@@alexkemplen772 it technically is being very androgynous. Personally i would describe it not as someone who's gender is hard to tell but that they have such strong vibes in either direction of the binary genders and in-between in a very attractive and cool way
@@tea_n_inki thought when people said it they meant that they want that persons gender/how that person presents themself.. gender wise? but in a trans way. was i wrong or is that also a way people use it
i’d personally say (as a trans person) that when people belong under the trans umbrella say “someone is gender” means that they give us gender envy! in the simplest terms it means that feel envious of someone’s presentation (masc/fem/androgynous) and appearance. kinda like “they’re so cool i wanna look like that after my transition” kinda thing
@@Mintymints2 Gender itself is how you perceive yourself towards being feminine, masculine, other, none or anything in between (it does not have to match how you like to dress -- it's more like a boy does not have to be told that he's a boy to know it, he just knows it) to put it the simplest way possible. In this context it's more about the gender envy, which is when your perceived gender matches someone else's looks (and not necessarily your own)
As far as I understand it, saying something or someone is gender is tied to the idea of gender envy and is about someone having features/characteristics that a person (or persons) would kill to have in order to match their ideal gender identity. Im not an expert on it though, so feel free to correct me if im wrong.
The concept of someone being "Gender" is lowkey hard to explain. Like, I know what it means but I can't quite accurately describe it. Anyways, Ike is very gender, I want what he has
I feel like when they described him as androgynous in vibe it clicked a bit, saying someone is gender is often like? when they embody something close to the middle of the spectrum or a balance of it yk? like a feminine guy or a masculine lady right? being somewhere or close to middle appeals to a lot of us who have that gender envy I suspect.
@@LunarBlossomYueHua-Art pretty much it, is someone that really hits the spot where feels like a truly fluid person, androgynous is easier to use to explain but imo doesn’t quite convey what it is.
@@ottaca3532gender envy is a trans exclusive experience theres literally no way for a cis person to experience it (though I think theres two variations of calling someone gender the one cis people mean and the one trans people mean)
Hahahahaha, many thanks for the clips as always Zie. This collab was truly something chaotic. More Mama's havin the blue novelist as an oshi, and his reaction to hearing that was great. Love how he was chill for most of the stream as well. Strawberry shortcake for you, mumu mu.🍰
Yeah, especially Ike... Like, they were collabing a lot, yet, he was probably dragged under the gun point, since he was relatively close to Doki... And new statements from Sayu is really adding up about being under the "gun point" and why Yugo was actually only graduated and not terminated.
@@נויהריספלד-ט3ת did you slept on Selen termination? After that, when she rebranded as Dokibird, they tried threw under bus with allegations on Elira channel. And, for the context, she did an attempt on her own life during suspension of her mv "Last cup of coffee", which had all permits of artists for arts and music, from LilyPichu, which already made song copyright free back in 2021, the only missing one was from "ex-livers", which is, you know, is pretty damn petty. And, for further shet she went through, it was actually two attempts, and she lost 200,000 dollars on all projects she hosted and made in 2023, without help of nijisanji. Back to the "black stream". In this video, Elira, Vox and Ike were shit talking and accusing Selen in doxing, while in reality all documents were sent to Niji for her faster graduation in jan. This documents were LEGAL, and only meant to be seen by Niji lawyer team. And this three just tried to paint her as dangerous doxxer, while saying "we can't ignore the fact of her well being, and attempt on her on life can't be taken lightly", so it's even further confirms her hospitalisation for an attempt. You can look up for Rima Everstar, Mujin or Nogusaki for more detailed information, but it's total Niji failure, and it might go even worse in a future for livers in this company.
I agree, Ike truly is gender 😂 and he definitely should have taken that minor discount because I've done that even if I hate being mistaken for one, discounts rock
And once again, Ike is very relatable here. I have been told this several times… even with makeup. Where I live, teenage girls want to look like e-girls so they put fake lashes and revealing clothes and they are quiet gifted on the bust area and are curvaceous… I have ass and curves but other than that I am slightly smaller than them and people think I’m 14-15…. Edit: And I’m nearly 22…
i keep coming back to this video because ike saying i am gender gets me everytime. when most of the audience is gay or trans or queer we just all get the gender envy and "mother" stuff because its so engrained into our communitys slang/terms, its so funny
Ah i remember the time when i'm already teenager yet they give me kids discounts. When they ask am i a child under 12, i'm like yes hahaha. Like i ride taxi, i pay children price, i go to amusement park and pay a child fee. You must think 'duh, you are a teenager which is still a child' but no. Here at our place, teenagers already considered adult price. Yet i still got child price yahooo~
I get mistaken as an elementary student when I fetch my younger brother. And like in my brother's grade school they're pretty strict about not letting the kids leave campus without a guardian since they're all too young. So when I fetch him there are times a teacher comes there and asks "Where are you going?" or a mom asking me "Do you know my son he's from grade ____ and his name is ____ have you seen him? He might be your classmate"
MILF slayers, woman, mother, gender, etc. we love them whoever or whatever they are. I just wanna say I really love how you edit your clips, it's always so fun to replay. Thanks for your hard work and for being part of the community
While I wouldn't say I understand it being considered for "minors" I've learned that some things have a "under the age of 26" price for things like buying tickets or whatever and it was always called Youth LOL like damn once I hit 26 I'm no longer youth. I feel like I'm no longer youth by the time i hit 23 or 24
Hmm i think my current gender expression is most like Ike but I wanna be more like Vox but mayhaps turn the horniness down by about 10 notches. I still wanna be fem in a masculine way. The most beautiful of boys bursting with confidence. I pass enough now that people who see me in a suit think I'm an attractive young man and I need just so much more of that.
