I failed to mention this is also an adapted version as well as being a smaller scaled recipe - this recipe is heavier on the Cocchi Americano then that in the book. You can check out the GIVEAWAY in the first link below (2 for anyone to win, 1 reserved for Patreon subs: - GIVEAWAY: bit.ly/stb-giveaway - PATREON: bit.ly/stb-patreon - STANDARD SPOON BARWARE: bit.ly/standard-spoon
You mentioned that Cocchi has gentian I wonder (never having had Cocchi) is instead of dashes of ango a few drop of gentian liqueur would add the desired profile to Lillet.
Fox Two in regards to chilling and temperature, stirring is just inefficient shaking. It takes 12-15 seconds to reach equilibrium when shaking whilst over 2 minutes of stirring will not reach that point. Shaking also introduces aeration but I’d stick with stirring for spirit-forward drinks.
I love the scene in the movie where Daniel Craig as Bond orders this. It really seals him as becoming "Bond". I think a lot of people were expecting another Bond movie and really didn't like Craig as Bond, but the film was so much about how Bond became who he was as an agent. Everything from the way he treats women to his first kill earning the 007 status and his favorite drink. Casino Royale is my favorite Bond film, I'm so glad you did this drink! Of courses, stirred NOT shaken!!
Back when I was in highschool I used to admire Steve's passion ...I would love to become an international bartender & mixologist Please show me how to make Clementine Martini ...
I believe there’s a lot of misconception around the use of ‘parts’ or ‘measures’. A ‘part’ or ‘measure’ is whatever the bartender makes it, provides that it stays consistent across the individual drink. Being English, it’s likely Bond was assuming measurements of 25ml (the standard English pour, rather than Australia’s 30ml). The Vesper is probably 75ml Gordon’s, 25ml Vodka, and 12.5ml Kina Lillet. In Casino Royale, however, the drink is made in France, which uses (more or less) 30ml pours. The Gordon’s used was the old 47% ABV version, and the vodka was actually over 50%. Should be shaken, not stirred.
Yes, I'm aware of parts.. it's just a ratio. I did mention that if you did translate the ratio as 1 part = 1 oz then it would be too much, hence why I lowered the recipe. In saying that, I changed the ratios too by increasing the Cocchi Americano (mentioned this in the first comment).. but yes, some people probably do confuse parts and measures. Spirits vary everywhere - in Australia Gordon's is only 37% and I think (I could be wrong) it's at least 40% in the US. You say that it "should be shaken, not stirred"... it doesn't have to be.. if I prefer to stir it, I can... hell, if I wanted to serve it hot in a bucket I could because I make it how I prefer, I'm not James Bond! 😂
Parts are infinite, measures are not. You can have a part that measures 500 ounces if you want, as long as it's the same for all ingredients. So 1 part gin and 2 parts vodka is 500 ounces of gin and 1000 ounces of vodka (hypothetically because that's a huge drink)if you want to make it smaller you can can the base measurement to 10 ounces = 1 part as long as you do the same for all ingredients. That's my understanding of it
Hi Steve! I'm new to making Cocktails and I appreciate your videos. I have a question... Would you recommend trying Vodka with Martini Fiero (as a substitute for Dry Vermouth and Orange bitters)?
The hefty measurements that Bond asked for were deliberate. If you read through the original novels, Bond is essentially described as a functional alcoholic, he is CONSTANTLY drinking, presumably to cope with the reality that he is basically a paid killer for the government. Anyways, I just recently found your channel and subscribed, love the vids so far, keep it up! And I think the "shaken, not stirred" request by Bond was deliberate as well, shaking gets the drink cold faster, which presumably allows him to get drunk more quickly.
Lillet Blanc lists quina quina as an ingredient on the bottle. I also remember the first time I opened a bottle that it definitely had a whiff of tonic water to it. This leads me to believe that the ingredient is still present. It could have been reduced in the re-release or maybe people were mis-remembering the original flavour profile thinking it had a more pronounced quinine note.
Hello sir, how r u Lillet blanc n cocchi Americano is not available in India so can I replace with martini blanc or any substitute which I can use in martini n plz reply
Would be sick to win a set, recently I got into mixing coctails for friends and so far they all loved it. So far, I bought me a shaker and this set would help me to try out new recipes :D Good luck to you guys :)
Hello steve I know it's weird to ask a question like this in the comments but I have recently gettin more into making cocktails and I think it is definatly gonna be a hobby of sorts but I was wondering what do you think are the drinks/liquor/mixers that I should own for beginner level cocktails? :)
According to the book, probably... it was probably also served in a martini glass instead of a Nick & Nora too... and it was made with Kina Lillet instead of Cocchi Americano but I wasn't trying to make Ian's original drink to a tee - I was making a tasty Vesper how I would recommend and make it :-) I prefer not to shake my spirit forward drinks.
