The problem with going to sleep with these videos is that you never know how they ended. I have seen quite a few rushes and quite a bit of eco booming by now but knights, onagers, or monks? Well. I was flying through Chicago with Santa and Michael Jackson at that point :P
I still remember the first time I caught a HOANG stream. I was convinced it was an imposter because he was in Imp booming on five TCs without a forward.
Gotta say, Hoang games weren't a favourite personally as how he was so stubborn to try only one thing. But now that he is getting better, I'm really starting to enjoy his games a little more. This game was really good and I'm glad to see Hoang on the Imperial Age as most of his battles take place in Castle Age. He's got potential.
@@princessbinas He still is. Turns out that you don't need to not follow a build order to be inventive. Another player like Viper is testament of that.
yes but also, that Imperial was because of his style of fighting in castle age, wich makes "the space" for a booming. Is very nice that we can see the evolution for this player (ok, no militia rush) but his knight, mango, monks now plus boom & imperial.
Franco Promanigo its the most frustrating thing in the game. Trying to push the deer while luring a boar. Deer runs away, you try to chase it. Meanwhile, your vil dies to boar. You scramble and end up killing a boar outside of your TC, and the deer runs away again. It is pure EVIL.
Someone' finally told Hoang that if you hold off on the full Hoang early on, you can Hoang several times harder later. We're witnessing the birth of a monster
T90's casts are engaging enough to keep our minds from wandering and worrying, yet constant & level enough volume wise to allow your conscious mind to turn off. His soprano/alto voice combined with the natural sounds of AoE is perfect. Who ever does the Audio Balance is doing a great job.
Well, t90 you forgot HOANG has been improving and playing to be in tournaments. I also think losing The Princess stroked the competitive side for him. #it'snotwrong.It'sHOANG
When t90 says i know some of you are trying to sleep i always think he means trying to fall asleep with these vids, because thats what i do, its something to do with the way he talks about this game makes it sound so good
The content is engaging enough to keep your mind from wandering & worrying- while his soprano/alto voice overlaid on top of the constant, level sounds of AoE (Birds, Vills chopping, buildings/unit completion, combat etc) is literally the perfect combination to fall asleep to.
Hoang is going to be scary in the next 1v1 tournament he's in... Mark my words, easily could pressure and frustrate players in the top 10, maybe even top 5 if he is able to boom behind it
Hi T90. Thank you for casting Hoang games. They are so fun to watch, and your casting makes them even better! If you want a long Hoang game, watch his Visible Cup game r64, playing Burmese..
Wow, what a game!! Really goes to show how effective it is to learn how to push first before you learn how to boom. Booming just makes pushing more difficult to learn if you think about it. His entire timeline of improvement makes so much sense to me now! Learn to push first. Then learn to boom!!
Hoang looked incredible in this game, especially compared to what we first saw a few months ago (and, *cough* in HC3). Could it have been a wake-up call? In the non-Korean Brood War community, there are players and even entire nations that are known for "cheesy" "all-in" strats. Invariably, when a player rises from that group, they diversify their play to involve macro-heavy openers to throw off their opponents who have grown to expect the rushy all-in style plays. Hoang so far has been the best example of this in AoE2, as far as I can tell. It will be exciting to watch his progress in the coming year. Thanks for sharing this T90! Love, Trapped In C.
YYYYESSSSSSS!!!!! I love Hoang since the first video because of his strategy and really good micro. But now he's just getting more awesome. He's finally using his insane strength in early game by booming. I'm so excited for more Hoang :D
Celts have a 4.68% pick percent in 1600+ elo, that's the 7th most commonly picked civ. They also have a 54.4% win rate, the second highest in 1600+ DE. I guarantee you at least half of those statistics are Hoang 11. Also, props to Hoang for winning 1200 games, having played over 2000 ranked games at this point. That's waaaay more than almost every other pro.
Unpopular opinion: this wasn't about Hoang being super strong or good, it was that saymyname utterly failed his walls @ 9:50 which allowed his opponent to steamroll him. Honestly saymyname should've tapped out immediately at that point. That said - Hoang is to be commended for ruthlessly exploiting that mistake to crush his enemy.
