Couldn't agree more! I have gone through so many videos that focus so much on the feet movement, the various check points to follow, the unit turn, etc that it get's very difficult to recreate/emulate. But with this video, it was so easy to understand the basic supination/pronation technique needed to learn the backhand and even the forehand for that matter. Thanks Mahmood!
I had seen many videos and practised but really didn't understand where the power was coming from, now I got the whole point, this is the best video so far about backhand, kudos to your effort and thank you sir, hope more coming.
Jainendra Kumar, Good to hear. Take a look at "Breakdown of Some Refinements". It should give you most of what you asked for. The "pin sharp" drop only comes with enough practice, confidence and correct technique, the latter of which you will get in that video.
Another underrated badminton video. I like the idea of looking 'outside' and 'inside' hands for the supination and pronation concept. This video will be 3 times better had you demonstrated it with on court with the real hit though. For the short hitting demonstration.
Chye Heng, Thanks for your comments, you seem like the thinking type. I have a "Technical Supplement" video where a lot of the shots are better demonstrated. I wanted to keep it simple here yet fundamental to actually learning how to play using the forearm rotation. I was trying to think for beginners as well as those who have been playing but are finding that they cannot really play as good as others and need to know where they were going wrong. Far too many do not believe in the idea of forearm rotation, they would rather say shots are played from the wrist.
Shankar A Glad to hear that. Easiest and quickest way to get people to the top is my aim with these videos. Too many concentrate on the hard stuff, e.g. "powerful smash", ignoring the fundamental elements (seemingly easy) of doing so and not just waste time but actually fail to get there. Get these things right and you will come up with your own things later that would simply be unbelievable to others who started out wrong.
Shankar A Also, not many can see and explain the finer detail of fields they may be experts on. I think not many would tell you about badminton in this way, it would be more of routine stuff and you may or may not understand and develop. I am trying to simplify all of it into the simple, yet fundamental, elements that, if practiced with seriousness, will take you to a super standard within 3-6 months and no stopping the progress after that as you will simply excel and keep getting better
I thought this was the online coaching program :) I am not going through the things people would be expected to do at live sessions. With these videos I have tried to compress as much information as I could so that people could pick 1 or 2 items at a time, practice, get good at it and then pick on more things or compare against how they are currently doing things and see if how I am showing them makes better sense. Some would pick things up from theoretical discussions better than others while others would pick up best through practice. Ultimately, all motor skills require practice. Learning to walk run and jump are all motor skills; the more you do the better you get and the better you get the more you are able to learn. You do things in certain ways then you develop a habit. Good habits give you an advantage over others while bad habits hold you back. If you ensure you do the things they way I have tried to show you, once you get to a point of confidence, you will see how much better your shots are with minimal effort compared to others. You will find you will hardly get injuries if you play backhand this way and use the right grip and equipment. I will try to put together another video for using what you have learnt from the videos I have put together so far and refining it for advancement.
Badminton Fundamentals very good reply Mahmood. I totally agree with what you have said. I am also trying to pick up one skill at a time and work on it. Backhand drives are improving with your guidance. Still there is issue of timing for overhead shots. I am planning to buy heavy training racket so as to get my movement right. Forehand pronation is still not happening as backhand supination. Footwork by large is still not happening the way you described. If possible try to make a video on footwork shadow drills. I am showing your videos to young kids so that they can pickup correct things at early stage. Overall I am really impressed with your knowledge and insight of badminton. Thank you once again for replying. Keep doing the good work!!!
wanwannabe5855, Have you now picked up how to play backhand shots using thumb behind the grip and rotating your whole forearm with wrist locked? If so, have a look at my "Technical Supplement" video. Then try to play soft backhand shots from above your head and bringing the shuttle down in the same way as any other backhand shot. Videos are no alternative for practice but gives you what you should practice to make better.
rvanoop, I hope you put in the practice time and the thinking as only then you will get to see the results. I am certain that if you learn this way you will be way ahead of the rest, and even if they are better than you already it will not be long before you catch up and overtake them. Try it, pitch yourself against someone way better than you and see how long it takes to catch up.
Badminton Fundamentals Thanks sir for your kind reply.Already tried your backhand tips.Will practice more sir.If possible please upload a video on footwork sir.It will be a great help for beginners like us.
