@@warlockpaladin2261 the same is in _any_ mechanical watch without pendulum: one spring to power entire mechanism, one for balance wheel. The second spring plays the same role for balance as gravitation for pendulum.
Not necessarily, theres many jobs in big swiss watchmaking companies that will get you only a little above minimum wage. Independant watchmakers have a lot of expenses so margins are not huge.@@oceanbytez847
The tourbillon was first theorized by John Arnold, Breguet's close friend, but died before he could actually make one. Breguet gave the first tourbillon to Arnold's son who had apprenticed under Breguet. Breguet had also sent his own son to apprentice under Arnold - they were that tight.
Man, I just started 3D printing and thought I'd just end up printing random bits of plastic. The quality and ingenuity of your designs are really inspiring and I look forward to following along with your new 100 day challenge.
Naw.try no computers and the knowledge we used to get came from research at the actual library in a sea of books. To get knowledge in the early days was even more difficult because they were riding horses and buggy and library materials was still not available like it was after 1900s
Gyro tourbillons weren't invented in 1800-1900 for pocket watches. The single axis tourbillon were invented in that period and were used to average out positional deviations of the balance wheel. You can adjust a watch to be accurate to one orientation but it'll deviate if you put it in a different orientation because of gravity. A tourbillon tries to average out the different deviations so that the watch is more accurate
I remember reading somewhere that they were made for sailing. The motion of the ocean made it hard to keep time like you said. And I think you’re right about the pocket watch thing, too. Im pretty sure they were for clocks on the wall of a ship.
It’s spelt “tourBILLON” not “….BILLION”. Funnily enough I made that exact same mistake about 15 minutes ago when I first read up about the “tourbillon” in watches! The reason I looked it up at all was because I was curious why “billion” was in that word! I though it was trying to “big up” the watch…like it was really expensive or something! Lol! That shows how ignorant I am of horology.
@Ollitopay. I’m sure that’s another invention you’re thinking of. I recall seeing a documentary about that subject on the BBC some years back. I think that was something to do with a gyroscopic action, but I could be wrong…
@DaddyVet2.0 Disagree. It's a huge learning curve, and the ptfe tube hotends come with constant clogs and jams. It's enough to have already made thousands of people rage quit and sell their printers. There's just so much stuff that goes wrong, most people don't have the patience and time to invest into these things. It can be overwhelming. Then, even after you learn everything. It can be a hassle doing constant maintenance. They require so much time and effort, for some people, it's just not worth it. They rather just buy the prints they want instead. I have a Phaetus Dragonfly hot end coming in the mail. The PTFE tube set up has driven me crazy. Hopefully this will get my printer back in action.
@DaddyVet3D you say Don't listen to the guy above you. But in your second comment you are the guy above you. Just thought that was interesting. Keep 3D printing 🙂
I could not get why you would make such a complex mechanism. When you told it was to do with gravity and precision, I was amazed. So smart! That watch was crazy too! :)
I will print this but modify it with a stepper motor that constantly keeps the spring tensioned, so it can run without human input and makes for a nice desk or shelf sculpture.
I am gobsmacked - I thought the tourbillon was just a gimbal cage that let the drive mechanism stay upright no matter what orientation the watch was in (not sure how I thought power was transferred from a free-rotating gimbal cage to a watch). This makes SO much more sense
I don't think you're wrong though. There's no room for the mechanism to freely spin in the watches like that. They would have to be extremely thick. Unless the workings have changed for wrist watches today and he's showing an older traditional.
Every time I feel like society is becoming a lil more primitive, I search for clockwork videos like these to remind me of how insanely genius these mechanisms are...
