If I'm not mistaken Captain Rex WAS the new fordo as it's canon that Rex underwent some degree of arc training and his preferred choice of blaster is duel DC 17 pistols and he bares the jaeg eyes on his helmet which very few clones earned he's honestly a blue modern day fordo, and with Rex's introduction back when we first saw him we could pretty much kiss fordo goodbye forever, but maybe I'm wrong
i hope they find his armour, it would devalue the original story, as much as i love sev he should stay dead his sacrifice was important to be kept a sacrifice imo
We'll never know why George and Dave didn't bring Fordo into the Clone Wars series. But in my personal opinion, Fordo would have outshone every clone in the show. He would have stolen the spotlight entirely. He may not be in the canon, but he'll always be in the hearts of die-hard Clone Wars fans and fans of Legends and the EU. Because to many, that is the true Clone Wars and the true canon to the fans who grew up with those stories.
As much as I'd love to see him return, it seems that Rex is his spiritual successor/equivalent. Much of the Clone Wars following new canon was overwritten by the 2008 series, and major battles such as Muunilinst and Hypori - Ventress and Grievous first appearance, respectively - are referenced with ambiguity in new canon. It's possible for events to have gone a bit differently to be consistent with 2008 Clone Wars. Quite a few lore channels would misinterpret Rex, Cody, Wolffe, etc. as trainees of Fordo in canon when for the most part they went above and beyond their training and capacity to get where they are. They at least made it clear that Arc Troopers are involved in training newer batches of clones, yet the canon Arc themselves prob worked their way to their rank while Legends had clones predetermined to become Arc Troopers specifically trained by Jango and co. I'm sure Fordo hasn't been entirely forgotten and can be slotted into new canon, but he would lose his novelty in Legends. Rex and the other fan favorite clones seem to be filling the role of the few named clones we were introduced to in Legends. I guess all we need to be filled in on is the rest of Delta Squad because they're canon and were pretty fleshed out even for their time in Legends. Overall, Legends and Canon tell great stories in their own way, with new canon paying homage to Legends (heck, even Ventress used some of her magics to survive in Legends)
I doubt it. They're completely different types of clones and, if anything, Rex would probably look up to Fordo in a way. Fordo is an Alpha class ARC trooper, one of only 100, and he was personally trained by Jango Fett alongside the other 99 Alpha ARCs. Rex, on the other hand, was just a regular infantry officer who, alongside Cody, Bly, Neyo, Gree, and most of our other favorite commanders, was given special training in Alpha-17's ARC Training Program. Since Rex was trained by Alpha-17, who was one of the clones that grew up and trained alongside Fordo, Rex would likely view Fordo with some admiration.
We actually did get Fordo in Canon... kinda. So, I believe it was in 2010 or 2011, but we got a TCW Arc Troopers 3.75" figure pack. It included Captain Rex, two ARC Troopers (I believe one of them was Havoc), and a figure they called an 'ARC Trooper Commander'. This commander looked pretty much exactly like a TCW-style Captain Fordo, which is kinda weird combined with the other ARCs in the pack, but a super cool reference!
That would not be considered Canon even if that were the case I'm afraid. Most external media that was related to TCW put in a lot of effort to try and make excuses for why the show didn't fit with the EU timeline, and thus didn't really fit with TCW's story anyway
Arc troopers were assigned to defend Kamino? I don't think that's quite right... You have Hammer, Blitz, Colt and Havoc were on Kamino to help train the clones before Domino squad deployed, and were there a few months to a year later, but thats not to say they were there the whole time.
A lot of characters, not just Clones, are completely ignored by the Filoniverse. Sure we may have gotten a few glimpses, but Neyo, Baccara, Bly, Appo, Fordo, Boss, Sev, Fixer, etc etc are just lightly touched upon, yet we see Rex and gang all the time.
i feel like the reason he is not here is because 1. Filoni greatly favors his own characters he made over others 2. Fordo would be inconsistent because TCW and other Disney show clones definitely feel significantly somewhat weaker and just like regular humans with only aging modifications than the spartan-esque super soldiers they are presented as in the 2003 series and pre TCW lore like republic commando
I'd say Fordo would fit in fine amongst the current canon clones. You have to remember that Fordo, being an Alpha class ARC trooper, was always WAY more skilled than any regular infantry trooper, which was by design as the Alphas were created to be superior in every way to the other clones in the GAR.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102Except the idea of Alpha ARCs engineered for the job is exclusively Legends. They'd have to introduce the whole idea while simultaneously explaining why it isn't in other products.
