When it was Rhodesia the UN had a permanent office in Salisbury to buy the massive food surplus the farmers produced and redistribute it around sub Saharan Africa to alleviate famines in other countries. Now it is Zimbabwe it is the largest recipient of foreign aid in the world. What a tragic loss.
& you think we forgot how EU & US imposed sanctions to ensure the country collapsed so you can start making such claims. YTs have been the cancer to the world for far to long
@@antonhuman8446 And you also bet that there's no medication for your own stupidity plus your demagogry and bigotry. You people are such natural-born assholes. It leaves in your genes.
If cash crops and other agro products , for exports, were the reason for it being a “bread basket”, i wonder why the villages and settlements outside the city were flush with food and money 😂. Keep convincing yourself it was a bread basket. More like a slave plantation.
Until they stole your productive and exporting farms. It honestly makes me sad for what you honorable people went through while the Snivilized world, who has never worked a day on a farm or earned their keep went hungry. I wish you the best and know thats not much
Productive farms also existed in South Africa (the wealthiest and most powerful country on the continent) and in Angola and Mozambique when they were ruled by Portugal.
@@glendodds3824 I have traveled a lot and history fascinates me. Africa is one such issue and I am lucky to have some friends there. There is a great YT channel or two that train on such issues with out the typical BS. Portugal too on my bucket list. Have a good day Mr Glenn.
What an absolute disaster Zimbabwe is! The simple truth is that because something is bad, does NOT mean that its replacement will be better. Sometimes the replacement is far, FAR worse.
Was it even bad though? Rhodesia was civilised, just, clean, productive, it had a bright future. I really don't care it was racist, black africans have been given countless countries and every single one is a shithole, good on the Rhodesians for having standards.
The new president is doing much better than Mugabe though, let's just see how much progress can be made. The generation that is in charge, is the same generation that was fighting in the wars. And these people are really tired of fighting. Nevertheless, damage was really caused by Mugabes government. But this government seems to be taking another way. Time will tell.
And thanks to communism, China is now the largest economy in the world by purchasing power parity. And thanks to capitalism, the gulf between the rich and the poor in the west is getting bigger and bigger. Just look at the inner cities of US and UK cities. Rundown with homeless and poor people, and rife with crime.
1975 " Rhodesia is such a terrible country - all the food fuel and we have air conditioning " today " 10 trillion in Zimbabwe cash is worth 14 cents in USD there's no food fuel or medicine but this is fine "
So you’re saying that people of color are almost like children that white people are responsible for ruling? That we should have a civilizing mission where we erase cultures and replace them with our own by force?
And your own idea of civilization is killing oppressing and subjugating people of another race in their own homeland while you cry the hardest that people of this same race should leave your own country. Right ??? You people are simply natural-born hypocrites, always shifting the goal-post as it suits you. You people are so full f crap. Do they teach all of these crap from infancy ? Cos I still believe that every child was born without any bigotry.
Yes not civilised if you were black . I am white but if I was black and saw what was going on here in the video. I would join Mugabwe Zim May be screwed but Africans needed to have a go to find out.
@@erikwirfs-brock2432they only built railroads, mines, farms, schools and hospitals. I was in Zimbabwe twice this year. Once on the way to Malawi and went to Gonarazou for a week recently. We all laughed when we realized that all the schools and hospitals that there are were built by the whites. Even the border posts. All old Rhodesian buildings. The new gov has done nothing but neglect what was left for them.
@@benpearson49 You are right. Correctly formulated: It is a more or less unknown fact that along with the many whites, some blacks also left Rhodesia for South Africa because they did not want to live in a country called Zimbabwe.
