This student was a perfect example of why I hate this ADC [Challenger Coaching]

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  • @joshuajohnson2532
    @joshuajohnson2532 3 года назад +89

    I'd love to see a "I Keep it Taco" teaches Neace Jhin video!

    • @pkphantom
      @pkphantom 3 года назад +4

      "Neace learns to 'Keep it Taco,'" the video makes itself

    • @wryguy
      @wryguy 2 года назад +5

      Yeah Neace's lack of experience with Jhin was showing in this vid tbh

    • @PULAG
      @PULAG 2 года назад

      Chimichanga > Taco

  • @CjsEclipse93
    @CjsEclipse93 3 года назад +40

    honestly the breakdown talk with this guy at the end is one of your best coaching's in my opinion well said man I've watched you a lot not everyone thinks like you but this breakdown is well said

  • @Ultimahaxorpanda2131
    @Ultimahaxorpanda2131 3 года назад +131

    Please, please, please - skill your E at lvl3 or 4. It's a useful skill, you're missing half your utility without it. It can help you catch people from a distance, it can discourage some ganks, it helps with pushing immensely, especially does great damage on CC'd targets since they can't move out of it if they're CC'd and if they aren't CC'd then they're slown a ton. They function as little mini wards when you know where to place them too.
    Do not sleep on the traps.

    • @christophersantana2490
      @christophersantana2490 3 года назад +2

      not only that whoever has tp can tp on one i think

    • @joshuajohnson2532
      @joshuajohnson2532 3 года назад +10

      @@christophersantana2490 not anymore. at least not pre-14 minutes

    • @TestingTestTest-zr5jb
      @TestingTestTest-zr5jb 3 года назад +1

      There’s a reason why he’s gold.

    • @asnalem4391
      @asnalem4391 3 года назад +1

      @@TestingTestTest-zr5jb there is a reason neace didn't tell him to lvl it.

    • @TestingTestTest-zr5jb
      @TestingTestTest-zr5jb 3 года назад +1

      @@asnalem4391 probablly cuz the guy will never use it properly.

  • @TheFrozenPenguin96
    @TheFrozenPenguin96 3 года назад +80

    A little note on this type of jhin set up:
    if you run biscuit+timewarp tonic on jhin, please don't start doran+potion cuz you are not getting the most value of this rune set up here.
    the better starting items will be boots+4 or long sword+3.
    With this setup, you can just trade into the enemy and back away when needed. If your enemy started dorans+pot, you pretty much win all small trades and don't go in extended fights due to the 4 potions or 3 potions you have over them.

    • @nikolajkvistpedersen5151
      @nikolajkvistpedersen5151 3 года назад +6

      I was thinking the exact same thing. Biscuits+tonic runes is just all early though, i'd never do it on adc unless i was vs something REALLY poke heavy that i can't just dodge around.

    • @jju00
      @jju00 3 года назад +1

      @@nikolajkvistpedersen5151 The thing is that Jhin struggles a lot on lanning phase since he exposes himself after the 4th shot

    • @nikolajkvistpedersen5151
      @nikolajkvistpedersen5151 3 года назад +6

      @@jju00 That's Bull, that 4. shot gives movement speed anyway, he still has q+w and a support. You can't just ingage on a good Jhin that knows their autos.

    • @jju00
      @jju00 3 года назад

      @@nikolajkvistpedersen5151 you're still exposed to poke. Something like a good Xerath or Lux can punish you use your 4th shot close to the wave.

    • @nikolajkvistpedersen5151
      @nikolajkvistpedersen5151 3 года назад

      @@Hethalean The reload animation? Obv. You back off when reloading.

  • @evren-zt2ej
    @evren-zt2ej 3 года назад +30

    The discussion around "fragmenting the game" at 36:16 was really valuable - definitely going to try thinking this way in my future matches. Thanks, great coaching videos as always!

  • @thedanksoul
    @thedanksoul 3 года назад +5

    35:00 feels so true and in a sense, that is a reason why i want to master jhin, i will learn the game while always knowing i am at a disadvantage against most adcs, so i would feel accomplished and be able to transcend

  • @leeallen5132
    @leeallen5132 2 года назад +1

    "if you want myyyy opinion.. my.. Neace.. opinion.." as he buys time to google what to go

  • @thedewritos
    @thedewritos 3 года назад +122

    This student was trolling. He did not level up a single point in E until 23:56. He was playing without traps for half of the game.

