Honestly, I’m happy she was able to realize that this was an accident. The amount of people who thought that a 12 year old purposefully killed his older sister and yet clearly feels awful about it and has been wildly traumatized to the point of becoming a hikikomori and hiding the truth in basically happy crayon drawings for 4 years, is exhausting.
And he obviously loves her a lot. You wouldn't do that on purpose to someone you love so much, especially as a kid. There were times when I hurt my siblings when we were younger out of anger but I didn't mean to do it. I was just so angry at them. I quickly feel guilty about it afterwards. I was just a kid.
If I had been in Sunny’s place, I probably would’ve done a similar thing. In an argument I would be afraid of the older, bigger, and probably louder person yelling at me. If someone tries to grab me, I push them. Simple. I would’ve done the same thing Basically, he was acting out of fear, not hatred. It’s sad to see people think he killed her on purpose.
I like how the game lets us collect each photos separately and out of order and we put them in order, seeing the sequence in multiple small pictures until in the end the game makes us flip through them one picture at a time until the last one. it's like Sunny is remembering bits and pieces of it, only for him to remember it clearly in order at the end.
The suspense is really good it kept me thinking what happened each time a photo was revealed I got chills. The way how their faces are hidden in the photos and stuff, the story is really well revealed
I remember recording a clip of Jaiden’s play through at the beginning of Sweehearts battle…never in my life have I seen a more perfect description of Omori “Aw, it’s like Disney channel.” *seconds later* “Oh god it’s not like Disney channel.”
Last time a fandom ran out of content it went downhill very very fast and became known as one of the most toxic fandoms (I think u all know what I'm talking about) Let's hope it doesn't happen this time
9:49 something about this that I want to add. We normally want to relate to the person we were playing as. So that’s why we use the first person a lot. But when they do something bad, or we learn about something bad. A lot of times will switch the 3rd person because we no longer want to relate to them. I think that clarifies it more than what i originally said edit: also it scares me that this is now at 48k views 😭 thank you sm tho
I think it's a mix of that and the fact it was outside of your control. The character did that on their own outside of you and your input, forcing them to acknowledge them as their own character.
This is interesting to note. I just rewatched when I played it on Twitch, and the whole time, I was using we/us pronouns. I think because personally, I relate the player character to the whole audience? Or possibly I relate to the player character and me together as one being essentially in a way? I know I do this with other games where the MC is not mute or anything. Saying We instead of I, or referring to the character as Us instead of their namesake (though I do, of course, use their names sometimes. I did notice me referring to Sunny himself, without it being because of a dialogue box.
watching people reacting to "The Truth" is always fascinating. some would immediately blame Omori for planned murder. some would immediately blame Bazil for planned murder. others would be confused and slowly piece it together. some just stayed silent for most of the section and piece it out at the end. and some cried for most of the section.
I finished the game last night and all I can say is that- let's just say I just started theorizing and ended up bawling my eyes out instead out of concern for everyone's mental health.
I find it odd some believe Sunny "murdered" Mari, when it'd be manslaughter: an attack _unintentionally_ resulting in someone being killed. Murder would be Sunny pushing her with lethal intention. He just wanted to leave, she wouldn't move, so he forced her to. And she _did_ ... ...Just not in the way he expected her to.
i actually did :) i’ll get the link to it hold up- edit: ruclips.net/video/I7CBo_LJwNY/видео.html you also could just go in my videos because i don’t have that much but idk make it a little easier?? lol
fully expected this to just be a random clip channel, but no you edited the hell out of this! Extremely good job! Also that is some extremely cool insight at 5:00 that I hadn't even thought about before
9:49 Honestly, I did the ending a few hours ago when I was writing this, and I did the same thing as Jaiden for the most part. I mostly used 1st person pronouns, but unlike Jaiden, I every now and then did 3rd person. Despite me not being Sunny, I still mostly said stuff like “I killed her,” and “It was my fault,” and as I went further on, I basically only used 1st person.
I've been seeing many people saying they did this and honestly yeah same, but i have little to no idea why. i guess we can chalk it up to the game's genuis immersion.
@@novathesnowcone It was the photo dream Basil drops at the very end of the prologue, the one right before the cut back to White Space. The photo only flashes on screen for a split second, but I glimpsed the bottom of a staircase and something in a heap on the floor. Basil says "Mari is....!" right before the cut, so I was like, "oh, it must have been Mari at the bottom of the stairs, we probably pushed or tripped her and she died"..... just given the kind of game this was, it made sense. Though I WAS wrong about the heap being Mari, the thing in the photo was actually Sunny's violin I think.
I knew this would be uploaded soon lol. I never played omori, people always said "oh it emotionally wrecked me" or "its horrifying" and i thought they were all being babies since the game isnt that bad up until you learn the truth. I was up at night thinking about it lmao
Having only ever seen her animated version of herself seeing her irl is very strange She Looks like a real adult lady and not a smooth white scribble 😂
jaiden: pieces everything together and understands the accident and they are not actual photos bo en: "omg, Sunny and Basil planned to murder Mari on purpose and Basil took photos of the whole thing!" btw i love bo en no shade to him AND WATCH HIS PLAYTHROUGH ITS SO GOOD (apart from a small misinterpretation)
I already knew the truth before playing but this is still a really impactful twist. However, I do have one problem: how the hell did sunny and basil get her up that tree?? I KNOW neither of them have any upper body strength and Mari aaa older and bigger than them while they were like, 12. Seriously, THAT is the real mystery in omori.
@@atlaskanik Naah we all know Basil's as subtly ripped as possible, but after doing this he couldn't stand to do his incredibly specific training and lost his power. I mean, look at his stats, fr...