Meanwhile I'm not even getting ID'd when buying alcohol anymore at 26 when anyone who seems they could be under 30 should be getting ID'd in my country
a few month ago it was "rizz" now its "being gender" ... look im 30 i freaking know i am getting old but you young people dont have to rub it in like that. lol what the hell is "being gender" supposed to mean?!
IT’S OKAY AHAHHA “being gender” is usually a term used by trans people or those who fall under the non-binary spectrum and it’s like when we see someone or something we wish we looked like or has the aesthetic we wish we’re presenting as, we say “they’re so gender” or “i want their gender”
I said this on Twitter already, but the look of bewilderment on Ike's face when Vox calls him more of a woman than Selen is spectacular.
Ike's facial reactions as a whole were so good
Oh my God the double take LOL
I mean compared to selen... a lot of people would turn out more feminine 😂
LMAO IKR surprisingly the model catches it so well, even the eyebrows!!
fuck man i missed them... i wish that everything had ended up other way...
I love how I immediately understood what people meant by "Ike is very gender" and they totally didn't get it. 🤣
Please explain what that supposed to mean
I have no idea what "Being very gender" is.
reminds me of that one scene at baka to test where hideyoshi has his own changing room in between the ladies' and gents' lol
@@alexkemplen772 it technically is being very androgynous. Personally i would describe it not as someone who's gender is hard to tell but that they have such strong vibes in either direction of the binary genders and in-between in a very attractive and cool way
@@tea_n_inki thought when people said it they meant that they want that persons gender/how that person presents themself.. gender wise? but in a trans way. was i wrong or is that also a way people use it
i’d personally say (as a trans person) that when people belong under the trans umbrella say “someone is gender” means that they give us gender envy! in the simplest terms it means that feel envious of someone’s presentation (masc/fem/androgynous) and appearance.
kinda like “they’re so cool i wanna look like that after my transition” kinda thing
it was this collab that I realized Ike's new outfit model is so much more expressive with his mortified, concerned and confused expressions lol
he’s always been this expressive !! i think his old hair just tends to hide his eyebrows a lot that’s why it was hard to see his expressions :00
@@ziemawari you have a good point, maybe it’s the eyebrows but I really feel like his expressions have become more enhanced
don't care if M or D, Vox is a certified ILF
don't mind me just reminiscing on the good ol times...
yes ike you are truly so gender ✨
also i love his reaction about vox and selen's moms watching him
thank you for this clip zie
i love how he reacts like its his first time hearing it www
also happy to deliver !!!
What does that word mean??????? Im lostttttt😭😭😭
@@Mintymints2 Gender itself is how you perceive yourself towards being feminine, masculine, other, none or anything in between (it does not have to match how you like to dress -- it's more like a boy does not have to be told that he's a boy to know it, he just knows it) to put it the simplest way possible. In this context it's more about the gender envy, which is when your perceived gender matches someone else's looks (and not necessarily your own)
@@Mintymints2 me too?? 😳
@@Mel_Bat tysm 😭
As far as I understand it, saying something or someone is gender is tied to the idea of gender envy and is about someone having features/characteristics that a person (or persons) would kill to have in order to match their ideal gender identity. Im not an expert on it though, so feel free to correct me if im wrong.
basically yeah !!
ike eveland stole my gender and i want it back pretty please 🔫
The concept of someone being "Gender" is lowkey hard to explain. Like, I know what it means but I can't quite accurately describe it. Anyways, Ike is very gender, I want what he has
I feel like when they described him as androgynous in vibe it clicked a bit, saying someone is gender is often like? when they embody something close to the middle of the spectrum or a balance of it yk? like a feminine guy or a masculine lady right? being somewhere or close to middle appeals to a lot of us who have that gender envy I suspect.
@@LunarBlossomYueHua-Art pretty much it, is someone that really hits the spot where feels like a truly fluid person, androgynous is easier to use to explain but imo doesn’t quite convey what it is.