Sorry but this video is a little incorrect on backhand grip in parts. No disrespect to the guy for trying to explain the backhand but his tuition is a basic defensive tutorial and would unfortunately teach an incorrect technique in my opinion. He is showing you a pan handle grip for a backhand. The pan handle grip is for backhand serve and minor defensive return shots NOT for BACKHAND CLEAR< SMASH OR DROP. If you try to do a backhand clear, smash or drop with a pan handle grip you will not have good backhand at best you will manage a clear with a lot of effort and wasted energy. To do a backhand clear correctly you need to place the thumb on the smaller diagonal surface rather the the larger flat surface of the handle. (The bevel of the grip is where the thumb should be placed!) His action is correct for the stage he mentions about the ELBOW position he is correct that your elbow should be pointing up towards the shuttle but i disagree with his action for the grip. I did not see any explanation for body rotation when addressing the shuttle in. There is more to this backhand action if you wish to clear or smash with power! The power comes from the whole body. Firstly your foot work needs to be good learn how to move around the court in the X an + formations. There are plenty of videos on youtube to show you how to move around court correctly. Once you have this movement correct then try this: 1. It starts by facing the back of the court looking over your shoulder to the on coming shuttle. 2. Elbow should be pointing up racket head pointing at the foot that correlates to your racket hand. 3. Toes facing back of the court or towards the diagonal backhand corner of court (main racket hand foot leading, 4. Moving weight onto your racket arm foot in preparation to address shuttle. 5. The swivel action pushing up towards the shuttle in an all in one movement starting from the feet, to legs to rotation of hips leading to expansion of chest by the use of extending arms in an outstretched manner towards the on coming shuttle. 6 At the point of contact with the shuttle your arm should be used like a whip towards the shuttle. 7. Immediately after contact withe shuttle your arm needs to recoil back. This whip action gives you the extreme power you need that can be more powerful then most peoples forehands if done correctly. 8. Supination of the Wrist] (should be elbow states in error 8 months ago) movement should be a simple rotation if your elbow is pointing up, at this point the thumb knuckle should be point down towards the ground before you extend towards the shuttle. 9. Simply twisting your elbow so that the thumb knuckle points up. THIS is the correct action for a clear, smash, or drop. Its just depends on the extent of wrist rotation to which variant you wish to apply. The wrist should be firstly locked (thumb down at start of action then when you make contact with the shuttle it should point up. I hope this helps people who struggle with the art of powerful backhands. The backhand clear smash and drop shot is easy to learn if you apply these simple basics to a backhand. My Level & experience. 35 years game experience, Yorkshire league level, partnered ex under 18s England team players. Been coached by International level coaching staff, Played Yorkshire league, Now play mostly for fun at league level division 1 as i'm now in my 50s Hope this helps for anyone wanting to understand the dynamics of the whole process to engage a backhand smash etc...
Do you by any chance know our friend Jazz Lopez? Go back some comments and you will see a great discussion I had with him. Anyway, I say if you know better, good luck but would be nice if you explained the inaccuracy a little before you go so others can learn from it 😊
Like i stated in the comments i'm not disrespecting your Video i just disagree with elements of what you are teaching. I see the pan handle grip as a backhand service grip or a defensive return grip not for use for a backhand smash, clear or drop shot. I hope you can understand the the principle of applying the thumb on the smaller diagonal smaller flat section (the bevel of the handle) 101 basics www.badmintonbible.com/shots/grips/basics/bevel
Sorry i do not know Jazz Lopez. I hope i have not upset you i just have a different approach to advanced backhand smash techniques that i have been taught. I hoped that my breakdown of the action mentioned in my post would help others as i had to relearn the mistake of using a pan handle grip on a backhand clear, smash and drop after early years of incorrectly using the wrong grip.
@@llamudos9809, I had missed all the explanation on your first post, sorry, mobile view was confusing. I had to stop reading it at you saying I showed a pan-handle grip for backhand. I think you totally misunderstood. If anything, I told people never to learn or worry about pan-handle. A pan-handle would make the racket look like holding a pan. If the grip I showed is what someone taught you to be pan-handle then you must be trying to using pan-handle as backhand. Don't worry, you have not said anything yet to upset me 😊 But you really do remind me of Jazz Lopez style of argument. Anyway, good luck with the better way of doing things. Hopefully others will understand what I have explained.
I always engage in discussions and I am not thinking you are being rude and I hope you don't think I am. The flat side of the grip, straight with the flat side of the head is the backhand grip. The next small side is known as the bevel and when you hold there with thumb it's called bevel-grip. A lot of people use that grip to play overhead backhand because they never learnt to rotate (supinate) their forearm. A lot of coaches will not understand it let alone explain or teach it. You may have been a little unlucky. Bevel-grip is useful when you're in trouble with the shot but if you can get to the shuttle while it is still overhead, whether behind or on your side, the backhand grip with supination will generate the most power, whether you drop, clear or smash.
Please see my video on Singles Positioning and you'll see where to stand. Unfortunately, I never managed to complete a video on doubles positioning, but this video will give you plenty to work with. It is not the middle line, you should stand on the side where the shuttlecock is, closer to middle line, and change sides if shuttlecock changes side.