Rhodesia had a system of segreggation that was a bit similar to apatheid in Southafrica. Yes towns and cities were highly developed but that was for white people and a few natives handpicked to work for them. The rest were forcefully confined to rural areas on poor soils, with none of those city developments., this was done to live them with no choice but to work as farm labourers on white owned farms earning peanuts. There were white only schools, white only residential areas and even hospitals. Very few black pple had access to high sch education because of poverty plus there were very few schools for natives. I dont think those that lived under Rhodesia in rural areas (80% of the black population) wld prefer the life they had back then. You had to apply to visit a relative in the urban areas. I say both Rhodesia and current Zimbabwe were just as bad as each other for the rural poor
@@HealthonDemandTG *The rest were forcefully confined to rural areas on poor soils, with none of those city developments., this was done to live them with no choice but to work as farm labourers on white owned farms earning peanuts. There were white only schools, white only residential areas and even hospitals. Very few black pple had access to high sch education because of poverty plus there were very few schools for natives.* Lets be honest. The real reason why African areas remained poor and impoverished was because they kept waiting for someone else to fix their problems rather than taking the initiative and working together to fix their own problems. If you're poor you can choose to do nothing about it and just sit there and complain and get angry about how poor you are. Or you can get up and try and go out and organize with your community and try and lift yourselves out of that poverty. Sadly all too often African people choose the latter option rather than the former and even when they're given everything on a silver platter and all they have to do is maintain what they've been given, they can't even do that and far too often they choose to plunder and destroy what they have and they have to start from scratch again. And this notion that all Africans needed was opportunity to get ahead is mostly a lie. All you have to do is look at African people living in western nations where they're given EVERY OPPORTUNITY to build themselves a better life just like everyone else and guess what? They usually squander it anyways by turning to violence and crime rather than grabbing hold of that opportunity and running with it.
And how did the transition work out for the majority of the blacks in the end ! 😂😂. What a sad state of affairs ! Mr Smith did more for his people of all colours than Mugabe ever did in the past 40 years ! The current government is no better than Mugabe was !
Are you stupid or something? Would YOU live as a peasant in your own country even if life as a free person was worse?? If you would then you're pathetic. What extra stupid is that black life was *terrible*. Its not like they were revolting because they had amazing lives, you imbecile.
Nope, its not too late, just late as it can be corrected, we are in the last hour;). Talking about schooling, do your homework before making silly comments.
Of course not white people should’ve never been there in the first place. Everywhere they go they think they’re superior. None of this would have happened if those Europeans would’ve stayed home in Europe blacks would’ve have been just fine just like before the white man showed up
They are bringing people from thirld world to replace locals. Local communist-corrupt politicians that work with china, russia, north korea, iran and etc. are enforcing migration policies locally. Due to these policies major western powers like france england, germany are descending into chaos and are already looking like a shitholes. In a simplier language, bring third world= becone a third world.
Salisbury was founded in 1890 and was the oldest city in Rhodesia and had the largest white population, around 97,000 strong at the time of the 1969 census and larger by the time of this documentary. Most of the whites were either of British descent or had been born in the UK. The second largest group were Portuguese. In Rhodesia as a whole, however, Afrikaners (people mostly of mixed Dutch, German and French descent) formed the second largest section of the white community. Furthermore, the journalist is wrong to say that Joshua Nkomo was moderate and that Abel Muzorewa was militant. It was the other way round. Finally, impressive cities also existed in the Portuguese territories of Angola and Mozambique and of course in South Africa whose largest city, Johannesburg, was the most awe-inspiring city on the continent and is the city pictured at the very start of this video.
Muzorewa wasn't moderate. There were many involved, the ones you mentioned and Sithole as well. Is was a basket of bad apples, and Nkomo was viewed more favourably than the others by most in the West. Mugabe was a communist and an extremist, and he was not favoured, but it didn't matter because he managed to grab power and there was nothing the west could do at that point in time, after beating the equality, freedom and right of choice drums for nearly two decades. They just left it to become the junkyard it is today, with its own leadership and direction.
@@qcsorter4626 Not only is no justification needed where it needed it absolutely does. If a people cannot rule themselves they should be ruled until they are able to do so. Zimbabwe and SA are both examples of the disaster that doing otherwise has.
Yeah, you might no longer be indentured and oppressed but now instead of European countries trying to extract resources from your country they are just trying to sow dysfunction
@@YonasMulugeta-y1zThen enjoy your "freedom" (protip: being murdered for not supporting ZANU-PF is not freedom) and stop putting your hand out to other countries to feed you.
It's a shame actually, that Orwell was long gone and didn't see the old colonial countries "transition"...I am certain he would have predicted a few things accurately....such wasted potential all across Africa...
Orwell described British colonial rule as "despotism-benevolent, no doubt, but still a despotism with theft as its final object," and the British colonists as "dull, decent people, cherishing and fortifying their dullness behind a quarter of a million bayonets."