First of all, plot guard. Second, it is thought that, under extreme conditions, the human body can acquire a lot of strength, enough to even lift a car (I saw this somewhere on the internet where a mother lifted a car where her child was under bcs of an accident)
Thank you for sharing this clip! I'm super happy to see that Jaiden played through OMORI. I'm sure that this stream will have introduced many people to this amazing game!
i’m pretty sure most of the stream was full of people who already played, unfortunately, since someone just watched the story, they probably won’t actually buy the game, which is sad
@@jellybiscuitbag I was introduced to this game by jaiden, I just watched the beginning, played the game myself til the end, then came back when she was playing something else.
oh god i remember being here for this, i knew the truth but didn't know what finding it out looked like. actually, you might see me in the chat freaking out lmao
Seeing her reaction was a bit different from mine. I think as I was figuring it out I was using "I" instead of "he" or "you" as well. But I don't quite remember. I think I just realized after one of the earlier photos what happened and was delaying and crying. I truly understood Sunny hiding the truth and I was there too not wanting to accept the truth and could feel it crushing me more with each photo.
wait can someone simplify the plot to me , i stop watching the stream when basil had the panic attack in the bathroom and kel was sleeping at sunny house, did we end up finding basil in the other world? what happened
You might wanna find another playthrough of this game because there's a lot that happened. But yes, you do eventually find him in the dream world. Just.. not in a good place. 😬
This part was in Night 3 I think. [Spoilers just in case you still want to watch another playthrough blind.] In Day 3, you, Hero, & Kel went to find Aubrey and started getting along again. They went to Basil's but his caretaker said he was at the hospital because his grandma's about to kick the bucket. So you 4 spent the day hanging out then went to your old treehouse at your backyard. But the tree stump where Mari "died" was there so you 4 reminisce about it for a moment, then went to the treehouse. Then Aubrey ran out to the stump and finally admits why she started acting the way she is. She thought everyone was just forgetting about Mari but she just didn't realize that they were all dealing with their grief differently. She also admitted why she hated Basil. She thought he ruined the photos of Mari. (It was actually Sunny, but no one knew except Basil.) They hugged it out. Afterwards, you 4 went to Basil's but he locked himself in his room so you 4 decided to stay over at his house to be close to him. And then you return to Headspace. I don't remember though how you get to this nightmare part in the dream world. More happened after finding out the truth of Mari's passing but I don't wanna put them all here.
Yeah we find dream Basil. Here's what happened, and why he disappeared (spoilers of course) Basil remembers the truth of Maris death, and Omori will not let him tell Sunny what happened. Omori is like, the personification of Sunnys subconscious, depression, and guilt over Maris death. His purpose is to hide the truth from Sunny. You eventually find Basil in a place called Black Space, which is the representation of Sunnys fears and repressed memories. Then he dies. You find him again, and he dies again. He just dies whenever you find him. Then you leave Black Space. But he comes back again, as you see in this video. And he can FINALLY help Sunny remember.
there is an alternate scrapped version of this photo where the lighting is different and you see Sunny's eyes. He actually wasn't smiling but appears to be dazed or in complete shock
Omori or Sunny? i don't remember Sunny being mad at Basil, and Sunny's memory was repressed by Omori so he doesn't remember the truth. just the feeling of guilt and fear with no context. Omori kept killing dream Basil to keep Sunny from knowing the truth.
@@zetroll0372 it can definitely be interpreted that part of Sunny subconsciously hates what Basil did, which is why the secret ending has them smiling at each other implying sunny has forgiven basil and himself after coming to terms with the truth
but at least with hikikomori route, its extremely long and you have to replay most of the game to get it, which a lot of people just don't have the time for.
@@Wormilu As someone who plays and replays extremely long games to completion on a full schedule in a relatively short amount of time spanning about a week each run, it’s not that hard to do. Same with reading and watching shows.
@@calebgoodman3028 we don't really know jaiden's sched, but she prolly also takes time to setup the stream for the game, also probably working on animations and other work. those can be really draining and tiring motivation wise, i say she should do whatever she wants and plays how she wants honestly. i mean, i could always find another gameplay of another ending if i really wanted to.
it’s possible they play the other routes in their own time. i personally couldn’t imagine doing the hikki route live - i’d want to have time to process everything on my own.
@@ryeyumi I can see that. Still a small video on her thoughts of the other route would be enough. I still stand firm on the belief that people can always make time regardless of schedule which comes from personal experience.
Interesting that you bring up the 1st person perspective. I would have thought that more people would keep the 1st person aspect of it… I know I was sobbing saying “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry” the entire time. I felt responsible
So when jaiden said “why are we called omori?” I went and searched it up on Google translate and means k!ll. I legitimately felt my heart drop for a sec So that’s what it means Now you know
Unused/hidden text for the photos in the code make it very clear what happens. But yeah Sunny threw the violin because he was really frustrated about the upcoming concert.
If this is your first time watching omori gameplay, then it's not a surprise you don't understand the gravity of the twist. You should play the game to understand it.
@@realtbhandrew gravity of the surprise was still not huge, just made a bit more sense. i ended up seeing more gameplay and story. lots of people people aren't just affected to this kinda thing tho. depends sensitivity on the person
when I heard jaiden say "Wait She Was Still alive" I started to have my blood kinda boil, mainly because its a pretty big misconception, because of the fact that she war extremely bloodied, didn't breath for multiple hours, and 2 children had ease with holding her means that she was already dead, about the 2 children thing, I thino Omari and Basil would still have trouble holding her if she was alive, as we basically increase our own wieght when were alive
Is it really weird? Throughout the whole last part of omori i thought just in 1st person. This is probably the only game that got me thinking like that. The guilt was conveyed extremely well. I don't feel it from Jaiden tho, this whole reaction seems pretty off to me, but i think it's the issue of streaming and talking to your viewers. Kinda feel bad for her, cuz that probably made the experience less impactful.
I got spoiled on her stream. I would be mad but he stream was the reason I played the game in the first place. I cried so hard after her stream. I wish I could actually experience this game for the first time. 😭. But it’s okay because I would have never played Omori.
