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  • @ChargedCoin
    @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад +5

    **~Hi guys! I would like to make some corrections~**
    I was enlightened that even though Keqing works well in the aggravate team, Fischl A4 is actually the one dealing more damage. As such, in that case, Raiden C0 will likley be superior to Keqing. That said, I still stand by the fact that her damage isn't that amazing at C0, until you get C2.
    Although many have said Xiao is better than Wanderer, I still stand by my pick due to the fact that his ER really has a lot of issues - even after trying to get the whole team's ER up. But that said, it is a fact that he can deal more damage than Wanderer, so my pick for the Wanderer is primarily based off on ease of use + damage.
    Thank you!

    • @vinny8589
      @vinny8589 5 месяцев назад

      Raiden IS the Support. Brother I've seen a C2 Raiden insta kill every Trounce Domain Boss for laughs.Apparently she wasn't even that players's strongest character, it was her C6 Navia and C6 Zhong-li both were outright broken beyond common sense. Zhong-li offers shields, burst spam with high dmg numbers, and healing not to mention debuffs like crazy.. and Navia's Gunbrella would Delete bosses as if they were an insult to her existence. I WISH my Navia and Raiden was that strong. The power of capitalism is scary.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 5 месяцев назад

      @@vinny8589 this is a C0 comparison…

  • @shmuel7689
    @shmuel7689 6 месяцев назад +20

    i disagree with electro and anemo
    you overestimate keqing, in her dendro team fichl done so much DMG in her team and outside dendro she's just a 4star. From my experience raiden outperform her even in quicken and quickbllom teams
    as for anemo i hardly have energy issues for xiao and wanderer suffer so much more from not having C6 faruzan and lack of interruption resistance. and the AOE difference is so large

    • @ironyod1083
      @ironyod1083 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah those seem to be the most common disagreements in this comment section lol. Completely agree

    • @soratenshi2847
      @soratenshi2847 6 месяцев назад +1

      true Raiden and Xiao are better

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for the insights~! Seems I have made some mistakes regarding keqing. Thanks for highlighting!

    • @lastorderx20001
      @lastorderx20001 6 месяцев назад

      The disrespect to Cyno😭

    • @euranaao9362
      @euranaao9362 6 месяцев назад

      I fully agree, I never have issues with Xiao gaining energy, and sometimes he loads faster than my supports!

  • @davezen5100
    @davezen5100 6 месяцев назад +25

    I wouldn't call Raiden a support. Her ability to battery requires playing her on field. And she represents a higher portion of team DPS than Keqing in her most widely played C0 team.

    • @ginoladioray7064
      @ginoladioray7064 6 месяцев назад +1

      keqing won for being a true dps. with or without burst she can dish consistent decent damage unlike ei who is 90% dependent on her burst. thus making the shogun a sub-dps support that hits hard.

    • @ironyod1083
      @ironyod1083 6 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@ginoladioray7064 how is raiden a sub-dps when all of her damage is on field? Also keqing's "decent damage" is hard carried by fischl's a4 passive damage due to keqinh's high electro on field application. It's common in most keqing teams that fischl will do the same if not decently more damage than keqing who exists solely to drive Oz.

    • @soratenshi2847
      @soratenshi2847 6 месяцев назад +1

      raiden is my hyperbloom trigger

    • @jamiesucks7994
      @jamiesucks7994 5 месяцев назад

      She’s a good support for physical teams like Eula who need consistent electro application

  • @arandomguy40
    @arandomguy40 6 месяцев назад +19

    I agree with most of this list, but IMO you are heavily underestimating C0 Raiden. While it is true that she is entirely reliant on her burst, I wouldn’t call it a downside to using her as a DPS due to the sheer amount of energy she provides. If you are not able to spam her burst on cooldown that’s a problem. Also Raiden’s damage output at C0 is not bad at all, and is certainly better than Keqing’s damage output. For my account, I find Raiden to be my best dps, despite the fact that I have no constellations for her.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the input! Will take note in the future :)

