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- There's been no shortage of media about Texas and its fight for independence at The Alamo and one new book takes a look at what the authors say really happened. Two of the authors, Bryan Burrough and Chris Tomlinson, discuss "Forget The Alamo: The Rise and Fall of an American Myth".
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I’m a Texan and they’ve been doing this for years.. In 7th grade Texas history I wrote a paper saying Texas seceded from the Union because of slavery, and the teacher gave me a failing grade.. So, I brought him a copy of the Articles of Secession (Texas) to show him the next day.. Showed him how it mentions the words slave, slavery, and slave-holding 27 times, and it didn’t mention states rights once.. Nothing..
Then my dad went and talked with the principal and I got a “C”.. lol..
I’m glad you and your family prefer to focus in real facts vs play the alternative reality that is convenient for others
Primary sources are awesome.. No opinion.. No conjecture..
The alamo was not during the civil war
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Lol.. I never said it was..
@@jacobjones5269 Then what does this comment have to do with the video?
I grew up in Texas as a “person of color” and I knew from a young age that there were Tejanos fighting for the side of Texas. I also know that the end goal in the conflict was to be annexed to the United States. No history is clean, but it doesn’t change my status now. If anything, it’s teachers and professors who think like these two who tried to tell me I was less because of my skin color and there was nothing I could do to change that. BS
The end goal was not to be annexed, they wanted to be annexed way after the revolution itself due to immense debt and bad economic development.
You are an American
@@craigmignone2863 thank you
This is absolutely correct. There are people who want make certain people perpetual victims. With this constant victim status then there are those who can then blame the rest of us for the problem they don't want to solve. The bottom line is, and facts are a very stubborn thing, that these people gave their lives when they did not have to. Sam Houston and his forces fought and defeated Santa Anna and won independence for Texas. For almost 200 years Texas has operated either as a free Republic or part of the United States. No matter how the rest of the story gets told those are the facts. To borrow another phrase, Don't Mess with Texas.
I was never taught I was less , in fact I thought anyone who talked that way was less. And I'm not someone of color. I'm Mexican American and that's it. As a child we use to recite this " God created gingerbread men cookies. Some came out undercook, others burned , and we just right.
you should see the Mexican version of the Alamo
It's been said, History is written by the victors. That's never been more true than the Alamo and the Texas revolution. Why did the settlers revolt? We are told Santa Ana was a ruthless dictator. The settlers came to Texas for free land in exchange they agreed to become Catholic and slavery was illegal in Mexico. The settlers took the land and rejected their part of the agreement. They never intended to become Catholic or free their slaves. But, because Santa Ana was so inept as a leader, the Texans prevailed. Hispanics living in Texas were viewed as second class citizens. That attitude continues today. As a Hispanic with my first ancestor came to America in 1720, I can testify to that. I'm actually Hispanic/ German but I have brown skin and that's what matters. I'm not playing any card, it's just reality.
And I have white skin, but YOU are the one saying that the skin color matters! You are the one, not the Whites. No race is hated more than the whites, and all races blame the Whites for their problems, even though it’s the Whites that have brought the world to a better place, made the laws that freed all races in America, made the inventions that saved us all, and discovered the medicines that save us today. I am the one discriminated against because of my White Skin, hated because of some one else’s ancestors that bought slaves from OTHER BLACK PEOPLE IN AFRICA…Indians,Blacks, Orientals, and all other races despise White men, but want their White women. The earth will cry when the Caucasians are destroyed, because they saved the inhabitants!!!
Catholic sadly enough is misrepresented by TV and other thgs....to me plz correct me if wrong....the letters stand for what is?...c=cultivating..a= agricultural/agua...t= threading= h=home..=o= obtained/orderly=l=linens\lumes...I=?...c= cultivating/curing/ canning(preserving....this modern words and such causes such travail
Is wasn't just the colonists, many native Tejanos and several Mexican provinces were opposing Santa Anna's Military dictatorship and Centrist government, he basically jettisoned the Mexican Constitution , imposed a despotic government and declared himself "Supreme Ruler".
The arrogance and dishonesty of historical revisionism is revolting.
San Jacinto = war crime
yeah the stupid ass myth's about davy crockett and all that shit is so disgusting. just a bunch of slave owning cuckolds stealing land from Mexico, who had already done away with slavery. it's really disgusting they would lie about these WHITES being tejanos and fighting for texas. What horseshit.
just like how texas revolted😊
Don’t say what you’re offended by….. but you know better? Okay how?
You cant handle the real Truth.
Another propaganda book without historical research or knowledge.
What about Sam Houston being a very very strong anti slavery guy? What about the Mexican history that supports the traditional Texas history. Sounds like more woke BS. I’m interested in knowing the authors’ political affiliation; where they got their degrees; and who financed them - directly or indirectly. (For example of indirect: are they tenured professors …)
Excellent! These guys, especially the one on the right, is full of it. He has a political agenda to help promote. Forget purchasing "Forget The Alamo". Find out these guys political affiliations. Do some fact checking on them. Just checked in on Chris Tomlinson. He's a Left Wing bigot. His book is only good for toilet paper.
Excellent comments ! Good work ! I have several historical comments on several Alamo ,You Tube sites you may enjoy .
@@bhartley868 I will check them out
@@bhartley868 I looked under B Hartley. No alamo results. Give me an address
Why not judge the book on what's written in it?