@richardched6085 That's easy to do, though. There were only 100 Alpha ARCs, out of an army made up of millions of clones. There are almost no stories in canon that involve ARCs of any kind, so they could very easily just make a comic or something that would recanonize the Alphas and just have it be that we didn't see them in the Clone Wars or any of the previous comics because they were off doing other important missions. I mean, they're already on their way to recanonizing the Alphas because they recanonized ARC trooper Muzzle, who was an Alpha ARC, and they made it canon that some ARCs were originally designed for that purpose on Kamino and weren't just promoted to the role.
Filoni seems to have a problem with the og vlone commanders. Bacara was never shown, neo was in the background for like 5 seconds, green and bly only featured in the first season, appo is in one single episode as a seargent and cody didnt feature much after the 3rd season. As mich as I like rex he stole SO much spotlight from all the other commanders.
Bacara actually did appear in TCW, but it was only for a split second in hologram form in the opening of the first episode of the Siege of Mandalore arc.
If there is a Ventress and Omega spin off, it would be nice of them to run into Fordo and Sev on Kashyyyk. Perhaps hanging with Quinlan Vos! How cool would that be?
If they do make a tales of the clones series, and there is a fordo episode, it should be at the battle of kamino, as it would make sense for Fordo to be there with his squad since he is an elite arc trooper so.
I mean, that's probably because Fordo has ONLY appeared in the 2003 Clone Wars series. There isn't a single mention of Fordo in any of the novels, shows, or games, other than that first Clone Wars show. Nearly everything we know about Fordo, which is actually very little, has come from source books or toy packaging.
@orckingi1208 Oh, absolutely, he's probably my favorite clone both because of nostalgia and the fact that he is both an incredibly effective clone AND is pretty honorable. For example, one of the few things we know about Fordo is that, because of his rescue of the Jedi on Hypori, he received the Chancellor's Service Medal (one of the highest honors a soldier in the Republic can receive) but instead of keeping it, he had it posthumously awarded to CT-43/002, who was the only member of his squad to die during the Muunilinst campaign.
It’s wild how they took out Republic Commando from the cannon, despite that fact I will still believe it’s cannon since now we don’t know ANYTHING they did during the entire clone wars
I’m just scared they might rush out the bad batch season 3 finale because it’s not 16 episodes it’s 15 this time and we don’t have a lot of episodes left…
No leave him be so they don’t ruin him leave the good clones and legends and as far as I’m concerned, that’s not the real scorch. The only clones I care about is the ones in legends.
@@tk-6967 yah the eu Disney has fucked up too much shit and I don’t trust them anymore and that’s why I’m sticking the legends or the expanded universe as you call it
I like to think Fordo is still around somewhere and that his adventures are still canon, until otherwise stated. Hell the Battle of Hypori is canon, so why not?
I mean, there isn't anything in the current canon that contradicts the Alpha ARCs, so, until otherwise, I'd sy they're canon. I mean, an Alpha ARC by the name of Muzzle was brought into canon through one of the Fantasy Flight game books, so I'm sure other Alphas like Fordo and Alpha-17 will be brought back into canon at some point through some form of media.
It’s very doubtful that Fordo will ever be featured in anything especially since he’s a legends character now. I think they may have taken inspiration from him when creating captain Rex.
No. Rex was supposed to be ARC trooper Alpha from the comics, but George ordered the name change because he felt too many characters in the TCW film had the first letter in their name as 'A', and thank god he did because Alpha and Rex are completely different characters personality wise
the reason why fordo was not put into the clone wars animated tv show is because they decided scrap his character and put rex in his place instead. I don't think they will add him into the cannon but it would be cool if they did I am happy though that they made the change to rex because let's be honest the clone wars show wouldn't be as awesome without him.