It was a fantastic young man from South Africa called Ronald Ridge. He could send that shuttle from one side of the hall to the other with his backhand. Do you know him?
sir when i try to smash from my forehand side shuttle goes away from right side baseline. what adjustment to my racket position to be done so that the shuttle go straight.
i agree with a lot of what are saying but u have to be careful not to roll over the shuttle as this will take the shuttle down and most likely into the net
Bob b Yes, all about timing the rotation such that at the point of impact the racquet head is flat against the shuttle. The racquet and shuttle would then go in their own way after that.
iWolf I don't recall seeing any wolves around here 😃 I did create a facebook group called Badminton Fundamentals but never got it started. Ask to join that group and we can exchange contacts and discuss more.
Sir, I can play drop shots with backhand , but not the backhand clear. not generating enough power to send shuttle to rear court of opponent ... kindly suggest.
Bhupinder Saini, Nice to hear that. I hope you can visualise what I am about to say. I am hoping you have practised playing underarm backhand against the wall, by rotating faster and hitting harder as you develop it. This is a must to learn hard shots on the overhead backhand. Now, stand facing the wall with plenty of gap, raise your elbow above your face to the side with the racquet head down. Just like you played against the wall for the underarm, swing the racquet above the head and backwards, still with a rotation, pivoting on the elbow. That is your overhead backhand. Develop it by timing it right so shuttle is hit at the center point of rotation so that the shuttle is hit flat and then the racquet head rotates to the other side. I have shown all that but I have now used words to describe it. Let me know how you get on and the day when you whip it down or clear from the same position. The power comes from step towards shuttle, body motion and racquet rotation being timed perfectly. Tighten the muscles just slightly for no more than about a second as you rotate racquet. The rest of the time the whole arm should be relaxed.
can I have a reply, I can play against the wall but playing in the match is different from it.....I am feeling tensed while playing listing the serve..why it is going to be happened
Practice makes perfect... if you are able to play against the wall and can do it fast enough then you should be able to prepare for the same shot during the game. Get some friends to play the shots to you and you learn to return to them. This is the next stage up after the wall.
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 ...but no one is coming for learning new shots ...everyone is trying to play the same shots....no one is supporting me to learn new things
@@satyasangoju4142 hmm, if no-one is supporting you then at least you still have the wall! LOL. I'm not sure what to say as at some point you have to have people to play with. A five minute against the wall with all the different variations of shots and making sure that shuttle never drops to the ground can be more exhausting than playing with other people. Find your way and then you will have people come to you!
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 can we have talk regularly.. about my improvement... I will ask u the suggestions sir!...thanqs for the wall idea..... I want a tip to gain more strength to play atlest 60 minutes continuously...plz have me a tip sir
@@satyasangoju4142 come to this exact comment thread and say what you want and I'm sure you'll get to the level you want. People play all sorts of ball games against the wall so why not play with a shuttlecock. Only difference is you do not have time because shuttle has to stay in the air. Play with your feet apart and moving all the time, holding your racquet in neutral position and get practicing. Within a few months you will be faster, stronger and more accurate than all the others. If you want to show what you are doing in a video, go to Facebook and find Badminton Fundamentals and ask to join the group. I have not really paid too much attention to that group but you could start making it useful.
+Badminton Fundamentals !! Nice video bro. The technique of back hand and more importantly the raquet Grip which you have shown is very detrimental to the success of Badminton for a beginner. The Grip at initial stages if corrected will surely bring in better players. Thanks again...
Swinder pal singh I believe you were trying to say that if people do not learn the techniques as I have shown them when they are learning then it becomes detrimental later. In which case, you are spot on and is the very reason why I put out the videos so people get a good start. Thanks Swinder! I appreciate these comments very much.
+Badminton Fundamentals !!! Mahmood, yup my point was well understood. The racquet grip is the key to Success and you have very well shown how to hold the handle. How to practice with the wall which I am sure is the best video ever seen on Badminton tutions. Keep posting and keep helping people around the globe !!
imran bashir Those who do not know how to rotate their forearms will tell you that. Don't worry, I have heard that many times before and you are yet another! You haven't said which grip. Let me guess, pan-handle or bevel grip (though not much difference between the two) right? Everything has exceptions, when the shuttle is in an awkward position, behind you, because you were too slow to get there on time or could not intercept on time then do whatever to bring the shuttle back but you don't start out learning that. Those who teach this do so because they have no clue. Good luck with what works for you but learn this and you will know the difference.
I'm not sure if this is a question but if you practice long and hard enough to develop the forearm rotation like I have shown in the video then you will find you can send the shuttle anywhere you like. The backhand shot is always stronger than forehand shot but it takes a lot of practice to perfect the rotation.