@@LunarBlossomYueHua-Artbeing gender is when someone gives trans people of any gender gender envy, they want to look like or be like them
@ghosty_waaa They don't have to be trans.
@@ottaca3532gender envy is a trans exclusive experience theres literally no way for a cis person to experience it (though I think theres two variations of calling someone gender the one cis people mean and the one trans people mean)
Ike is a 15 year old all gender having mom magnet
Ike’s expressions make me laugh 10x more
both Vox and Ike are mothering on the daily and that's that on that!
ike is very gender indeed i want to steal his gender actually
Reminds me of the name of a Patreon supporter who got shouted out in some videos: "there is only one gender, it's mine and you can't have it"
I love how even here it is like nobody is explaining what being very gender means. It’s one of those things that either makes sense or it doesn’t.
when majority of the audience is gay so it’s like,,, we just *get it* without needing any explanation 😭😭😭
I just now realized this, but Vox is absolutely right, Ike is very gender indeed
Hahahahaha, many thanks for the clips as always Zie. This collab was truly something chaotic. More Mama's havin the blue novelist as an oshi, and his reaction to hearing that was great. Love how he was chill for most of the stream as well. Strawberry shortcake for you, mumu mu.🍰
UEEE THANK YOU FOR STROOB CAKE mumumu 🫶
I miss times like this :(
@@k9gsaki me too
me 🤝 ike
getting mistaked as minors
fr someone asked if i was under the age of 10 before and i was like BRO 💀
NO SAME I GOT MISTAKEN FOR A CHILD TOO LIKE ??!/)2)
"How old are you?"
Selen: " *YES.* "
this not aged well.....
Yeah, especially Ike... Like, they were collabing a lot, yet, he was probably dragged under the gun point, since he was relatively close to Doki... And new statements from Sayu is really adding up about being under the "gun point" and why Yugo was actually only graduated and not terminated.
Wait what happened?
@@נויהריספלד-ט3ת did you slept on Selen termination? After that, when she rebranded as Dokibird, they tried threw under bus with allegations on Elira channel. And, for the context, she did an attempt on her own life during suspension of her mv "Last cup of coffee", which had all permits of artists for arts and music, from LilyPichu, which already made song copyright free back in 2021, the only missing one was from "ex-livers", which is, you know, is pretty damn petty. And, for further shet she went through, it was actually two attempts, and she lost 200,000 dollars on all projects she hosted and made in 2023, without help of nijisanji. Back to the "black stream". In this video, Elira, Vox and Ike were shit talking and accusing Selen in doxing, while in reality all documents were sent to Niji for her faster graduation in jan. This documents were LEGAL, and only meant to be seen by Niji lawyer team. And this three just tried to paint her as dangerous doxxer, while saying "we can't ignore the fact of her well being, and attempt on her on life can't be taken lightly", so it's even further confirms her hospitalisation for an attempt. You can look up for Rima Everstar, Mujin or Nogusaki for more detailed information, but it's total Niji failure, and it might go even worse in a future for livers in this company.
Always say yes if you qualify for a discount. Save yo munay!
real and true /j www
I saw this on Twitter, I love the looks of confusion and horror that Ike gives Vic 😂😂
tbh vox does look very mother with his new model 😌
I agree, Ike truly is gender 😂 and he definitely should have taken that minor discount because I've done that even if I hate being mistaken for one, discounts rock
I’ve never seen Ike so horrendously confused and I love it
0:35 - "get me out of there" look.
Ike’s face at the end of clip 😂
his little grr grr face at the end is so cuute
0:48 look Vox is really a mom
Ike eveland, the gender of nijisanji EN
Oh dear god the "öööööööööh" face Ike makes at 0:33.
Ike should've said yes ToT a discount is a discount mate
Ike being absolutely shocked at being a Mom Magnet like 👁️👄👁️
i love how ike looked so concerned at 0:35
I feel you Ike, everyone thinks Im in highschool and I already finished college
Ike is gender clearly the one I want to have at least
YES, IKE IS VERY GENDER INDEED OMG HOW I DID NEVER THOUGHT OF THAAAAAAT
who wouldn't take the minor discount?
ike eveland please let me borrow your gender for just 2 seconds i lost mine
Vox is so mother
i don't think there's like a proper way to explain the gender thing but i have to agree, i want ike's gender
I feel your pain Ike😅
I love this clip so much! It's very dynamic, Zie
hehe thank u
the editing is genius
ehe thank you 🙇♀️🙇♀️
these clips are my lifeblood thank you oh my GOD
happy to deliver hehe
selen is right ike should've said yes
Ike Eveland babyface confirmed? lol
Zie I love ur editing style SO MUCH ty for clip
ike is gender and has a baby face im so jealous
And once again, Ike is very relatable here.