No, just accustomed to casual miracles. There is an electronic circuit with more components then that entire watch, operating on timings hundred of times as precise, and so small that it could sit happily on the tourbillon’s hairspring, whose entire function is to read the inputs on your keyboard (Or touchscreen, if you’re on a phone.) That’s to say nothing of the feats of international co-orperation, decades of research by thousands of engineers and computer scientists, and the labour of millions to create a wold-wide information network to carry this video, to you, for the cost of a few advertisements. And you consider these feats, unthinkable to humanity at the time of the Tourbillon’s invention, so mundane and trivial you consider humanity to have *regressed.*
I'd like to add that tourbillons while looking fantastic are completely unnecessary in today's mechanical wrist watches as you're constantly moving the escapement (and your wrist) into different positions. If i had the money though I'd buy me a JLC Gyrotourbillon 😅
I think that it'd be neat to make that contraption with a mount to hold a cheap mechanical watch as a place to keep the watch when not on the owner's wrist, so that it keeps better time, reducing the inaccuracies to just the daytime when the owner is wearing it. Also, I'd like to see a 3D printed "Curta," a mechanical calculator.
You should make one that's the newest, 3D version of the tourbillon. If you haven't heard of it I recommend to look it up; if you thought a normal tourbillon was cool, that thing will blow your mind.
Although the build quality is such that that a non-tourbillon watch would be far more accurate To be fair, most of the tourbillon watches also come with materials+brand that justify the price. When I was bought the wife's wedding ring (at Cartier) after I paid I asked to try on their £120k watch for a minute and it honestly was impressive. I could imagine wearing that thing and asking anyone for anything, I can honestly see why top businessmen get in on the expensive watch thing, it just fills you with the idea that you own a room. (I didn't get it, although I do have an expensive Breitling)
The "hair spring" is springy because of the type of plastic used in this example. Resin might be too brittle for that piece. Worth a try though don't you think?
it is not exactly anti-gravity, per se. You see as it rotates the gravity pulls it down from another angle which effectively just makes it more accurate than your regular movement. In your average watch gravity pulls on one single side, but on a tourbillion it is evenly distributed.
I'm surprised that Micro Center would sponsor a RUclips video, given that they don't exactly have stores everywhere like some companies do. But I'm lucky enough to have one nearby and they're great!
They sponsor a LOT of YT vids. Probably worthwhile for them, because they also have an online store, so it helps to grow both their web and physical sales.
I don't speak French, but to my ears your pronunciation of "tourbillon" sounds pretty fantastic, and I'm grateful for the lesson on how to actually pronounce it...because I keep having to correct myself after accidently saying, "tor-billion"...
While it's quite a few more pieces to put together and while understanding that it's a delicate thing, I still don't understand why this justifies the prices for such watches to be that much higher. Because If you understand how the parts interact, it's actually a very simple design and when you got the parts, the plans for the assembly and the hands of a watch maker, then it should be "simple" for an expert to put together? Basically it's just a gear turning it one way and a second gear turning it once more. That will be 200k more please.
how much would it cost to sell this? I would have this running on my desk all day. So cool. And about the only Tourbi I'll ever afford or spend money on.
Did they use these on ships that required them to maintain accuracy from Greenwich time as they sailed east or west to determine longitude. Latitude was found by measuring the angle of star Polaris.
These aren't precise enough to keep absolute time for a many-week or month-long sea voyage and get a good longitude measurement. If you really want to learn about the clocks the British used to solve longitude, Drachinfel has a great video about the longitude problem, the shocking precision of the clocks that were used, and some of the crazy alternative ideas that were floated.
12 years ago I invested into a 3d printing company and the founders made me believe that 3d printing will change how people innovate and how complex objects would be printed at home easily. During this time the 3d printing market far exceeded my expactations. However, the company I invested managed to bankrupt few years ago. Seeing the future is only a part of the success. Let's not forget that.
The verbal description is a little off... The reason you need the tourbillion is not to offset the force of gravity, but rather, to offset the effect of changing the physical position of the watch throughout the day, as it is differentially affected by gravity.
So if you have a cnc or laser cutter you could scale down the 3d print models, assemble and make a $500k watch at home since linking this to the hands of the watch itself would just be a manner of setting up gear reduction sizes so it moves at the right rates on each hand. Quite fidly and fine in the nature of the work outside of using it for wall clocks but if you could even get a return a fraction of the $500k pricemark such pieces go for you could start a business marketed toward exclusivity and elite product lines.