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 Thanks sir you rightly understood my question. But I didn't understand how back hand shot is more powerful than forehand. That means something I am doing wrong with my back hand. I am beginner to this game.
@@64srinidhi beginners and those who have found their shots are not working as well as players like Lee Chong Wei are those who can truly benefit from these videos. Go practice like I have said for a few hours a week for three months and then come back and tell me how the shots are working. Hear the whipping sound of the racket head as you practice. If you think you can do it after one hour you have not developed the right attitude for learning these things. I'm not saying that's how you might be thinking but just explaining.
No, everyone who wants to develop their shot strength and don't have a good player to practice with use the wall. If you have a bad player who cannot give you the practice, the wall is better.
Badminton Coach - Philip Adams, Feel free to say more. I take it you are not convinced? Happy to hear criticisms, especially from coaches, but there must be enough detail to explain your reasons and not just "I'm better than you" 😊
Badminton Fundamentals hi there, I'm not like that about coaching always here about giving advice. I'm not going to put anyone down :) My coaching is completely different to yours, where your teaching more technical wise and I'm more dynamics & biomechanics.
R.S.V.K Uruthiralingam, nothing wrong with you disagreeing but you would be wrong about that statement. Think of this: there is always more than one way of doing anything but there is always one way of doing it most efficiently. What is most efficient depends on your understanding and what you are capable of doing.
supination of the wrist is correct! but its not just about twisting the wrist. There are alot of elements to allowing the backhand to work effectively. Its a body movement starting from the correct feet position to the upward movement of legs through the hips into the chest moving up into the arm until you reach into the rotation of the wrist. Forehand and backhand is a whip like body action leading up into the arm supernating or pronating the wrist depending on forearm or backhand stance.
Rajneesh, feel free to explain what the correct style is as the whole idea here is to give people the best and the quickest way to learn badminton. It would be a shame if I fail that. In the meantime, you may wish to refer to previous commentators and see if any of those discussions apply to your thinking.
Hi Kwan, always happy to hear a different view. But a bit more explanation as to why my methods are wrong, other than because you play in div.1 would be helpful so others can learn.
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 theres a guy in New Zealand that does the Maths for Badminton.. I spent a day with him.. Hes got one of the biggest smashes ive ever seen,, and his backhand is killer... What you saying, is how you think it is.. but after knowing the real physics of it..ive changed my mind,, and now i play Div 1, supanation and pronation is is only a tiny part of the equation.. but you wont get power that way
Couldn't agree more! I have gone through so many videos that focus so much on the feet movement, the various check points to follow, the unit turn, etc that it get's very difficult to recreate/emulate. But with this video, it was so easy to understand the basic supination/pronation technique needed to learn the backhand and even the forehand for that matter. Thanks Mahmood!
I had seen many videos and practised but really didn't understand where the power was coming from, now I got the whole point, this is the best video so far about backhand, kudos to your effort and thank you sir, hope more coming.
One of the best training lesson for backhand shots. Bravo!
Perhaps the most understandable video on backhand shots.
Nice...will try to execute...Thanks!
Gud training bro
Excellent video Sir; I have played in the wrong way for 20 years.
Will try to amend; never too late.
Thanks a lot for your effort.
I dont think people know how good his instructions are
Thanks for the video. You are a talented teacher and I am sure your students learn a lot from you.
Very useful, thank you.
Arav from Frenford Clubs
excellent video, can visualise the shot when we think in terms of arm rotation. Easy to remember and make a lot of sense
I'm may be a bit late to the party but this is definitely the best backhand tutorial I watched in a while. Good job sir
Very good teaching. 🙏
Very good explanation of the biomechanics involved in the back hand shot. Thank you. Very useful.
Explained very well, thx! the backhand clear is my weakest point... :)
Very good video sir.. Thank you sir...
please make a video on smash, net kills and hairpin drops.
this one was by far the most useful one on backhand basics...
Good Work. keep going.
Jainendra Kumar, Good to hear. Take a look at "Breakdown of Some Refinements". It should give you most of what you asked for. The "pin sharp" drop only comes with enough practice, confidence and correct technique, the latter of which you will get in that video.
Another underrated badminton video. I like the idea of looking 'outside' and 'inside' hands for the supination and pronation concept.
This video will be 3 times better had you demonstrated it with on court with the real hit though. For the short hitting demonstration.
Chye Heng, Thanks for your comments, you seem like the thinking type. I have a "Technical Supplement" video where a lot of the shots are better demonstrated. I wanted to keep it simple here yet fundamental to actually learning how to play using the forearm rotation. I was trying to think for beginners as well as those who have been playing but are finding that they cannot really play as good as others and need to know where they were going wrong. Far too many do not believe in the idea of forearm rotation, they would rather say shots are played from the wrist.
dude for the pronation and supination concept watch some anatomy videos. Imagine a person standng with palms out.