Hoang is slowly becoming a beast, this game was actually really well done by him, he could easily compete with stronger players with this kind of play, hes macro still needs more work, but hes really improving
Hoang is evolving!? Quick press B xD Joke asides it's pretty cool to see Hoang dominated saymyname like that And then next year Hoang will become the winner of Hidden Cup.. maybe :P
Hoang played this game really close to perfection(94,89% close) Timestamp related below: 25:09 My favourite units are korean wagons because their attack animation shows huge bullet coming at small infantry like it should squish it but instead it deals like 9 dmg,lol It's like in games where you see enemy as big as a mountain throwing literally nukes at you but then you and your lvl 1 character sit like: I got 1 damage,what else can you do?
Can we appreciate the intense micro of saymyname at 18:46 and following? Don't know why T90 is hyping Hoang exchanges here, saymyname clearly outmicroed him... I mean it's just crazy to see the plumes following the scorpion to stay in minimum range meanwhile they micro down the knight, and at the exact time the mangonel pops up they split and get to the minimum range of the mangonel while avoiding the first scorpion bolts. At the end he lost 1 mangonels and few plumed and killed 2 mangonels 2 scorpions 1 knight and 1 monk 1 scout plus the repair vill. I'd say it was a crazy exchange.
Thanks T90 I dont like watching streams I do only watch your youtube content and I always do it when im about to sleep. I only watch 30mins games with my fully asttention but with must 1h+ videos I always fall asslep around the minute 20.
thank you for sharing this T 90 this was probably the best Hoang match! NOT as entertaining as The All in matches vs Hera or Project belgium where he compeltly destroyed them in 25 mins ^^ but this holds his own! THIS time he wasntinvesting too much in apllying pressure though making very very dautish boom behind it! GG wP! a thats against sayMYname a top 20 ? palyer :) solid!
Was Hoang's map way better though? I noticed this in hideout, the stones and golds are poorly distributed so sometimes a player gets shafted and games are decided this way.
A regional tournament series sounds amazing! I would be so down for a Vietnamese Cup. I also bet a Nordic Cup excluding Viper would be pretty fantastic as well.
@@hirakchatterjee5240 why would you have less players by doing Scandinavian cup if you did Nordic like that dude commented it would include Finnish players
Hoang performed really well overall. Sure, things like tons of vills queued up and deleyed eco and military upgrades seem sloppy, but aside from that he was pretty clean. Saymyname though could have done a lot better had he gone for monk defence - at least imo
So Hoang has definitely just plain gotten ebtter at keeping an eye on eco while pushing, thats true. but I think DE helped in another way as well. auto re-seeding farms. I remember in the past you go to this mans base and there are dead farms everywhere. Now they get auto upkeep! lol. But yeah he is definitely better at keeping towncenters producing and keeping villagers on task.
i have a question please why doesn't blue create spearmen or eagles against hoang's knights and magonels ? that would be a better option than archers, no ?
They would get chewed up by the scopions. Although he could have combined both mangonels and pikemen (perhaps the plums along with them), but his eco wasn't as good.
@@alanbareiro6806 thanks buddy, at the beginning of the fight ( 17 ingame minutes ) hoang didnt have scorpions but i guess blue anticipated the fact that hoang would make them as soon as he saw some spearmen
At first SMN does not even have barracks to produce from, and he is very short on wood during the repairs to his TC and building his own mangos. Once the castle is up, the composition he chose only really requires archer attack upgrades. Eagle/pike absolutely requires unit and blacksmith upgrades to be effective against knights and mangos, and he would have lost his TC before he could get them.
Spearman is too weak against knight, he would have to upgrade to pikemen. Eagles aren't cost effective against kts as well. The best strategy is actually to mass plumed archers, they fare against knights very well. Point is, in this game Hoang really outplayed saymyname this game, but saymyname could have won the game with the strategy he chose if he played better.
DE pathing for melee unit was mediocre at release, it has been patched a few times since then but still is not perfect. Franks are still a good civ, and very popular as pocket in Tg though
Franks got the strongest standard horse line, but they are very limited on range n siege if i remember correctly. The unique unit needs some more work i think, its abit of an odd unit. Low range and mediocre dmg. Its better then a skirm atleast, but for an uniq unit its kinda weak, and is only usefull in a handfull of situasjons
@@MeOw4L completely disagree. Throwing axemen are situational, that's true, but they're beastly in tearing through other infantry. Don't forget that even though they're ranged they do melee damage so you need to get blacksmith upgrades like they're infantry, not archers. Perfect complimenting an army of cavalry when the enemy opts for pikes.