Portugal’s withdrawal from Mozambique in the mid -1970s was a bitter blow for Rhodesia and for the many Portuguese who lived in Mozambique. Portugal had fought a war against FRELIMO (communist-backed African nationalists) since 1964 and had received some military support from Rhodesia and South Africa. However, in 1974 there was a military coup in Portugal and left-wing army officers seized power and decided to stop fighting in Mozambique and Portugal’s other African territories, Angola and Portuguese Guinea. Mozambique was granted independence in June 1975 and by this time a large-scale exodus of whites was underway-as was also true in Angola-and over a year or so about 90 per cent of whites left Mozambique. Mozambique’s white population had peaked at around 190,000 in 1973. It was thus smaller than Rhodesia’s white community, which was over 250,000 strong by 1971, and was also smaller than the white population of Angola which was estimated at around 324,000 in 1973. Incidentally, Mozambique had been a very popular holiday destination for Rhodesians and South Africans.
You thought a continent like Africa where the majority is indigenous black is accepting your white centric ideas? You and your racist peers in the comments are the reason why all African countries got their independence. You want to live something that others fought to not have to live anymore.
The figures for the estimated white populations of Angola and Mozambique in 1973 are by Claudia Castelo, and appear in an article she wrote published in Ler Historia, volume 56, 2009. The white populations of both countries had grown rapidly in recent decades. For example, according to Castelo (and other scholars) between 1960 and 1970 Mozambique's white population rose from 97,245 to 162,967, and Angola's climbed from 172,529 in 1960 to 280,101 in 1970. Professor Malyn Newitt (in A Short History of Mozambique) says that the census of 1970 showed that there were 164,000 whites in Mozambique (perhaps he meant 163,000) and that half of the whites lived in the capital, Lourenco Marques. Finally, in a letter written in 1971 (and now available on the website, The Delagoa Bay World), Antonio Rita-Ferreira, an academic who lived in LM, says that the census of 1970 showed that the city's white population was 79,000, which is roughly in line with the statement of Newitt.
@@kc4276 That place has turned into the cesspit since its colonials high-tailed, and they also have a *caste* system there, and for a very deliberate and explicit reason -- _i. e.,_ they understand that there a different demographics which should be demarcated for the betterment of the all concerned. Other countries, like l ꞩ ꭇ ꭤ ꬲ I, have that system too (albeit, tacit and denied), as does China. So, it seems that it's only considered bad if "the ꓪ ꜧ וֹ t ꬲ man does it"... The same demographic, incidentally, whose policies led to every technological comfort and innovation you now take for granted (including the Internet you are communicated through).
The streets of Salisbury looked clean and beautiful with people of all races living together. Now it's a one race city, black, and suffering an epidemic of corruption and ineptitude . The situation is replicated elsewhere as in Nairobi Kenya.
Black population was carefully controlled in those urban areas. Only the few with work permits and jobs were allowed in urban areas, the rest over 80% of the black population was forcefully confined to rural areas, thats why the streets were always clean......You needed to "apply" and get a pass to visit a relative in the urban areas. They also didnt live together, black people were not allowed in white residential areas, they had their own residential areas which were often overcrowded. After independence all the young men that were locked up in rural areas flooded the cities in search of jobs. Not trying to justify the currect state, ofcause gvt should channel a lot more resources towards acommodating the larger population, but Im saying the methods Rhodesia used in controlling populations in urban areas were wrong too.
@@HealthonDemandTG You make good points and I do agree with you. However I wasn't passing judgement on the Africans' ability to govern urban settlements, since I do appreciate that the concept of metropolitanism is absolutely alien to the culture of Africans' and was a byproduct of colonial occupation. The African never really identified with the concept of towns and cities and it would be expecting too much that the decolonized African would immediately go about governing and managing something he never conceptualised or built. So much as a squirrel would be expected to adopt and manage a beautiful nest built by a departed bird, so to speak.
My sister had a senior position in Kenya, a Britt Aid worker came out and disagreed with everything so she reorganised how everything was done, mainly feeding.. Result, child mortality went thru the roof as the fathers sold their food for booze, letting their own kids starve.. Welcome to African mentality
@hydromic2518 the exact opposite of African mentality eg do an honest days productive work, feed your children before yourself,, don't blame others for your self made problems etc etc. I lived 7 years in Africa
I wish they'd interviewed a black recruit to the Rhodesian army. It would have been interesting to see why he volunteered. The villages remind one of the early Israeli settlements where a farmer had a plough in one hand and a rifle in the other.