    • @brannyfan
      @brannyfan 3 года назад +37

      It's honestly not too troll so that he can max his w damage faster, but I do agree he should have put a level in it around level 4

    • @thedewritos
      @thedewritos 3 года назад +54

      @@brannyfan so many situations where traps would have saved him from a gank or controlled the space around a fight better. He should have had it at level 4, maybe 5.

    • @marcusmeins1839
      @marcusmeins1839 3 года назад +2

      According to some comments on youtube. E on jhin is only good for vision mostly and in certain circunstances , matchups . not to mention it wastes mana that you can use with your Q to clear waves and W to stun the enemy .

    • @dakkonfury
      @dakkonfury 3 года назад +3

      @@ROB-cj4kq Good call, I know mid game using dark harvest + collector where I've one-shot a squishy that was at 60% health from max W range, that extra point in W can be clutch.

    • @sagerdude
      @sagerdude 3 года назад +9

      Also didnt place a single ward untill 11:35

  • @Lockk
    @Lockk Год назад +1

    Much more helpful video for me than the last one… thanks again neace!

  • @ronaldli5
    @ronaldli5 3 года назад +9

    I like how neace didn't pick up on the fact that jhin didn't have 25% of his kit the whole game.

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      OBVOUSLY he did, it's not needed OBVIOUSLY the dude carried the game without it, WTF is your point?

    • @Resengan21
      @Resengan21 2 года назад +1

      ​@@zeening you're trolling if you don't take jhin e lol

    • @orre9547
      @orre9547 2 года назад +1

      @@zeening dude chill 😭

  • @steelyakabigtonkatfan9734
    @steelyakabigtonkatfan9734 2 года назад

    I love ur opinion about dark Harvest and fleet its so eye opening for me. Its the mental that makes people win consistent.

  • @Magnolia_Presence
    @Magnolia_Presence 3 года назад +5

    I have been watching your videos and loving it.... I am slowly getting better at league just from these videos.

    • @ollep0lle
      @ollep0lle 3 года назад

      What did you learn? :)

    • @dreamsunfinished9512
      @dreamsunfinished9512 3 года назад +1

      yes I learned to ping more actively, started to identify when me and my team should do baron, my warding is also better and I've been also trying to get off locked camera. Neace's videos are very useful. 8)

  • @forceful373
    @forceful373 3 года назад +38

    I almost thought we would get a Caitlyn ADC gameplay. Sad. I really want to see some coaching on her

    • @calebwsurpris3
      @calebwsurpris3 3 года назад +1

      Right 😔

    • @-DWS
      @-DWS 3 года назад +3

      Wasnt she super nerfed?

  • @IllustrateLawYT
    @IllustrateLawYT 3 года назад +11

    Hmmm thoughts on not levelling the E for ages? I like to use mine as little extra wards and opportunities to root.

    • @TestingTestTest-zr5jb
      @TestingTestTest-zr5jb 3 года назад +5

      The traps are strong. You throw em as u run from a gank to slow, they work as mini wards, you throw em in team fights for slow and extra dmg. It’s giga tilting watching him play the way he does. The problem is someone like him going 14-2 will think that the way he’s playing is ok cuz he “performed well” based off scoreline

  • @michaelstimpfl9814
    @michaelstimpfl9814 6 месяцев назад

    14:35 what was that? Why would you ever go back, if you know that a bard, jinx and a xin zhao are above you? They have good cc and damage, xin can outrun you.

  • @XIII-TheBlackCat
    @XIII-TheBlackCat 3 года назад +17

    I love Zeri, her basic attack charged up is like a Caitlyn net

    • @nikolajkvistpedersen5151
      @nikolajkvistpedersen5151 3 года назад +2

      I hate her, almost nobody knows how to play her (i'm S3 atm). People just completely get rolled over on Zeri when i'm vs her cuss she miss 5 AA in a row and then just gets ignored until nexus blows up.

    • @tgw98
      @tgw98 3 года назад

      @@nikolajkvistpedersen5151 idk about that. 5 games 5 wins. And im not a godd player or sth but i can tell the champ might be the most broken without a hotfix release ever.

  • @woop625
    @woop625 3 года назад +5

    But how troll are the biscuits, has 2 until 19.30 and ends up selling them. I still dont know why anyone would go biscuit ever when you could go gathering storm and get so much free ad

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      i didnt catch that but thats pretty fuckin dumb.... even then why sell them and not take to lanea nd use quick? literally stupid af lol

    • @Arejen03
      @Arejen03 3 года назад +1

      Biscuits are only useful if u know you're gonna be poked out. But vs all in lanes you can pretty much go gathering this rune for movement speed

  • @carlospastorsempere
    @carlospastorsempere 3 года назад +36

    so tilting to see this guy not put a point o E until lvl 13...
    This guy is holding his habilities for ages, ffs, as a main jhin i am so tilted. XD
    Please, someone teach the guy that you have to Q before 4th shot to do more dmg and that E activates on asists if u lvl it up.
    Edit: the guy has good positioning during fights, maybe because of neace's advice, but he moves great, which is the most dificult part of playing jhin; but he will do much better with a couple of changes on the playstyle. Have to consider that he is not main jhin, he is main cait. Respectable

    • @crazysnill
      @crazysnill 3 года назад

      Jhin is so much easier than Cait tho. This guy just slow/trash at the game atm.