Rex isn't based on Fordo, or anyone really. Superficially, Rex is based on ARC trooper Alpha, but George forced them to make him a different character (for George reasons, not because he cared), and thank goodness he did, because Rex and Alpha are so different as characters that I know that Filoni was going to commit some serious character assassination on him, worse than Grievous even.
I honestly hope that he will not appear in Canon, Dave Filoni or anyone will probably just nerf him that he'll end up like TCW Grievous or Ventress, also I feel like they would make him resist Order 66 for no reason instead of staying loyal to the Empire and I'd honestly rather see Clone Troopers training Stormtroopers or anything than just leaving because they are old or because they realize that The Empire is evil. I'm kinda tired of seeing characters that had great story in Legends getting ruined in Canon (like Barriss Offee) - I'd only accept if they would get Tartakovsky and the series that Fordo would appear in will be good rather than just fan service and some cool moments while also retconning stuff from Legends.
I mean, he probably will be recanonized at some point, but it will most likely be a battle of Hypori situation where he'll get a brief mention in a book or a comic and then never appear on screen.
It makes no sense for ARCs to be on Kamino the whole time when it literally stands for ADVANCED RECON. I can’t imagine Fives & Echo would have been so passionate about becoming ARC if that were actually the case. And wasn’t Rex supposed to be ARC also? I thought the Kama & pauldrons were ARC swag?
Expanded is talking about the pre-TCW EU. ARC troopers were fricking monsters in that and were so dangerous that they were only deployed during the Battle of Kamino (which happened much earlier than in TCW), but then TC made them wimps and screwed up most EU lore, so they don't exist anyways in Canon, including Fordo
I’m sorry but there is no way ARC troopers were assigned to Kamino. They are literally some of the best singular soldiers in the Army of the republic only to be assigned guard duty on Kamino? NO chance.
Yeah, I think he confused the fact that the four ARCs of Rancor Battalion (Colt, Blitz, Havoc, and Hammer) being stationed on Kamino meant that all ARCs were stationed on Kamino, which isn't the case.
Expanded is talking about the pre-TCW EU. ARC troopers were fricking monsters in that and were so dangerous that they were only deployed during the Battle of Kamino (which happened much earlier than in TCW), but then TC made them wimps and screwed up most EU lore, so they don't exist anyways in Canon, including Fordo
@tk-6967 You do realize that the Alpha ARCs in Legends weren't only used during the first battle of Kamino, right? The Alphas were woken from stasis for that battle, yes, but after that, they were sent in to service on numerous missions throughout the Clone Wars. Alpha ARCs were seen deployed to Muunilinst, Jabiim, Hypori, Coruscant, and many, many other planets. Also, an Alpha ARC, Muzzle, was actually recanonized in one of the Fantasy Flight game books.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Muzzle is listed only as a 'defective ARC trooper' and Aurodium Sword was said to have been founded during the Republic, which isn't at all what happened. Also, the Fantasy Flight game books and other Canon materials are largely ignored and contradicted by Filoni, and since most people make the baseless assumption that this means they are retconned, largely this becomes a de facto retcon. Thus, Muzzle's reappearance is meaningless since he is listed only as 'an ARC trooper'
No, it really isn't that surprising. Fordo is an ARC trooper very much of his era in Star Wars lore, that being one of the Karen Traviss era clone troopers. Traviss is widely liked by EU fans and anyone with any real knowledge on pre-TCW characterization of clones will know her stuff, but Filoni evidently doesn't care for her work or the general pre-TCW lore whatsoever. Just look at what Filoni has done to clone commandos. People love to claim that he 'cares' about the RC game, but it is evident that he is just using them as a cheap reference. I mean he has introduced these 'elite operatives' and made commandos act as glorified base guards who are only slightly more challenging (or rather, less incompetent) than the other bad guy mooks of the show. *If he cared about commandos, shouldn't they be the elite operatives? After all, that was their entire job!* Heck, they can't even see in the dark anymore, even though anyone who's played Republic Commando can tell you that their helmets do have the capability of night vision. So much for the 'Republic Commando HUD reference' from the Cad Bane Bracca episode, eh? Filoni also clearly wants to largely portray the clones in a positive light. This is why he changed Cody fundamentally in S2 from a guy who would follow orders into some kind of mournful depressed guy to the point that he would desert, which doesn't line up with his character. This is also why he avoids showing characters like Bacara, Neyo, etc. because those clones are *clearly negative,* and changing their characters so drastically would definitely be picked up on and not be a good look for the show. For the same reason, he has avoided portraying ARC troopers and commandos as anything more than background characters/superficial titles for important characters. I mean, really, what is the difference between Gregor, Fives and Jesse from the other clones aside from their armour and I guess a bit more 'eliteness'? The titles and positions of ARC trooper and Commando have been rendered practically meaningless. Because if they were meaningful and lore accurate, the so-called 'Clone Rebellion' wouldn't have happened.