  • @Rash7
    @Rash7 6 месяцев назад +12

    People who saw Neuvillette in hydro from miles away 🙋

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hey bro! Nice to see you again! And yup, he’s too good lol

    • @Rash7
      @Rash7 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ChargedCoin it's been a while!! I do occasionally watch your videos but I rarely comment. Been quite a bit busy irl. Yea, he's too good and fun to play. Got his c3 and there's nothing he can't beat... other than hydro enemies lol

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 6 месяцев назад +10

    Guess we'll get a list on best support types next where they give the team a major buff while not slouching on damage.
    So probably Bennet nahida shogun zhongli yelan kazuha

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад +1

      Correct! That’s the plan :) look forward to that video!!

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChargedCoin alright. Good thing I'm already on bell icon

    • @hazelmaple
      @hazelmaple 6 месяцев назад

      I think furina would give yelen a challenge but otherwise yup agree with the others

  • @ginoladioray7064
    @ginoladioray7064 6 месяцев назад +6

    sad that Klee was forgotten in the dps role yet diluc was exhumed from the grave just because Xianyun came.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’m so sorry I missed out Klee 😥😭

    • @harfi212
      @harfi212 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, klee got the early release character syndrome. Just like venti, zhongli before buff, childe, xinyan, diona.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@harfi212 i'm suprised that out of these old characters only Childe and Zl. probably because of Comfort and Internat being good no matter the abyss cycle.

  • @lostrefugee
    @lostrefugee 6 месяцев назад +2

    Agree with picks (except Raiden), but not most of the reasoning.

  • @Duxk432
    @Duxk432 3 месяца назад

    I read your comment but I think that it’s also important about how you build your characters and not all about constellations because if you build raiden correctly she can deal insane dmg with the right build and teammates and ofc the teammates builds matter.
    For xiao I agree that when it comes to raw damage wanderer takes the crown (for anemo ofc) but if you put xiao with c6 faruzan he will deal the same damage like wanderer but yes he needs the correct teammates to work.

  • @Raykushi
    @Raykushi 6 месяцев назад +3

    Couple of comments.
    I don't like using ER as a crux for deciding a characters strength because ER requirements can be circumvented in many ways. In Xiao's case, he doesn't even need to adjust his personal build because his best team uses 3 anemo characters which generate tons of particles for Xiao.
    Navia obviously made sense so I won't comment on that.
    For the 3 electro dps you mentioned, you picked the worst option of the 3. I'm not saying Keqing is bad by any means but Cyno and Raiden, even at c0, are 100% more versatile and powerful than Keqing, so that was just a strange choice.
    Alhaitham was also the correct choice for Dendro, but I should correct something you mentioned about Tighnari. His e cd is decently long, but most of the time the Tighnari rotation has him start with skill and then swap out to other support characters, and then when Tignari switches back in, he does his 3 charge attacks into skill + burst and repeats the cycle, so his longer cd doesn't really factor in too heavily - but yes, Alhaitham is definitely the correct choice here.
    For Hydro, Nuevilette is obviously the correct choice but I feel the need to mention that you completely omitted Nilou from your list despite the fact that she definitely does qualify as a main dps character and is definitely stronger than Ayato and maybe even Childe.
    No complaints about the Pyro section. It can be argued to be a tossup between her and Lyney but overall I think Hu Tao is more consistent. The only issue with her is the risky playstyle and needing her sig for a massive dps boost.
    I agree that Cryo is a difficult one to dodge - I'd say that's probably a good indication of Cryo being well balanced internally. While Ayaka is the easiest to use I find that her role fits between the two extremes of ganyu and wriothesly. Wrio is best for bosses, and Ganyu (in my view) is best for mobbing. So the title of 'best dps' really depends on the demands of the particular enemy and the budget of the player. So, I respect you splitting the title between 2 characters.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the feedback! I do agree with your point about the electro characters, and I totally forgot about Nilou too… thank you for highlighting!