    • @marcusmeins1839
      @marcusmeins1839 3 года назад

      i think early E is very situational .

    • @Bob-tq9ny
      @Bob-tq9ny 2 года назад

      @@marcusmeins1839 E is one of the best fucking abilities, allows you to get out of so many ganks and help early skirmishes, also allows you to trap bushes to discourage enemies to hide in them.

  • @thatoneguy24241
    @thatoneguy24241 3 года назад +3

    Dark harvest was the move

  • @seth_capaldi
    @seth_capaldi 3 года назад +2

    I always get flamed for running berserker greaves on Jhin.... Berserker greaves on that champion is literally fleet footwork after a rapid fire cannon because of his passive if you build crit items, but every time you auto instead of the cooldown of charging fleet. Then you're free to take dark harvest and still have a 1 shot build.

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад +2

      this, idk why everyone picks that absolute dog shit rune... the healing is minimal, jhin has NO ability, be it high move speed or dashes or ANY movement abilities, so you CANNOT charge it quickly.... it is literally fuckin inferior in EVERY single way to dark harvest, which is FROM EXPERIENCE a FULL execute past 50% with a few items....... if a tiny 80 hp heal is gonna make the difference in your game then you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong. the same cannot be said about killing multiple people from half health in 1 shot.... that is EXTREMELY useful at EVERY stage of the game in EVERY scenario......

    • @asnalem4391
      @asnalem4391 3 года назад

      Berserkers give less movespeed because the base movespeed of 60 being inscreased by your passive is greater than the 45+the movespeed you get from the attack speed of the boots.
      because the base movespeed is calculated first (normal speed + boots) then that number gets increased by bonuses.

    • @asnalem4391
      @asnalem4391 3 года назад +2

      @@zeening Jhin doesn't have high movespeed???
      "critical strikes grant Jhin 10% (+ 0.4% per 1% bonus attack speed) bonus movement speed for 2 seconds."
      Literal only reason people run swiftness boots on him instead of steelcaps or mercs in most games is the movespeed in his passive. And you run fleet footwork to play on him not having dashes but improving his high movespeed.
      Of course in a scenario where you get to fiesta it and get a lot of stacks of harvest and people don't punish you by catching you for not having the synergy with ff you get more out of harvest. Vs good players fleet is the more consistent option.

  • @jongahimer5338
    @jongahimer5338 2 года назад +2

    I have the same problem with Jhin that I have in Ezreal at low elo. Generally the people that play them don't know basic adc gameplay,. They use the abilities as a crutch to make up for poor positioning, farming, trading etc... The major downside being they miss half their abilities in trades and forget they can auto attack. Jhin also drops a lot of kills early game due to his lackluster ability to damage anything that isn't paper thin. Great late into squishy comps though.

  • @daigorogreco1715
    @daigorogreco1715 3 года назад +3

    Neace: I always lean of feet"
    Kinky coach

  • @Rivetoni
    @Rivetoni 3 года назад +4

    Have taco coach you on jhin, could be fun

  • @histoomuch
    @histoomuch Год назад

    tips for new player what should I learn first?

  • @SteezyyGG
    @SteezyyGG 3 года назад +7

    this man using a home phone from 1995? that ring tone at 3:30 needs a fix asap

  • @mildchaos6037
    @mildchaos6037 3 года назад +1

    Jhin was my first main and I love him still

  • @abdessamadbougadi3012
    @abdessamadbougadi3012 2 года назад

    it really hurts how he doesn't use his E ever

  • @kazzardiusthetomato7968
    @kazzardiusthetomato7968 3 года назад +11

    Well Neace as a high Dimond non adc player who has played most roles and has started on adc. I have mainly played Jhin and Yes i have not made it to masters yet but i dissagree about Jhin being bad. You have to just know when to back down from a wave at times and go back to your tier 2 tower. ( When your support is roaming or you know you are getting ganked.) Also even though i do not go for kills i have had more of a success with Dark harvest but idk i just dont like the feeling of fleet. Makes no real difference in my experience. (also id never go inspiration).
    well im getting of track. My point is that Jhin is one of the better adc because even with a bad support you have impact and can with 3+ items peel and kite rather well yourself and you can always deal dmg even vs 3+ assasins due to your W and R. He is just played a bit different to other adcs. Hope this helps. If anyone has any question id love to anwser them.
    Ps: i do belive adc is the strongest role and i do also know i am one of the few people who see the potential and the "brokenness of adc".