Thanks for watching! If you like the video don't forget to subscribe! 🙂
That’s a tri-axial tourbillon
There are two springs! Are they just kicking each other's energy back and forth using the cogs' rotation steps as conduits? 🤨
more simple, not more simpler
@@warlockpaladin2261 the same is in _any_ mechanical watch without pendulum: one spring to power entire mechanism, one for balance wheel. The second spring plays the same role for balance as gravitation for pendulum.
This is actually a good example of a gyro-tourbillon, would be really cool on my desk (I work at a watch company)
you must be banking because holy cow i never realized watches could be sold for 6 figures. The profit margin must be huge!
Not necessarily, theres many jobs in big swiss watchmaking companies that will get you only a little above minimum wage.
Independant watchmakers have a lot of expenses so margins are not huge.@@oceanbytez847
You work at a watch company? What do you watch?
@@le9038watch do you watch
They watch Mojo@@le9038
The tourbillon was first theorized by John Arnold, Breguet's close friend, but died before he could actually make one. Breguet gave the first tourbillon to Arnold's son who had apprenticed under Breguet. Breguet had also sent his own son to apprentice under Arnold - they were that tight.
Brilliant piece of information 🎉
He was one in tourbillion
Man, I just started 3D printing and thought I'd just end up printing random bits of plastic. The quality and ingenuity of your designs are really inspiring and I look forward to following along with your new 100 day challenge.
Things like this AMAZE me. Thinking about how people would design & make these without computers or 3D CAD is astonishing.
Naw.try no computers and the knowledge we used to get came from research at the actual library in a sea of books.
To get knowledge in the early days was even more difficult because they were riding horses and buggy and library materials was still not available like it was after 1900s
Gyro tourbillons weren't invented in 1800-1900 for pocket watches. The single axis tourbillon were invented in that period and were used to average out positional deviations of the balance wheel. You can adjust a watch to be accurate to one orientation but it'll deviate if you put it in a different orientation because of gravity. A tourbillon tries to average out the different deviations so that the watch is more accurate
I remember reading somewhere that they were made for sailing. The motion of the ocean made it hard to keep time like you said. And I think you’re right about the pocket watch thing, too. Im pretty sure they were for clocks on the wall of a ship.
@@Ollitopay Jupp. Called chronometers.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronometer_watch
It’s spelt “tourBILLON” not “….BILLION”.
Funnily enough I made that exact same mistake about 15 minutes ago when I first read up about the “tourbillon” in watches!
The reason I looked it up at all was because I was curious why “billion” was in that word!
I though it was trying to “big up” the watch…like it was really expensive or something! Lol!
That shows how ignorant I am of horology.
@Ollitopay. I’m sure that’s another invention you’re thinking of. I recall seeing a documentary about that subject on the BBC some years back.
I think that was something to do with a gyroscopic action, but I could be wrong…
@@terrypussypower You're right, it's tourbillon. No idea why I ended up spelling tourbillion. Maybe some autocorrect suggested that spelling.
You learn something new all the time when watching a 3D Printer Academy video!
Great video!
This is so cool. Makes me want to buy my own 3d Printer.
Be warned, they are finicky devices. Also, if you do get one, you should learn how to 3D Model and use CAD
@DaddyVet2.0 that's very true, but some people might not find that fun.
@DaddyVet2.0 Disagree. It's a huge learning curve, and the ptfe tube hotends come with constant clogs and jams. It's enough to have already made thousands of people rage quit and sell their printers. There's just so much stuff that goes wrong, most people don't have the patience and time to invest into these things. It can be overwhelming. Then, even after you learn everything. It can be a hassle doing constant maintenance. They require so much time and effort, for some people, it's just not worth it. They rather just buy the prints they want instead. I have a Phaetus Dragonfly hot end coming in the mail. The PTFE tube set up has driven me crazy. Hopefully this will get my printer back in action.