All ARC troopers being stuck on Kamino is just completely false information. There were literally only four ARCs stationed on Kamino, those being Colt, Blitz, Havoc, and Hammer. There are a LOT more ARCs in the GAR than just those four, and the others certainly aren't stuck on Kamino.
@tk-6967 How does that contradict Legends? The Alpha ARCs were kept in stasis on Kamino for a time, yes, but they were never stationed there after they were woken up. All ARCs in Legends were stationed on Coruscant with the Special Operations Brigade.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 The EU ARC troopers can no longer exist due to TCW, that is simply a fact. There are some great videos explaining how TCW contradicts ridiculously large chunks of EU lore.
@tk-6967 Maybe the story of them being kept in stasis until the battle of Kamino can't be canon, but there is literally nothing contradicting the existence of the Alphas. The ARC Training Program is still canon, and it was headed by an Alpha ARC in Legends. The promoted ARCs still fit in fine with the Alpha ARCs because of course the GAR would want more than just 100 ARCs, so they had a few Alphas train up some regular infantry troopers to create more ARCs for the army. I mean, literally the exact same thing happened in Legends with the commandos where, when the GAR needed more RCs, a lot of infantry troopers got cross-training to turn them into commandos, which is explicitly mentioned in the Republic Commando novels with clones like Corr, so I don't see why the same thing can't happen with the ARCs.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Yes, but ARC troopers in Canon are implied to only be a rank, not additional training. And no, the Alphas can't exist. That is simply a fact because ARC troopers are shown to be a rank of trooper, not an elite unit, and this was even demonstrated to be the case towards the beginning of the war in the episode 'Rookies'.
Do you think we will ever see Fordo again?
I doubt it
@@AnakinSkywalker-qe2rk I agree with *Padawan* Skywalker
That’s Jedi knight skywalker
@@AnakinSkywalker-qe2rk Mr. *Fell outta the Windu* would say otherwise
If I'm not mistaken Captain Rex WAS the new fordo as it's canon that Rex underwent some degree of arc training and his preferred choice of blaster is duel DC 17 pistols and he bares the jaeg eyes on his helmet which very few clones earned he's honestly a blue modern day fordo, and with Rex's introduction back when we first saw him we could pretty much kiss fordo goodbye forever, but maybe I'm wrong
I'm still shocked they didn't bring Sev into the Bad Batch. So many cool clones left by the wayside
The fact that they went to Kashyyyk too and could have totally tied in the end of RC with finding Sev is such a shame
i hope they find his armour, it would devalue the original story, as much as i love sev he should stay dead his sacrifice was important to be kept a sacrifice imo
Revive Sev ☠️
Revive Ventress 😏
@k90v85 sev didn’t sacrifice himself
@@Thejuicemerchant he kinda did
We'll never know why George and Dave didn't bring Fordo into the Clone Wars series. But in my personal opinion, Fordo would have outshone every clone in the show. He would have stolen the spotlight entirely.
He may not be in the canon, but he'll always be in the hearts of die-hard Clone Wars fans and fans of Legends and the EU. Because to many, that is the true Clone Wars and the true canon to the fans who grew up with those stories.