    • @kazzardiusthetomato7968
      @kazzardiusthetomato7968 3 года назад +2

      I am awear that on the adc role there are some games which you can not carry. But the thing people forget is that every role has those games. They just feel worse on adc. (the games im talking bout is when your the 7/0 jhin and then you press tab on the 15 min mark and wonder why its 4 yes votes and you see the 20/0 vlad with ghost. and you manage to stay 0 deaths untill the 22:13 mark where vlad decides to flash Q on you and u die by 1 spell. (that was a fun game) :)

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад +2

      this, idk why everyone picks that absolute dog shit rune(fleet footwork)... the healing is minimal, jhin has NO ability, be it high move speed or dashes or ANY movement abilities, so you CANNOT charge it quickly.... it is literally fuckin inferior in EVERY single way to dark harvest, which is FROM EXPERIENCE a FULL execute past 50% with a few items....... if a tiny 80 hp heal is gonna make the difference in your game then you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong. the same cannot be said about killing multiple people from half health in 1 shot.... that is EXTREMELY useful at EVERY stage of the game in EVERY scenario......

    • @kazzardiusthetomato7968
      @kazzardiusthetomato7968 3 года назад +4

      @@zeening I think you need to calm down a bit :).

    • @jongahimer5338
      @jongahimer5338 2 года назад

      As a Plat Alistar main I generally get a bad feeling when someone locks Jhin or Ezreal as my adc. My personal goal is to win/snowball the lane every game and those picks generally result in a weak unreliable early game. I think a lot of time players pick those champs so they can get carried rather than do the carrying. There's nothing more tilting than landing the perfect engage just to have jhin throw a snare or ezreal Q into a minion and go back to afk farming. I know the champ is strong and can do very well, but when the majority of the player base uses it (the majority being low elo) as a crutch it feels much less reliable. If my adc is a jinx and I go in, I know they are going to follow up and deal damage, because they have to know how/when to auto/trade. I would take jhin over ezreal any day, but I would generally trade both for a jinx, vayne, draven, ashe, ziggs, veigar etc.

    • @evilerroryt8448
      @evilerroryt8448 2 года назад

      I disagree the only adcs that are "broken" are adcs that don't use adc items end of story...

  • @andyvanmuilekom7390
    @andyvanmuilekom7390 3 года назад +1

    Why no e though if u wanna hard shove its Nice and for some slows vision etc

  • @marcusmeins1839
    @marcusmeins1839 2 года назад

    i don't understand why almost all ADCs are always behind when they have the lvl 2 advantage and never trade anything .

  • @TheAcidJazzSituation
    @TheAcidJazzSituation 3 года назад +4

    Can someone explain me why Neace hate this pick ? I was going to follow his advice of sticiking with one chams and i choosed Jhin, and Mf as second . A seriuos explanation please.

    • @falsearbitrator2560
      @falsearbitrator2560 3 года назад +4

      I'm not sure why he doesn't like jhin. I find it super easy to climb with him. Pre galeforce I would get it. But jhin is much stronger now. But ya jhin and MF are my two main adcs with Vayne and Tristana as backups

    • @wolfking4556
      @wolfking4556 3 года назад +1

      I'm going to guess it has to do with him being utility-based which, in low elo, can be detrimental. Jhin is strong, yes, but the reasons why he's strong aren't really fully capitalized on at low elo/average SoloQ game. Especially at low elo, where you basically want to perma-shove to screw up their farm and their jungle decision making.
      Combine this with him being a mechanical outlier in the role and he's both a meh champion to climb there and a pick that isn't that helpful in fully learning ADC micro.

    • @tgw98
      @tgw98 3 года назад +5

      i rly like neace but i have the feeling he doesnt know the pick well. He never point out to skill the e, with that setup go for boots and pots and most important thing especially with a brand supp. Try to play more aggresive and zone the enemie with the 4th shot. Jhin is only bad if enemies got a big frontline

    • @munteanucatalin9833
      @munteanucatalin9833 3 года назад +3

      Because at higher levels of play, Jhin is extremely easy to exploit in the lining phase as an ADC. Also, it needs a team with a strong front line that does AOE damage or completely obliterates a champion in the engage.