  • @mikkunmikkichi3762
    @mikkunmikkichi3762 5 месяцев назад

    5* in the title is kind of mandatory since xianling is about equal with the 5* pyro dps in single target, but overpowers them all on multiply enemies and waves.

  • @shenrinkisotsuki
    @shenrinkisotsuki 6 месяцев назад +9

    I agree with everything except that Xiao has er issues 😂. His best team has 3 anemo characters hence he doesn’t have er issues anymore and as you said he does more damage.

    • @CTom1988
      @CTom1988 6 месяцев назад +2

      Facts. Xiao's best team blows wanderer out the water. Him knocking enemies away is mostly solved with c6 faruzan.

    • @shenrinkisotsuki
      @shenrinkisotsuki 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@CTom1988 Yup.

  • @snailwhale6673
    @snailwhale6673 6 месяцев назад +2

    C0 Raiden still outputs really good damage and she absolutely does not have energy issues.
    Tighnari is quick-swap, the cooldown and charge atk is actually quite fast and is best with other quick-swap subdps on the team (fischl/sucrose/Kirara/yao yao etc) He's not expensive.
    Neuvillette is braindead but i agree.
    Tartaglia is difficult but Hu Tao ease to play? Wut?

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Do note about the hard to play part - it’s depending/ comparing with their respect element only. Otherwise it would be a top 5 DPS rather than per element.

  • @soratenshi2847
    @soratenshi2847 6 месяцев назад

    what i like about Raiden is that she can be a main dps, a sub dps and a support, very versatile

  • @reddevilsunited_2060
    @reddevilsunited_2060 6 месяцев назад +1

    Best 5 star supports and 5 star sub dps for every element video coming some day ?

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Probably! Stay tuned!

  • @lexxxie_52004
    @lexxxie_52004 6 месяцев назад +2

    Xiao and Wanderer difference is debatable. Xiao has become stronger now because of Xianyun which is Godly when paired with Furina. However, his mediocre constellations hold him back against the Wanderer. Wanderer has cracked SS tier constellations which makes him far stronger than Xiao before Xianyun and Furina’s release.
    I’d say as for now, Xiao is already at his peak power and team comp which makes him the current strongest Anemo DPS. On the other hand, Wanderer has more potential since he still has no Xianyun-like figure in his best team comp. Bennett’s heal has 70% cap and it doesnt work for offield characters; Jean is good at healing but is weak at buffing damage without C4 and since she’s Anemo, she can’t proc any elemental power-ups for Wanderer’s talent. If Hoyo ever release a strong Cryo or Pyro healer that greatly buffs normal attacks, Wanderer will have the edge over Xiao again.

  • @trickmonster7905
    @trickmonster7905 6 месяцев назад +4

    If you’re making a DPS tier list then saying CA are clunky to use is just wrong lol. Lyney has already proven himself to not make mono pyro a disadvantage. Vaporise damage is 1.5x while Lyney with mono pyro gets 2.0x..
    Also you are heavily overestimating the problems that burst reliant characters face:
    Xiao ER issues (which is just not true with a c6 faruzan and a xianyun
    Raiden ER Issue (which is ALSO not true as your are building ER on her usually at 280%)
    Cyno ER issues are somewhat true but in a pure DPS standpoint he’s just… better than keqing idk what to tell you
    Ayaka is literally also burst reliant. Not 100% cuz he skill and CA but they aren’t THAT good that they carry her. Wriothesley is just better
    The only character I agree with on this tier list is Alhaitham and Neuvillette.
    Overall this is just too many self opinions and doesn’t actually go off of calculations which a tier should be going off of 😅