Hoang learning to boom is like velociraptors learning to open doors
Clever girl
They know how to open doors since the first Jurassic Park
that comparison was the weirdest way to express it perfectly
Marco Boldrin
Yeah, but they had to learn it, and upon doing so, it was nearly decisive.
Michael Crichton was a beast. There are still some books I want to read from him
"I know some of you are trying to sleep"
I feel personally drushed
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The problem with going to sleep with these videos is that you never know how they ended. I have seen quite a few rushes and quite a bit of eco booming by now but knights, onagers, or monks? Well. I was flying through Chicago with Santa and Michael Jackson at that point :P
That's so deep. Sleep as a recapitulation of the Dark Age. I love it!
but he is so right :P
i love to watch some aoe talk for sleeping
Dream Rushed D:
Hoang has mutated into a new strain.
Mortality rate 💯%
Sound the alarms ! Hide your princesses hide your vipers !
"he's beating viper in hidden cup 7 finals" another killer combo of words from the procaster :D
"Celt eat TC"
All the pro players are adapting faster than ever and boy, am I loving it.
Daut even quickwalls now
@@RSFaber-nk6lh what a time to be alive
He's been playing the same way for 10 years.
Meanwhile I always forgot my own strategy after 1 day
Is it not just 2 handed swordsman spam?
Hovid19
There there champ
What's a "strategy"?
I just go "mouse go click click".
man this guy must love the Malay civ.
I still remember the first time I caught a HOANG stream. I was convinced it was an imposter because he was in Imp booming on five TCs without a forward.
Hoang: "Say my name"
Saymyname: "Yes?"
Hoang: "No"
Saymyname: "..."
Hoang: "..."
Saymyname: *sigh* "Hoang"
Hoang: "You're goddamn right!"
I laughed so hard
11!
Gotta say, Hoang games weren't a favourite personally as how he was so stubborn to try only one thing. But now that he is getting better, I'm really starting to enjoy his games a little more. This game was really good and I'm glad to see Hoang on the Imperial Age as most of his battles take place in Castle Age.
He's got potential.
"I'm really starting to enjoy his games a *little* more"
that made me laugh
I enjoyed how unorthodox he was. It was breath of fresh air.
@@princessbinas He still is. Turns out that you don't need to not follow a build order to be inventive. Another player like Viper is testament of that.
yes but also, that Imperial was because of his style of fighting in castle age, wich makes "the space" for a booming. Is very nice that we can see the evolution for this player (ok, no militia rush) but his knight, mango, monks now plus boom & imperial.
Anyone else see that ibex reset like 4 times for Hoang? lol
I was laughing so hard lmao
Franco Promanigo its the most frustrating thing in the game. Trying to push the deer while luring a boar. Deer runs away, you try to chase it. Meanwhile, your vil dies to boar. You scramble and end up killing a boar outside of your TC, and the deer runs away again. It is pure EVIL.
@@mosatsoni4324 hell I know, sometimes im just like "... fuck it, i need to scout"
AoE2 is the Dark Souls of RTS games
2019: Hoang finds "The Art of war" challenges
2021: Hoang beats TheViper in a BO21 and wins NAC4
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2032: Hoang rules the world
Underrated comment!
Don't go giving him idea's
You mean 2032: Hoang fc mango rushes the White House xD
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@@karansharma761 I wonder what the HP on a white house is?
Someone' finally told Hoang that if you hold off on the full Hoang early on, you can Hoang several times harder later. We're witnessing the birth of a monster
someone told him he was actually able to construct several TCs, and train vills in all of them consecutively. big whistleblow!
27:10 "Hoang is evolving" fitted perfect
When you shown me that 2nd TC. I cried man. Tears of joy.
T90's casts are engaging enough to keep our minds from wandering and worrying, yet constant & level enough volume wise to allow your conscious mind to turn off.
His soprano/alto voice combined with the natural sounds of AoE is perfect.