    • @TheAcidJazzSituation
      @TheAcidJazzSituation 3 года назад

      I reached plat 4 in other seasons. Now im on gold 2 with 63% winrate i will try to reach high plat. At what elo jhin starts failing?

  • @Najzeko
    @Najzeko 3 года назад +2

    There's no way that not a single person has noticed that this coaching was already posted on the main channel lol right? This is literally the jhin coaching that was posted on the main channel on Jan. 24th
    Don't tell me they're deleting comments that point this out...

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      they have multiple re-uploads across main channels there have been a few times now, theres at least 2 where hes yelling at the client, then on this channel they upload a longer version of it with more content or with 2 games or something

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      neace def isnt deleting comments the only time mine get deleted is if i type fuck too much or insult people too egregiously, and thats by youtube's dog shit auto filter not neace anyways

    • @wryguy
      @wryguy 2 года назад

      TIL there are multiple channels. What's supposed to be the difference between this one and the Neace channel?

  • @royjonesgaming4756
    @royjonesgaming4756 3 года назад +2

    I have a question, I expect a lot of hate from it. So I play JG and my favorite champ is Yi, the downside is he's a very one sided champ that rewards bad habits, I know you told him to play who he wants to play first. Min max then branch out, but should I put my focus in another champ then play YI as a fun champ? This is more or less what I've been doing, using Vi, WW, Xin, and Kayn as mains but playing Yi in-between, but should I focus on my favorite even though he's easily countered?

    • @christiantaylor12
      @christiantaylor12 3 года назад +1

      Just a random gold player here so take what I say with a grain of salt. Right now yi seems to be performing well with his only had matchups being vi elise and ivern. From a player psychology standpoint you'll learn faster if you enjoy what you're doing. If you feel like you're hitting a plateau, sure pick up another champ try to unlearn bad habits. Play yi just pay attention to why x was a bad play. Work on macro and objectives. Your mechanics and champ won't be what's holding you back.

    • @zeekieal
      @zeekieal 3 года назад +2

      Just play yi bro. Have fun with it, try to push that champ to its limits.

    • @aleide2980
      @aleide2980 2 года назад

      Short and late answer, yes. At "low" ELO, a bad champ well played is better than a good/meta champ you don't play well.
      You can make everything works, and despite what everyone will tell you, Yi is actually quite a skilled champion, managing your q to doge cc and w to reduce burst/reset AA , etc...
      And ultimately, the goal is to have fun, si play who you want.

  • @jacob127w9
    @jacob127w9 3 года назад +4

    Should skill q,w,q,e so he can e to maintain 4 shot

  • @demetrius3581
    @demetrius3581 3 года назад +1

    Lmaoooo jhin does sound like prince

  • @ljutaglava4382
    @ljutaglava4382 2 года назад

    Can somebody tell this guy how does jhin atcually work?

  • @MobiusX
    @MobiusX Год назад

    My god, why is he setting 2 points on Q instead of getting E? :O

  • @MikeSion
    @MikeSion 3 года назад +1

    Oh yeah Jhin

  • @xenodarsh3475
    @xenodarsh3475 3 года назад +24

    But but but but.... NEACE, he's soooooo ...edgy! He has such a cooooooool KIT!!!! I WANNA PLAY HIM WAAAAAH! Sigh..... Good on your sir for putting up with it.

    • @diogenesfromsinope6212
      @diogenesfromsinope6212 3 года назад +3

      Ur acting like u vibe with neace and understand his rationale but i bet u do the same thing aspie

    • @xenodarsh3475
      @xenodarsh3475 3 года назад

      @@diogenesfromsinope6212 No i do understand, little kids are just dumb asses that dont want to listen to reason and advice even when your paying for it. Thats what im making fun of but i understand you DIDNT understand what i was getting at. Theres obviously some life experience difference between you and i. Good luck kiddo, the worlds going to get alot worse.

    • @diogenesfromsinope6212
      @diogenesfromsinope6212 3 года назад

      @@xenodarsh3475 stop talking to me insect, ur a weirdo

    • @kleverklogs
      @kleverklogs 3 года назад

      @@xenodarsh3475 you’re so incredibly cringe.

  • @hamitaydin8465
    @hamitaydin8465 2 года назад

    He didn't skill his e till lvl 12 thats a huge mistake cause u aren't playing a full champ if u don't use his/her full kit and even after lvl 12 he almost never used the e which could help him at so many different points and at min 18:44 the enemies put a pink ward in bots tribush he and his team attacked the pink ward but didnt destroy it (just 1 more hit) thus akshan had easily vision over the backdoor at him and xerath (almost double for the enemy) and also that same ward got destroyed way later in the game (at 25:11) and thats free bot splitpush potential for akshan troughout 6 mins of the Game

  • @elohel3293
    @elohel3293 7 месяцев назад

    Little tip for Jhin players. Announce you are going to play jhin on champ select. Or don’t play jhin at all.