@DaddyVet3D i also disagree and agree with @venthril
@DaddyVet3D you say Don't listen to the guy above you. But in your second comment you are the guy above you.
Just thought that was interesting. Keep 3D printing 🙂
I could not get why you would make such a complex mechanism. When you told it was to do with gravity and precision, I was amazed. So smart! That watch was crazy too! :)
Sometimes people get into complexity for the hell of it! 🤯
When he said the price of the tourbillon watch I was like "400? I might just save up and- THOUSAND??? Nevermind that!"
I truly love mechanical artworks and the harmonious coordination of numerous mechanical details! Thank u for video
This is incredible. It really makes me want to invest in a 3d printer.
do it, it's totally worth it
What a piece for display. Beautiful
I will print this but modify it with a stepper motor that constantly keeps the spring tensioned, so it can run without human input and makes for a nice desk or shelf sculpture.
I am gobsmacked - I thought the tourbillon was just a gimbal cage that let the drive mechanism stay upright no matter what orientation the watch was in (not sure how I thought power was transferred from a free-rotating gimbal cage to a watch). This makes SO much more sense
I don't think you're wrong though. There's no room for the mechanism to freely spin in the watches like that. They would have to be extremely thick. Unless the workings have changed for wrist watches today and he's showing an older traditional.
Every time I feel like society is becoming a lil more primitive, I search for clockwork videos like these to remind me of how insanely genius these mechanisms are...
No, just accustomed to casual miracles.
There is an electronic circuit with more components then that entire watch, operating on timings hundred of times as precise, and so small that it could sit happily on the tourbillon’s hairspring, whose entire function is to read the inputs on your keyboard (Or touchscreen, if you’re on a phone.)
That’s to say nothing of the feats of international co-orperation, decades of research by thousands of engineers and computer scientists, and the labour of millions to create a wold-wide information network to carry this video, to you, for the cost of a few advertisements.
And you consider these feats, unthinkable to humanity at the time of the Tourbillon’s invention, so mundane and trivial you consider humanity to have *regressed.*
@@watchm4kercalm down nerd
Thank you for explaining how it works
"You can get it for about 4 hundred" me: *hey I might get one* "THOUSAND dollars" *oh.*
They are available for under $300 from Chinese brands.
I've wanted to know about this for about 10 years now.
This is mind blowing. Great work!
Got a link to the STL? If not, credits to the original files?
I came to the comments looking for the same thing
@@sillylung bro dont reply getting my hopes up. :(
@@nahbroT_T I was hoping you were replying with the link
@@sillylung lol
That is so cool! At first I was like this reminds me of a watch and as I watched and learned so much more I was right. Great educational video bro ❤
Just grate. Beautiful, informative and fun.
This would be a nice little fun desk toy to have
you films are perfect your 3D printer is pro
watch makers: "it is very difficult to make tourbillon watches. this is why they are very expensive"
this guy: "lemme 3D print gyro tourbillon"
Because it is, at the scale they're doing. You'd need steady hands to work anything on a watch with small gears and/or bearings.
such a beautiful print
Awesome build! But are the STL files available? Or credits to original creator?
I'd like to add that tourbillons while looking fantastic are completely unnecessary in today's mechanical wrist watches as you're constantly moving the escapement (and your wrist) into different positions. If i had the money though I'd buy me a JLC Gyrotourbillon 😅
amazing. ASMR from all of the clicking!
also how on earth do they get the gears so small in the $400k watch?! intricate
Ahhh the new Jacob & Co. So elegant, refined and yet strong . You need a 2 foot square fishtank to put it in 😂😂
I think that it'd be neat to make that contraption with a mount to hold a cheap mechanical watch as a place to keep the watch when not on the owner's wrist, so that it keeps better time, reducing the inaccuracies to just the daytime when the owner is wearing it.
Also, I'd like to see a 3D printed "Curta," a mechanical calculator.
