If you look closely, you see that the reactions on some styles aren't placed as 1-2-3. Such as ghost, the 3 which means overpowered is in the middle instead of on the right
Yeah, while you may be onto something, everyone was told that one, two, and three meant certain things and that's most likely what drowningsome would go off of. If it's how you think it was intented, then it would be too confusing to figure out whether people were saying overpowered or meh.
For those saying hawk is bad, yes it has a lot of downsides like it’s block and no bzck dash, but the trade off is freakin great man. The sway back, NOICE counters, above average damage, and hidden passive being his m1 can cancel healing factors. Also I point out the above avg dmg specifically because Hawk by essence IS a counter style and no style with extra counter dmg has rlly had above avg dmg.
@@iatrue6487 which is an exception. Me pointing out that hawk has very above avg heal cancel with its m1 is inferring that there is only a few others that can do that, not just Hawk.
As I said before, Hawk is a high skill high reward style. People who are saying Hawk is underpowered probably never took time to master it, and people saying it's overpowered simply do not know how to counter it. A tip for countering Hawk is too apply pressure as Hawk cant dash backwards and his dash is bad, Hawk also has bad block so you really shouldnt give him time to recover and KEEP APPLYNG PRESSURE.
@@gorg86 Well it depends, you have to read your oponent and try mindgames to bait out the backdodge. But if the Hawk player is good, he probably wont be predictable with his dodges.
Id say decent reward, since you would have to land a few m2 counter to win a fight which on its own is already one of the hardest thing to land in the game, and if you enemy just doesnt punch and only wait for counter(aka ghost) you cant do anything since your dash is so bad it cant give you enough space, and your punches is so slow you will alway get out speed, on top of that, we are not bot, no human being on this planet can consistently perfect dodge with swayback, and since swayback doesnt give you any distant, you can be heavily punish after missing a pd, it basically an offensive style that isnt too good on offensive. Which isnt bad, but compared to others legendaries, it is the worst
as one of the few hawk mains this is how i like to use it be agressive af, always move forward and never stop instead of doing full m1 combos, throw singular punches, this way i can bait counters and preserve stamina dont rely on the sway back too much, otherwise your opponet will start to try and bait it
Hawk is good if you got the skills, counter and dashes make it insane at both defence and offense, there will practically be no need to block m2s with sway back dash
Delfy_Conagher here (thanks for the Turbulent[Toxic] btw), as a Hawk Main I think Hawk is balanced but the problem is the lack of a back dash. If you perfect your instincts with dodging you will master Hawk easily
A tip on hawk: to make it good u gotta play really cheeky and toxic, (ofc don’t BE toxic) wiggle around a bit after pd m2 to make the opponent frustrated then either m2 again or back dash then repeat, if you think they figured the rhythm out just move back, they’ll think your gonna back dash then just wait, just remember distance is your best friend. hopefully this tip helps newer hawk players 👍
as a hawk main yea this is actually what I usually do, and one more thing to catch those sweet sweet counters you're looking for you just throw your punches at wild timings when they hold block
"m2 guessing game" reminds me of that one character in For Honor that has an unblockable second attack that does good damage and can be both light and heavy
Idk if this happened to someone else but when I always use ghost m1 it’s when the opponent hasn’t the guard on and with the opponent has it on m1 works when the opponent stop the guard lol
1:25 nah this happens literally all the time to me except I m1 BEFORE them and they still land their m1 first despite blatantly throwing it after my fist is already flying
As a slugger main i can confirm that i explain to my friends why slugger isnt busted and they are just not as good as i am (i spammed m2 the whole match)
With good ping i can PD ghost jab so its the weakest in the legendary roster if not used properly. Beacause PD can be activated everytime and has no cooldown its free m2 festival, hawk is PD simulator
shame me but i miss old hawk. it was the counter-puncher/perfect dodging style. if you were in no postion to counter, you would perfect dodge. if you couldnt perfect dodge, you'd counter. (except that people just stood still and backdodged aimlessly with hawk, completely neglecting its counter damage, and so the style got reworked)