  • @parker4630
    @parker4630 3 года назад

    28:29 I'm new (like 4 months ) is there an occation worth dying as an ADC???

    • @Khen3256
      @Khen3256 3 года назад

      it depends, you should try to stay alive and help your team as much as possible. think about how the situation would be if you were dead and not there.

    • @ThatGBAGamer
      @ThatGBAGamer 3 года назад

      Shutdowns and good wave states and objectives that can make or break games

  • @entendu_620
    @entendu_620 3 года назад +4

    hey I was just wondering if anyone knows, Ive noticed that when I play I either do really well or really really bad. I notice that after a win streak I think the game thinks im doing well and puts me against better players and then I get stomped and my win streaks come from facing noticeably less skilled players. I have been perma bronze and climb to silver 2 every season since season 9. At this point I feel like im just not good at the game after playing almost 3 years and cant hit gold. I play morde top, ahri, xerath mid, and MF, cait adc.

    • @Kilgore10
      @Kilgore10 3 года назад

      Watch Mid Beast.

    • @Kilgore10
      @Kilgore10 3 года назад +3

      No cap I’ve improved from bronze to high gold from watching him and actually doing the things he says. I get 9 CS a min. Never coin flip shitty team fights, and only fight on my terms.

    • @Kilgore10
      @Kilgore10 3 года назад +2

      So I guess what I’m saying is you’re probably just playing inconsistent. The improvement of the people your playing against after a few wins wouldn’t be big enough for you to just shit the bed. Probably making bad choices.

    • @dovahsenbrom836
      @dovahsenbrom836 3 года назад +3

      learn how to play from behind. its easy when you're feeling confident and snowball early. what'll make you climb is the comebacks. it's always the comebacks. otherwise its 50/50 and you'll stay stuck. silver2->gold4 is pretty annoying. half the guys are tryharding without knowing how to try hard and the other half doesn't give a damn. you get a lot of people hard tilting 5 minutes in and 90% of players haven't learned how to come back yet. IMO the macro challenge of silver is the comeback. even if you're losing by 10 k's at 15 you can salvage it most of the time - as long as you find a way to get your mates to stop playing COD while turning that 10 kill diff into 25+

    • @Autumn_Leaf8
      @Autumn_Leaf8 3 года назад +3

      @@dovahsenbrom836 Also, being able to recognize when you start falling behind early on and adapting your playstyle is something very useful to know. If you recognize your behind a bit early and play safer, it'll turn an 0/10 to a 0/2, which is much easier to recover from.
      I had a big problem with playing safe/ respecting good opponents, so I took a while in norms playing less aggressive champs to get into the mindset of how to play safe (a.k.a. if I didn't play safe I 100% die hahaha) and tried to learn how to manipulate the wave, tether and play around my jungler to get ahead. Then I switched back to my main champ pool and used the things I learned with them and it really helped.
      A good tip is also to have a really small champ pool (1-3 champs) that you can play in both your main and sub-role. Macro is one thing, but if you don't get a good understanding of your champs, it'll be like cycling in a marathon without knowing how to ride a bike. If the right play is to sidelane and duel the opponent, if you can't hit your abilities or use your champion the way it's meant to be, you'll throw plays that could cost you the game. I know it's fun playing several champs and in pro-play they are very flexible with there champ pools, but in solo-que sharpening your skills on 1 or 2 champs and being able to take advantage of any advantage your champ gives is far more efficient.

  • @lukasnilsson3015
    @lukasnilsson3015 Год назад

    He might not like Jhin but maybe Tonic

  • @georgedrrxryikdoy2628
    @georgedrrxryikdoy2628 3 года назад +1

    hey neace ive been wonder how did u come up with the name neace like i dont think thats ur actual name is it??

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      its neacey (pronounced Neee-Seee) and it used to be n3ac3y but thats NOT easy to type or brand so he changed it to simply Neace, neacey is an actual name i had an uncle w the name before they got divorced (probably over his name lmaoo)

  • @g33kaholic24
    @g33kaholic24 3 года назад

    Did you straight rip a NEACE video????

  • @robertbritton2279
    @robertbritton2279 3 года назад +1

    beautiful ult hits brother.