I worked with an American guy at the US bank I worked in. His father worked in the UK and so he went to a private school. When he graduated several of his mates went to Rhodesia to defend the regime, so he joined up too. I fought the rebels for several years before coming back to the U.S.. He was good for a lot of stories about this. Like many who fought there he sort of knew the Africans had to eventually take over but was very bad with how the country fell apart after that.
Right about what? Being defeated by the very people he assumed were less than human. Whites lost and what we do with our ancestral land has nothing to do with any of you. Worry about Caucasian land.
also disease and slavery, but in return got electricity and modern medicine,just as it was like in Roman ruled Europe.the Romans did enslave people but also they gave them civilisation. Although people tend to thinlk that only black people were enslaved throughout history.
Yeah, let’s forget that Europe needed millions in the American aid to rebuild after WW2 and likely wouldn’t be anywhere near what it is today without it
@@hydromic2518 America bombed the crap out of European cities and after signing a deal that would let the communists take control of half the continent they were suddenly scared that the communists might take the other half.
Removal of sanctions imposed sourly to ensure black rule fail is what caused the collapse in the first place, like the west tried to do to Russia & Japan
Merit is great if you know what to do. The educated whites just abandoned the country, leaving mostly illiterate people behind. Corrupt politicians and military officers took the rest. It’s not difficult to understand.
At this time, in 1976, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) was at the same wealth level as South Korea. Imagine that. It was still a poor country, but I do wonder what was the difference between white and black wealth level. To think that country's GDP today is only 50% higher than in 1980... and taking into account inflation, actually it is way worse. Even countries like Turkey grew like 8x since then...
@@lawsonhellu4718no Koreans started making ships, cars then electronics, K-pop and K-dramas... Redistribution of someone else's wealth has never led to prosperity
As the end neared, Rhodesia was flooded with illegal immigrants from all around Africa which only accelerated the implosion, sort of like what’s happening in my country today.
Rhodesia was never going to stay minority rule forever, it was inevitable and clear to the government that transition to joint governance was necessary to prevent social unrest. The issue was of timing. The country was not at all ready for majority rule when the UK wanted it to transition, so they had to declare UDI to prevent a political disaster and in doing so only walked into another one as no country had the stomach to openly support a racially divided country in the era of decolonialization. Immediately the country is then dragged into a decade long civil war against communist guerillas while the world ironically espouses democracy. Had the UN, UK, and USA not been as harsh and uncompromising, it's very possible that the country could have successfully transitioned to full legal and political equality while under a sort of probationary international period. It's also likely that as with South Africa that change may not have happened until the 1990's if not taken seriously. Another problem though was that of the pro-majority political parties which in Zimbabwe turned out to be just as tribal, bloodthirsty, and inept as predicted. The same happened in South Africa with the career ANC leadership completely unprepared for governance and out of touch with reality, leading to decades of corruption and decline. Had an internationally supervised probationary period occurred, and the communists not promoted by the UK, then it's possible that a generation of well educated and trained native Africans could have been prepared for governance and transitioned the country into the 21st century as a world class economy. This might be a fantasy idea, but I like to believe that a better outcome could have been brought about that wouldn't have resulted in the destitution of Zimbabwe and the flight of thousands of its citizens.
@@damirblazevic4823 The UK kept allowing Mugabe to be in talks and then after he ruled the country continued to espouse how good he was even though he literally ordered a genocide against a rival tribe.
@@damirblazevic4823 Next to South Africa, Rhodesia was one of the most advanced and well run countries on the African continent. They were a manufacturing powerhouse and so critical for mining that the US literally had to pass legislation to work around their own sanctions in order to get Rhodesian chromium.
@@xc8487 That might be true. Just might. But it doesn't make it a world class economy. And, by the way, being a mining export country doesn't mean it was a "manufacturing powerhouse". What product manufactured (not mined, not harvested, but manufactured) in Rhodesia was sold globaly? A car? A ship? A machine? A household appliance? What Rhodesian banking or other financial services company was a serious global player? That's what makes a "world class economy". Chromium mining is nice, but it's a mono-culture economy. Far cry from "world class" category
@@damirblazevic4823 What other African country at the time was even close beside South Africa? Maybe not world class if you're comparing it to the US or Asia, but compared to other African countries it was.