More woke critical history... Sounds to me.
Sounds to me like you cant handle the Truth.
Wokeness has never used the truth.
More revisionist nonsense from hacks just trying to sell a book. And BTW, what in the hell does a lunch counter have to do with the battle of the Alamo?
looks like you cant handle the Truth.
@@gervas4935 I read history, the crap in this video is not the truth. Funny how you use the same response over and over, troll.
@@es2056 you read what has been written about history. You don't read history. For all you know we come from Mars.
@@OscarMoreno-cg1og Don't try to parse my words, you suck at it.
@@gervas4935 The truth is, it didn't belong to the Texians just like it didn't belong to Mexico or Spain. If you're gonna be woke, then let's be honest about it, and give it back to the true owners, the Native Americans. Mexico only had claim to Texas after they won independence from Spain and only had Texas for 15 years.
It's the Alamo, not the complete history of the state of Texas. These two woke men need to get a grip.
Are your feelings hurt learning the real Thruth.
@@gervas4935 I spoke the truth. No battle, no Alamo. If Santa Anna had his way it would have been pulled and destroyed before his troops left. That is a fact.
There were Tejanos (Mexicans that settled in Texas) that were against Santa Ana as well that lived in San Antonio and some of them died defending the Alamo and for the fight for Texas Independence. Santa Ana did away with the constitution of 1824, which gave much power to the people and the states and basically took power and became a dictator. In the beginning, Texians(Anglos settled in Texas, and the Tejanos (Mexicans settlers in Texas) fought for the constitution of 1824 then later fought for the Texas republic (independence). It is true that the Texians did want to keep slaves but there were many other reasons that the war for independence was fought so don't only highlight what fits your agenda to sell books. If you wokesters really want to be righteous, let's give Texas back to the true owners, the native Americans that were here before the Mexicans and the Spaniards. Give it back to the Apache, Camanche , Lipan, Wichita and Tonkawa. Oh, and by the way, Mexico only had Texas for a whopping 15 years, before that it belonged to Spain for 105 yrs, give or take.
@@gottogosavelives5715 Very true, but that is not my point.
There is not need to forget the Alamo, we just the ignore history lies written about it.
For Catholics and for many texans, the Alamo will continue being an historic place that contributed a lot for the initial development of Texas.
My only thing is this guy makes a lot of clams as to what is false information such as Travis wanting to surrender the night before his famous letter...but he also doesn't state his sources..my guess is it is from Mexican military reports. Which can be dubious since Texian letters from the same time period say something entirely different of the same historical event...which means both sides are here say at best...So to present either side as hard historical fact is irresponsible....What we do know for a fact is this... between February 23 and March 6 1836 a Texian force of around 180-200 men were besieged at the Alamo by a Mexican force of anywhere between 1800 to 6000 men (depending on what account you believe)by the end of the 13 day siege all or most of the Texian defenders where killed in battle or executed outright (whether the defenders meant for it to be a delaying tactic doesn't matter because it did in fact delay the Mexican army for thirteen days and at that point held no real strategic position and at the cost of between 400 and 1600 needless casualties for Santa Anna's forces)
Ok so after looking both of these guys up both have hard core left leaning politics that come to play into the narrative of the book....I prefer my history to be sullied by neither side...I wouldn't make angels out of Travis, Crockett or Bowie, but I wouldn't take away from the accomplishments of these men either
lol you cant handle the truth and now your making up 6,000 men lol. I have never seen that number. Just pop them up out of your behind lol.
@@apollyontw7863 travis and croket were criminals and loved slavery.
@@gervas4935 if you are going to take something I say and twist it at least get it right.." a Mexican force of anywhere between 1800 to 6000 men (depending on what account you believe)"
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These guy are just pushing their book...no one knows for sure what happened back then. Gee, get real. Why bring up more craziness in this already crazy world. WTF
Bull ...Your facts took almost 200 years to be researched>??????....We will never know the real truth!....More racism brought up from a time in history when things were different!
I've read the book. The authors, to their credit, do not claim to be historians, and the writing reflects that. It's not a historical account, and it reads like a magazine feature story.
The problem is that the authors -- and many historians (professional and amateur) as well -- too often cite their mere theories, opinions and interpretations as absolute fact. They also tend to use sources that agree with their agendas.
I'm not in love with the Alamo myths or the heroic legends. But the actual truth of what happened there is something we flat-out do not know -- and never will know -- until somebody invents time travel.
The modern consensus of historians on the Alamo, however, agree with these guys.
What we DO have is all the evidence thus far lining up with these guys and NOTHING supporting the popular Alamo mythology.
Considering one works for Vanity Fair and the other the Houston Chronicle, you're opinion of the authors is correct.
@@PhrontDoor The modern consensus among you Leftists is that biology doesn't matter and people can choose their gender at will. Go away fucktard and quit posting the same argument over and over again.
@@PhrontDoor You mean the consensus of Left Wing Marxist traitors that are teaching our children the so called Critical Race Theory which states that all WHITE PEOPLE are Racists. That Traitor Obama said that Racism is in White People's DNA. Obama never had a REAL JOB. He was a community organizer and was elected to the Presidency of the United States because he was black. Obama was a smooth talker that "Used his pen and phone" to BREAK federal immigration laws and only enforce laws he agreed with. Pathetic.
@@johnadams5489 Hmm... really? Precisely WHERE are they teaching CHILDREN crt?