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Thing is. Damage is not everything if you can’t use it effectively. Yes, lyney does huge damage, but compared to another character who can literally do more damage in the time he takes to charge, does that really make him better?
      Xiao’s ER issues are still an issue and I am using him with both C6 Faruzan and Xianyun (both are using ER weapons). Not everyone will have Xianyun and Faruzan either.
      Raiden’s ER issue is not that huge of an issue, but based off of the damage she can deal at C0 at that 7 second burst window - not too much honestly. And she really is more of a burst support to drive national team especially.
      But thanks for the comments, I’ll try to improve next time as well 😊

    • @Sukiato
      @Sukiato 6 месяцев назад +1

      Preach trickmonster 🙌
      People often overlook that even though Mono Pyro has no or little reactions (I play him Overload) with his kit it just completely makes up for that.
      Also if you're properly building him his charged shots and prop hats hit like a TRUCK that more than make up for the time 'lost' charging.

    • @ironyod1083
      @ironyod1083 6 месяцев назад +1

      Not to mention lyney having absurd front loaded damage with his skill and burst.

    • @trickmonster7905
      @trickmonster7905 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ChargedCoin For that first part. Yes. If Lyney does more damage in the same amount of time it takes Hu Tao to do hers then yes he is a better DPS idk what to tell you. Lyney is also always paired up with Bennett (which also gets rid of his HP problem which you mentioned was a con in your video). I can see the arguement of Hu Tao being better but IMO Lyney still takes the cake..
      My Xiao has 0 ER and using Xianyun and Faruzan Fav and Fav Furina and i get no issues whatsoever… idk what to tell you about that. In a pure DPS vs DPS tho, with the release of xianyun its just no competition, scara is more convenient for overworld but in abyss i would never pick scara over Xiao
      Also when comparing DPS characters its only fair to let them use their best teams as you are comparing the ceiling of each character lol
      Raiden at C0 is very lackluster yes but keqing still does not deal more damage. Raiden can very easily also be used as a hyperbloom driver and aggregate driver just like keqing. Imo the best electro dps is cyno. Yup he gets carried by hyperbloom but thats just his kit so its not a con… it’s a pro.
      I’m not hating Im just giving my opinion and feedback so im glad you didn’t see it as an attack 🙏

    • @Luci3364
      @Luci3364 5 месяцев назад

      Dude forgot that xiao team is expensive.
      A character can be Best not only From big Dmg but Also team investment, weapon choice and team comps where wanderer wins

  • @joranvanolphen9892
    @joranvanolphen9892 6 месяцев назад +6

    7:20 yes alheitham is still the better dendro main dps, but you are underselling Tighnari here. I am a Tighnari main. Just like you wouldn’t prefer yea miko mono electro, it is viable but other team(s) are way better.
    He deals lots of damage quickly so his shorter onfield time is his strength. Quicken is a versatile reaction since it doesn’t need a lot of re-application like melt, vape, bloom or electro charge.
    He is an amazing quicken driver that works with many character of different investment levels.
    Lisa, fischl, beidou and yea miko are great pairings in electro characters.
    Baizhu, yaoyao, nahida and kirara offer good dendro utility to his team.
    He works great with character that don’t intervene with quicken and can boost his or his teammates damage.
    Sucrose and kazuha can wear VV to enhance electro damage
    Zhongli and albedo are very good buffers for his team as well. Zhongli bringing shred and albedo bringing EM buff.
    His best teams are quicken, either aggravate or spread, so judge him based on that, not hyperbloom
    11:20 Lynney doesn’t want to trigger reaction, his kit specifically buffs mono pyro. His damage numbers are also very over tuned due to the fact that he doesn’t want to trigger reactions. Attack speed also doesn’t matter if that one hit is very high.
    11:53 but hu tao is also very hard to play optimal right? Dash canceling, jump canceling, stamina costs unless C1, shielder preferred due to always being at less than 50% hp (a bit countered by her hp scaling), her vaporize style being locked behind Xingqui and yelan
    14:12 so are we just ignoring the fact that optimal ayaka teams are very costly in characters when it was a clear con with Tighnari?