Awesome teaching with detailed explaination. Thank you very much!
This is very important, thank u sir....!
Thanks coach, nice tips on the backhand shots
Brilliant video
This is cool way to learn badminton.. Thanks coach
Shankar A Glad to hear that. Easiest and quickest way to get people to the top is my aim with these videos. Too many concentrate on the hard stuff, e.g. "powerful smash", ignoring the fundamental elements (seemingly easy) of doing so and not just waste time but actually fail to get there. Get these things right and you will come up with your own things later that would simply be unbelievable to others who started out wrong.
Badminton Fundamentals Totally agree. Fundamentals are basic for any field and one must have that
Shankar A Also, not many can see and explain the finer detail of fields they may be experts on. I think not many would tell you about badminton in this way, it would be more of routine stuff and you may or may not understand and develop. I am trying to simplify all of it into the simple, yet fundamental, elements that, if practiced with seriousness, will take you to a super standard within 3-6 months and no stopping the progress after that as you will simply excel and keep getting better
very well laid out explanation! Well done!
helpful video for backhand sir. thanks
Thank you for this useful lesson.
Excellent and clear explanations. Thank you.
Miah Bai good video
Nice one !! good explanation very easy to understand ! keep it up !
THANKS !
Thank you. Your video really helped me a lot
A lot covered but hopefully people are able to select the bits they need. Thanks for the feedback.
Do you have any online coaching program?
I thought this was the online coaching program :)
I am not going through the things people would be expected to do at live sessions. With these videos I have tried to compress as much information as I could so that people could pick 1 or 2 items at a time, practice, get good at it and then pick on more things or compare against how they are currently doing things and see if how I am showing them makes better sense. Some would pick things up from theoretical discussions better than others while others would pick up best through practice. Ultimately, all motor skills require practice. Learning to walk run and jump are all motor skills; the more you do the better you get and the better you get the more you are able to learn. You do things in certain ways then you develop a habit. Good habits give you an advantage over others while bad habits hold you back. If you ensure you do the things they way I have tried to show you, once you get to a point of confidence, you will see how much better your shots are with minimal effort compared to others. You will find you will hardly get injuries if you play backhand this way and use the right grip and equipment.
I will try to put together another video for using what you have learnt from the videos I have put together so far and refining it for advancement.
Badminton Fundamentals very good reply Mahmood. I totally agree with what you have said. I am also trying to pick up one skill at a time and work on it. Backhand drives are improving with your guidance. Still there is issue of timing for overhead shots. I am planning to buy heavy training racket so as to get my movement right. Forehand pronation is still not happening as backhand supination. Footwork by large is still not happening the way you described. If possible try to make a video on footwork shadow drills. I am showing your videos to young kids so that they can pickup correct things at early stage. Overall I am really impressed with your knowledge and insight of badminton. Thank you once again for replying. Keep doing the good work!!!
Nicely explained
Great vids mate
thank you sir. keep it up
I really like your video... really good
Thank you, great tutorial
Thank you so much sir..
please teach me how to do backhand drive/drop shot/ cross at back court
wanwannabe5855, Have you now picked up how to play backhand shots using thumb behind the grip and rotating your whole forearm with wrist locked? If so, have a look at my "Technical Supplement" video. Then try to play soft backhand shots from above your head and bringing the shuttle down in the same way as any other backhand shot. Videos are no alternative for practice but gives you what you should practice to make better.
Great video.Loved your attitude sir.Thanks for putting an effort like this sir for many beginners like me..Subbed...
rvanoop, I hope you put in the practice time and the thinking as only then you will get to see the results. I am certain that if you learn this way you will be way ahead of the rest, and even if they are better than you already it will not be long before you catch up and overtake them. Try it, pitch yourself against someone way better than you and see how long it takes to catch up.
Badminton Fundamentals Thanks sir for your kind reply.Already tried your backhand tips.Will practice more sir.If possible please upload a video on footwork sir.It will be a great help for beginners like us.
rvanoop, I have a video on footwork. Look in my channel and you'll see it called "movement".
Sorry but this video is a little incorrect on backhand grip in parts. No disrespect to the guy for trying to explain the backhand but his tuition is a basic defensive tutorial and would unfortunately teach an incorrect technique in my opinion.
He is showing you a pan handle grip for a backhand. The pan handle grip is for backhand serve and minor defensive return shots NOT for BACKHAND CLEAR< SMASH OR DROP.
If you try to do a backhand clear, smash or drop with a pan handle grip you will not have good backhand at best you will manage a clear with a lot of effort and wasted energy.