I'll wait.. you'll fail.
My cousin is a history teacher. I mentioned something to him that struck a chord and he said it brought something to light he didn't understand. One thing that is forgotten is that the main defenders of The Alamo were members of the Masonic Tradition. Thing is, so was Santa Anna and this is why Santa Anna in a letter to the defenders he called them "brothers." That is one of the reasons that Santa Anna gave them the opportunity to leave without fear of reprisal or he would kill them all. When they refused to leave the word of one Mason to another Mason is to be kept. So, Santa Anna attacked. Thing is, all the defenders didn't die. Many were captured and either died by a mistake or shot outside the walls.
True. Didn't Santa Anna wrap Mrs Dickenson in his masonic shawl after the siege, and offer to take their daughter to Mexico for a good education? Of course, John Wayne didn't mention this,....
There is an old line from a John Wayne Movie that says "When the legend becomes fact ,print the legend". I tend to believe the legend(s) and these two guys can take their facts and shove it where the sun don't shine.
You are quoting from the great "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance." I agree the line in the sand is probably legend, but everything they said is mostly Bull Shit.
I agree 100%. This sounds like some kind of woke revisionist crap. If they looked farther ahead they would see that Sam Houston was governor of Texas in 1861 and was opposed to secession.
There Just trying to rewrite history again. To fit a certain sweeping narrative.
Greetings; I found this comment exemplary of an attitude that's not interested in the truth; there's an old adage that goes like this; a house and it's foundation built on quick sand will never stand; it's like the truth ; you can bury it as deep as possible; it may stay bury, but it's something about it's intrinsic nature causes it to rise and rise and rise! Remember nothing is worst than a lier and the lies they tell to build themselves up!
These 2 revisionists make me want to puke.this was never about slavery.what a pair of goofballs.
There was a flag waving over the Alamo red white green with 1824 on it. It stood for 1824 mexico consatuion that the reason they came to Texas land was dirt cheap,were it was $1.50 and acre, They became Catholic and Mexican citizens,some marry Mexican women for more land,Mexico was broke they won their freedom from Spain,so they had to get American citizens to come,so they sold land dirt cheap and come they did,if the brought slaves it was very few(There use be a saying Texas was good to man and dog but was hard on woman and cattle)some barely fed them selves and family let alone slaves.They were good citizens to Mexico until they tore up the 1824 paper that when all hell broke loose,they wanted their 1824 paper that what 190 men at Alamo was fighting for Four acres of wall with 190 men and Mexican citizens, Little did Alamo people know the Texas Convention drew up there own Constitution the Republic of Texas.They all die and bodies burn same thing happen Goliaid 300 unarmed men gun down and burn on Easter Sunday Morning.The only folk lore I question a little there this church across from the Alamo were the red flag was rise inside is a box ,it was hidden in the floor of the church for 100 years in the 30s it was found.There was a note from Sequin that said here are the bones of Crockett,Travis, Bowie, how did he know DNA was not around,As for me I don't want to know. Let sleeping dogs lay, you wake him or her might get bitten in the ass. Don't try and change history let it lay folklore and all.
Dna has proven that every one who was brainwashed into thinking they were Mexican in Mexico showed the Beothuk First Nation enslaved . If everyone stopped calling everyone Mexican at the border ,their would be alot less Censorship and human trafficking and theft of Indigenous properties from Canada Mikmaq pulling it off through Trudeau and playing on the ignorance of Washington DC.
Canada They CAUSED the border crises on this issue through wirefraud
A matter of opinion. The after math of war does not give room for unconstitutional racist Censorship.
Whatever. I don’t know what school y’all went to but we were taught back in the 1960’s that Tejanos were part of Texas Independence. You people probably don’t know about the Battle of The Medina in 1813, the bloodiest battle on Texas soil fought just south of San Antonio.
Those same tejanos were treated as second class citizens after the rebellion
and so what is your point?
I found a history book called Texas The Lone Star State, by Rupert Norval Richardson, written in 1943, at an antique shop. I'm barely 1/4 through reading the book. It started with geography and the native Indians that lived here before the Spanish or Americans and I just finished reading about the Alamo. This book goes into great detail all those things that led up to the Texas revolution. This book, which acknowledges the slavery, points out many reasons for leaving Mexico, including but not limited to religious freedom, taxes, having to follow Mexican rules but not getting help and then a dictator getting elected as president. Also there was a split of Texans who didn't really want to leave Mexico but wanted the Mexican consituation back that the dictator took away. Lots of ins and outs, wasn't all about slavery.
Why did American foreigners get involved in internal politics if they did not like it go back home!
this book doesn't say that it was all about slavery
@@rubenj.garcia6828 anglos were invited into texas as settlers by the mexican govt.they did not force there way in.
@@joelmclamore1139 on the condition that they would abide by Mexican law
@@redpillamerican4361 - And become devout Roman Catholics?
This is a hit piece to bring down Texas. I find it hard to believe that these two guy are the only ones to get the truth when historians have been looking at this for over a century. They are giving their opinion without any facts to back it up.
Texas does a pretty good job of looking bad in the eyes of the world. Its economy is largely based on oil production and the petrochemical industry (plastics come from oil). Beef production is part of that too. Its educational standards always get low marks. It ranks as the state with the worst health care system. This is largely due to the high rate of residents of all ages lacking health insurance and limited access to certain types of health care. The uninsured rate, at 18.4%, is double the national figure and higher than that of any other state. Its failure to look after its citizens came to light last year when it failed to deliver essential power during the week of severe winter weather.