Who ever does the Audio Balance is doing a great job.
Well, t90 you forgot HOANG has been improving and playing to be in tournaments. I also think losing The Princess stroked the competitive side for him. #it'snotwrong.It'sHOANG
Who is the princess?
@@huan2524 spoiler for HC3:
In HC3 the Player Princess Yodit was revealed as DauT, so Princess is a new Nick for him.
When t90 says i know some of you are trying to sleep i always think he means trying to fall asleep with these vids, because thats what i do, its something to do with the way he talks about this game makes it sound so good
The content is engaging enough to keep your mind from wandering & worrying- while his soprano/alto voice overlaid on top of the constant, level sounds of AoE (Birds, Vills chopping, buildings/unit completion, combat etc) is literally the perfect combination to fall asleep to.
@@Preacher_. You nailed it
Kinda weird seeing hoang getting to the castle age.. he must’ve felt like “this is such a waste of resources”
15:50 You were correct. There was the Boadkin Arrow queued in the blacksmith.
Hoang is going to be scary in the next 1v1 tournament he's in... Mark my words, easily could pressure and frustrate players in the top 10, maybe even top 5 if he is able to boom behind it
He may still have to improve. Viper was never forgiving flaws of his game in ranked games, where Viper does not play his best.
What does he do when other pros inevitably ban celts against him?
just ban CELTS civ as soon as you're able to and he'll be screwed. maybe not, who knows.
19:23 a stand ground melee unit (scout) killing an archer, thats a rare sight
Hi T90. Thank you for casting Hoang games. They are so fun to watch, and your casting makes them even better! If you want a long Hoang game, watch his Visible Cup game r64, playing Burmese..
Wow, what a game!! Really goes to show how effective it is to learn how to push first before you learn how to boom. Booming just makes pushing more difficult to learn if you think about it. His entire timeline of improvement makes so much sense to me now! Learn to push first. Then learn to boom!!
Hoang looked incredible in this game, especially compared to what we first saw a few months ago (and, *cough* in HC3). Could it have been a wake-up call?
In the non-Korean Brood War community, there are players and even entire nations that are known for "cheesy" "all-in" strats. Invariably, when a player rises from that group, they diversify their play to involve macro-heavy openers to throw off their opponents who have grown to expect the rushy all-in style plays. Hoang so far has been the best example of this in AoE2, as far as I can tell. It will be exciting to watch his progress in the coming year. Thanks for sharing this T90! Love, Trapped In C.
Great casting T90, as usual. Makes watching those games so much more enjoyable
25:08 RUclips answered you: Woad Riders are awesome
YYYYESSSSSSS!!!!! I love Hoang since the first video because of his strategy and really good micro. But now he's just getting more awesome. He's finally using his insane strength in early game by booming. I'm so excited for more Hoang :D
Celts have a 4.68% pick percent in 1600+ elo, that's the 7th most commonly picked civ. They also have a 54.4% win rate, the second highest in 1600+ DE. I guarantee you at least half of those statistics are Hoang 11. Also, props to Hoang for winning 1200 games, having played over 2000 ranked games at this point. That's waaaay more than almost every other pro.
And he finally evolved. He's like those rare pokemon that need a lot of time to lvl up and evolve, like Hydreigon
"Is he gonna loose that villager to the bear? That would be unBEARable..."
This made my day xD
Well, TheViper, you had a good run...
Remember when Hoang played Hun wars?
When Hoang has more than one TC and 17 more villagers than the opponent: wait, that's illegal
Unpopular opinion: this wasn't about Hoang being super strong or good, it was that saymyname utterly failed his walls @ 9:50 which allowed his opponent to steamroll him. Honestly saymyname should've tapped out immediately at that point. That said - Hoang is to be commended for ruthlessly exploiting that mistake to crush his enemy.
15:44 That mangonel on the left:
"Yeah, I think I'll pass..."
Hoang is slowly becoming a beast, this game was actually really well done by him, he could easily compete with stronger players with this kind of play, hes macro still needs more work, but hes really improving
he played really smooth here
*wipes a tear from eye* Our boy Hoang is growing up.
Sick game. Sick casting. Incredible growth from Hoang. 10/10 best content on youtube. Cheers!