As someone whos a huge fan of omori and its characters, watching this is reminding me that while the execution of this reveal is really effective and gripping, the actual concept behind it suffers so much from a visible hand of the author, and actively dampens the impact of the events of the story, at least in my opinion. Like, in terms of themeing, prior to this reveal omoris themes were incredibly universal and applicable to anyone, specifically in regards to depression and suicide as suicide is obviously a tragedy, but more than that its COMMON. Most people will be affected by suicide or suicidality at some point in their lives, whether it be their own or others and having a place to explore the ways in which people experience the aftermath and how they grieve was incredibly impactful for me and was seriously what made the characters as interesting as they were imo. Hero is one of the characters Im most attached to in the story simply because of the way he dealt with maris death. He never really recovered or got closure, but after what happened with kel at the bottom of his downward spiral, hero recognized that there were other people who needed him and who he had the the capacity to help, that he couldnt halt the flow of time in hopes that it could eventually move backwards. Now, we take that fucking beautiful character development for him, realizing that he has to exist in the present no matter how painful it might be in hopes that the people who are there will make it better, and recontextualize it under the twist of the end. Where does that leave us? Where does that leave the characters? How do they cope with this? Its never explained. We're just led to believe that everythings fine between everyone, but never shown how they reach that point, which is literally so hard to believe for a lot of people that its a fucking joke in the community that after the good end kel hero and aubrey just beat the shit out of sunny and basil BECAUSE LIKE. YEAH. THATS KIND OF A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. You think it was hard for you, the player, who had to go through like 30 plus hours of this game under the belief that mari had killed herself only to find out the truth? Imagine being one the main party members, having known mari for most of your conscious life, having her be such an important part of your community, HELL HAVING HER BE YOUR PICTURE PERFECT PARTNER, believing that she had killed herself for 2 years without any indication as to why, all while being seperated from your entire central community during the emotional aftermath only to find out the truth from two kids who had purposefully avoided you during that entire time. Taking all this into consideration, I find it REALLY hard to believe that you would be so rational as to see these events from their perspective, and like, I dont even think thats unjustified frankly. You were traumatized by these people, in ways that so easily could have been avoided or at least could have been mitigated. Its really hard to realize that when people are that young that they cant really be held accountable for their actions when they hurt you so fucking much. So yeah, ultimately the reveal sequence left me literally saying out loud "are you fucking kidding me?" because it really felt like omocat was just using the emotional exploration as a front to get some cheap shock out of the player which is so disappointing. After looking forward to seeing how everyones relationship would be resolved and feeling like that was what the story was leading to, the reveal felt so cheap, like it was simply there because there had to be some kind of spoiler content or whatever. Idk I just spent the last like half an hour writing this and now Im burnt out I hope that makes sense, I dont want to tell anyone they shouldnt appreciate this sequence, I just felt like theres so many people who just kind of take these story beats very uncritically and thats sort of frustrating to me
3 weeks late and its new years but just wanna say, as much as i disagree, i understand completely how you feel. At first this game felt like a pretty great exploration of mental health, alongside the beautiful tale of people living with grief. The twist at the end was so shocking and changed the core of the story so much that i quarelled on how i feel about the game overall. However, at the end i realize that it rlly doesn't throw the many hours of the game under the bus. So i will say that this game DID NOT forsake them for shock value. Before i give my 2 cents, but first i'll say that i agree that i wish they gave a resolution or more character moments that truly tells us what these characters will do when the truth hit them.. altho it could very much be there and i missed it. The tale of grief was not thrown under the bus. Overshadowed, maybe, but the story remains there and untainted. Hero and Aubrey's story remains a beautiful tale of how grief can wreck someone that isn't prepared, especially when that grief came from a person's suicide. As we know, Mari didn't actually die from suicide, so that shifts the main theme of the story of Sunny and Basil into living with guilt more than it is about grief. The tale of grief remains, and it does add to the tale of guilt. They didn't write the tale of grief just to give the truth more shock, they write it to give Sunny a reason to feel so GUILTY, to let the players understand just how much pain he and basil had caused to their friends, and as such helps make you feel more for the pain that they too is feeling. So then lets go to the bad endings : Either Basil or Sunny or worse, BOTH die by their own hands and none of their friend knew Mari's true death. We saw how it affected them when Mari died. Maybe they can move on, but we know they don't deserve this pain. Their character moments not only give context into the truth and thematic meaning of sunny's story, it also add gravity to them. It makes Sunny's hatred of himself that leaked during Omori's battle hit harder, because we see these character's pain in real time. And we also feel worse for the bad endings, because sunny didnt need to die- because maybe their friends can forgive him- and because we see the hope these characters regained, and to take it away from all these poor kids is too cruel.
I know that it can feel like the emotional exploration was just to add weight for "shock value" (which i disagree with). And i know it can also feel like they ruined the story of grief with the truth. But as someone whose mental health fell into such a slippery slope because of feeling guilty, i cannot look at the truth sequence as anything remotely close to a shock bait. When i realize why sunny has been repressing the memories of his sister so much, why he felt so much like shit, why he had to escape to his dream, it helps me feel so much for him. The story was already rlly good with the mental health and grief exploration, but the truth elevates it for me because that level of fucked upness HELPS in communicating to me : if I was in this position, how can i keep on living? That truth sequence alone made me look at the whole headspace and black space differently. To me who favored the real world the whole game, headspace and black space meant a lot more when i understand what he went through. Feeling like we were stolen a resolve of these kids overcoming the grief is annoying, but i can get over it because how could we feel like we deserve closure when we were part of the reason this even happened? Exactly. That's what the entire endgame was about. Sunny letting himself believe that he deserves to go on, to get closure. Starts by wanting to save Basil, and eventually remembering his friends' love for him as the wordss of his head struck him down, it all leads to him finally waking up and telling the truth. None of that would rlly work if we don't feel for these characters, see their growth. See how they reunite. I wouldn't feel Sunny's self loathing if i didn't know how much Aubrey and Hero loved her. I wouldn't feel like there is a point of going on if not for his friends' loving support we see throughout 3 days. Yes, we don't rlly know if they will forgive him. Not enough character moments to give us closure on wether or not they will forgive us(and heck, that alone made it feel like the ending is unsatisfying because it felt like no buildup was there at all!) But i think it's a massive disservice to the game to think that this was just here for shock value. I don't blame you tho, but i'm sharing to you why this sequence and the truth elevates the game for me. I don't think it's uncritical at all, only that the tale of forgiveness is strong enough for people to overlook it
Jaiden Animation. it was during the subathon that's still on going right now. i think she still got 79h left. and it's been 22-23 days. no VODs (yet?) tho.
the vods aren't available at the moment. proably will have the pieces of the stream by topics. (like Omori segments will have their own segment.) That's my guess so I can't say for sure though.