As a slugger main the m2 is a guessing game but its really easy to pd sluggers and breaking their block is so easy and their dash is trash still is kinda busted bc of dmg
I main hawk and its pretty good if used by pros i legit perfect dodge sluggers m2 alot since i already got used to them same with other styles like wolf and ippo, sway back can be a downside if u just randomly throw it, trust me if u find a hawk main woth 3k+ knockdown get ready to get perfect dodged even if your using ghost m1
I use hawk like your use brawler, keep you distance close with em and trick them with your back dash when they tryna land hits, now if they starts figuring out that you spam back dash as soon as you get close to them, just wait for them to dash/or wait for you to dash and punch em with m2 instrad of dashing lol
Hawk is the worst of the legendary styles but it is significantly better than a LOT of other styles. The fact that its back lean has so many s that you can pretty much spam it super stupid. Imo they should actually line up the s with animiation correctly (not give it a stupid window) and give it a slight base damage increase
as an old hawk maing it hurts me seeing this guy not knowing how to play it, im not saying he´s bad with it, but being honest you gotta main hawk if you wanna be good with it cause it really changes a lot your playstile
Before being a hawk counter my last fight was against a hawk user so basically my G is destroying me (i won) on my first KD when i got up i dash awayed (im usin ippo and rope a dope strategy cuz its so OP) after the dash i stick to the rope again and he dash straight to me so my dum f thinks i can punch him and he PD, he uses his ult and after the anim i was ready to punch him (im spamming light button on phone to punch first) because i know im faster but then he PD idk what happened but after the ult i was sure i can punch him but it just goes B&W and i realized he spammed the PD to Sway back, predicting that i will try to outpunch him, i use that sane tactic after landing ult since then
As a hawk main, I could say that hawk is one of the best styles, with its mechanic: the sway back, it's pretty handful if you learned how to use it, me personally, I could counter 75% of the punches with it, but nothing tops basic frfr 🗣️💯💯💯🔛🔝
I used it for 3 weeks first try to spam your space 3 time make them think you spam alot but then trick them alot of time hawk allow you to free ult free m2 and annoy alot of people hawk can dodge or even pd every single time
Bruh hawk is overpowered as hell and if someone use it like counter you are dead. That counter damage is insane and if you luckly dodge one of his m1 the hawk user will use back dash and start the cicle again and again and again. he is one of the best styles if you know how to use it
to use hawk you dont really use m1, i abuse hawk by using the dodge mechanic and abusing the fact that the m2s do like alot of damage and that can really soak in
my friend : i think ubg is spoiling me but making real anime fight like counters to style that lost me : kid everyone knows mighty takamura beats sus acting hawk
I wouldnt say hawk is underpowered, it just requires a very specific person to use right. ghost for example is dogshit unless you you fit the very specific archetype is falls under. however hawk when used by its specific archetype (people with naturally good dodge reflex) can completely ignore the directional dodging. Summery : hawk op if used by the right person because we dont have feints
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Thoughts on hawk?
Garbage
pd
Kinda Useless
pd spam(and i love it)
Counter damage is crazy
If you look closely, you see that the reactions on some styles aren't placed as 1-2-3. Such as ghost, the 3 which means overpowered is in the middle instead of on the right
Yeah, while you may be onto something, everyone was told that one, two, and three meant certain things and that's most likely what drowningsome would go off of. If it's how you think it was intented, then it would be too confusing to figure out whether people were saying overpowered or meh.
For those saying hawk is bad, yes it has a lot of downsides like it’s block and no bzck dash, but the trade off is freakin great man. The sway back, NOICE counters, above average damage, and hidden passive being his m1 can cancel healing factors. Also I point out the above avg dmg specifically because Hawk by essence IS a counter style and no style with extra counter dmg has rlly had above avg dmg.
Wait what the hell the lights cancel healing?!!?!
@@ManerConyemas say you hit someone with two M2, they can heal about 70 percent of all the damage you do, with Hawk m1 it reduces the healing factor
fr slugger sucks ass its f tier
Slugger has that
@@iatrue6487 which is an exception. Me pointing out that hawk has very above avg heal cancel with its m1 is inferring that there is only a few others that can do that, not just Hawk.