Just admit that you have an issue with any new revelation that disrupts the “white washed” indoctrination known as history and social studies classes that you received in 6 to 8th grades to give you a false perception of superiority....smh
So, you didn't read the book.
@@rr7firefly And that is why so many people move to Texas.
@@Epicawes No I have not. Do they reference their view points in the book? If so post some please.
Remember the Alamo!!!! Forget the 2 Clowns 🤡 that wrote this book …….
I'm sure the vast majority of alamo defenders had NO Slaves
The vast majority of soldiers in the Civil War fighting for the South did not own slaves. They still fought to maintain slavery. What is your point?
"Mississippi was the second state to secede from the United States on January 9, 1861 and one of the states to declare the formation of the Confederacy on February 8, 1861. The state's declaration of secession provides one of the clearest connections between secession and slavery.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."
That doesn't mean they didn't want any. Even if they never did own a slave, the mere fact that they were white and free, no matter how destitute they may have been, they were superior to slaves.
They knew they would get land after they stole it from Mexico thats why they fought, there was no honor bs
@@soundchaser56 You now consider Tejanos as white people who wanted slaves?
@@tinsote7176 I am not quite sure where you get that from my statement.
These LIARS want to SELL a BOOK, that is all, period…….
No our government are the liars
dont worry, in 100 years when tejas is hispanic again, history will be corrected!!
Finally the complete "true" story about the Alamo and not the fairy tale fantasy that Gregg Abbott and Patrick want to preserve.
People need heroes-not your “social justice” crap.
@@cdybft9050 it's not social justice crap,,,it's history. The fact that you are uncomfortable with it is crap!
@@cdybft9050 wow imagine putting those two cuckolds into the "HEROES" category. your life must be PATHETIC
Ha ha this is pretty common throughout the world. Of course history is recorded in better light to make people feel better and who gives a fuck! Texas is still an awesome place
I dont think so , that's a myth propagated by Texans. California , many northwestern states , Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia and many Appalachian states are awesome , not texas
@@mariocisneros911 so. Texans and Californians are spreading the “myth” that Texas is an awesome place?
@@infinightsky just travel. The world is huge , many of us should step out of our backyard and see how much more wonderful the world has to offer. Austria , Italy , France , Argentina, China and on and on .
@@mariocisneros911 ha ha thanks, I’ve lived in four countries and I’m an immigrant to the USA, but thanks for the tip
@@mariocisneros911
California sucks, but you should definitely travel to China and stay there dumbass.
You can't say what actually happened at the Alamo because you weren't there.
Yes but by that logic no all history is false
When you want accurate history go to survivors of that history and study their accounts! Then compare it to any evidence that remains. The Alamo was fought over land rights and a tyrannical government that went back on its word. Practically all accounts of the battle on the Mexican side say the defenders fought bravely. As for slavery, Mexico was anti slavery and granted land right on that basis, until those rights were taken away. Texas was a sovereign country, even having an embassy in England, for nine years before being annexed into the union. When you want to tear something apart for a particular agenda, first you write a book! Happens every time! Das Kapital, Mien Kampf
Your right.
Texas was not a sovereign country
@@jonathanwilkerson4592 Texas was a sovereign country for nine years! They even had an embassy in London that still stands!
Embassy still stands bro. So everything you just stated Kinda defeats your own argument lol
@@tyrannosaurus62 gees, the embassy building is still there, but it not in use! My god son, use your head! Stupid argument!
More woke revisionism.
More who cant handle the Truth.
Nonsense, pure and simple nonsense. The Alamo defenders were not the Confederacy, wrong War. The Alamo story was as mixed as the time in which they lived ,1836. I have a new title forget these three authors and dump them in the dustbin of History !
I'm Mexican, and my grandfather told me the Alamo story was false. He said whites were fighting to expand slavery. Said the history book was a fairytale. 🤔
Our children are so dumbed down when it comes to Texas history. We were taught lies!! Texas wants to keep its people ignorant of facts !
Very true. The white devils always trying to make themselves look good but in reality they are demonic
Your grandfather was wrong.
@@jdgoade1306 🥰
@@jdgoade1306 nah his grand father was right. years later those same people would fight the usa to keep slavery
What happened is a little over 200 defenders were besieged for 13 days and all died when 1000 or so Mexicans attacked. Nothing else matters at least to those on both sides that lost their lives.
You mean 200 terrorist who wanted slavery were stoped and the freed slaves were happy Mexico gave them freedom.
REMEMBER THE ALAMO
I wished that people would keep their socialism history to themselves.
I’m a Aussie and this video is not necessary.
Truth is in the eye of the beholder.
The only beholders were there.
Stories are just that, someone voicing an opinion of a person who probably wasn’t there.
REMEMBER THE ALAMO! Means more to Texans than we could ever comprehend.
All bullshit and theory’s aside… who ever was there at the end died fighting for there country and state.
I am B A SKYRM from Australia and happy to put my name to MY comments
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Silly. Facts sir , just the facts. Sgt Friday
As soon as 'slavery' was mentioned, they exposed their angle loud and clear. I suppose that this lie will follow many others into our children's curriculum. I hope the descendants of the fallen heroes from the Alamo sue these 'authors' for every dime.