Dude the amount of writing about obvious things are annoying. I don't think we came to primarily hear out your take on Omori, I think we came for the clip and to see the screen.
9:49 oh I think about this a lot. I haven't seen the video you linked but it's like. This scene completely rips the player out of any attachment they may have to Sunny. Idk I can't explain it
I like that you pointed out Jaiden used “I” terms rather than “You” terms. In my run I actually found myself to say that too. During the final battle when Omori says, “YOU killed her.” It’s almost as if you are Sunny, the game tries to get you to feel like you’re Sunny. In return you’ll find yourself to say I more than YOU when describing the player character.
this part of the game makes me cry, the way jaiden described it was funny so i went from crying to laughing to crying to laughing to crying and laughing
"they make us want to stall to know the truth" I ran through this whole thing knowing exactly what was about to happen, right from the start I KNEW Mari was dead (when she knocks on the door and it showed the Dreamworld version I was like "that's not Mari" and didn't open it)
I’d say that when he reaches the stairs at around 5:15, the music sounds like it’s this very abstract rendition of the white space theme, with many notes surrounding it. It’s this mix of like, familiarity, with a small bit of relief and yet unfamiliar. It’s also interesting that the familiarity brings relief, since the theme is associated with both white space and Mari, the truth and its repression. It’s this comfort that in the moment is way better than trying to figure out the truth.
I always interpreted it as the truth haunts you even in the safest place - like repression just makes it worse! After all, Mari's memorial photo is in Neighbor's Room itself, Mari's hair hangs down from Red Space whose function is to repress the truth, and the duet plays in the Neighbor's Bedroom BGM!
At 9:50, the reason she probably sticks to first person is because she named Sunny after herself. I did the same when I played, and it hit different than it would have if I disassociated myself with keeping it as Sunny (omori moment)
Idk why people think it was a murder, glad she didn't, the pic of him smiling might give hints of murder but it's just because he's in shock and doesn't know what to do, why would he do it on purple if he's feeling terrible about it and stressing in some pictures
![Lets redesign Marinette!! [this took 3 years to make]](/img/1.gif)
Honestly, I’m happy she was able to realize that this was an accident. The amount of people who thought that a 12 year old purposefully killed his older sister and yet clearly feels awful about it and has been wildly traumatized to the point of becoming a hikikomori and hiding the truth in basically happy crayon drawings for 4 years, is exhausting.
And he obviously loves her a lot. You wouldn't do that on purpose to someone you love so much, especially as a kid.
There were times when I hurt my siblings when we were younger out of anger but I didn't mean to do it. I was just so angry at them. I quickly feel guilty about it afterwards. I was just a kid.
Yeah, honestly if I was stressed out as he was and Mari tried to grab me… I shove her too. (When someone starts to walk away, just let them.)
yep although the hikikomori thing is only one of the endings/routes
@@standingbylife and never get into arguments/fights above stairs
If I had been in Sunny’s place, I probably would’ve done a similar thing. In an argument I would be afraid of the older, bigger, and probably louder person yelling at me. If someone tries to grab me, I push them. Simple. I would’ve done the same thing
Basically, he was acting out of fear, not hatred. It’s sad to see people think he killed her on purpose.
I like how the game lets us collect each photos separately and out of order and we put them in order, seeing the sequence in multiple small pictures until in the end the game makes us flip through them one picture at a time until the last one.
it's like Sunny is remembering bits and pieces of it, only for him to remember it clearly in order at the end.
Sunny*
@@liviupetre9561 oops- right edited
The suspense is really good it kept me thinking what happened each time a photo was revealed I got chills. The way how their faces are hidden in the photos and stuff, the story is really well revealed
I remember recording a clip of Jaiden’s play through at the beginning of Sweehearts battle…never in my life have I seen a more perfect description of Omori
“Aw, it’s like Disney channel.”
*seconds later*
“Oh god it’s not like Disney channel.”
It’s our duty as Omori fans to eat up all content related to the game, and watch as other people feel our pain
so true !!! ☝️☝️
this
Sir yes Sir
Omori fans
🤝 Eating up all content available, especially other people playing
Outer wilds fans
Last time a fandom ran out of content it went downhill very very fast and became known as one of the most toxic fandoms (I think u all know what I'm talking about)
Let's hope it doesn't happen this time
9:49 something about this that I want to add. We normally want to relate to the person we were playing as. So that’s why we use the first person a lot. But when they do something bad, or we learn about something bad. A lot of times will switch the 3rd person because we no longer want to relate to them. I think that clarifies it more than what i originally said
edit: also it scares me that this is now at 48k views 😭 thank you sm tho
I might be helped that here Jaiden called « Sunny » as « Jaiden » therefore she was more related in some way ... maybe?
that happened to me when kris from delatrune slashed toriel's tires. they're not really the same thing in any way but its interesting.
I think it's a mix of that and the fact it was outside of your control. The character did that on their own outside of you and your input, forcing them to acknowledge them as their own character.
I sorta did the same thing when I played this section and streamed it for my friend. I said "my bad Mari" when i realized what happened lmao
This is interesting to note. I just rewatched when I played it on Twitch, and the whole time, I was using we/us pronouns. I think because personally, I relate the player character to the whole audience? Or possibly I relate to the player character and me together as one being essentially in a way? I know I do this with other games where the MC is not mute or anything. Saying We instead of I, or referring to the character as Us instead of their namesake (though I do, of course, use their names sometimes. I did notice me referring to Sunny himself, without it being because of a dialogue box.
watching people reacting to "The Truth" is always fascinating.
some would immediately blame Omori for planned murder.
some would immediately blame Bazil for planned murder.
others would be confused and slowly piece it together.
some just stayed silent for most of the section and piece it out at the end.
and some cried for most of the section.
I finished the game last night and all I can say is that- let's just say I just started theorizing and ended up bawling my eyes out instead out of concern for everyone's mental health.
I honestly was too shocked to react at first, but I ended up crying a lot later. These poor fucking kids deserve the world.
Sunny, not Omori.
i just sat in silence piecing everything together sobbing, these poor kids especially basil considering he was willing to cover it up
I find it odd some believe Sunny "murdered" Mari, when it'd be manslaughter: an attack _unintentionally_ resulting in someone being killed. Murder would be Sunny pushing her with lethal intention. He just wanted to leave, she wouldn't move, so he forced her to. And she _did_ ...