As much as I'd love to see him return, it seems that Rex is his spiritual successor/equivalent. Much of the Clone Wars following new canon was overwritten by the 2008 series, and major battles such as Muunilinst and Hypori - Ventress and Grievous first appearance, respectively - are referenced with ambiguity in new canon. It's possible for events to have gone a bit differently to be consistent with 2008 Clone Wars.
Quite a few lore channels would misinterpret Rex, Cody, Wolffe, etc. as trainees of Fordo in canon when for the most part they went above and beyond their training and capacity to get where they are. They at least made it clear that Arc Troopers are involved in training newer batches of clones, yet the canon Arc themselves prob worked their way to their rank while Legends had clones predetermined to become Arc Troopers specifically trained by Jango and co.
I'm sure Fordo hasn't been entirely forgotten and can be slotted into new canon, but he would lose his novelty in Legends. Rex and the other fan favorite clones seem to be filling the role of the few named clones we were introduced to in Legends. I guess all we need to be filled in on is the rest of Delta Squad because they're canon and were pretty fleshed out even for their time in Legends.
Overall, Legends and Canon tell great stories in their own way, with new canon paying homage to Legends (heck, even Ventress used some of her magics to survive in Legends)
I feel like Rex and Fordo would be rivals for some reason. Maybe they’d have a contest in some way.
I doubt it. They're completely different types of clones and, if anything, Rex would probably look up to Fordo in a way. Fordo is an Alpha class ARC trooper, one of only 100, and he was personally trained by Jango Fett alongside the other 99 Alpha ARCs. Rex, on the other hand, was just a regular infantry officer who, alongside Cody, Bly, Neyo, Gree, and most of our other favorite commanders, was given special training in Alpha-17's ARC Training Program. Since Rex was trained by Alpha-17, who was one of the clones that grew up and trained alongside Fordo, Rex would likely view Fordo with some admiration.
I hope so. Fordo was such an amazing character, and his appearance would be very well-received.
We actually did get Fordo in Canon... kinda.
So, I believe it was in 2010 or 2011, but we got a TCW Arc Troopers 3.75" figure pack. It included Captain Rex, two ARC Troopers (I believe one of them was Havoc), and a figure they called an 'ARC Trooper Commander'.
This commander looked pretty much exactly like a TCW-style Captain Fordo, which is kinda weird combined with the other ARCs in the pack, but a super cool reference!
That was most likely Hammer.
That would not be considered Canon even if that were the case I'm afraid. Most external media that was related to TCW put in a lot of effort to try and make excuses for why the show didn't fit with the EU timeline, and thus didn't really fit with TCW's story anyway
If there was a tails of a clones tv show love to see howzer and him going through training and his Journey throughout the clone wars
Arc troopers were assigned to defend Kamino? I don't think that's quite right... You have Hammer, Blitz, Colt and Havoc were on Kamino to help train the clones before Domino squad deployed, and were there a few months to a year later, but thats not to say they were there the whole time.
A lot of characters, not just Clones, are completely ignored by the Filoniverse. Sure we may have gotten a few glimpses, but Neyo, Baccara, Bly, Appo, Fordo, Boss, Sev, Fixer, etc etc are just lightly touched upon, yet we see Rex and gang all the time.
I mean who wants to see neyo and Baccara 2 sociopaths
@@xyiuxthey probably no longer for the empire they also escaped and decided to either retire or join rex team for the clone rebellion
@@ILovePizzaAndKFC99502 Boo! I want more free thinking LOYAL Clones!
@@xyiux I do!
So much opportunity for a show
i feel like the reason he is not here is because 1. Filoni greatly favors his own characters he made over others 2. Fordo would be inconsistent because TCW and other Disney show clones definitely feel significantly somewhat weaker and just like regular humans with only aging modifications than the spartan-esque super soldiers they are presented as in the 2003 series and pre TCW lore like republic commando
I'd say Fordo would fit in fine amongst the current canon clones. You have to remember that Fordo, being an Alpha class ARC trooper, was always WAY more skilled than any regular infantry trooper, which was by design as the Alphas were created to be superior in every way to the other clones in the GAR.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102Except the idea of Alpha ARCs engineered for the job is exclusively Legends. They'd have to introduce the whole idea while simultaneously explaining why it isn't in other products.