  • @TheSomething78
    @TheSomething78 3 года назад +5

    The fact he could've saved his team mates a couple of times by pressing heal and didn't is infuriating >(

  • @OldKingMaple
    @OldKingMaple 3 года назад

    What elo was this?

  • @yGKeKe
    @yGKeKe 3 года назад +3

    So...You hate this ADC because this guy is bad at the champion? Logic.

    • @jupiterrising887
      @jupiterrising887 2 года назад +2

      Jhin sucks. He's a janky do-nothing ADC with a terrible ult that's just a series of weak skill shots. Play a proper auto-based ADC like Tristana.

  • @Rations282
    @Rations282 3 года назад +1

    This guy doesn't use his biscuits. why get that useless rune

  • @grimmmed9394
    @grimmmed9394 3 года назад +1

    26:42 go home. Was the worst advice I’ve seen from you in previous coachings

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      ok ironchud

  • @moelester7408
    @moelester7408 2 года назад

    0:50 ayo neace you kinky

  • @dashanebrown9564
    @dashanebrown9564 3 года назад +3

    If this guy would put a point in e, the fight at 18:45 would’ve been different, man it’s cringe seeing this 💀

  • @dovahsenbrom836
    @dovahsenbrom836 3 года назад +2

    11/18 cs at 3... oh boy

  • @DobeCa1
    @DobeCa1 3 года назад

    I also like to lean of feet 🤣

  • @steeezy9585
    @steeezy9585 3 года назад +1

    tell him to use his heal more than 4 times a game

  • @tonyx696
    @tonyx696 2 года назад

    0:49

  • @tonyx696
    @tonyx696 2 года назад

    12:48

  • @jacob127w9
    @jacob127w9 3 года назад

    Jhin is Raiden from metal gear

    • @salmaanzhang3001
      @salmaanzhang3001 3 года назад

      Isnt that more like fiora

    • @jacob127w9
      @jacob127w9 3 года назад

      @@salmaanzhang3001 no like the voice actor who plays jhin IRL is the same guy who played Raiden in metal gear.

    • @salmaanzhang3001
      @salmaanzhang3001 3 года назад

      @@jacob127w9 ohhh I didnt know

    • @jacob127w9
      @jacob127w9 3 года назад

      @@salmaanzhang3001 like Ivern is also Pervy Sage.

  • @TobbeDraws
    @TobbeDraws 3 года назад +1

    Why does the thumbnail look like ryze?

  • @iAmEpicLily
    @iAmEpicLily 3 года назад +2

    The overwhelming majority of Jhin players take fleet now. The safety it provides is much better than the slight damage you get from DH.

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      safety?????? those tiny fuckin piddly heals that you only get SLOWLY because jhin doesn't attack fast OR move fast or have any dashes? yeah sounds prettty shit slight damage? its a FULL fucking execute from 50% if you have even a few items WTF are you talking about?

    • @iAmEpicLily
      @iAmEpicLily 3 года назад +1

      @@zeening fleet gives you a fuck ton of move speed, as well as lets you survive lane. Dh does not add much damage if you cant stack it high enough early. Look at statistics, 29k games with fleet and only 5k with dh

    • @Arejen03
      @Arejen03 3 года назад +1

      You can dance around with fleet

  • @TYFLOL
    @TYFLOL 3 года назад

    Where did the rank in the top right go? Made it easier to see ur not watching some bronze kiddo and wasting your time on someone getting taught how to do basic stuff.

    • @zeening
      @zeening 3 года назад

      if you can't tell something is low elo from watching it maybe you aren't as advanced as you think and need to study the basic stuff

  • @Buddahmonk
    @Buddahmonk 3 года назад +5

    Neace has a “humble” opinion… don’t believe it

  • @abcdefghilihgfedcba
    @abcdefghilihgfedcba 3 года назад +1

    This is the first client who’s actually good at the game.

  • @AaryanRKO
    @AaryanRKO 3 года назад +3

    this adc was shit he never warded and got Perma ganked
    even when he was fighting in the bush he had 2 wards and the enemy had a vision in there but my friend never wanted to ward
    edit he is way more shit than I thought , this guy never healed his teammates no matter how many times he could save them ,like for more than 15 minutes
    he never use heal

  • @zeening
    @zeening 3 года назад +1

    how the hell do you figure fleet is for more macro stuff? is a piddly little heal it always blows my mind when people pick that, like a weak crappy version of a DMP that heals for a similarly small amount to taste of blood, WHY does everyone pick that crap? dark harvest is a LITERAL execute from 50% hp with a few items.... how the fuck is that EVER not useful? ANY of your "gimmicky" plays involve fighting at some point or trying to go take a tower... which you can get stopped and 1 v 1d on... where a 50% hp execute would be SIGNIFICANTLY MORE HELPFUL THAN A TINY HEAL EVERYTIME YOU MOVE 400 FEET

  • @thunders2020
    @thunders2020 3 года назад

    forget lane macro, get kills!!! do gimickey shit!!!!