    • @pran149
      @pran149 6 месяцев назад +1

      I do honestly majorly agree with your opinion so make sure to subscribe as "charged coin" will most likely make "fixed" video as multiple times before..... Also please be a bit more polite(at the end)

    • @joranvanolphen9892
      @joranvanolphen9892 6 месяцев назад

      @@pran149 apologies, i thought the comment was already getting lengthy and wanted to get my last points across quickly. And i am already subscribed i believe.

    • @pran149
      @pran149 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@joranvanolphen9892 nice to know! Appreciate fellow loyal subscribers

    • @ironyod1083
      @ironyod1083 6 месяцев назад +1

      Lyney > tao
      And wriothesley > ayaka
      wriothesley doesn't need 50 5 stars to be only usable in 1 type of combat chamber

    • @alexisballebar4472
      @alexisballebar4472 6 месяцев назад +1

      Agreee tighnari is so fun and strong character…

  • @brandonexilus2212
    @brandonexilus2212 6 месяцев назад +3

    Another great video 🎉

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, glad you think so!

  • @carlossherif
    @carlossherif 6 месяцев назад +5

    Tbh I think that raiden is better than keqing as her er problem can be resolved using the emblem set

  • @Luci3364
    @Luci3364 5 месяцев назад

    @chargedcoin
    You did gave right info
    No need to worry.. especially about wanderer xiao.. this guy's have issues.they just focused on xiao Dmg, ignoring his team investment,er problems and how his kit relies on burst like cyno Raiden

  • @tomatorama
    @tomatorama 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hello fellow sgrean, nice video, subbed!

  • @soratenshi2847
    @soratenshi2847 6 месяцев назад

    i feel like even my grandma can beat the spiral abyss with neveulette

  • @nikumilotic1333
    @nikumilotic1333 6 месяцев назад +3

    Xiao is definitely doesn't have er issues after xianyun and furina release
    Xiao's best team has like 3 anemo character and you can use fav on furina

    • @ironyod1083
      @ironyod1083 6 месяцев назад

      With triple anemo he only needs 115% er since faru and xianyun run fav. Also unlike wanderer he has actual aoe and doesn't need a shield to be fun

    • @nikumilotic1333
      @nikumilotic1333 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ironyod1083 fr
      Most of character explanation were just whattaboutism tbh

    • @hellofriend2799
      @hellofriend2799 6 месяцев назад

      Bro said wanderer and reasoned literally his kit instead and call it a day

    • @raskinabuel818
      @raskinabuel818 6 месяцев назад

      The video creator is Wanderer simp thats why HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @lastorderx20001
      @lastorderx20001 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@ironyod1083triple anemo does not need 2 favs that is ridiculous

  • @usmanya5110
    @usmanya5110 5 месяцев назад

    eh not sure about Anemo or Electro.
    C6 Faru made Xiao have less CC issues and now we have Xianyun and 3 so triple anemo makes his energy alot easier even if C6 faru already fixes it.
    The electro dpses are mixed honestly. Like Raiden's damage is good not great but good, Cyno might have the highest damaging team but his MT issues can be annoying, Keqing's damage is pretty low and in aggravate she's mostly an aggravate driver.
    i'm suprised Gaming is not shown.

  • @rust8995
    @rust8995 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yoimiya can be good if you use her in the right team. None of her teams in the video are proper, no wonder she is underperforming. Lots of teams that are given to her are more like open world exploration teams rather than abyss teams, the synergy is non existent. Surprisingly, you got Hu Tao teams right. Finding yoi being played in a team that is at least as good as her most mainstream vape team (yoi zl benny yelan) is so hard while there are so many better teams for her... is it that hard to give her a proper team for once? Is it illegal to pair her with Bennett+vape in one team because it makes her good? Or maybe overload?