As I said before, Hawk is a high skill high reward style. People who are saying Hawk is underpowered probably never took time to master it, and people saying it's overpowered simply do not know how to counter it. A tip for countering Hawk is too apply pressure as Hawk cant dash backwards and his dash is bad, Hawk also has bad block so you really shouldnt give him time to recover and KEEP APPLYNG PRESSURE.
what about the backdodge
@@gorg86 Well it depends, you have to read your oponent and try mindgames to bait out the backdodge. But if the Hawk player is good, he probably wont be predictable with his dodges.
Id say decent reward, since you would have to land a few m2 counter to win a fight which on its own is already one of the hardest thing to land in the game, and if you enemy just doesnt punch and only wait for counter(aka ghost) you cant do anything since your dash is so bad it cant give you enough space, and your punches is so slow you will alway get out speed, on top of that, we are not bot, no human being on this planet can consistently perfect dodge with swayback, and since swayback doesnt give you any distant, you can be heavily punish after missing a pd, it basically an offensive style that isnt too good on offensive. Which isnt bad, but compared to others legendaries, it is the worst
How to use hawk: when u see red pres m1 when than m2 than when u see red pres dodge than m2
@@Robert_E._O._Speedwagonnot that simple since his m1's arent super fast and neither are his m2's lmao
3:07 blud used HWs voice😂
As a hawk main it’s really only countered by styles that have mix up potential, everything else is easy to perfect dodge
well everything has mixup potential
@@conarant6430no. Just no.
Bullet can deffeat hawk😢
@@mokpuno4909 and hawk can defeat bullet 😭
@@cuteypoofyosu9198i rarely get beat by people with hawk
On my level atleast
Hawk is actually really good the only problem is that it’s dash is really bad so you can’t move much whenever you want to regenerate some health
u can dodge everything w the back dodge
Still trash, you need to go back after ults because your guard is trash
@@alejandror6088perfect dodge them
@@Robert_E._O._Speedwagon 10 seconds cooldown of pd
@@alejandror6088Theres a cooldown?
as one of the few hawk mains this is how i like to use it
be agressive af, always move forward and never stop
instead of doing full m1 combos, throw singular punches, this way i can bait counters and preserve stamina
dont rely on the sway back too much, otherwise your opponet will start to try and bait it
@@user-us1kj5eg4wparry block dodge
No no
@@user-us1kj5eg4w m1s and then more m1s then even more m1s and then run away (somehow)
@@kp00pDestroyer1wdym by "no"
0:59 Is that wonder of u?
if it’s a noob to above average hawk, it sucks. If it’s used by a pro, be prepared to get every ghost jab perfect dodged
this happens because professional players are good at timing
Hawk is good if you got the skills, counter and dashes make it insane at both defence and offense, there will practically be no need to block m2s with sway back dash
Unless you have high ping 😑
What defense bro, a single Smash M2 delete 99% of your block 💀
3:04 how you landed it first !!!! >:c
as a slugger and iron fist main, i can agree that hawks get a heart attack trying to fight us
as a hawk main, i usually find that slugger is easy to pdodge if they dont spam charges.
I just pressure and corner hawk users.
Delfy_Conagher here (thanks for the Turbulent[Toxic] btw), as a Hawk Main I think Hawk is balanced but the problem is the lack of a back dash. If you perfect your instincts with dodging you will master Hawk easily
Hawk isn’t the worst it’s just your timing for Hawk
A tip on hawk: to make it good u gotta play really cheeky and toxic, (ofc don’t BE toxic) wiggle around a bit after pd m2 to make the opponent frustrated then either m2 again or back dash then repeat, if you think they figured the rhythm out just move back, they’ll think your gonna back dash then just wait, just remember distance is your best friend. hopefully this tip helps newer hawk players 👍
bro is definitely 17k ranked
as a hawk main yea this is actually what I usually do, and one more thing to catch those sweet sweet counters you're looking for you just throw your punches at wild timings when they hold block
As a hawk main i usually adapt to either their styles and how the player fight and i can not stress this enough. I HATE slugger.