  • @russianroyal1861
    @russianroyal1861 3 года назад +1

    Teemo is a great support to pair with Jhin…

    • @yungwrld9923
      @yungwrld9923 3 года назад

      no

    • @tylerlindsey4772
      @tylerlindsey4772 3 года назад

      win early to lose in every other portion of the game. Good idea.

    • @russianroyal1861
      @russianroyal1861 3 года назад +1

      @@tylerlindsey4772 You are new. It’s ok. If you can’t see the value in late game shrooms for zoning objectives. Eeeek

    • @fedepalma1981
      @fedepalma1981 3 года назад

      @@russianroyal1861 hashdashdhas,

    • @Cshepard
      @Cshepard 3 года назад +1

      maybe in your cancerous elo yeah. Eveyrone red trinkets everywere before moving against a teemo when they got a brain

  • @jupiterrising887
    @jupiterrising887 2 года назад +1

    Local expert provides even more evidence Jhin sucks; angry mob of crying kids continue to play Jhin.

  • @KevsShwaShwa
    @KevsShwaShwa 3 года назад +2

    I really don't get the "only play one champ", well I get it but I don't see it being fun. I love playing and getting new heroes, I like playing fiora, kassadin, akshan, sejuani, trundle, warwick, wukong, mundo, cho'gath and more. Just play what you want, play what you're feeling and what is fun. Wish Neace would say, "just play what you want to play, who cares if you know it or not". Really annoys me.

    • @codydonovan4853
      @codydonovan4853 3 года назад +6

      He's talking to somebody who bought a coaching from him in these games. From his perspective, if his student isn't sticking to 1 or 2 champs, they're not getting their money out of the coaching.

    • @AustenPalmer
      @AustenPalmer 3 года назад +9

      Well if you're just playing for fun, sure. But Neace is being paid good money to give tips on increasing MMR. Playing the same champ over and over is 100% the best way to do that

    • @AustenPalmer
      @AustenPalmer 3 года назад +2

      This isn't one of those channels my guy

    • @KevsShwaShwa
      @KevsShwaShwa 3 года назад +1

      @@codydonovan4853 that’s fair, but I genuinely believe that if you have fun with a video game you’ll spend the time required to get better. I think of OG’s ti9 win and they just had fun and meme’d the whole time. Everyone else was trying to win and they were playing a game they love. Just wish there’d be more fun in his videos cause that is the biggest motivation.

    • @EvilShadex101
      @EvilShadex101 3 года назад +3

      @@KevsShwaShwa what you’re not understanding is how important champ mastery is when you’re trying to climb. If you’re just playing normals then sure but, if your goal is to climb to a certain rank, playing a different champ every game is going to drastically hinder you.

  • @joserico8449
    @joserico8449 3 года назад +6

    you hate only what you dont understand thats why the hate on jhin

    • @LKZ405
      @LKZ405 3 года назад +1

      Mmm I did not think that the last time I hooked on Doublelift streams. He was really tilted because the role is in this position.

    • @LKZ405
      @LKZ405 3 года назад

      He basically had no control on the game and he couldn't just carry so to speak.

    • @g00zik97
      @g00zik97 3 года назад +1

      wow deep have you just finished primary school

    • @joserico8449
      @joserico8449 3 года назад

      @@LKZ405 yeh thats true, the higher you go in solo q the harder It is to control the game as adc.

    • @jupiterrising887
      @jupiterrising887 2 года назад +1

      Neace understands Jhin. This guy forgot more about this game than you ever knew.

  • @gameguru42392
    @gameguru42392 3 года назад +1

    Jhin is braindead af

    • @adcavenger1980
      @adcavenger1980 3 года назад +8

      No lol

    • @crazysnill
      @crazysnill 3 года назад

      @@adcavenger1980 yes lol

    • @NeoMaddy
      @NeoMaddy 3 года назад +3

      Compared to an adc like Tristana?

    • @crazysnill
      @crazysnill 3 года назад

      @@NeoMaddy Trist is way more difficult than Jhin

    • @sidways47
      @sidways47 3 года назад +3

      @@crazysnill for silvers ig

  • @ishizukahikaru643
    @ishizukahikaru643 2 года назад

    If u only play Jhin and never climb, you deserve it!