To do a backhand clear correctly you need to place the thumb on the smaller diagonal surface rather the the larger flat surface of the handle. (The bevel of the grip is where the thumb should be placed!)
His action is correct for the stage he mentions about the ELBOW position he is correct that your elbow should be pointing up towards the shuttle but i disagree with his action for the grip. I did not see any explanation for body rotation when addressing the shuttle in.
There is more to this backhand action if you wish to clear or smash with power!
The power comes from the whole body.
Firstly your foot work needs to be good learn how to move around the court in the X an + formations. There are plenty of videos on youtube to show you how to move around court correctly. Once you have this movement correct then try this:
1. It starts by facing the back of the court looking over your shoulder to the on coming shuttle.
2. Elbow should be pointing up racket head pointing at the foot that correlates to your racket hand.
3. Toes facing back of the court or towards the diagonal backhand corner of court (main racket hand foot leading,
4. Moving weight onto your racket arm foot in preparation to address shuttle.
5. The swivel action pushing up towards the shuttle in an all in one movement starting from the feet, to legs to rotation of hips leading to expansion of chest by the use of extending arms in an outstretched manner towards the on coming shuttle.
6 At the point of contact with the shuttle your arm should be used like a whip towards the shuttle.
7. Immediately after contact withe shuttle your arm needs to recoil back. This whip action gives you the extreme power you need that can be more powerful then most peoples forehands if done correctly.
8. Supination of the Wrist] (should be elbow states in error 8 months ago) movement should be a simple rotation if your elbow is pointing up, at this point the thumb knuckle should be point down towards the ground before you extend towards the shuttle.
9. Simply twisting your elbow so that the thumb knuckle points up. THIS is the correct action for a clear, smash, or drop. Its just depends on the extent of wrist rotation to which variant you wish to apply.
The wrist should be firstly locked (thumb down at start of action then when you make contact with the shuttle it should point up.
I hope this helps people who struggle with the art of powerful backhands.
The backhand clear smash and drop shot is easy to learn if you apply these simple basics to a backhand.
My Level & experience.
35 years game experience, Yorkshire league level, partnered ex under 18s England team players.
Been coached by International level coaching staff, Played Yorkshire league, Now play mostly for fun at league level division 1 as i'm now in my 50s
Hope this helps for anyone wanting to understand the dynamics of the whole process to engage a backhand smash etc...
Do you by any chance know our friend Jazz Lopez? Go back some comments and you will see a great discussion I had with him. Anyway, I say if you know better, good luck but would be nice if you explained the inaccuracy a little before you go so others can learn from it 😊
Like i stated in the comments i'm not disrespecting your Video i just disagree with elements of what you are teaching.
I see the pan handle grip as a backhand service grip or a defensive return grip not for use for a backhand smash, clear or drop shot.
I hope you can understand the the principle of applying the thumb on the smaller diagonal smaller flat section (the bevel of the handle)
101 basics
www.badmintonbible.com/shots/grips/basics/bevel
Sorry i do not know Jazz Lopez. I hope i have not upset you i just have a different approach to advanced backhand smash techniques that i have been taught. I hoped that my breakdown of the action mentioned in my post would help others as i had to relearn the mistake of using a pan handle grip on a backhand clear, smash and drop after early years of incorrectly using the wrong grip.
@@llamudos9809, I had missed all the explanation on your first post, sorry, mobile view was confusing. I had to stop reading it at you saying I showed a pan-handle grip for backhand. I think you totally misunderstood. If anything, I told people never to learn or worry about pan-handle. A pan-handle would make the racket look like holding a pan. If the grip I showed is what someone taught you to be pan-handle then you must be trying to using pan-handle as backhand.
Don't worry, you have not said anything yet to upset me 😊 But you really do remind me of Jazz Lopez style of argument. Anyway, good luck with the better way of doing things. Hopefully others will understand what I have explained.
I always engage in discussions and I am not thinking you are being rude and I hope you don't think I am.
The flat side of the grip, straight with the flat side of the head is the backhand grip. The next small side is known as the bevel and when you hold there with thumb it's called bevel-grip. A lot of people use that grip to play overhead backhand because they never learnt to rotate (supinate) their forearm. A lot of coaches will not understand it let alone explain or teach it. You may have been a little unlucky. Bevel-grip is useful when you're in trouble with the shot but if you can get to the shuttle while it is still overhead, whether behind or on your side, the backhand grip with supination will generate the most power, whether you drop, clear or smash.
helpfully video I am veryweak at backhand clear .
Thanks very much sir..
very good thank you so much !!!!
Hilo i have problem can you help me
Is it nassary to stand on the midle line of the badminton court accept server and aceptor of serves while serving
Please see my video on Singles Positioning and you'll see where to stand. Unfortunately, I never managed to complete a video on doubles positioning, but this video will give you plenty to work with. It is not the middle line, you should stand on the side where the shuttlecock is, closer to middle line, and change sides if shuttlecock changes side.