Ha! They are reporting in this video actually complaining that the bungalows where the people earn less are not as good. Where in the world is that not the case?! 😂 Also, some years ago i saw some of those same bungalows ... The drains on the sides of the once tarred/paved roads don't even exist anymore, sewage runs in the streets and the roads have never been maintained and hardly exist. Also the houses are crumbling. Literally ZERO maintenance of public service infrastructure as all the money for maintenance goes into politicians' pockets. I beg anyone in Zim to go to these exact same streets and buildings and post a linked video along side this one in 2024. Please do, somebody, anybody!!!
Why do you care? You seem hurt that your little bubble was burst now you think lashing out online will make your nearly finished life any less miserable. It won't😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@KorpusV6 My life is perfectly vibrant, thank you. What I find slightly irritating is lies, whether by inference, omission or otherwise. Oh... And not giving credit where it's justifiably due is also fairly annoying.
Any respectable man would humbly crumble under his own weight- rather than slave his life away for the benefit of a man who bares not an ounce of importance to himself.
You gonna act like US & EU didn't impose the worst sanctions in the world to ensure indigenous rule fails. Colonialist always try to gaslight people no wander your population is fast dwindling
@@Truthseeker580 these sanctions no longer exist though quite tye opposite now these nations are being supported and still no prosperity, look at israel went through the holocaust were invaded so many tunes and are still able to thrive, 5hats what happens when you have no corruption and everyone works together with intelligence. This is why African nations are not able to thrive
botswana had, but to be fair, they never expelled white people from botswana, many of them brought a lot of value to the country back when it had to be built up. white people still live in botswana, they dont face institutionalised discrimination there(unlike in south africa, lets say) and even represent botswana in olympics. sometimes i wonder, what could africa look like if leaders were any good there, the whole continent has so much potential, but still most african countries suffer from a lot of problems
The question is, what should have been done differently? It's hard to accept the idea that the whites should have just fought harder to maintain power because that seems like it was always a lost cause. So, what should have been done differently?
@@lucianaromulus1408 Na people like us that state the obvious are, crazy, conspiracy theorists, cooked, mentally ill, tin foil hat stans, unvaxxed idiots etc Until said thing happens what you told them was going to and then.......silence. They'll forget you even said anything.
Its the same in south africa Its a mess now but nobody speaks about it. South africa (no oil but coal and some minerals) under white rule used to be the most advanced country in africa. Look a the disaster in equatorial guinea, a country rich in petroleum. The rhodesian army was very efficient notwithstanding the embargo and its small size and limited means (altough south africa lended some material ). Ian smith looked also like a gentleman altough minorty rule is difficult to enforce (even on south africa) some rhodesians i met regret to have been drafted, i can understand. Zim dollar was such a success that they had to switch to dollars and euros
Yes. South Africa was the richest and most powerful country in Africa at the time. Furthermore, in addition to providing Rhodesia with military equipment, South African soldiers, para-military police and airmen served in Rhodesia, as is highlighted for example in some of the interviews on Fighting Men of Rhodesia, a RUclips channel.
It is very easy to be rich or look rich when you don't have to provide education, health, housing and infrastructure to 80% of the population. Did the blacks live in those fancy houses and drive fancy cars, were the blacks even allowed to own land or move to certain areas. How did the blacks live at that time.
@@elijahsokoni7997 Because those 3 are economically prosperous, politically stable countries. One could also make a case to put Ghana on that list, but the other 3 dozen or so sub-Saharan countries are shitholes much worse off today than they were under their European colonial rulers.
@@janellek21 Many African countries have been intentionally stunted by the powers that be. You can see this playing out now. If that wasn't the case, their stories would be different. France, the US, Britain and others killed Gaddafi, assassinated Lumumba, Thomas Sankara, introduced austerity measures that crippled Zambia's industries. Let's not act like these are not real things that happened. If these countries were allowed to compete fairly, their story would be different.