@@StevetheBartender_ That assumes facts not in evidence. How many people do you honestly think if blindfolded, could tell the difference between shaken and stirred? Four or five percent? This is a dispute about nothing.
@@scottmcdonald3345 I was asking a genuine question. Nothing to do with this drink in the video - would you prefer me to show the “traditional” method even if it produces a worse drink OR show a better method?
@@StevetheBartender_ But what if you had been? Steve, the 6ft 5in bartender who always shows up to pull James out of a tight spot. Ian missed that one!
I see you're getting a lot of crap for stirring. In my book, do as you please. However, there are a couple things to keep in mind. One, in the books James Bond was quite fond of American spirits (he actually drank more bourbon than anything else) and the request for a shaken Martini could be a nod to what used to be called the American Method (and since the martini is an American cocktail, presumably that was the OG way of doing things). Two, he did order other types of Martinis and they were almost always stirred, so he could have been trying to stay sober while giving the impression that he was quite drunk.
What part of "shaken, not stirred" don't you understand? Also, by your own admission the massive chunk of lemon peel you dumped in there has totally changed the nature of the drink, particularly because you made it half the size it should be. Appreciate the effort but not sure there's much that's authentic about this drink.
Drinks are subjective. If you prefer to shake it, go right ahead.. If you prefer a smaller twist, that's your call... but I don't believe I referred to it as the most authentic Vesper? 🤔
@@StevetheBartender_ Fair enough. I just think you should acknowledge that the vast majority of people searching out this video are interested in the drink as it was made famous in Casino Royale. Might have been wise to spend a bit more time explaining up front that you're demonstrating your own hybrid and maybe link to a version that shows the original. Just a thought.
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I failed to mention this is also an adapted version as well as being a smaller scaled recipe - this recipe is heavier on the Cocchi Americano then that in the book. You can check out the GIVEAWAY in the first link below (2 for anyone to win, 1 reserved for Patreon subs:
- GIVEAWAY: bit.ly/stb-giveaway
- PATREON: bit.ly/stb-patreon
- STANDARD SPOON BARWARE: bit.ly/standard-spoon
Now I gotta do a bond marathon and make the vesper for every movie. Cheers Steve 👌
You mentioned that Cocchi has gentian I wonder (never having had Cocchi) is instead of dashes of ango a few drop of gentian liqueur would add the desired profile to Lillet.
Stephane Foisy I’ll give it a try tomorrow and report back 👌
awesome!!! how do i enter as a patron though? do i just have to use the same email address?
Ok, admit it. You didn't like this drink, did you.
He stirred a James Bond beverage :O
Yep, I'm not James Bond and I don't like my spirit forward drinks shaken!
@@StevetheBartender_ My name is Bartender .. Steve the Bartender
@@KurtMifsudBonnici 😂
@@StevetheBartender_ Does it make much difference in taste or temperature? It seems like stirring wouldn't chill it as much
Fox Two in regards to chilling and temperature, stirring is just inefficient shaking. It takes 12-15 seconds to reach equilibrium when shaking whilst over 2 minutes of stirring will not reach that point. Shaking also introduces aeration but I’d stick with stirring for spirit-forward drinks.
Hell of a drink, the Vesper. One of my go-tos.
I love the scene in the movie where Daniel Craig as Bond orders this. It really seals him as becoming "Bond". I think a lot of people were expecting another Bond movie and really didn't like Craig as Bond, but the film was so much about how Bond became who he was as an agent. Everything from the way he treats women to his first kill earning the 007 status and his favorite drink. Casino Royale is my favorite Bond film, I'm so glad you did this drink! Of courses, stirred NOT shaken!!
Binge watching your vids & kudos to you for clear & simple instructions/descriptions of everything.
A Fan!
An oldie but goody! Well done Steve!
Thanks AA!
Always man! Love your channel! I have to get down to Oz!
Sounds like an interesting drink. JB would be proud! Thanks for sharing, Steve!
Pretty potent... I'd like to try it again and go even heavier on the Cocchi Americano..
Steve you beat me to it. My vesper video is coming out this week too. Great job. Whats next?
mate where's that cheesy grim while you're stirring?
I was already 4 cocktails deep....haha
This is the best spec for the Vesper!
I agree =)
Definitely a favourite but limited to use Lillet.
Great video Steve. The set looks dope.
Can you make a Carajillo for us? Delicious coffee drink.
I do love coffee cocktails!! Feel free to add it to the list: stevethebartender.com.au/suggest-a-cocktail
Back when I was in highschool I used to admire Steve's passion ...I would love to become an international bartender & mixologist
Please show me how to make Clementine Martini ...
