, uses a keyboard driver internally, and type and sends data when it has to. It can even plug in a bluetooth adapter and do all the work from a distance. We could do that to, if we would transfer both video and data, so we could see what we're doing. A robot doesn't need video, it just needs corresponding data to the tasks its supposed to do, and can keep doing that until something faults the system.
For me, robots, and I don't mean A.I., should be build for specific tasks, sometimes that specific task is an extension to the human capabilities, work in highly radiated environments for example, and sometimes it has to be able to do what a human can do, but not all the time.
Personally, I would be more comfortable with an A.I. system like V.I.K.I. in "I, Robot" with Will Smith, than a bartender robot like in the movie "passenger" with chris pratt and jennifer lawrence.
I don't need to see emotions on a robot, I know they aren't real anyway, just simulations. It would be safer like that too, I can throw a glass at the wall in my house, when that house is run by A.I. , but the A.I. won't think I'm trying to attack him, but I can throw a glass at that robot bartender, and then things might be different.
I recall hearing that France does have nuclear material recycling capabilities.
As a polymath, I have a theory of everything that only other polymaths can possibly understand. It involves becoming more like a human by mastering human sound through overtone singing, becoming familiar with all movement, understand the way the mind works, and becoming a polymath.
_This_ maths is a good representation of physics - if it wasn't we'd have invented/discovered a different one that was. Math-Anthropic Principle ; just put my Nobel prize in the mail.
really nice conversation, slow paced but I think in other conversations on other podcasts there is not enough time for a participant to actually sort their thoughts out while speaking and have a tiny moment to reflect on his own words before the other party jumps in.
For me it feels like a relaxed conversation .. but as a content creator it maybe actually be stressful to keep the talk artificially "dynamic" with a person who listens until the other person is fully done speaking or waits for an actual question to be asked. :D.
That part on "people sharing there theory of the univers but have no one to talk to."😅
Dang that hits home so hard.
Why did this feel like a video call with my teacher.
Just for some background on the topic of education in germany (where sabine is from afaik): I work as a dev for the german education ministry of one of the states and i can say the teaching plans (which basicly are set up by the ministry of each state to ensure all students learn the same thing up to a certain point) is getting adjusted very quickly. Just a couple of weeks ago i heard that some educational communicators and school advisors/maintainers talk about including A.I. Topics and how to deal/work with ChatGPT and other A.I. agents and tool. So should get included in the educational plans quite soon and even sooner in the pool of schools and classes which are chosen to act as early bird test classes.
So yeah courses and lecture unit on how to deal with social media, fake news and the informational hazards are a quite a new thing of the last couple of years.
Oh yeah! After watching a lot of science communicators and delving deeper into textbooks and journals...man the difference is like a wide chasm! I sometimes feel like being lied to when watching a lot of youtubers explaining some physics. Often, they also make it sound as if a lot of theories and interpretations have been proven beyond any doubt. But yes, I also get it, the mathematics is often beyond someone who is not already at least doing graduate studies.
Sabine, Math works so well because we have been creating it to work with reality. Centuries of changes, corrections, modification and lots of addtions. So it's no wounder it works well. We through out all the bits that didn't. And still, there are lots of bits that don't work so well but we don't have a better way of doing it.
Wow! You two! 👍👍
What you say at Minute 55 (especially the point at 56:30) is a thing much more youtubers should think about
Reaching for the absurd is a good exercise for the mind. As is sarcasm, satire, and irony. They work for a 'reason'.
You should do an episode with Anton Petrov if possible. Him and Sabine are my go-to scientists on RUclips. And he mentioned you in a recent video (about the LK-99 maybe?) so he definitely watches your channel. I've watched his videos daily for a while, but I'd love to see him actually talk about himself and to see you two have a conversation.
Omg! You’ve hit and passed the big time! I love her no gobbledygook!