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      The clips were really just examples honestly. I normally play her with Yunjin, sometimes overloaded and sometimes with Furina.
      But that said, even if you pair her with Bennett - her damage is a lot less than say hutao, due to her ICD and single target, which is my main point in the video. I’m also a Yoi main, but a fact is a fact.

    • @xdragon2k
      @xdragon2k 6 месяцев назад

      @@ChargedCoin Yoimiya is just a boss killer. Single target. I used her for Scara weekly boss everytime. I paired her with Yelan and Zhongli. The last spot is going to be a healer.

    • @rust8995
      @rust8995 6 месяцев назад

      @@ChargedCoin I didn't see the damage since you didn't show it though? Despite of having ICD, yoi's 100k vapes with bennett should make up for it, and she does not even need her sig to do such damage. Double hydro zhongli is a hu tao team, and it's one of the worst team for yoimiya because there is not a single atk bonus source for her as atk scaling unit... and her horrendous damage in that team totally makes sense since her core support isn't there. There is also always a way to get away with crowds, such as kazuha and yoi's own elemental burst. But you used venti who does not work with her most of the time as well. There is also no showcase of hu tao against crowds as well. Just hu tao in her best teams against bosses vs yoi in a very random dysfunctional team vs crowds to make a point. Also yunjin is always a bennett downgrade unless you pair her in double geo vape with over 2.5k DEF + C6. Being her main does not justify using a team that does not work, you know. Literally most of other DPS have proper team but yoimiya here

  • @pran149
    @pran149 6 месяцев назад

    I personally would like it more if you added c6 4* characters in the list since some are actually very good and conditionally even better.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Agree, but this is a 5* list! I have a 4* list as well in another video. You can check it out!

    • @pran149
      @pran149 6 месяцев назад

      ​​@@ChargedCoini am sorry but i can't find that video... The only one I see is "4* characters you need" which majorly discusses supports

  • @Djax666
    @Djax666 6 месяцев назад

    So Klee is not even mentionned.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Omg, I’m so sorry… I totally forgot about her!!

  • @morrismonet3554
    @morrismonet3554 6 месяцев назад

    I have C2 Raiden, and she is the best for me.

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Agree, I have her C3 too. She is my strongest burst DPS too

    • @hybrid9748
      @hybrid9748 6 месяцев назад

      I also have c2, she's great and also fun to play

  • @irenemathew6699
    @irenemathew6699 6 месяцев назад

    Finally someone who explains nicely!🙃

  • @w444rbv
    @w444rbv 6 месяцев назад

    Is that ai or are you from china

    • @ChargedCoin
      @ChargedCoin 6 месяцев назад

      Are you serious…

  • @cuocsongcuatutu6864
    @cuocsongcuatutu6864 6 месяцев назад

    Confirmation bias. Please dont do such a video like this without data evidence and team comparision dmg at C0.

  • @kaibacorp13
    @kaibacorp13 6 месяцев назад

    Raiden isn't on field dps but mostly support at c0😂😂😂 omg dude best joke I heard in this year til this point 🤣🤣🤣 ur so funny and that was great joke

  • @God_Reaper_6000
    @God_Reaper_6000 5 месяцев назад

    holy shit the glaze is real.....wanderer for anemo???? how high are you???? xiao is too strong at c0 for wanderer to even compete. also electro keqing??? ya, i am not even watching it anymore, this is so cap, for c0 cyno is the strongest electro DPS in the game, at c2 or c3 maybe raiden can cover the gap. cyno, furina, baizhu and nahida is literally unparelled in the electro department. stop spreading mis information dude. this is absolutely false information after false information

  • @superjavierstar
    @superjavierstar 6 месяцев назад +2

    e

  • @shenrinkisotsuki
    @shenrinkisotsuki 6 месяцев назад +2

    First comment 🎉

  • @purrmaterialgworl6938
    @purrmaterialgworl6938 6 месяцев назад +2

    Lyney at c0 > hutao at c0. Argue with the walls