@@elijahsokoni7997 Gadhafi and Sankara were killed by political rivals in coups d'etat. Lumumba was killed with assistance from the USA, but that was in the 1960s. Countrles like Zambia, Zimbabwe, the DRC/Zaire, the CAR, Cote d'Ivoire, Uganda, Equatorial GUinea, etc. etc. were ruined by corrupt dictators.
@@janellek21 Well you asked for reasons ,didn't you? And no, there was no coup in Libya. Gadhaffi was not killed by political rivals. The information is plain for all to see, he was killed in a coordibated collective NATO invasion on a sovereign state. The country has since been in decline and if you care, they did it for selfish reasons. Zambia's industries were killed by the IMF's austerity measures in which they ended up buying all of it's mines and industries. This is a country that had very little corruption by that time. Zimbabwe was heavily sanctioned for 2 decades, rendering their currency useless. France still controlled (and still does) much of it's former colonies through the CFA franc in which these countries paid a collective $500 billion. "...but that was in the 60s" lmao and what difference does it make? The country was robbed of a strong start. After his brutal killing, he was then replaced with a corrupt dictator by the same people who inhumanely killed him. You can read all of this information for free and know the actual truth or you can spin the narrative like your country have always done.
@@hydromic2518 How did that affect the daily lives of the tribes there who'd never used those minerals? It didn't, but the British rail lines to South Africa and to the port of Beira in Mozambique brought great economic benefits to the native populations.
@@damionkeeling3103 Mineral resources have always been used by Native populations in Southern Africa. That is what made Great Zimbabwe so great and wealthy, it used its mineral resources to trade for goods. It most definitely did affect their lives because these minerals were often extracted on the land they lived and farmed on or herded their livestock. Not to mention the terrible working conditions for miners, especially African miners. There is no doubt that infrastructure like rail, roads, etc greatly benefited them but it didn’t benefit everyone equally. Segregated transport meant whites got a higher quality service in trains that were often less crowded.
@@lawsonhellu4718 They're not independent now, they're still dependent on others feeding and clothing them, the only difference is that the people doing it are no longer living in the same country.
Bieng deadbeat in Birmingham and fly out to Zimbabwe and become instantly Farm owner and member of the government without even paying a cent for anything. This was Paradise for who ever couldn’t make it in Britain and of-course a curse for the locals
The bloke in the shades at around 30 seconds is Martin Locke who was a RBC disc jockey and shop owner (Spinalong). Haven't seen him for ages!! I took the gap (chicken run, yes) when Portugal handed Moz over to Frelimo. Turned out to be more of a wise owl run than a chicken run.
Nearly 50 years on , poverty and peoples standard of living is just 5% of what it was then , I would love to ask the elder generation if they could turn back the clocks which era they would prefer , i sure things could have been done differently to have maintained better standards for all , now South Africa is going the same way
The illegal kleptocracy government of Zimbabwe, who stole millions from their own people. Going from a net export place to an import nation. Tobacco was a massive crop, those fields are now empty pieces of sand.
Us Whites stole Trillions from Africa alone, this does not include India. The trains where built to extract wealth from those nations. Imagine if Black people came into your country and built trains and then made you extract wealth and then load it onto their trains and suck you dry.
If only we could of managed to come to an internal settlement before the Eastern communists and the western Globalist Capitalists got involved ,but the CIA Coup in Portugal undermined the situation too soon for any strategy to be formulated and adopted, however things escalated from the day Portugal gave their colonies independence
Once the Portuguese pulled out of Mozambique and Frelimo took over and opened up the whole of the eastern border of Rhodesia, even as young as we were in those days, we realised it was just a matter of time. But damn, did I enjoy that time!
There have been many misconceptions about Rhodesia. I hope I can clear up a few of them. Contrary to popular belief, Rhodesia did not have apartheid laws. Yes there was racism on a personal level but it was not institutionalized. There were no separate facilities based on race. A seat on a bus, an airplane, or a park bench was for anyone. Many of the most fashionable clubs and hotels were desegregated and it was common to see non-Whites patronizing them. 40% of the students at the nation's universities were Africans all of whom were studying with government scholarships (in fact, African education was the third-largest item on the national budget after defense and agriculture) and African candidates were guaranteed a certain number of seats in the National Parliament. To be sure, the situation was not perfect. Blacks often were paid less than their White colleagues for doing the same job which meant that Blacks could not afford to live in more affluent neighborhoods and Ian Smith did not include any African ministers in his government before 1976. But despite its problems, the nation was a net agricultural producer, had a very stable currency, and despite the war even had a growing economy. If Ian Smith and the Rhodesian Front had handled the race situation differently and if the UK had not insisted on immediate majority rule, things never would have deteriorated as badly as they did later on.