...Just not in the way he expected her to.
should have recorded her getting the neutral ending first by mistake and chat literally having a heart attack
i actually did :) i’ll get the link to it hold up-
edit: ruclips.net/video/I7CBo_LJwNY/видео.html
you also could just go in my videos because i don’t have that much but idk make it a little easier?? lol
I'm so glad she realized that it was a accident since there are so many people who say he did it on purpose without context clues
Holy shit, the chat just casually spoiling EVERYTHING. Thankfully she did not look in the chat.
If only Mari didn't injure her leg, she wouldn't have stumbled so much when Sunny pushed her...
fully expected this to just be a random clip channel, but no you edited the hell out of this! Extremely good job! Also that is some extremely cool insight at 5:00 that I hadn't even thought about before
oh no
_o h n o_
another youtuber bites the omori truth dust
It is like redbull.. you just slowly realize the ingredients
9:49 Honestly, I did the ending a few hours ago when I was writing this, and I did the same thing as Jaiden for the most part. I mostly used 1st person pronouns, but unlike Jaiden, I every now and then did 3rd person. Despite me not being Sunny, I still mostly said stuff like “I killed her,” and “It was my fault,” and as I went further on, I basically only used 1st person.
I've been seeing many people saying they did this and honestly yeah same, but i have little to no idea why.
i guess we can chalk it up to the game's genuis immersion.
Will never stop being proud that I called this twist in the prologue lmao.
"Holy shit I was right!😃"
"Oh shit I was right…😰"
@@malva7374 EXACTLY
@@malva7374 😢
what made you find out? i am genuinely curious
@@novathesnowcone It was the photo dream Basil drops at the very end of the prologue, the one right before the cut back to White Space.
The photo only flashes on screen for a split second, but I glimpsed the bottom of a staircase and something in a heap on the floor. Basil says "Mari is....!" right before the cut, so I was like, "oh, it must have been Mari at the bottom of the stairs, we probably pushed or tripped her and she died"..... just given the kind of game this was, it made sense.
Though I WAS wrong about the heap being Mari, the thing in the photo was actually Sunny's violin I think.
I knew this would be uploaded soon lol. I never played omori, people always said "oh it emotionally wrecked me" or "its horrifying" and i thought they were all being babies since the game isnt that bad up until you learn the truth. I was up at night thinking about it lmao
you never know until you know
When I played, I never went "he" did this or "I" did this. I always said "we," and I'm not sure why
Having only ever seen her animated version of herself seeing her irl is very strange
She Looks like a real adult lady and not a smooth white scribble 😂
Thanks for uploading the video! And adding your own comments to it too
np!! :))
@@adzdrawssI love it when people add their opinions and comments, adds much more flavor to the content
Honestly I love the fact that it’s actually from basils perspective
Sunny: Wants to kill himself for what he did
Chat:”Average brother in Ohio💀💀”
jaiden: pieces everything together and understands the accident and they are not actual photos
bo en: "omg, Sunny and Basil planned to murder Mari on purpose and Basil took photos of the whole thing!"
btw i love bo en no shade to him AND WATCH HIS PLAYTHROUGH ITS SO GOOD (apart from a small misinterpretation)
I already knew the truth before playing but this is still a really impactful twist. However, I do have one problem: how the hell did sunny and basil get her up that tree?? I KNOW neither of them have any upper body strength and Mari aaa older and bigger than them while they were like, 12. Seriously, THAT is the real mystery in omori.
Basil likely stood on the toybox and used the branch as leverage. He probably threw the rope over the branch and lifted her that way.
@@atlaskanik yeah that's the theory I had. Still got that respect for basil's muscles tho lmao
Basil is a gardener to be fair, and gardening takes alot of strength especally when carrying heavy bags and such,
@@atlaskanik Naah we all know Basil's as subtly ripped as possible, but after doing this he couldn't stand to do his incredibly specific training and lost his power. I mean, look at his stats, fr...
First of all, plot guard. Second, it is thought that, under extreme conditions, the human body can acquire a lot of strength, enough to even lift a car (I saw this somewhere on the internet where a mother lifted a car where her child was under bcs of an accident)
Im mad that I was sleeping when Jaiden played this, but im glad there are recordings of it so I can see her reaction
Thank you for sharing this clip! I'm super happy to see that Jaiden played through OMORI. I'm sure that this stream will have introduced many people to this amazing game!
And thank you for adding your insights as well!
i’m pretty sure most of the stream was full of people who already played, unfortunately, since someone just watched the story, they probably won’t actually buy the game, which is sad
@@fr1wn642 Ah, shoot. I didn’t think about that. I hope that’s not the case!
@@jellybiscuitbag I was introduced to this game by jaiden, I just watched the beginning, played the game myself til the end, then came back when she was playing something else.
@@user-th1pv6ks5o YEAH BABY, THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!
oh god i remember being here for this, i knew the truth but didn't know what finding it out looked like. actually, you might see me in the chat freaking out lmao
Yes!!! I was there talking in chat while this was happening i really liked her play through at this part :)
She probably uses 1st person while talking because she changed sunny's name to hers
jaiden is the fastest ive seen piece it together.
I lowkey wanna cry again after seeing those photos once more..
Seeing her reaction was a bit different from mine. I think as I was figuring it out I was using "I" instead of "he" or "you" as well. But I don't quite remember. I think I just realized after one of the earlier photos what happened and was delaying and crying. I truly understood Sunny hiding the truth and I was there too not wanting to accept the truth and could feel it crushing me more with each photo.
i hate i caught on to sunny and basil staging the accidental murder so early because it didnt impact me as hard as i feel it shouldve :/
Same, I forgot but I think I saw hints online about it and was so annoyed, thankfully it didn't all get spoiled tho
bruh for me i looked straight at the fandom, ignored the spoiler watning and went straight to photo album. god damn.
Thank you for posting these, i was not able to watch these so thank you
wait can someone simplify the plot to me , i stop watching the stream when basil had the panic attack in the bathroom and kel was sleeping at sunny house, did we end up finding basil in the other world? what happened
You might wanna find another playthrough of this game because there's a lot that happened.