Superb
That's good, thank you.
who taught you that amazing backhand Mahmood?
It was a fantastic young man from South Africa called Ronald Ridge. He could send that shuttle from one side of the hall to the other with his backhand. Do you know him?
sir when i try to smash from my forehand side shuttle goes away from right side baseline. what adjustment to my racket position to be done so that the shuttle go straight.
thank you, very useful!!
he is a good couch ..
Great
Bengali ne bhai saab😎😎
V much useful
i agree with a lot of what are saying but u have to be careful not to roll over the shuttle as this will take the shuttle down and most likely into the net
Bob b Yes, all about timing the rotation such that at the point of impact the racquet head is flat against the shuttle. The racquet and shuttle would then go in their own way after that.
well said superb
thank you very much sir........
Where is this? It looks familiar
superb!
thank you!!
I know you're a coach because you live nearby me, I was wondering if you could train me until I'm good enough to be able to play competitively?
iWolf I don't recall seeing any wolves around here 😃 I did create a facebook group called Badminton Fundamentals but never got it started. Ask to join that group and we can exchange contacts and discuss more.
Thank you....
Thank U very very much!
Sir, I can play drop shots with backhand , but not the backhand clear. not generating enough power to send shuttle to rear court of opponent ... kindly suggest.
Bhupinder Saini,
Nice to hear that. I hope you can visualise what I am about to say. I am hoping you have practised playing underarm backhand against the wall, by rotating faster and hitting harder as you develop it. This is a must to learn hard shots on the overhead backhand. Now, stand facing the wall with plenty of gap, raise your elbow above your face to the side with the racquet head down. Just like you played against the wall for the underarm, swing the racquet above the head and backwards, still with a rotation, pivoting on the elbow. That is your overhead backhand. Develop it by timing it right so shuttle is hit at the center point of rotation so that the shuttle is hit flat and then the racquet head rotates to the other side. I have shown all that but I have now used words to describe it. Let me know how you get on and the day when you whip it down or clear from the same position. The power comes from step towards shuttle, body motion and racquet rotation being timed perfectly. Tighten the muscles just slightly for no more than about a second as you rotate racquet. The rest of the time the whole arm should be relaxed.
Thanks for prompt response. will try and revert
Sooo thanks buai
Nice !
can I have a reply, I can play against the wall but playing in the match is different from it.....I am feeling tensed while playing listing the serve..why it is going to be happened
Practice makes perfect... if you are able to play against the wall and can do it fast enough then you should be able to prepare for the same shot during the game. Get some friends to play the shots to you and you learn to return to them. This is the next stage up after the wall.
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 ...but no one is coming for learning new shots ...everyone is trying to play the same shots....no one is supporting me to learn new things
@@satyasangoju4142 hmm, if no-one is supporting you then at least you still have the wall! LOL. I'm not sure what to say as at some point you have to have people to play with. A five minute against the wall with all the different variations of shots and making sure that shuttle never drops to the ground can be more exhausting than playing with other people. Find your way and then you will have people come to you!
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 can we have talk regularly.. about my improvement... I will ask u the suggestions sir!...thanqs for the wall idea.....
I want a tip to gain more strength to play atlest 60 minutes continuously...plz have me a tip sir
@@satyasangoju4142 come to this exact comment thread and say what you want and I'm sure you'll get to the level you want. People play all sorts of ball games against the wall so why not play with a shuttlecock. Only difference is you do not have time because shuttle has to stay in the air. Play with your feet apart and moving all the time, holding your racquet in neutral position and get practicing. Within a few months you will be faster, stronger and more accurate than all the others. If you want to show what you are doing in a video, go to Facebook and find Badminton Fundamentals and ask to join the group. I have not really paid too much attention to that group but you could start making it useful.
Is that Sobell?
No, it is in Bethnal Green.
+Badminton Fundamentals !! Nice video bro. The technique of back hand and more importantly the raquet Grip which you have shown is very detrimental to the success of Badminton for a beginner. The Grip at initial stages if corrected will surely bring in better players. Thanks again...
Swinder pal singh
I believe you were trying to say that if people do not learn the techniques as I have shown them when they are learning then it becomes detrimental later. In which case, you are spot on and is the very reason why I put out the videos so people get a good start. Thanks Swinder! I appreciate these comments very much.
+Badminton Fundamentals !!! Mahmood, yup my point was well understood. The racquet grip is the key to Success and you have very well shown how to hold the handle. How to practice with the wall which I am sure is the best video ever seen on Badminton tutions. Keep posting and keep helping people around the globe !!