Hoang is evolving!? Quick press B xD
Joke asides it's pretty cool to see Hoang dominated saymyname like that
And then next year Hoang will become the winner of Hidden Cup.. maybe :P
"It was an hour long game, it was ridiculous..."
Wait 'till yesterday, my lad, that was just a taste
Hoang played this game really close to perfection(94,89% close)
Timestamp related below:
25:09 My favourite units are korean wagons because their attack animation shows huge bullet coming at small infantry like it should squish it but instead it deals like 9 dmg,lol
It's like in games where you see enemy as big as a mountain throwing literally nukes at you but then you and your lvl 1 character sit like: I got 1 damage,what else can you do?
SayMyNames imp TC was so close to not finishing the upgrade! 25:07
T90Blind
I don't know how people can sleep during these videos, I am on edge most of the time watching these games!
Only time I ever fell asleep was longest game ever. I think that took five sittings to finish.
It feels like Old Huang was a bear.
He is now a bear strapped with rocket launchers and heavy armor.
Nice non-stop pressure by Hoang.
what DE changed most is that the general playerbase strenght in the top 100 top 1000 has increased significant
Can we appreciate the intense micro of saymyname at 18:46 and following?
Don't know why T90 is hyping Hoang exchanges here, saymyname clearly outmicroed him... I mean it's just crazy to see the plumes following the scorpion to stay in minimum range meanwhile they micro down the knight, and at the exact time the mangonel pops up they split and get to the minimum range of the mangonel while avoiding the first scorpion bolts. At the end he lost 1 mangonels and few plumed and killed 2 mangonels 2 scorpions 1 knight and 1 monk 1 scout plus the repair vill. I'd say it was a crazy exchange.
Love seeing a fellow Celt player. My favourite civ. Woads + Seige rams = hnnnnggg
This is so absurd :D Hoang booming, Mayans looking weak, Scorpions dominating. yeesh.
12:50 and he called it. he's been 6-7 TC booming these days
Great video as always! t90Love
That seemed like total domination
Hoang makes me believe in the off meta picks
15:40 min oh my godness come HOANG : °! What is this LOW-ELO Legendz ?!?! hahahahahah t 90 legend! :D
hoang got a taste of a tournament and now he's evolving to win
HoangBL confirmed!
Dude being called out like that completely woke me up
Not watched it yet but the title has me shook
This is actually sad, Hoang stopped Hoanging. What's next? Daut stops building Daut castles?
Well he still hoangs at first, but then follows it up with dauting
Watch out world.
HERE COMES HOANG.
15:47 Mangonel with the reverse mechanism
The good ole moonwalking mangonel trick eh
Thanks T90 I dont like watching streams I do only watch your youtube content and I always do it when im about to sleep.
I only watch 30mins games with my fully asttention but with must 1h+ videos I always fall asslep around the minute 20.
thank you for sharing this T 90 this was probably the best Hoang match! NOT as entertaining as The All in matches vs Hera or Project belgium where he compeltly destroyed them in 25 mins ^^ but this holds his own! THIS time he wasntinvesting too much in apllying pressure though making very very dautish boom behind it! GG wP! a thats against sayMYname a top 20 ? palyer :) solid!
i hope this ages well :)
Congratulations hoang has evolved into a new pokemon
T90: I love woads
Me: HERESY! teutonic knights are the best DEUS VULT
Was Hoang's map way better though? I noticed this in hideout, the stones and golds are poorly distributed so sometimes a player gets shafted and games are decided this way.
This is the most dominant I have seen Hoang in a game lol
We just teched into Elite Hoang
Wtf! What are those stripes behind the siegewepons!? Are that chemtrails?
Oh it's just no snow mod. XD
That outpost in the south was hilarious
just to clarify, theres only a few streamers that i like to watch to relax and sleep, you are on that select group
Oh look a hoang game!
*Sees hoang with more than 30 villagers in the castle age * NANI!!!
I prioritise horse collar just because of the wood you save early game when wood is like gold
A regional tournament series sounds amazing! I would be so down for a Vietnamese Cup. I also bet a Nordic Cup excluding Viper would be pretty fantastic as well.