But yes, you do eventually find him in the dream world. Just.. not in a good place. 😬
This part was in Night 3 I think. [Spoilers just in case you still want to watch another playthrough blind.]
In Day 3, you, Hero, & Kel went to find Aubrey and started getting along again. They went to Basil's but his caretaker said he was at the hospital because his grandma's about to kick the bucket.
So you 4 spent the day hanging out then went to your old treehouse at your backyard. But the tree stump where Mari "died" was there so you 4 reminisce about it for a moment, then went to the treehouse.
Then Aubrey ran out to the stump and finally admits why she started acting the way she is. She thought everyone was just forgetting about Mari but she just didn't realize that they were all dealing with their grief differently. She also admitted why she hated Basil. She thought he ruined the photos of Mari. (It was actually Sunny, but no one knew except Basil.) They hugged it out.
Afterwards, you 4 went to Basil's but he locked himself in his room so you 4 decided to stay over at his house to be close to him. And then you return to Headspace.
I don't remember though how you get to this nightmare part in the dream world. More happened after finding out the truth of Mari's passing but I don't wanna put them all here.
Yeah we find dream Basil. Here's what happened, and why he disappeared (spoilers of course)
Basil remembers the truth of Maris death, and Omori will not let him tell Sunny what happened. Omori is like, the personification of Sunnys subconscious, depression, and guilt over Maris death. His purpose is to hide the truth from Sunny.
You eventually find Basil in a place called Black Space, which is the representation of Sunnys fears and repressed memories. Then he dies. You find him again, and he dies again. He just dies whenever you find him. Then you leave Black Space.
But he comes back again, as you see in this video. And he can FINALLY help Sunny remember.
I remember watching Jaiden play Omori, I never felt so scared by a video game since Undertale
I was so sad that I missed this part of the stream
i was watching all of this at like 3am it hit me so hard
What really got me on edge was that the picture at 7:49 it looked like he was smiling.
there is an alternate scrapped version of this photo where the lighting is different and you see Sunny's eyes. He actually wasn't smiling but appears to be dazed or in complete shock
Real talk how did jaiden not figure out that Mari was dead as a rock. Like literally every character reference that she’s dead in some way
do you have examples? I didn't pick up on it in my own play through
@@lux7191 The church.. did you skip over Aubrey saying "Who cares what Mari thinks.. Mari's dead."?
Everyone sad and crying and shit?
@@realtbhandrew its been a year since I played so I wanted some input from ppl who remembered it better
surprised she didn't know how it ended after this late
This part of the game always makes me cry. Its to process of having to put rhe photos together just ahhh :((
wait so Basil was the one who hung Mari on a tree by himself? I mean if Omori agreed to it he shouldn't be mad with Basil :"]
Omori or Sunny?
i don't remember Sunny being mad at Basil, and Sunny's memory was repressed by Omori so he doesn't remember the truth. just the feeling of guilt and fear with no context.
Omori kept killing dream Basil to keep Sunny from knowing the truth.
@@zetroll0372 it can definitely be interpreted that part of Sunny subconsciously hates what Basil did, which is why the secret ending has them smiling at each other implying sunny has forgiven basil and himself after coming to terms with the truth
from the photos we can guess sunny was very dissociated after what happened so basil probably did most if not all of the work involving the hanging
My brother said his favorite character was Mari and he hasn’t seen the truth o7 R.I.P
The “really scary part of the game” she says makes me think fr
i love how u pointed out that she’s using 1st person !! i also noticed that lol
I know it’s unlikely, but I really want her to do the other route as well. It’s just such a shame people only do half the game and call it a day.
but at least with hikikomori route, its extremely long and you have to replay most of the game to get it, which a lot of people just don't have the time for.
@@Wormilu As someone who plays and replays extremely long games to completion on a full schedule in a relatively short amount of time spanning about a week each run, it’s not that hard to do. Same with reading and watching shows.
@@calebgoodman3028 we don't really know jaiden's sched, but she prolly also takes time to setup the stream for the game, also probably working on animations and other work. those can be really draining and tiring motivation wise, i say she should do whatever she wants and plays how she wants honestly. i mean, i could always find another gameplay of another ending if i really wanted to.
it’s possible they play the other routes in their own time. i personally couldn’t imagine doing the hikki route live - i’d want to have time to process everything on my own.
@@ryeyumi I can see that. Still a small video on her thoughts of the other route would be enough. I still stand firm on the belief that people can always make time regardless of schedule which comes from personal experience.
I always refer to characters in the 3rd person because I don't like projecting myself onto them so I didn't switch for this sequence lol
10:18 ayo the pizza here
Interesting that you bring up the 1st person perspective. I would have thought that more people would keep the 1st person aspect of it… I know I was sobbing saying “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry” the entire time. I felt responsible
Omori is an amazing game that I wish I’d played sooner, just finished the game a month ago btw.
had no idea what was about to hit her
So when jaiden said “why are we called omori?” I went and searched it up on Google translate and means k!ll.
I legitimately felt my heart drop for a sec
So that’s what it means
Now you know
its the brand of the piano mari plays
someone just said "OHIO TIME" in the chat
i'm done
she’s so quick with it 💀💀 i was so slow cause i was still hooked on the fact mari killed herself it had me confused😭😭
I'm excited for the video about her explaining her play through (if there's none I will cry)
Silly bagel
I haven’t played this game at all and I’m kinda creeped out
No way someone commented "ohio picture man 💀" in chat when it showed the picutre of omoris family.
The truth is my favourite part of the game
Is it cannon that Sunny was the one who threw the violin down the stairs?
Did I miss something that proves it was Sunny?
Unused/hidden text for the photos in the code make it very clear what happens. But yeah Sunny threw the violin because he was really frustrated about the upcoming concert.
@@WinnaTheKing well there goes my alternate reality timeline. i guess it still works.
@@goosifyed9717 I wanna see your au idea
@@malaksafa4074 basicaly just play as mari, but no one dies, she just gets depression from giving sunny a panic attack.
@@malaksafa4074 oh wait that already exists, fuck.
well i can still keep it to myself and add upon it with inspiration from the mod.
first time watching omori gameplay. the big twist was pretty tame alongside the story ngl but the game seems fun to explore around
If this is your first time watching omori gameplay, then it's not a surprise you don't understand the gravity of the twist. You should play the game to understand it.