One of the reasons for the revolt was the threat to slavery that the revolving door of Mexican govs posed. 25% of the pop was African slaves supporting cotton culture. But Texas historiography wrote over that part. Basic facts.
@@ld2812 How do you invade part of your own country?
@@ld2812 you are correct and well-informed. I just don't think if the national guard had to squash a rebellion in Oregon, it would be considered an invasion.
@@ld2812 The real heroes were Mexican freedom fighters in opposition to an oppressive centralized government. A struggle co-opted by Americans for yet another land grab.
Heros?! What a joke
Always Remember The Alamo.
Always.
Those who say Remember Goliad are real Texans..
Remember the cowards of the Alamo!!
Two guys who need their Texan cards revoked...
For being educated?
@@DanielA-pq8vv For figuratively cr&pping on the Alamo. Why don't they talk about Mexico using their indigenous peoples as slaves, if they're so "educated"?
Afraid of the truth? Keep believing in fairytales just like the make believe white story of the alamo.
@@rojo01ful LOL! I wouldn't talk about believing in fairy tales if I was you. The entire Liberal ethos is based upon wish-fulfillment fantasies. The incontrovertible fact remains that 180 untrained volunteers held off an invading professional army of several thousand for 13 days and killed a huge chunk of that army before dying heroically. This sacrifice enabled the success of the Texas Revolution. More than enough to be happy with right there, Comrade.
@@LibrarianBarbarian and don’t forget that they spent most of that 13 days begging to surrender. I think that is also worth mentioning.
He is actually right… Santa Ana wanted to speak and parley… if you have such a large army and your goal is to get rid of the defenders he could have done this on day one….yet he still gave them a chance…. Every attempt he made was met with violence… messengers under rules of war in those days had to be respected.
Projecting 21st century socio-political values onto a 19th century historical event is to journalistic integrity and historical accuracy as Kentucky Fried Chicken is to chicken.
These authors are letting their ideology drive their supposed "understanding" of what actually happened at the Alamo and why. I'm sure the "People's Republic of Austin" will welcome these inaccuracies and half-truths with open arms. In fairness, however, you cannot judge an entirely different era by the standards of today. Neither can you know for certain the claims you are making. Mexican sources for what went on at the Alamo, just because they are not Anglo sources, do not automatically make them more accurate. The men in the Alamo knew they were doomed early on, but most fought for their lives, for the lives of their fellow defenders, and for the life of Texas. Your claims--nearly all of them--are cherry-picked by writers who are obviously not only anti-Alamo defenders, but also likely anti-American as well. The kind of "educators" who get all warm and fuzzy with a copy of Howard Zinn's propaganda clutched in their soft, uncalloused, pampered hands. That doesn't impress me and it certainly doesn't take courage on your part. In fact, as the modern Leftists you obviously are, you could never possibly understand what it's like to stand shoulder to shoulder with your comrades-in-arms, knowing you will not likely make it home, but hoping that somehow, someday, your story will be told by a sympathetic historian who understands the complexities of battle in a most imperfect world. Obviously, this is not one of those kinds of books.
It was about keeping their slaves....period
Sad that so many are being brainwashed by the modern secular-progressive, Leftists who have infiltrated nearly every institution, school, and university in this country. While slavery was certainly an issue, for a variety of good and not-so-good reasons, you have undoubtedly been recruited by the "Social Justice Warriors" who are now threatening to destroy this country, the world's last great hope of preventing the universal, global conflagration rushing our way, both from without, and from within. But to your specific point, few of the men at the Alamo were slaveholders, and even fewer thought much about that issue (if you bother to read their letters from the time). No, they were Anglos and Hispanics, many intermarried into the local Hispanic population. They cared about their wives and children, and they cared about their individual and collective freedom. The dictator Antonio de Lopez de Santa Anna threatened that freedom and everything they cared deeply about. If you could take a poll of the 185 Alamo defenders, only a small percentage would have listed slavery as an issue. The truth is there, but you have to make the effort to dig for it, especially when our honored past is now piled high with lies and half-truths by the Leftists who have seized academia and our schools. Don't be fooled. Your life is too important to spend it "living by lies" (in the words of Alexander Solzhenitsyn).
you would austin.
Woke Authors
Traitors to our country
You cant handle the Truth.
Just what we need, another book about what really happened at the Alamo, good grief
Revisionist bs.
Leave the Alamo alone. Leave Texas alone. Hell leave Texas period. Take the others who want to erase history with you to Portland or somewhere besides this great state.
hell by 2100 there will be no alamo or white people in texas!!LOL
@@rodrigjose I'll be dead by then. Maybe because I fought defending our monuments and history.
@@derekkrause9251 we will be dead, I also fought in vienam with the corps and in operation enduring freedom in the sand.
Thank you for your service.
@@derekkrause9251 you mean the traitors from the traitor army? F$%k texas. Remember the Tejanos!!
Do not buy this poorly researched book, the authors did not do their basics on research. Many holes appear in the book, one being their lack of knowledge of Santa Ann, let alone Davy.
I knew this already. Went to San Antonio and learned about the Mexican/Spanish settlers and then to the Tx State Museum in Austin and basically nothing was spoken about that history...like the Mexican Spanish did not exist. Thanks for the new book with additional insight.