@@swinderpalsingh7373 You clearly can't write clearly. In your first comment You literally said the opposite of what you meant.
Thank you?
the thumb should only be placed in the way shown when the shuttle is in front of you NOT for the overhead backhand!
imran bashir Those who do not know how to rotate their forearms will tell you that. Don't worry, I have heard that many times before and you are yet another! You haven't said which grip. Let me guess, pan-handle or bevel grip (though not much difference between the two) right? Everything has exceptions, when the shuttle is in an awkward position, behind you, because you were too slow to get there on time or could not intercept on time then do whatever to bring the shuttle back but you don't start out learning that. Those who teach this do so because they have no clue. Good luck with what works for you but learn this and you will know the difference.
Complicated explanation.. but thanks.
Well explained
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Coach buat subtitle bhs indonesia la
Sorry Jul, I don't know Bhasha to translate and subtitle. I normally use Google Translate but I understood what you were asking me 🙂
My back hand fails we I try to hit from baseline. I am right handed
I'm not sure if this is a question but if you practice long and hard enough to develop the forearm rotation like I have shown in the video then you will find you can send the shuttle anywhere you like. The backhand shot is always stronger than forehand shot but it takes a lot of practice to perfect the rotation.
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 Thanks sir you rightly understood my question.
But I didn't understand how back hand shot is more powerful than forehand. That means something I am doing wrong with my back hand. I am beginner to this game.
@@64srinidhi beginners and those who have found their shots are not working as well as players like Lee Chong Wei are those who can truly benefit from these videos. Go practice like I have said for a few hours a week for three months and then come back and tell me how the shots are working. Hear the whipping sound of the racket head as you practice. If you think you can do it after one hour you have not developed the right attitude for learning these things. I'm not saying that's how you might be thinking but just explaining.
Hi sir I want to meet you
SMT . Group 😊 Happy to talk and meet with anyone with genuine thoughts. Find me on facebook and we can talk. Name is the same there.
Sir your 3 id in facebook send you link
Badminton Fundamentals sir send me I'd like
SMT . Group, "Mahmood Miah" is my facebook ID.
Badminton Fundamentals thanks you sir
Am I the only one who plays with the wall most of the time 🤣
No, everyone who wants to develop their shot strength and don't have a good player to practice with use the wall. If you have a bad player who cannot give you the practice, the wall is better.
Hmmmm ok
Badminton Coach - Philip Adams, Feel free to say more. I take it you are not convinced? Happy to hear criticisms, especially from coaches, but there must be enough detail to explain your reasons and not just "I'm better than you" 😊
Badminton Fundamentals hi there, I'm not like that about coaching always here about giving advice. I'm not going to put anyone down :) My coaching is completely different to yours, where your teaching more technical wise and I'm more dynamics & biomechanics.
with backhand or forhand there is nothing do with supernating or pronating wrong
R.S.V.K Uruthiralingam, nothing wrong with you disagreeing but you would be wrong about that statement. Think of this: there is always more than one way of doing anything but there is always one way of doing it most efficiently. What is most efficient depends on your understanding and what you are capable of doing.
supination of the wrist is correct! but its not just about twisting the wrist. There are alot of elements to allowing the backhand to work effectively. Its a body movement starting from the correct feet position to the upward movement of legs through the hips into the chest moving up into the arm until you reach into the rotation of the wrist. Forehand and backhand is a whip like body action leading up into the arm supernating or pronating the wrist depending on forearm or backhand stance.
"Pan grip for a backhand clear"
Good,, wasting my time to watch this vid
I think you misunderstood, try watching again. My message is DON'T use pan-handle grip, like others say, use backhand grip (straight thumbed). 🙂
Your tips MAY be good, but the BABY SCREAMING in the background makes ANY value of this USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The technique showed is incorrect !
Style of speaking is good !
Rajneesh, feel free to explain what the correct style is as the whole idea here is to give people the best and the quickest way to learn badminton. It would be a shame if I fail that. In the meantime, you may wish to refer to previous commentators and see if any of those discussions apply to your thinking.
dude really....
This is complete rubbish.... I play Div 1.. and I can tell you this guy has no idea
Hi Kwan, always happy to hear a different view. But a bit more explanation as to why my methods are wrong, other than because you play in div.1 would be helpful so others can learn.
@@badmintonfundamentals5535 theres a guy in New Zealand that does the Maths for Badminton.. I spent a day with him.. Hes got one of the biggest smashes ive ever seen,, and his backhand is killer... What you saying, is how you think it is.. but after knowing the real physics of it..ive changed my mind,, and now i play Div 1, supanation and pronation is is only a tiny part of the equation.. but you wont get power that way
@@kwan2290 I see... OK, thanks for explaining.
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