@@realtbhandrew gravity of the surprise was still not huge, just made a bit more sense. i ended up seeing more gameplay and story. lots of people people aren't just affected to this kinda thing tho. depends sensitivity on the person
@@ibarra100hd4 get merg, he is crying
Also he almost get every single piece of secret in omori so it is a cherry on top(hehe)
I like the bad morning ost it just feels so dreadful
when I heard jaiden say "Wait She Was Still alive" I started to have my blood kinda boil, mainly because its a pretty big misconception, because of the fact that she war extremely bloodied, didn't breath for multiple hours, and 2 children had ease with holding her means that she was already dead, about the 2 children thing, I thino Omari and Basil would still have trouble holding her if she was alive, as we basically increase our own wieght when were alive
You mean like the fact that dead people shit themselves and lose weight?
It took me so long to figure it out omg. I knew it was an accident but before that I just didn't get why she fell down.
0:17 hey there I am
Is it really weird? Throughout the whole last part of omori i thought just in 1st person. This is probably the only game that got me thinking like that. The guilt was conveyed extremely well. I don't feel it from Jaiden tho, this whole reaction seems pretty off to me, but i think it's the issue of streaming and talking to your viewers. Kinda feel bad for her, cuz that probably made the experience less impactful.
omori lore at its best
I've been an omori and bo en fan since 2017
I got spoiled on her stream. I would be mad but he stream was the reason I played the game in the first place. I cried so hard after her stream. I wish I could actually experience this game for the first time. 😭. But it’s okay because I would have never played Omori.
This part of the game messed me up.
Can you upload the video Whi out all of the text and uncut? You don’t have to put your input I just wanted to see her full reaction
DA TROOF
ty i missed this cuz i fell asleep
As someone whos a huge fan of omori and its characters, watching this is reminding me that while the execution of this reveal is really effective and gripping, the actual concept behind it suffers so much from a visible hand of the author, and actively dampens the impact of the events of the story, at least in my opinion.
Like, in terms of themeing, prior to this reveal omoris themes were incredibly universal and applicable to anyone, specifically in regards to depression and suicide as suicide is obviously a tragedy, but more than that its COMMON. Most people will be affected by suicide or suicidality at some point in their lives, whether it be their own or others and having a place to explore the ways in which people experience the aftermath and how they grieve was incredibly impactful for me and was seriously what made the characters as interesting as they were imo. Hero is one of the characters Im most attached to in the story simply because of the way he dealt with maris death. He never really recovered or got closure, but after what happened with kel at the bottom of his downward spiral, hero recognized that there were other people who needed him and who he had the the capacity to help, that he couldnt halt the flow of time in hopes that it could eventually move backwards.
Now, we take that fucking beautiful character development for him, realizing that he has to exist in the present no matter how painful it might be in hopes that the people who are there will make it better, and recontextualize it under the twist of the end. Where does that leave us? Where does that leave the characters? How do they cope with this? Its never explained. We're just led to believe that everythings fine between everyone, but never shown how they reach that point, which is literally so hard to believe for a lot of people that its a fucking joke in the community that after the good end kel hero and aubrey just beat the shit out of sunny and basil BECAUSE LIKE. YEAH. THATS KIND OF A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. You think it was hard for you, the player, who had to go through like 30 plus hours of this game under the belief that mari had killed herself only to find out the truth? Imagine being one the main party members, having known mari for most of your conscious life, having her be such an important part of your community, HELL HAVING HER BE YOUR PICTURE PERFECT PARTNER, believing that she had killed herself for 2 years without any indication as to why, all while being seperated from your entire central community during the emotional aftermath only to find out the truth from two kids who had purposefully avoided you during that entire time. Taking all this into consideration, I find it REALLY hard to believe that you would be so rational as to see these events from their perspective, and like, I dont even think thats unjustified frankly. You were traumatized by these people, in ways that so easily could have been avoided or at least could have been mitigated. Its really hard to realize that when people are that young that they cant really be held accountable for their actions when they hurt you so fucking much.
So yeah, ultimately the reveal sequence left me literally saying out loud "are you fucking kidding me?" because it really felt like omocat was just using the emotional exploration as a front to get some cheap shock out of the player which is so disappointing. After looking forward to seeing how everyones relationship would be resolved and feeling like that was what the story was leading to, the reveal felt so cheap, like it was simply there because there had to be some kind of spoiler content or whatever. Idk I just spent the last like half an hour writing this and now Im burnt out I hope that makes sense, I dont want to tell anyone they shouldnt appreciate this sequence, I just felt like theres so many people who just kind of take these story beats very uncritically and thats sort of frustrating to me
3 weeks late and its new years but just wanna say, as much as i disagree, i understand completely how you feel. At first this game felt like a pretty great exploration of mental health, alongside the beautiful tale of people living with grief. The twist at the end was so shocking and changed the core of the story so much that i quarelled on how i feel about the game overall.
However, at the end i realize that it rlly doesn't throw the many hours of the game under the bus. So i will say that this game DID NOT forsake them for shock value.
Before i give my 2 cents, but first i'll say that i agree that i wish they gave a resolution or more character moments that truly tells us what these characters will do when the truth hit them.. altho it could very much be there and i missed it.
The tale of grief was not thrown under the bus. Overshadowed, maybe, but the story remains there and untainted. Hero and Aubrey's story remains a beautiful tale of how grief can wreck someone that isn't prepared, especially when that grief came from a person's suicide. As we know, Mari didn't actually die from suicide, so that shifts the main theme of the story of Sunny and Basil into living with guilt more than it is about grief. The tale of grief remains, and it does add to the tale of guilt. They didn't write the tale of grief just to give the truth more shock, they write it to give Sunny a reason to feel so GUILTY, to let the players understand just how much pain he and basil had caused to their friends, and as such helps make you feel more for the pain that they too is feeling.