@Kid chris That's great to hear it has been updated as it has been awhile since I visited. You're a sweetheart.
That's funny as a Texan this stuff was taught in elementary school.
Lol.. Must not be a real Texan, because they skipped over quite a bit when I was in school, here in Texas.. And btw, we learn about this stuff in 7th grade Texas history class, not elementary school..
@@jacobjones5269 just means we were indoctrinated with false facts since we were young
Austin is a really racist city . Like many in the deep south
Just downloaded the book to my Kindle. It'll be interesting to see who and what their sources are for their revisions. I don't have a problem with what they said in the video. If many of the Alamo defenders did try to light out of there right at the end, I wouldn't blame them. In fact it makes sense. If you'd been fighting for two weeks against vast numbers and your defenses had been finally and fatally breached, anyone with a head on his shoulders would be doing the smart thing in trying to vamoose. They knew the Mexicans weren't taking prisoners, so why throw your life away when the battle had already been lost? More sensible to try and get away to fight another day.
Regardless of their take on the Alamo and what they claim to have been the defenders' motivations, one thing is certain: When a handful of men take on much better armed, overwhelming forces, they must have cajones as big as cannon balls. That's undeniable.
This is insane. They gave their lives for Texas. Be glad they fought, otherwise you’d wouldn’t be enjoying the freedoms Texas has today. So show some respect.
You’re full of it. Mexico banned slavery and the Texans were pissed about it.
@@thelton100 slavery was an evil of the time. Our forefathers and presidents had slaves, are you going to rewrite the American revolution to?. The POS Mexican President Santa Anna tore up the Mexican Constitution of 1824, declaring himself dictator… that’s why the Texans fought for their Independence… from a tyrannical would be monarch.
@@brandon7482 You're full of crap the war was fought over slavery.
@@brandon7482 I wouldn't say rewrite but complete the history that's reflected in the primary source documentation from that period much of which was written by the founding fathers themselves, so it wouldn't be rewriting history it would be adding what was left out of history. The issue about revisiting this history isn't about slavery being evil, it's about telling the whole story and not just the part that serves to support an Ahistorical narrative. Texas, like many other states wanted to keep slavery going, something that Santa Anna was opposed to. Many Texan slave owners left the country and set up their human trafficking businesses in Cuba and other offshore places. In fact Texan, human traffickers, were still importing and trading humans up until around 1836. 1865 there were only 2 free Africans in texas the rest were still enslaved. If this doesn't say I wanna keep my slaves I don't know what does
@@thelton100 So five to seven were killed outside the Alamo 😂 big change of facts five to seven out of 183 🤡s also to tell the apparent whole story how about they tell the true story of Mexicans allowing citizenship to white immigrants but not thinking black immigrants deserved the same benefit 😂
Or the true story of how native Americans used and benefited from keeping slaves. 🤪 these liberalists are the reason the worlds gone to shit with twisting of their politicalised “truths”.
I have something to tell you, but I’m not supposed to say that on this, so you have your opinion and you know where to put it
It wasn't fought over slavery. Very few defenders has slaves, Bowie and Travis.
These two clowns seem to be reading that pseudo history called THE1619 PROJECT
@@craigmignone2863 right
There's 0 evidence Bowie had a slave at the Alamo, that's BS from the movies, he was sick and was cared for by Juana Navarro Alsbury, who was related by marriage, and her sister Gertrudis.
Yeah glacier power company donated like $9 million to rewrite history for the Alamo
what are you talking about?
Your in the clouds. Stop listening to stories told down from 1 viewpoint. That doesnt tell the truth or take in other people's experiences
@@mariocisneros911 So five to seven were killed outside the Alamo 😂 big change of facts five to seven out of 183 🤡s also to tell the apparent whole story how about they tell the true story of Mexicans allowing citizenship to white immigrants but not thinking black immigrants deserved the same benefit 😂
Or the true story of how native Americans used and benefited from keeping slaves. 🤪 these liberalists are the reason the worlds gone to shit with twisting of their politicalised “truths”.
mexico respected black people so much that they only recognize blacks as citizens in 2016, 2016!!
are you kidding me, only 2% of all slaves came to north america. the majority of slaves went to south america because they were building the panama canal and they needed people to work the tobacco farms. how's about y'all get educated.
when the alamo happened and the battle of san jacinto, texas was not part of the united states so none of this is any of the USA's business. texas was a republic for about 10 years before texas became part of the united states in 1845. this is bull all the way through. just to re-write history and sell their book.
Fight for stolen land 😂 not independence 😂
What is the actual history?
Mexicans fought to end slavery
omg, why did they have to make it all about slavery? Also, Houston did not sendGo enforcement as he did not have any at the time. The enforcement was killed at Gonzales
Why don’t they release the book in any other states?
It's on Amazon
Because they are from Texas
@@Afrometa too funny!!!!!
IDK something seems fishy about this book. maybe they wrote it because they have an agenda
Wokeness has now reached a new low.
They didn’t even mention the pedos at the Alamo. It’s a disgusting place.
Please explain about pedos at the Alamo
What are you talking about?
@@joelmclamore1139 there is nothing I can say in a RUclips comment section to help you. You’ll have to study and learn, the way I did. Good Luck!
Let me guess: Chris Hansen even had an ancestor there, right? Had some cookies and lemonade set out?
The truth is that y'all don't know what actually happened at the Alamo. Take your racism and go away.