Amazing video! 🙂
You should make one that's the newest, 3D version of the tourbillon. If you haven't heard of it I recommend to look it up; if you thought a normal tourbillon was cool, that thing will blow your mind.
3D prints a quartz crystal
There’s also some basic, fairly decent Chinese tourbillon watches available now for around $400
Although the build quality is such that that a non-tourbillon watch would be far more accurate
To be fair, most of the tourbillon watches also come with materials+brand that justify the price. When I was bought the wife's wedding ring (at Cartier) after I paid I asked to try on their £120k watch for a minute and it honestly was impressive. I could imagine wearing that thing and asking anyone for anything, I can honestly see why top businessmen get in on the expensive watch thing, it just fills you with the idea that you own a room.
(I didn't get it, although I do have an expensive Breitling)
Make it in shiny bronze and you'll have a functioning steampunk gadget.
Awesome, love it!
You need to put watch, and tourbillon in the title and the video may blow up towards people who love watches and that type of movement
Clueless innocent : magic doesn't exist.
Clockmakers : *YOOOOO CHECK DIS BROTHA*
This is so cool
This helped. Was the information I wanted to know.
Would a resign printer be better for printing out these parts to have a smaller tolerance between the gear teeth?
The "hair spring" is springy because of the type of plastic used in this example. Resin might be too brittle for that piece. Worth a try though don't you think?
@@miketilleyprint the gears with resin, the spring with abs!
It's an amazing 3D print, but exactly how is it anti-gravity ??
it is not exactly anti-gravity, per se. You see as it rotates the gravity pulls it down from another angle which effectively just makes it more accurate than your regular movement. In your average watch gravity pulls on one single side, but on a tourbillion it is evenly distributed.
@@bluamethyst3107 That's a really good explanation, thank you 👍😆
Anti-gravity as in opposing gravity. This is a bit tongue in cheek since, by that definition, standing up makes you an anti-gravity machine.
I'm surprised that Micro Center would sponsor a RUclips video, given that they don't exactly have stores everywhere like some companies do. But I'm lucky enough to have one nearby and they're great!
They sponsor a LOT of YT vids. Probably worthwhile for them, because they also have an online store, so it helps to grow both their web and physical sales.
@@Nevir202 Oh, didn't realize they had an online store now!
This is amazing. Did you go to college? What did you get diploma in? Are you a watchmaker?
Jacob and Co took some notes from this 3d print
Yooo, thats cool looking!!
I believe it was originally made for chronographs to cancel out the effects of gravity and position of the chronograph thus improving accuracy.
I don't speak French, but to my ears your pronunciation of "tourbillon" sounds pretty fantastic, and I'm grateful for the lesson on how to actually pronounce it...because I keep having to correct myself after accidently saying, "tor-billion"...
I double L in French is a long E in English. French is a bit odd.
it's kinda cringe and exaggerated, so don't follow him too closely
@@asialskypas du tout
While it's quite a few more pieces to put together and while understanding that it's a delicate thing, I still don't understand why this justifies the prices for such watches to be that much higher. Because If you understand how the parts interact, it's actually a very simple design and when you got the parts, the plans for the assembly and the hands of a watch maker, then it should be "simple" for an expert to put together? Basically it's just a gear turning it one way and a second gear turning it once more. That will be 200k more please.
Holy shit, Micro Center still exists???
Pretty cool video.
I love this,I want one.❤️
"You can get it for four hundred..."
me "Oh thats aight"
"- THOUSAND DOLLARS"
me : "nvm"
I've seen the intended purpose: I've never seen if it actually makes watches more accurate.
I love to have one of those on my desk
how much would it cost to sell this? I would have this running on my desk all day. So cool. And about the only Tourbi I'll ever afford or spend money on.
2:36 I knew it reminded me of a gyrostabilizer.
3:20 Why not just 3D print the watch itself?
Did they use these on ships that required them to maintain accuracy from Greenwich time as they sailed east or west to determine longitude. Latitude was found by measuring the angle of star Polaris.
These aren't precise enough to keep absolute time for a many-week or month-long sea voyage and get a good longitude measurement.