@richardched6085 That's easy to do, though. There were only 100 Alpha ARCs, out of an army made up of millions of clones. There are almost no stories in canon that involve ARCs of any kind, so they could very easily just make a comic or something that would recanonize the Alphas and just have it be that we didn't see them in the Clone Wars or any of the previous comics because they were off doing other important missions. I mean, they're already on their way to recanonizing the Alphas because they recanonized ARC trooper Muzzle, who was an Alpha ARC, and they made it canon that some ARCs were originally designed for that purpose on Kamino and weren't just promoted to the role.
@@richardched6085 yea good point forgot to mention but in legends ARCs are created while in canon its just simply a rank lol
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Filoni seems to have a problem with the og vlone commanders. Bacara was never shown, neo was in the background for like 5 seconds, green and bly only featured in the first season, appo is in one single episode as a seargent and cody didnt feature much after the 3rd season. As mich as I like rex he stole SO much spotlight from all the other commanders.
Bacara actually did appear in TCW, but it was only for a split second in hologram form in the opening of the first episode of the Siege of Mandalore arc.
Neyo is minimum shown in three scenes during the “d-squad” arc
Maybe he's that clone assassin.
This would be amazing ❤
He was a great character, but we probably won't see him again.
He would have been perfect for Clone Wars back in the day 😔
@@expandedshorts he definitely would've been one of the main clones for sure.
Lets be Happy Knowing there not gonna make a fool of his characters
They'd somehow ruin or diminish his abilities and professional nature. It's probably for the best that he be confined to EU.
I would love tales of the clones but I'm gonna need like 1.8 million episodes of it
He's too OP
If there is a Ventress and Omega spin off, it would be nice of them to run into Fordo and Sev on Kashyyyk. Perhaps hanging with Quinlan Vos! How cool would that be?
Fordo gone Carry on
If they do make a tales of the clones series, and there is a fordo episode, it should be at the battle of kamino, as it would make sense for Fordo to be there with his squad since he is an elite arc trooper so.
I feel like if we see him in canon, it’ll be phase 1
They just can't give him a second chance
The only time I have seen Fordo outside of the 2003 Clone Wars series were in Legends, EU, and fan animation.
I mean, that's probably because Fordo has ONLY appeared in the 2003 Clone Wars series. There isn't a single mention of Fordo in any of the novels, shows, or games, other than that first Clone Wars show. Nearly everything we know about Fordo, which is actually very little, has come from source books or toy packaging.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 That's true. There isn't all that much that we know about Fordo. Yet he is a beloved clone by many fans.
@orckingi1208 Oh, absolutely, he's probably my favorite clone both because of nostalgia and the fact that he is both an incredibly effective clone AND is pretty honorable. For example, one of the few things we know about Fordo is that, because of his rescue of the Jedi on Hypori, he received the Chancellor's Service Medal (one of the highest honors a soldier in the Republic can receive) but instead of keeping it, he had it posthumously awarded to CT-43/002, who was the only member of his squad to die during the Muunilinst campaign.
I think fordo turned into Rex. They just gave him a 501st paintjob.
1:01 man I never realised how dumb they were in this scene, they stand with their backs TO cover instead of putting it infront of them and peeking
It’s wild how they took out Republic Commando from the cannon, despite that fact I will still believe it’s cannon since now we don’t know ANYTHING they did during the entire clone wars
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I’m just scared they might rush out the bad batch season 3 finale because it’s not 16 episodes it’s 15 this time and we don’t have a lot of episodes left…
No leave him be so they don’t ruin him leave the good clones and legends and as far as I’m concerned, that’s not the real scorch. The only clones I care about is the ones in legends.
You mean the Expanded Universe. But otherwise, I agree
@@tk-6967 yah the eu Disney has fucked up too much shit and I don’t trust them anymore and that’s why I’m sticking the legends or the expanded universe as you call it
We need tales of the clones
Don't lose faith
I like to think Fordo is still around somewhere and that his adventures are still canon, until otherwise stated. Hell the Battle of Hypori is canon, so why not?