This is leftist BS. Mexico abolished slavery because it had peonage and labor there was dirt cheap. Indentured servitude was legal under Mex law. Travis listened to the terms of unconditional surrender ("Surrender at discretion") and flat rejected the terms. He was right to do so. If the Mexicans offered "the honors of war," allowing the Texans to leave with their arms, he would have considered it. Travis's letters specified that only three Tejanos remained with him in the Alamo, all the others had betrayed the Texans and their land should be confiscated after the war. Most of the 200 Texans died in the fort. About sixty tried to fight there way out because the Mexes stormed the fort with about 1200 troops: 5 or 6 to one odds.
Always remember The Alamo!
The new alamo!
We will
Bs ass poison
"...and they were hunted down by Mexican calvary..." Calvary? Did I hear that correctly? Not "cavalry?" Just a curious Texan who pays attention to details - especially when it is the importance of actually getting details right that is on the table for discussion.
Woke trying to rewrite history.
REMEMBER THE ALAMO 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
What an absolute crock of crap!
anglo were using indigenous slaves not just africans; they were using us Beothuk First Nation osaana people as slaves with the africans
Yup plus Africans and First Nation people fought slavery together
So five to seven were killed outside the Alamo 😂 big change of facts five to seven out of 183 🤡s also to tell the apparent whole story how about they tell the true story of Mexicans allowing citizenship to white immigrants but not thinking black immigrants deserved the same benefit 😂
Or the true story of how native Americans used and benefited from keeping slaves. 🤪 these liberalists are the reason the worlds gone to shit with twisting of their politicalised “truths”.
What on earth were the Beothuk doing in Texas? The Beothuk lived in Newfoundland. What are you crazily talking about?
Degrading defaming me is now reported to RUclips.
Yes Beothuk are between 25-30,000 years old and many in Texas and Mexico are slave descendent survivors and approx 50 are official DNA tested and signed on members of the Provincial NewFoundland (FNBFN) First Nation Beothuk First Nation and are members of ( AIM) American Indian Movement.
Also Beothuk were excellent boat people and traveled between Winter and summer homes.
Most of the materials written online were written by Mikmaq and Invaders who thought as long as they could declare Beothuk to be extinct then they can steal Beothuk sustainable development Resources which they are currently attempted to do again since it is now proven the FNBFN are alive and filed Provincial and International.
You got to be kidding if you actually believe the only place a 30,000 years old Indigenous Beothuk population had no skill to travel . Their Artifacts were found in Maine and their graves for which in year 2015 the Wabanaki stole the remains to lie to Washington and obama was ignorant/ uneducated to the Wabanaki scam and paid wabanaki $98 million in year 2015; the beothuk of FNBFN had already come forth to prove they are the descendents.
You have painted a picture for yourself that Indigenous people were ignorant and had no intelligence to build cities or travel by boats . Beothuk were one of the greatest boat builders and look at the Atlantic waters they were able to maneuver through . Many European ship traverlers took Beothuk around the world .
Some are found in the Louisiana & Texas slave rolls too.
Beothuk were the first Documented slaves and then later included being Trafficked with Africans in the transatlantic slave trade. Included are descendents in the FNBFN were found in Brazil, Chili. Also USA state wide .
I am a expert on the research .
Indians kept slaves, too. Slavery wasn't exclusive to the white man.
Some Texans kept learning history after 7th grade. Much of the history is not news to us
Especially eye opening are the very recent developments. Especially the antics of Dan Patrick...
Woke History???
Exactly. A Woke Joke.
There were Mexicans who defended the Alamo and fought alongside the Texans as well against Santa Ana's dictatorship. I doubt very much their willingness to die was to own slaves. The Constitution of 1824 was silent on the issue of slavery, although it is true some Texans wanted to retain their rights to own slaves. But I doubt very much slavery was their main motive to fight. And these revisionists make it sound like most of the defenders lost their nerve at the end, running for their lives. BS. Most of the hard fighting took place in the long barracks. Were there a few killed by the Mexican cavalry? Sure. Santa Ana also massacred 300 Texan POW's at Goliad. Santa Ana would pay dearly at San Jacinto for his arrogance.
This was an event of the third attempt at the Tejanos trying for independence. The only slavery in question was the brothers that Bowies father sent down with him, (Set free when Bowie met Maria Veramendi due to, they frowned on slavery. Those brothers, after the battle of Bexar, went on to own land and later own slaves themselves.) Jethro would not leave Bowie, keeping the promise he made to Bowie's father. But NO, at that time the US had not thought of taking Texas for themselves, till a pig and a Frenchman crossed paths, but that is a tale for another day.
There's 0 evidence Bowie had a slave at the Alamo, that's stuff from the movies.
you watch entirely too many movies.
What actually happened? You won't know for sure until you build a time machine.
🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 tell whatever story you want. History is written by the victors.
A half truth is a lie. The Revolution took place because both the Anglos and the Tejanos opposed Sabnta Anna. The Anglos were there because Mexico could not protect the Tejanos from the Comanches, As for slavery, that was incidental to the more important desire of a large faction of the Anglios to become part of the USA. They opposed the ban on slavery, of course, but probably they felt more strongly about the requirement to become a Catholic, Anti-Catholicism was as much a part of their identity as racism.