That last dodge must’ve felt crazy ngl
Only hit something like that like 3 times
Tips for fighting against slugger, do not try to dodge the m2, attack it
the only way to fight slugger with hawk is to read their moves, no other option you have to predict it
"m2 guessing game"
reminds me of that one character in For Honor that has an unblockable second attack that does good damage and can be both light and heavy
Idk if this happened to someone else but when I always use ghost m1 it’s when the opponent hasn’t the guard on and with the opponent has it on m1 works when the opponent stop the guard lol
hawk probably has the highest skill ceiling off all the legendarys
fr
Fr the only 2 kind of hawks I’ve ever met are ones who are absolute shit and ones who are d1 top 10 expert players
1:25 nah this happens literally all the time to me
except I m1 BEFORE them and they still land their m1 first despite blatantly throwing it after my fist is already flying
As a slugger main i can confirm that i explain to my friends why slugger isnt busted and they are just not as good as i am (i spammed m2 the whole match)
Btw, I don't think anyone will be toxic to me but... It's a joke so before someone comments see this!!
I love when it’s do EEEEEEEHHHH and show the style continue like this
With good ping i can PD ghost jab so its the weakest in the legendary roster if not used properly. Beacause PD can be activated everytime and has no cooldown its free m2 festival, hawk is PD simulator
shame me but i miss old hawk. it was the counter-puncher/perfect dodging style. if you were in no postion to counter, you would perfect dodge. if you couldnt perfect dodge, you'd counter. (except that people just stood still and backdodged aimlessly with hawk, completely neglecting its counter damage, and so the style got reworked)
As a main of hawk you must mastered hawk style or you get doomed in a fight also you must know how to predict there fist
fr the first guy with slugger knows whats he doing with the style damn
3:38 bro started to become Bryan hawk himself
that statue heed broked instantly 2:02
Hawk takes a lot of getting used to, but once you do, there is nothing they CAN do.
As a slugger main the m2 is a guessing game but its really easy to pd sluggers and breaking their block is so easy and their dash is trash still is kinda busted bc of dmg
First was hitman and wolf styles now it’s sluggers great
Let's be real. When Jwordz says a style is mid, he still completly can destroy people using op styles
Iron fist: am I a roach to your worst list
Yoooo this new update gonna be 🔥🔥
Personally i dont use the dash of hawk (sometimes i use situationally) my playstyle with hawk is like a hands low.
Hawk is my main I don’t spam backdodge like a idiot though also Hawk should have the advantage against slugger.
I main hawk and its pretty good if used by pros i legit perfect dodge sluggers m2 alot since i already got used to them same with other styles like wolf and ippo, sway back can be a downside if u just randomly throw it, trust me if u find a hawk main woth 3k+ knockdown get ready to get perfect dodged even if your using ghost m1
Slugger mains are the definition of "if it doesn't affect me why should I care"?
Hawks m1 needs a slight buff just that and hes all good
I use hawk like your use brawler, keep you distance close with em and trick them with your back dash when they tryna land hits, now if they starts figuring out that you spam back dash as soon as you get close to them, just wait for them to dash/or wait for you to dash and punch em with m2 instrad of dashing lol
Hawk is the worst of the legendary styles but it is significantly better than a LOT of other styles. The fact that its back lean has so many s that you can pretty much spam it super stupid. Imo they should actually line up the s with animiation correctly (not give it a stupid window) and give it a slight base damage increase
The last fight was insane ngl
Hawk is actually so good when u know how to use it and im not talking about always dodging attacks
as an old hawk maing it hurts me seeing this guy not knowing how to play it, im not saying he´s bad with it, but being honest you gotta main hawk if you wanna be good with it cause it really changes a lot your playstile
Before being a hawk counter my last fight was against a hawk user so basically my G is destroying me (i won) on my first KD when i got up i dash awayed (im usin ippo and rope a dope strategy cuz its so OP) after the dash i stick to the rope again and he dash straight to me so my dum f thinks i can punch him and he PD, he uses his ult and after the anim i was ready to punch him (im spamming light button on phone to punch first) because i know im faster but then he PD idk what happened but after the ult i was sure i can punch him but it just goes B&W and i realized he spammed the PD to Sway back, predicting that i will try to outpunch him, i use that sane tactic after landing ult since then