If you really want to learn about the clocks the British used to solve longitude, Drachinfel has a great video about the longitude problem, the shocking precision of the clocks that were used, and some of the crazy alternative ideas that were floated.
@@thamiordragonheart8682 Thanks for the info, I will check out the link.
Is there files available to 3d print this
Y would I subscribe when there isn't a link at the top to download all the .STL files to build one myself?
Are the plans for this available anywhere? I dont see them on your site ... thanks!
Do you have an STL?
"400" wow that doesn't sound right at all, I was sure it'd be a lot more. "Thousand dollars." *Ahhhhh*, there we are.
"...to fire this weapon for twelve seconds."
What was the purpose of building this complex mechanism question mark
I always thought that the Tourbillon was a gimmick. Something extremely complex but does it really enhance accuracy?
12 years ago I invested into a 3d printing company and the founders made me believe that 3d printing will change how people innovate and how complex objects would be printed at home easily. During this time the 3d printing market far exceeded my expactations. However, the company I invested managed to bankrupt few years ago. Seeing the future is only a part of the success. Let's not forget that.
Seems like this would have been a good invention for making a more accurate ships chronometer.
where did you download the blueprints for 3D printing?
Can you make a 3D Tourbillon model like Jaeger-Lecoultre has?
How does the power get transferred to the watch hands? 🤔
Link to the project? I think I saw it online in the past but I cannot find it anymore. The video description provides nothing.
3:17 "You can get it for 400... (that sounds pretty che..) thousand doll hairs" yea that name does sound expensive 😮
He's a Swedish dwarf in Overwatch. His purpose is to build turrets.
If it’s spinning how can it transfer movement to the other gears to move the hands?
3D print? Love the lego vibe
Does it have a motor
I'm a watch guy , I would love to have one of these to explain a gyro tourbillion to my nephew
Nevermind I commented too early
Great description........sarkasm
Hi, great model, how can we get a 3D model ? Thanks
The verbal description is a little off... The reason you need the tourbillion is not to offset the force of gravity, but rather, to offset the effect of changing the physical position of the watch throughout the day, as it is differentially affected by gravity.
"It costs about 400..."
Me: Oh, expensive but I could afford it!
"...thousand dollars"
Me: I couldn't afford it in ten lifetimes.
What is the source for a 3D printed one of these that I can buy?
Thanks,
Scott
Where is the stl file for this? Why would the stl not be linked??
My life is a tourbillon of nightmares.
Where can I get the printable 3D file for this design?
I wonder how much better it keeps time
I bet it's made to keep time in a watch by averaging out forces from moving around.
Damn it. I don't have $400000 for a tourbillon watch.
You can buy one from China for about $500. Seagull makes one.
Looks like a 'whirlwind' to me!
where can i find the stl ?
Tourbillon is a cool piece of engineering. But Tourbillon watches are EXPENSIVE.
Where do I get one (the plastic version)?
That’s pretty cool. Looks like you could sell that for 1 million dollars
I think I want to buy a 3D printer .I have an idea about textile that takes 3 cotton yarn and makes a new yarn or can be used for fishing lines .
I recommend the new Bambu Lab A1 Mini to get started. it’s small but affordable and easy to use.
I'll just wear a quartz watch and be done with positional deviations. Sometimes the point of diminishing returns is too obvious.
Where to buy please 🙏
I wonder if this has any uses in astronomy, specifically for tracking a star’s orbit across the sky
So if you have a cnc or laser cutter you could scale down the 3d print models, assemble and make a $500k watch at home since linking this to the hands of the watch itself would just be a manner of setting up gear reduction sizes so it moves at the right rates on each hand.
Quite fidly and fine in the nature of the work outside of using it for wall clocks but if you could even get a return a fraction of the $500k pricemark such pieces go for you could start a business marketed toward exclusivity and elite product lines.
That model have this price more because of material. You can buy normal ones for 3 or 5k. The normal range for these good watches
They always remind me of analog inertia guidance system.