Whatever the case, the authors of this book have clearly stepped on some Texas toes with their prose if I take the nature of most of the amusing comments into consideration. Knowing what I do of Texas, its political landscape, and mindset of the average Texas citizen, I'd be strongly inclined to believe what's been written in the book and use that information as a basis for further serious research on the history of the Alamo.
Well, it is said that the first casualty of war, Is the Truth.
I had heard another version that Santa Anna army was less than Col. Travis reported , in order to get help from the U S
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Thank you for the truth 🙏
New Book, forget the left
If only Buck obeyed Houston's orders
Houston didn't order the Alamo blown up, it was a suggestion to Governor Smith.
@@jdgoade1306 well buck still
Shoulda left and took the cannons with him.
@@larry1824 Maybe so, and Houston didn't believe there was actually any Mexican troops in San Antonio until about March 11th, and Travis would have had trouble taking the cannons, when the Matamoros expedition came through they took most of the riding and draft stock with them.
Total Hogwash
Excellen book
It is good to know the truth, but not necessarily to shout about it! People need their myths! At least a third of the world would be different if it wasn't for the Greek Myths!
Trying to make Texans forget about the Alamo is like telling Muslims to stop going to medina and mecca, it doesn't end well
Not to forget dodo, but to finally tell the truth of those cowards
@@rodolfoguajardo2065 Cowards? Mexico has been Texas and US's whipping boy since it's existence.
@@rodolfoguajardo2065 the comment sections full of anti white hatred,are you part of it?
The truth does hurt sometimes.
This is a crock
I have a statement, are attitude in those days we were conquers, as were the French, The Spainish, etc how come we are made to fell guilty of this?
When I was in school in Australia 🇦🇺 ,I read a book. The World's greatest seiges, back in the 1970s .The Alamo was a chapter.2 things tie into modern assessments. 1: Mrs Dickinson stated that when brought out she saw ," the unmistakable body of Davy Crockett, crumpled & mangled ,directly outside the famous chapel & that his unmistakable hat lay close by, & surrounded by bodies of the enemy, 3,4,5,? & then 2 ,& importantly, the report of the medical team of the Mexican Army stated an onomily ,: All those sent against the palisade were down , most of the dead received a bullet to the head,the wounded, most high shoulder ! Always puzzled me ,until recent times, Crockett & his men fought thier way out.Final 6 were rounded up by the patrolling Calvary, & offered safe passage. Accepted they walked back to face Santa Anna. He ordered execution. With safe passage & a discharged single shot rifle you were allowed to carry it back with you.The battle weary troops were slow to react.So Santa Anna's personal escorts dismounted & drew there sabres. Davy @ least picked up old Betsy & went down swinging. Mexicans were shy @ first to say much ,for heavans sake ,if we say that the folk hero was executed !!!! But truth will always finally come out : They said that he went down swinging his rifle, but just left out the little bit that it was due to an execution order !!! Similar history. I saw an old lady talk of how she saw titanic split in 2 before in went down, (as a child), always told : impossible, When finally found ,1st thing : it's split in 2.With history always Focus on those who were there !,which concludes me with Mrs Dickinson, (forget about how things went for her afterwards), " I saw Davy 👀 Crockett, unmistakable.
Don't forget the numbers of the Mexican army and the numbers of the dead. The numbers do not add up. Not at all. Santa Ana could not have had 1800 troops loose 1600 send 500 to Goliad and chase Houston threw the runaway scrap. With what? Was Houston and his army running from one man?
After March 3rd there were a total of 2400 soldiers in San Antonio, the final assault was 1500 infantry, number of dead unclear, wounded 400 , 75 of which died, General Urrea was at Goliad with a different contingent of the Mexican army, 1500- 1700 men, these 2 guys are full of opinions gleaned from other sources and that's not all they're full of.
Are they high
Bowie, Travis & Crocket all owned slaves at one point. Santa Anna was a monster but he was opposed to Texas having slaves. History is filled with uncomfortable contradictions.
If not for Santa Anna there'd have been no Revolution.
They're so young to have been there just another 2 clowns making a buck ..
OK a lot of things happened in Texas since 1836. What I don't understand is how the defenders were fighting with the goal of defending the institution of slavery because the narrators in the video made the statement.but failed to back it up with any explanation.. So was that one of the issues between the Mexican government and the settlers that caused the revolution? More importantly was it the only issue and were the defenders knowingly representing primarilly the interests of monied planters ?
From the history of Comanche raids on the settlers I'm not reading of any slaves among the victims of those. So I'm not sure how much of an issue the institution was at that early date and whether or not it was an issue of difference between the Mexican government at all since there was no mention of such in the video. Simply a statement of motive concerning the defenders.
No doubt that Planters moved into East Texas quickly after the revolution. They actually passed a law after the revolution against the entry of immigrants wearing leather leggings rather than shoes or boots, in order to keep the riff raff out of Texas. Well you can see how well that worked . . . just kidding. I'm from the Panhandle which didn't get settled until after the institution had ended . . . formally speaking..
O my god remember the Alamo
A Mexican military victory. Remember
The facts change nothing. The result is the same and, as John Wayne said of the defenders, which included Mexicans loyal to the Constitution of 1824, " . . . nobody wanted to die and nobody wanted to be a hero.. . ." The result of the conflict, whether fighting for their lives at the end either inside the fort or outside, is that the defenders became heroes.....
St. Anthony 🙏
Fiction is created daily
Just dont tell lies