No arguing that Rhodesia had to change, but every rational person knew what the sort of 'change' Mugabe advocated would bring, and they were right... what might have been. 😢
The USSR was deeply involved in the creation, arming, training, mission planning and all of the the guerrillas around Africa at the time. So Russia would have to help to.
I’d rather live in a safe prosperous country and not be able to vote than live in a wasteland where I can vote but my votes does nothing to make my life better.
Прежде чем давать власть "чёрному большинству", сначала надо было повысит их культурный и образовательный уровень. А то всё равно, что детям позволить страной управлять. Такие вещи не сразу делаются. Всё постепенно бы выравнялось лет через 20-30. Главное, что права были равными. Не было апартеида. А захотели всего сразу, да на блюдечке. А в результате развалили страну. Нельзя просто так убивать людей, жечь дома и отбирать то, что не было нажито преступным путём. Люди приехали, уже с деньгами, купили участки, честно платили зарплату, развили экономику, не было дискриминации, официально права были равными,никто не голодал, никого не унижали, все дети учились. Нет, надо было сделать какой-то "Скотный двор" - 2. Весь мир виноват, но свои - больше всех. Потому что чужие страны всегда ищут прежде всего своей прибыли и топят другие. А свои должны думать головой и не покупаться на прпаганду.Очень жалко страну. Урок всем странам и народам.
As a Russian why did your forefathers kick the Europeans out of Russian land? Why didn’t you let them stay there? Perhaps they would have civilized you a bit and you would be producing cars like Mercedes Benz. So I wonder why your forefathers didn’t take your advice and let the Germans have your land
When it was Rhodesia the UN had a permanent office in Salisbury to buy the massive food surplus the farmers produced and redistribute it around sub Saharan Africa to alleviate famines in other countries. Now it is Zimbabwe it is the largest recipient of foreign aid in the world. What a tragic loss.
Eugenics at work.
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It should be teach in Europeans and other mostly white schools across world what you wrote in this comment.
u cant compare a white govt with the backing of the entire rich western world with a puppet govt whose job is to facilitate neo colonialism
That's because kaffirs only know and understand pointy sticks and mud huts.
"If they ran the country for themselves there would be a better life for them" History has shown that after 44 years this was not the case.
& you think we forgot how EU & US imposed sanctions to ensure the country collapsed so you can start making such claims.
YTs have been the cancer to the world for far to long
There is NO medication for stupidity!
@@antonhuman8446 Yes there is. Cyanide pills.
@@antonhuman8446 And you also bet that there's no medication for your own stupidity plus your demagogry and bigotry. You people are such natural-born assholes. It leaves in your genes.
Not ago, fascists have been rampaging around UK, asking non-white go leave and one can bet that they're bigots like yourself.....
From the breadbasket of Africa, to the biggest joke for inflation and a starving population. No one ever starved in Rhodesia.
If cash crops and other agro products , for exports, were the reason for it being a “bread basket”, i wonder why the villages and settlements outside the city were flush with food and money 😂. Keep convincing yourself it was a bread basket. More like a slave plantation.
Until they stole your productive and exporting farms. It honestly makes me sad for what you honorable people went through while the Snivilized world, who has never worked a day on a farm or earned their keep went hungry. I wish you the best and know thats not much
Productive farms also existed in South Africa (the wealthiest and most powerful country on the continent) and in Angola and Mozambique when they were ruled by Portugal.
@@glendodds3824 I have traveled a lot and history fascinates me. Africa is one such issue and I am lucky to have some friends there. There is a great YT channel or two that train on such issues with out the typical BS. Portugal too on my bucket list. Have a good day Mr Glenn.
@@jackwalker9492That’s right, no one has ever worked on a farm other than you
What an absolute disaster Zimbabwe is! The simple truth is that because something is bad, does NOT mean that its replacement will be better. Sometimes the replacement is far, FAR worse.