I mean, there isn't anything in the current canon that contradicts the Alpha ARCs, so, until otherwise, I'd sy they're canon. I mean, an Alpha ARC by the name of Muzzle was brought into canon through one of the Fantasy Flight game books, so I'm sure other Alphas like Fordo and Alpha-17 will be brought back into canon at some point through some form of media.
It’s very doubtful that Fordo will ever be featured in anything especially since he’s a legends character now. I think they may have taken inspiration from him when creating captain Rex.
No. Rex was supposed to be ARC trooper Alpha from the comics, but George ordered the name change because he felt too many characters in the TCW film had the first letter in their name as 'A', and thank god he did because Alpha and Rex are completely different characters personality wise
The reason why fordo isnt in the clone wars is because he got replaced with rex. Thats why they have the same symbol on their helmets.
No we will never see him or delta squad
the reason why fordo was not put into the clone wars animated tv show is because they decided scrap his character and put rex in his place instead. I don't think they will add him into the cannon but it would be cool if they did I am happy though that they made the change to rex because let's be honest the clone wars show wouldn't be as awesome without him.
Rex isn't based on Fordo, or anyone really. Superficially, Rex is based on ARC trooper Alpha, but George forced them to make him a different character (for George reasons, not because he cared), and thank goodness he did, because Rex and Alpha are so different as characters that I know that Filoni was going to commit some serious character assassination on him, worse than Grievous even.
I honestly hope that he will not appear in Canon, Dave Filoni or anyone will probably just nerf him that he'll end up like TCW Grievous or Ventress, also I feel like they would make him resist Order 66 for no reason instead of staying loyal to the Empire and I'd honestly rather see Clone Troopers training Stormtroopers or anything than just leaving because they are old or because they realize that The Empire is evil. I'm kinda tired of seeing characters that had great story in Legends getting ruined in Canon (like Barriss Offee) - I'd only accept if they would get Tartakovsky and the series that Fordo would appear in will be good rather than just fan service and some cool moments while also retconning stuff from Legends.
Agreed. I honestly forgot that Barriss stayed on the good side in the og 2003 CW.
I mean, he probably will be recanonized at some point, but it will most likely be a battle of Hypori situation where he'll get a brief mention in a book or a comic and then never appear on screen.
@@KLUCZESIA Well, and in ROTS
No. They Pretty much turned Fordo in Rex
It makes no sense for ARCs to be on Kamino the whole time when it literally stands for ADVANCED RECON. I can’t imagine Fives & Echo would have been so passionate about becoming ARC if that were actually the case. And wasn’t Rex supposed to be ARC also? I thought the Kama & pauldrons were ARC swag?
Expanded is talking about the pre-TCW EU. ARC troopers were fricking monsters in that and were so dangerous that they were only deployed during the Battle of Kamino (which happened much earlier than in TCW), but then TC made them wimps and screwed up most EU lore, so they don't exist anyways in Canon, including Fordo
I’m sorry but there is no way ARC troopers were assigned to Kamino. They are literally some of the best singular soldiers in the Army of the republic only to be assigned guard duty on Kamino? NO chance.
Yeah, I think he confused the fact that the four ARCs of Rancor Battalion (Colt, Blitz, Havoc, and Hammer) being stationed on Kamino meant that all ARCs were stationed on Kamino, which isn't the case.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 you right
Expanded is talking about the pre-TCW EU. ARC troopers were fricking monsters in that and were so dangerous that they were only deployed during the Battle of Kamino (which happened much earlier than in TCW), but then TC made them wimps and screwed up most EU lore, so they don't exist anyways in Canon, including Fordo
@tk-6967 You do realize that the Alpha ARCs in Legends weren't only used during the first battle of Kamino, right? The Alphas were woken from stasis for that battle, yes, but after that, they were sent in to service on numerous missions throughout the Clone Wars. Alpha ARCs were seen deployed to Muunilinst, Jabiim, Hypori, Coruscant, and many, many other planets. Also, an Alpha ARC, Muzzle, was actually recanonized in one of the Fantasy Flight game books.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Muzzle is listed only as a 'defective ARC trooper' and Aurodium Sword was said to have been founded during the Republic, which isn't at all what happened. Also, the Fantasy Flight game books and other Canon materials are largely ignored and contradicted by Filoni, and since most people make the baseless assumption that this means they are retconned, largely this becomes a de facto retcon.