So then lets go to the bad endings : Either Basil or Sunny or worse, BOTH die by their own hands and none of their friend knew Mari's true death. We saw how it affected them when Mari died. Maybe they can move on, but we know they don't deserve this pain. Their character moments not only give context into the truth and thematic meaning of sunny's story, it also add gravity to them. It makes Sunny's hatred of himself that leaked during Omori's battle hit harder, because we see these character's pain in real time. And we also feel worse for the bad endings, because sunny didnt need to die- because maybe their friends can forgive him- and because we see the hope these characters regained, and to take it away from all these poor kids is too cruel.
I know that it can feel like the emotional exploration was just to add weight for "shock value" (which i disagree with). And i know it can also feel like they ruined the story of grief with the truth.
But as someone whose mental health fell into such a slippery slope because of feeling guilty, i cannot look at the truth sequence as anything remotely close to a shock bait.
When i realize why sunny has been repressing the memories of his sister so much, why he felt so much like shit, why he had to escape to his dream, it helps me feel so much for him. The story was already rlly good with the mental health and grief exploration, but the truth elevates it for me because that level of fucked upness HELPS in communicating to me : if I was in this position, how can i keep on living?
That truth sequence alone made me look at the whole headspace and black space differently. To me who favored the real world the whole game, headspace and black space meant a lot more when i understand what he went through.
Feeling like we were stolen a resolve of these kids overcoming the grief is annoying, but i can get over it because how could we feel like we deserve closure when we were part of the reason this even happened? Exactly.
That's what the entire endgame was about. Sunny letting himself believe that he deserves to go on, to get closure. Starts by wanting to save Basil, and eventually remembering his friends' love for him as the wordss of his head struck him down, it all leads to him finally waking up and telling the truth.
None of that would rlly work if we don't feel for these characters, see their growth. See how they reunite. I wouldn't feel Sunny's self loathing if i didn't know how much Aubrey and Hero loved her. I wouldn't feel like there is a point of going on if not for his friends' loving support we see throughout 3 days.
Yes, we don't rlly know if they will forgive him. Not enough character moments to give us closure on wether or not they will forgive us(and heck, that alone made it feel like the ending is unsatisfying because it felt like no buildup was there at all!)
But i think it's a massive disservice to the game to think that this was just here for shock value. I don't blame you tho, but i'm sharing to you why this sequence and the truth elevates the game for me. I don't think it's uncritical at all, only that the tale of forgiveness is strong enough for people to overlook it
JAIDEN PLAYED ONMORI.??????….
please don't put the text on the screen, if I wanted that CC is there
Bro why they got such Long stairs? I feel like if Mari fell on short stairs maybe she would get an injury or smth Jesus Christ
She played it?!!
Jeez imagine if she played Danganronpa
they were just little kids, man. :(
this was exactly my sentiment when i played this part for myself. they were scared kids :(
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6:34
hey look thats me :D
Which Jaiden is this, again?
Jaiden Animation.
it was during the subathon that's still on going right now. i think she still got 79h left. and it's been 22-23 days.
no VODs (yet?) tho.
No offense, but the extra annotations and narration is unnecessary.
Did Jaiden delete the subathon s?
the vods aren't available at the moment. proably will have the pieces of the stream by topics. (like Omori segments will have their own segment.)
That's my guess so I can't say for sure though.
really appreciate the walls of text that pop up every 2 minutes while I'm trying to watch the video.
Whats an omori?
short for hikkomori, which legit just translates to shut-in
@@_unhaunts ah
gaming
when you make videos like this don't put 3 texts every 3 seconds
Dude the amount of writing about obvious things are annoying. I don't think we came to primarily hear out your take on Omori, I think we came for the clip and to see the screen.
9:49 oh I think about this a lot. I haven't seen the video you linked but it's like. This scene completely rips the player out of any attachment they may have to Sunny. Idk I can't explain it
1:50 "he's got like a tangled up SOMETHING"
Thank you
I like that you pointed out Jaiden used “I” terms rather than “You” terms. In my run I actually found myself to say that too. During the final battle when Omori says, “YOU killed her.” It’s almost as if you are Sunny, the game tries to get you to feel like you’re Sunny. In return you’ll find yourself to say I more than YOU when describing the player character.
Bro took that from a video
@@garrettsin4959bro is incapable of deep thought
I said You
i personally referred to Sunny by his name during the full playthrough, not I nor you, i wonder if that can tell us something about ourselves
@@hanjxoe no one cares
I remember watching Jaiden play Omori, I never felt so scared by a video game since Undertale
Press F to pay respects for the people like me who were sleeping when she was playing
F 😔😔
I feel your pain. I wanted to watch but I was too tired and i missed most of her playthrough 😔
I missed it as an entirety, waiting for someone to take the Omori play through and post it as a separate vid
I didn't even know she was playing it
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this part of the game makes me cry, the way jaiden described it was funny so i went from crying to laughing to crying to laughing to crying and laughing
theres something about your childhood favorite youtuber playing your favorite game that just feels so surreal
for rral
"they make us want to stall to know the truth" I ran through this whole thing knowing exactly what was about to happen, right from the start I KNEW Mari was dead (when she knocks on the door and it showed the Dreamworld version I was like "that's not Mari" and didn't open it)
I’d say that when he reaches the stairs at around 5:15, the music sounds like it’s this very abstract rendition of the white space theme, with many notes surrounding it. It’s this mix of like, familiarity, with a small bit of relief and yet unfamiliar. It’s also interesting that the familiarity brings relief, since the theme is associated with both white space and Mari, the truth and its repression. It’s this comfort that in the moment is way better than trying to figure out the truth.
I always interpreted it as the truth haunts you even in the safest place - like repression just makes it worse! After all, Mari's memorial photo is in Neighbor's Room itself, Mari's hair hangs down from Red Space whose function is to repress the truth, and the duet plays in the Neighbor's Bedroom BGM!
At 9:50, the reason she probably sticks to first person is because she named Sunny after herself. I did the same when I played, and it hit different than it would have if I disassociated myself with keeping it as Sunny (omori moment)
Idk why people think it was a murder, glad she didn't, the pic of him smiling might give hints of murder but it's just because he's in shock and doesn't know what to do, why would he do it on purple if he's feeling terrible about it and stressing in some pictures
Some ppl explaining it like “he purposely killed his sister”, LIKE NOOOO THAT DIDNT HAPPEN LIKE THAT