Norway has like only 2 pro players , MBL and Viper. Maybe more like an Scandinavian cup
@@hirakchatterjee5240 why would you have less players by doing Scandinavian cup if you did Nordic like that dude commented it would include Finnish players
Hoang performed really well overall. Sure, things like tons of vills queued up and deleyed eco and military upgrades seem sloppy, but aside from that he was pretty clean. Saymyname though could have done a lot better had he gone for monk defence - at least imo
Clearly we need to see the Viper vs Hoang
Even Hoang has to adapt, stay home and boom in the current world meta.
Multi TC booms, late but done eco upgrades, working vills... Hoang seem to be really changed.
So Hoang has definitely just plain gotten ebtter at keeping an eye on eco while pushing, thats true. but I think DE helped in another way as well. auto re-seeding farms. I remember in the past you go to this mans base and there are dead farms everywhere. Now they get auto upkeep! lol. But yeah he is definitely better at keeping towncenters producing and keeping villagers on task.
Hoang in there folks
Please T90! Don't give us nightmares about Hoang! :'D
Don't forget to add this vid to the Hoang playlist (y)
Thank you for your upload. High entertainment.... 1 million like :))
i have a question please why doesn't blue create spearmen or eagles against hoang's knights and magonels ? that would be a better option than archers, no ?
They would get chewed up by the scopions. Although he could have combined both mangonels and pikemen (perhaps the plums along with them), but his eco wasn't as good.
@@alanbareiro6806 thanks buddy, at the beginning of the fight ( 17 ingame minutes ) hoang didnt have scorpions but i guess blue anticipated the fact that hoang would make them as soon as he saw some spearmen
At first SMN does not even have barracks to produce from, and he is very short on wood during the repairs to his TC and building his own mangos. Once the castle is up, the composition he chose only really requires archer attack upgrades. Eagle/pike absolutely requires unit and blacksmith upgrades to be effective against knights and mangos, and he would have lost his TC before he could get them.
@@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism oooh okay that makes perfect sense thank you !
Spearman is too weak against knight, he would have to upgrade to pikemen. Eagles aren't cost effective against kts as well. The best strategy is actually to mass plumed archers, they fare against knights very well. Point is, in this game Hoang really outplayed saymyname this game, but saymyname could have won the game with the strategy he chose if he played better.
AoE2 pros: write that down! write that down!
He surely didn't evolve into Daut because all his castles went up no problem
He adapted Daut's strengths after losing to him in HC, not his weaknesses.
@@naphackDT That's fascinating, and terrifying. We have to prevent him from playing with MBL
@@shafoz Oh god, top tier laming, rush micro and boom all from one player sounds like a nightmare to go up against.
@@kyleeversfield8276 i mean, I think Hoang really like pushing deers so maybe no laming?
2:51 A STAR WARS QUOTE
HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE
Holy Shit where?
Relax take a deep breath
1 minute club! im finally here early, and i am wondering.. why arent franks very popular
i think its because DE changed melee pathing so that knight line isnt as powerful anymore
DE pathing for melee unit was mediocre at release, it has been patched a few times since then but still is not perfect. Franks are still a good civ, and very popular as pocket in Tg though
www.ageofempires.com/stats/ageiide/ Franks according to the site has the 2nd highest usage?
Franks got the strongest standard horse line, but they are very limited on range n siege if i remember correctly. The unique unit needs some more work i think, its abit of an odd unit. Low range and mediocre dmg. Its better then a skirm atleast, but for an uniq unit its kinda weak, and is only usefull in a handfull of situasjons
@@MeOw4L completely disagree. Throwing axemen are situational, that's true, but they're beastly in tearing through other infantry. Don't forget that even though they're ranged they do melee damage so you need to get blacksmith upgrades like they're infantry, not archers. Perfect complimenting an army of cavalry when the enemy opts for pikes.
I fear no man. But that... Hoang, it scares me.
Spearman against meso civ, man. He is something else
ANOTHER ONE. ANOTHER ONE. DJ Hoangled with the castles.
Hoang going to be top 10 soon enough
Oh yeah :) More Hoang!
That wasn't hoang. It was viper smurfing
I am watching this at night... I'm affraid now
Clawful bear jokes in this
Haven't seen the video yet, but the title grabs my interest.
problem with woads is just the low pierce armor i like my huskarls!