I have Lillet and Angostura...will have to try the substitute version as I have not seen Cocchi around here
I love a vesper martini !!!! Cheers!!🍸🍸🍸🍸
Welcome 246493!
I believe there’s a lot of misconception around the use of ‘parts’ or ‘measures’. A ‘part’ or ‘measure’ is whatever the bartender makes it, provides that it stays consistent across the individual drink.
Being English, it’s likely Bond was assuming measurements of 25ml (the standard English pour, rather than Australia’s 30ml).
The Vesper is probably 75ml Gordon’s, 25ml Vodka, and 12.5ml Kina Lillet. In Casino Royale, however, the drink is made in France, which uses (more or less) 30ml pours.
The Gordon’s used was the old 47% ABV version, and the vodka was actually over 50%.
Should be shaken, not stirred.
Yes, I'm aware of parts.. it's just a ratio. I did mention that if you did translate the ratio as 1 part = 1 oz then it would be too much, hence why I lowered the recipe. In saying that, I changed the ratios too by increasing the Cocchi Americano (mentioned this in the first comment).. but yes, some people probably do confuse parts and measures.
Spirits vary everywhere - in Australia Gordon's is only 37% and I think (I could be wrong) it's at least 40% in the US.
You say that it "should be shaken, not stirred"... it doesn't have to be.. if I prefer to stir it, I can... hell, if I wanted to serve it hot in a bucket I could because I make it how I prefer, I'm not James Bond! 😂
Parts are infinite, measures are not. You can have a part that measures 500 ounces if you want, as long as it's the same for all ingredients. So 1 part gin and 2 parts vodka is 500 ounces of gin and 1000 ounces of vodka (hypothetically because that's a huge drink)if you want to make it smaller you can can the base measurement to 10 ounces = 1 part as long as you do the same for all ingredients.
That's my understanding of it
Hi Steve! I'm new to making Cocktails and I appreciate your videos.
I have a question... Would you recommend trying Vodka with Martini Fiero (as a substitute for Dry Vermouth and Orange bitters)?
Woohooh! Thank you for making my requested cocktail! Cheers!
The hefty measurements that Bond asked for were deliberate. If you read through the original novels, Bond is essentially described as a functional alcoholic, he is CONSTANTLY drinking, presumably to cope with the reality that he is basically a paid killer for the government. Anyways, I just recently found your channel and subscribed, love the vids so far, keep it up! And I think the "shaken, not stirred" request by Bond was deliberate as well, shaking gets the drink cold faster, which presumably allows him to get drunk more quickly.
Lillet Blanc lists quina quina as an ingredient on the bottle. I also remember the first time I opened a bottle that it definitely had a whiff of tonic water to it. This leads me to believe that the ingredient is still present. It could have been reduced in the re-release or maybe people were mis-remembering the original flavour profile thinking it had a more pronounced quinine note.
Yes, I believe it still has it... but most people seem to agree that the profile is different.
Hi, what happened to the diy creme of coconut? Great channel by the way. Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
Here it is: ruclips.net/video/roASIPHeYOw/видео.html
Viewing with "45 seconds ago" tag. Earliest I've ever checked out a video. Hope you're all having good days!
Damn you're quick! >_
Those jiggers look great, fingers crossed for a win but even if I luck out it's almost Xmas so one WILL be mine, oh yes... (wait, wrong movie 😂)
This looks nice good luck to everyone on the comp
Much of a martini man Aiden?
@@StevetheBartender_ not sure i will be having my first one this weekend hopefully
Hello sir, how r u
Lillet blanc n cocchi Americano is not available in India so can I replace with martini blanc or any substitute which I can use in martini n plz reply
Here is a recipe so you can make it yourself: ruclips.net/video/CVZhgAAd_cc/видео.html
@@StevetheBartender_
Thank you for the reply
This drink is fantastic! I had it once without scaling back the 3 parts and got really buzzed off one drink. Strong.
Lol, no doubt!
Would be good with Grey Goose and Hendricks. Its crucial to use a quality liquor in a martini!
He stirred that on PURPOSE 😂
I don’t have lillet..with one I have to buy?please,,’
Wow I would love to try that , Mr.Bond drink!
Eva Green. 🔥
Who's Eva? ;)
Would be sick to win a set, recently I got into mixing coctails for friends and so far they all loved it. So far, I bought me a shaker and this set would help me to try out new recipes :D
Good luck to you guys :)
U said it right kokki 👍
Thanks!