Ghost after this newest nerf is mid as hell but alright. Kimura is literally just a nerf to all styles with its slow effect
bro the 60 frame stun on ghost doesn't change a thing if you block and try to attack they already have their jab also hawk is balanced
As a hawk main, I feel pain when I meet a slugger
as a slugger main, I feel joy when I meet a hawk after facing 19 ghosts in a row
Lore accurate
How? Its so easy to pd or counter slugger's m2 with hawk
@@urxis As true as it is, I always fight the really good ones
I used to play ubg and I was god with hawk fighting style but ever since I returned I am bad at this game
I’d still wash anyone with hawk
in my opinion they should give hawk a backwards das a bit more damage and a bit stronger block
The first guy was wildin
If yo using hawk and encounter slugger player remember that M2's timing its always work for me (Idk wot am talking about)
Damn bro was fighting wonder of u in first match
Imo I find Hawk to be a sluggers biggest weakness
As a Slugger main witnessing this video I feel PAIN
Don’t use backdash to much use the side dashes to make the perfect dodges
Once you don’t overthink it it’s one of the best styles
I absolutely hate it when pings screws me over as a hawk main
Me casually perfect dodging ghost/bullet m1s with hawk (it's been a week since I last played)
just spam dodge right
Hello sir,
can you make a new video for the new effects
As a hawk main, I could say that hawk is one of the best styles, with its mechanic: the sway back, it's pretty handful if you learned how to use it, me personally, I could counter 75% of the punches with it, but nothing tops basic frfr 🗣️💯💯💯🔛🔝
if you know how to dodge everything with hawk, THE NERVE YOU STRIKE INTO THE OPPONENT IS INSANE
Like I said Jwordz each style has a pattern and sluggers could be confusing
I used it for 3 weeks first try to spam your space 3 time make them think you spam alot but then trick them alot of time hawk allow you to free ult free m2 and annoy alot of people hawk can dodge or even pd every single time
How much ping do u have?
When you know how to play in Hawk. Hawk can be too good
I’m a slugger main, I usually just play it cuz it’s damn well broken. slugger needs a nerf.
All hawk users tremble before counter users 😂😂
Pls make a video on how to beat bullet
Hawk can be fun and very good its just that its hard to master
i guess i just suck at the game if I lost to a style i mained for a year, WHICH WAS SLUGGER
Ye it's kind of the worst since that it's block just like 2 or 3 heavy of slugger could make hawks block go block break
Dw bro slugger vs hawk outcome is canon
Yoo iron fist just came out I managed to kncok down someone with 80% health💀💀 def balanced
Very
Bruh hawk is overpowered as hell and if someone use it like counter you are dead. That counter damage is insane and if you luckly dodge one of his m1 the hawk user will use back dash and start the cicle again and again and again.
he is one of the best styles if you know how to use it
What do you use to edit
As a former slugger main: SLUGGER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE WORST LEGEND
5:24 any meta abuser in any multiplayer game trying to explain the thing they use isn't op(it obviously is)
the ending is just perfect
may i get the gif, please?
Yo hi jord can u teach me how to play normally in this game
to use hawk you dont really use m1, i abuse hawk by using the dodge mechanic and abusing the fact that the m2s do like alot of damage and that can really soak in
tip on how to counter iron fist: there's no tip, it's impossible with their damage.
Bro hawk is an instict based style you cant always relay on power you gotta have a stratigy
Bro that guys to bro ur only have 50% win ☠
slugger is good just im now an iron fist main i was never like "the average slugger main" because thats just uncalled for and yes, slugger is busted
Wow thats a GOD video
my friend : i think ubg is spoiling me but making real anime fight like counters to style that lost
me : kid everyone knows mighty takamura beats sus acting hawk
Why is your back dash so spammable? Why can't I have that kind of spammable dashes?
ngl hawks m1 speed got nerfed kinda sucks
Should i spin off slugger? 🤔
I wouldnt say hawk is underpowered, it just requires a very specific person to use right.
ghost for example is dogshit unless you you fit the very specific archetype is falls under. however hawk when used by its specific archetype (people with naturally good dodge reflex) can completely ignore the directional dodging.
Summery : hawk op if used by the right person because we dont have feints
Fits chracter since brain hawks just born muscular and always had superhuman reflexes
I encounter hawks on a daily basis whenever i log in a wild hawk appears why is there so many hawk players ;-;
i fought that wonderofu guy before bros a passive hitman dunno why hes using slugger
Hawk dodge counter unpredictable so yea it’s nit that bad 😊
Every style is good, the player does it(hawk is really the worst legendary but, is medium to use