I have been told this several times… even with makeup. Where I live, teenage girls want to look like e-girls so they put fake lashes and revealing clothes and they are quiet gifted on the bust area and are curvaceous… I have ass and curves but other than that I am slightly smaller than them and people think I’m 14-15….
Edit: And I’m nearly 22…
You are from a weird place, Let your hair grow longer, see what happens
I died the editing is also godly
hfmdnms that makes me so happy to hear thank you !!!
I like how at all times Ike is terrified of anything and everything. He's so pure and innocent.
Ike is ✨GENDER✨
OMG IKE IS VERY GENDER
Fun clip !
i keep coming back to this video because ike saying i am gender gets me everytime. when most of the audience is gay or trans or queer we just all get the gender envy and "mother" stuff because its so engrained into our communitys slang/terms, its so funny
Ike's getting the minor's discount, I stopped getting carded at 23. But he should've taken that discount and saved that money
the editing did it for me 🤣
Vox is very mother, eve kenji’s mom prefers him…Ike is just adorable and jowol( porcelain
Maid) simple, the mothers attract mothers
Enjoy looking Young while it lasts 😂😂😂
Ah i remember the time when i'm already teenager yet they give me kids discounts. When they ask am i a child under 12, i'm like yes hahaha. Like i ride taxi, i pay children price, i go to amusement park and pay a child fee. You must think 'duh, you are a teenager which is still a child' but no. Here at our place, teenagers already considered adult price. Yet i still got child price yahooo~
I feel his pain I was mistaken for a minor at my recent doctor appointment because I am 4'11 with a baby face🤣
"He looks very woman, very mother"
Ike IS very gender so true
the good ol days
I sometimes wonder if streamer broke chat, vice versa or if all of us were broke from the beginning
As a masculine-leaning nonbinary and genderfluid person: I can confirm, Ike is very gender. I wish I looked like that irl 😂
*G E N D E R*
GENDER !!!
Bro ike is so gender like i wanna steal that ngl
If I was Ike I'd be like "I just turned 14"💀😭
I get mistaken as an elementary student when I fetch my younger brother. And like in my brother's grade school they're pretty strict about not letting the kids leave campus without a guardian since they're all too young. So when I fetch him there are times a teacher comes there and asks "Where are you going?" or a mom asking me "Do you know my son he's from grade ____ and his name is ____ have you seen him? He might be your classmate"
i was today years old when i found out other people use the term "very gender". i thought it was something my bf made up lmaooo
The thing about gender here is - if you know, you know.
"How old are you?"
Selen: "Say yes!"
MILF slayers, woman, mother, gender, etc. we love them whoever or whatever they are.
I just wanna say I really love how you edit your clips, it's always so fun to replay. Thanks for your hard work and for being part of the community
awww thats so sweet of u ueee thank u 🥹🫶
While I wouldn't say I understand it being considered for "minors" I've learned that some things have a "under the age of 26" price for things like buying tickets or whatever and it was always called Youth LOL like damn once I hit 26 I'm no longer youth. I feel like I'm no longer youth by the time i hit 23 or 24
Me 🤝 ike
(Opposite) i get probably get mistaken as like maybe 18 year old which I'm under that
And ike getting mistaken as a minor
Hmm i think my current gender expression is most like Ike but I wanna be more like Vox but mayhaps turn the horniness down by about 10 notches. I still wanna be fem in a masculine way. The most beautiful of boys bursting with confidence. I pass enough now that people who see me in a suit think I'm an attractive young man and I need just so much more of that.
Lol poor Ike😂
mans missed the chance to save some moolah with that discount smh smh #NotMyOshi
Meanwhile I'm not even getting ID'd when buying alcohol anymore at 26 when anyone who seems they could be under 30 should be getting ID'd in my country
Oh yeah Ike is soooo gender bruh
Vox your daddy but not the mummy and lke your so cute and lvu vox and lvu lke 🤗🤗🤗🤗💋💋💋💋💜💜💜💜
Ike *is* so gender tbh
Ikey wikey does not li-
To those who think Ike is very gender 🙏
👇
Ike confirmed twink?
a few month ago it was "rizz" now its "being gender" ... look im 30 i freaking know i am getting old but you young people dont have to rub it in like that. lol what the hell is "being gender" supposed to mean?!
IT’S OKAY AHAHHA “being gender” is usually a term used by trans people or those who fall under the non-binary spectrum and it’s like when we see someone or something we wish we looked like or has the aesthetic we wish we’re presenting as, we say “they’re so gender” or “i want their gender”
@@ziemawari ah i see. good to know. thanks
He *is* very gender
what does milf mean?
“mom i’d like to fuck” 👍
Moro Islamic Liberation Front
Wut
you know what
yeah
dommy mommy vox is a thing i would enjoy