Thus, Muzzle's reappearance is meaningless since he is listed only as 'an ARC trooper'
No, it really isn't that surprising. Fordo is an ARC trooper very much of his era in Star Wars lore, that being one of the Karen Traviss era clone troopers. Traviss is widely liked by EU fans and anyone with any real knowledge on pre-TCW characterization of clones will know her stuff, but Filoni evidently doesn't care for her work or the general pre-TCW lore whatsoever.
Just look at what Filoni has done to clone commandos. People love to claim that he 'cares' about the RC game, but it is evident that he is just using them as a cheap reference. I mean he has introduced these 'elite operatives' and made commandos act as glorified base guards who are only slightly more challenging (or rather, less incompetent) than the other bad guy mooks of the show. *If he cared about commandos, shouldn't they be the elite operatives? After all, that was their entire job!*
Heck, they can't even see in the dark anymore, even though anyone who's played Republic Commando can tell you that their helmets do have the capability of night vision. So much for the 'Republic Commando HUD reference' from the Cad Bane Bracca episode, eh?
Filoni also clearly wants to largely portray the clones in a positive light. This is why he changed Cody fundamentally in S2 from a guy who would follow orders into some kind of mournful depressed guy to the point that he would desert, which doesn't line up with his character. This is also why he avoids showing characters like Bacara, Neyo, etc. because those clones are *clearly negative,* and changing their characters so drastically would definitely be picked up on and not be a good look for the show.
For the same reason, he has avoided portraying ARC troopers and commandos as anything more than background characters/superficial titles for important characters. I mean, really, what is the difference between Gregor, Fives and Jesse from the other clones aside from their armour and I guess a bit more 'eliteness'? The titles and positions of ARC trooper and Commando have been rendered practically meaningless. Because if they were meaningful and lore accurate, the so-called 'Clone Rebellion' wouldn't have happened.
Did he do order 66
He is part of legends not cannon
All ARC troopers being stuck on Kamino is just completely false information. There were literally only four ARCs stationed on Kamino, those being Colt, Blitz, Havoc, and Hammer. There are a LOT more ARCs in the GAR than just those four, and the others certainly aren't stuck on Kamino.
Which is one of many reasons why TCW is contradictory to actual EU lore and thus ARC troopers from the EU can no longer exist as they did before.
@tk-6967 How does that contradict Legends? The Alpha ARCs were kept in stasis on Kamino for a time, yes, but they were never stationed there after they were woken up. All ARCs in Legends were stationed on Coruscant with the Special Operations Brigade.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 The EU ARC troopers can no longer exist due to TCW, that is simply a fact. There are some great videos explaining how TCW contradicts ridiculously large chunks of EU lore.
@tk-6967 Maybe the story of them being kept in stasis until the battle of Kamino can't be canon, but there is literally nothing contradicting the existence of the Alphas. The ARC Training Program is still canon, and it was headed by an Alpha ARC in Legends. The promoted ARCs still fit in fine with the Alpha ARCs because of course the GAR would want more than just 100 ARCs, so they had a few Alphas train up some regular infantry troopers to create more ARCs for the army. I mean, literally the exact same thing happened in Legends with the commandos where, when the GAR needed more RCs, a lot of infantry troopers got cross-training to turn them into commandos, which is explicitly mentioned in the Republic Commando novels with clones like Corr, so I don't see why the same thing can't happen with the ARCs.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Yes, but ARC troopers in Canon are implied to only be a rank, not additional training. And no, the Alphas can't exist. That is simply a fact because ARC troopers are shown to be a rank of trooper, not an elite unit, and this was even demonstrated to be the case towards the beginning of the war in the episode 'Rookies'.