Hello steve I know it's weird to ask a question like this in the comments but I have recently gettin more into making cocktails and I think it is definatly gonna be a hobby of sorts but I was wondering what do you think are the drinks/liquor/mixers that I should own for beginner level cocktails? :)
Yay!!! Drink I’ve been waiting for
How about some Lakka cocktails or Blood orange cocktails thanks.
That squeaky cork made my day!
Such a good sound!
Could u make a bunch if ways to make a bloody mary?
Sorry BeeBoy but that sounds like my nightmare!! I really don't like tomato juice! >_
@@StevetheBartender_ oh come on!😂 im in love with it
@@StevetheBartender_ Do a bloody Cesar, honestly much better than a bloody mary IMO, If you need the Clamato I'm willing to ship you some.
@@johncumberland6999 oh ya! Clamato is way better
@@johncumberland6999 Lol, Clamato is even worse (to me)!
Hi Steve!
Cyprian brandy sour would be nice 😁👌🏻
Dude, what part of "shaken, not stirred" eludes you? 😂
I prefer not to shake spirit forward cocktails as I prefer not to over dilute them, watch here: ruclips.net/video/MAAQkLSetcE/видео.html
Isn't this drink traditionally shaken since Ian Fleming invented the drink?
According to the book, probably... it was probably also served in a martini glass instead of a Nick & Nora too... and it was made with Kina Lillet instead of Cocchi Americano but I wasn't trying to make Ian's original drink to a tee - I was making a tasty Vesper how I would recommend and make it :-) I prefer not to shake my spirit forward drinks.
@@StevetheBartender_ wow all this time I heard the name of the glass as something Japanese like Nikkanora
@@Blamm83 Hehe, Nick & Nora Charles are characters from a B&W movie from way back...
@@StevetheBartender_ thanks for clarifying, I tend to make it the same way with cocchi. Thanks for another consise well put together video
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I don’t send spam. I send a weekly summary of cocktails. You don’t have to enter if you don’t want to..
Perfect, you had me until you stirred it!??? 😳. Does “shaken, not stirred ring any bells”?
Because it was written in a book doesn’t make it better :)
@@StevetheBartender_ I didn’t say better, but to make a Vesper martini AUTHENTIC, it is shaken as stated in the book and the movie.
@@scottmcdonald3345 so you would prefer me to make bad drinks on the channel if it means it’s more authentic?
@@StevetheBartender_ That assumes facts not in evidence. How many people do you honestly think if blindfolded, could tell the difference between shaken and stirred? Four or five percent? This is a dispute about nothing.
@@scottmcdonald3345 I was asking a genuine question. Nothing to do with this drink in the video - would you prefer me to show the “traditional” method even if it produces a worse drink OR show a better method?
I really like the way you make cocktails and I hope to win your gift away btw im from indonesia😆
Why are you stir ?? Only shake it because james Bond love cool Drink
...because this is how I prefer to make it. I'm not a character out of one of Ian Fleming's book ;)
@@StevetheBartender_ But what if you had been? Steve, the 6ft 5in bartender who always shows up to pull James out of a tight spot. Ian missed that one!
The winners of the giveaway?!!
"Shaken, not stired"
Shaken not stirred
Sure, shake your martinis if you prefer..
I see you're getting a lot of crap for stirring. In my book, do as you please.
However, there are a couple things to keep in mind. One, in the books James Bond was quite fond of American spirits (he actually drank more bourbon than anything else) and the request for a shaken Martini could be a nod to what used to be called the American Method (and since the martini is an American cocktail, presumably that was the OG way of doing things). Two, he did order other types of Martinis and they were almost always stirred, so he could have been trying to stay sober while giving the impression that he was quite drunk.
Thanks Alex! Don’t worry, I’m thick skinned so can take a lot of negative feedback - no stress at all ;-)
Good God man... shaken not stirred.
Watch the movies, read the book.
No thanks.. I prefer not to overdilute or have ice shards in a vesper/martini.
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Yo yo yo...
Bratan, why you use New Zeland vodka, Russian vodka is better.
What part of "shaken, not stirred" don't you understand? Also, by your own admission the massive chunk of lemon peel you dumped in there has totally changed the nature of the drink, particularly because you made it half the size it should be. Appreciate the effort but not sure there's much that's authentic about this drink.
Drinks are subjective. If you prefer to shake it, go right ahead.. If you prefer a smaller twist, that's your call... but I don't believe I referred to it as the most authentic Vesper? 🤔
@@StevetheBartender_ Fair enough. I just think you should acknowledge that the vast majority of people searching out this video are interested in the drink as it was made famous in Casino Royale. Might have been wise to spend a bit more time explaining up front that you're demonstrating your own hybrid and maybe link to a version that shows the original. Just a thought.
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No toothy grin. Bummer
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