Was it even bad though? Rhodesia was civilised, just, clean, productive, it had a bright future. I really don't care it was racist, black africans have been given countless countries and every single one is a shithole, good on the Rhodesians for having standards.
Are you for real? On what planet is white supremacy rule better?
@@Junje-ri9jotruth hurts. It makes you salty and it hurts like salt in a wound.
go to immigration right at the airport you a lot Chinese Indian south Asian descent trying to get in to poor Zimbabwe why ???
@@ashleymukarali4852 Why you africans everywhere begging to be let in and cry racism? Yet you cry when it happens to you
What a mess Zimbabwe is
Why do you care?
@@KorpusV6 I don't. They got what they asked for
Africa for Africans
The new president is doing much better than Mugabe though, let's just see how much progress can be made. The generation that is in charge, is the same generation that was fighting in the wars. And these people are really tired of fighting. Nevertheless, damage was really caused by Mugabes government. But this government seems to be taking another way. Time will tell.
Cop out question @@KorpusV6
Wakanda is doing well. They're the one country in Africa that really has their act together.
I tried to visit last year but they wouldn't let me in because I'm White. I didn't realize it was a black ethnostate.
"There is no dignity without freedom. We prefer freedom in poverty to wealth in slavery" - President Sekou Toure
Not one of those white parasite should be allowed to live there after what they did to those natives
America's future!
At least they not overdosing on drugs. Pale people love that extra euphoria in their rotten brains.
At least everyone in Zimbabwe is now a trilionare, thank you communism.
@@SpaceHeadYT what countries?
And thanks to communism, China is now the largest economy in the world by purchasing power parity. And thanks to capitalism, the gulf between the rich and the poor in the west is getting bigger and bigger. Just look at the inner cities of US and UK cities. Rundown with homeless and poor people, and rife with crime.
1975 " Rhodesia is such a terrible country - all the food fuel and we have air conditioning "
today " 10 trillion in Zimbabwe cash is worth 14 cents in USD there's no food fuel or medicine but this is fine "
This is the direction Europe is headed
For the same reason Haiti is so messed up. The developed world is actively hostile toward them.
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Handing the country over to violent toddlers
So you’re saying that people of color are almost like children that white people are responsible for ruling? That we should have a civilizing mission where we erase cultures and replace them with our own by force?
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You mean handing stolen land over and economically sanction the people of a land lock country as revenge.
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Violent ...retarded todlers....
Wow a train!...i haven't seen a train in Zimbabwe for many, many years!
Really??? They’re still running in Kenya & other African countries.
@kiuk_kiks I know. Zimbabwe has a hugely extensive rail network but our locomotives are broken down so trains are few & far between sadly.
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Those sanctions and the mismanagement of Mugabe destroyed Zimbabwe.
whats the point if the natives cant use it
Black powah ✊🏿
when it was still civillised and prosperous
And your own idea of civilization is killing oppressing and subjugating people of another race in their own homeland while you cry the hardest that people of this same race should leave your own country. Right ??? You people are simply natural-born hypocrites, always shifting the goal-post as it suits you. You people are so full f crap. Do they teach all of these crap from infancy ? Cos I still believe that every child was born without any bigotry.
aka white
Yes not civilised if you were black . I am white but if I was black and saw what was going on here in the video. I would join Mugabwe Zim May be screwed but Africans needed to have a go to find out.
it was hardly civilized
@@erikwirfs-brock2432they only built railroads, mines, farms, schools and hospitals. I was in Zimbabwe twice this year. Once on the way to Malawi and went to Gonarazou for a week recently. We all laughed when we realized that all the schools and hospitals that there are were built by the whites. Even the border posts. All old Rhodesian buildings. The new gov has done nothing but neglect what was left for them.
Untold fact: When Rhodesia turned into Zimbabwe along many white Rhodesians also some black Rhodesians left the country. They knew why.
If you tell us the fact, is it in fact, untold?
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You are right. Correctly formulated: It is a more or less unknown fact that along with the many whites, some blacks also left Rhodesia for South Africa because they did not want to live in a country called Zimbabwe.
"There is no dignity without freedom. We prefer freedom in poverty to wealth in slavery" - President Sekou Toure
@@aem870There's no dignity in begging the entire world to prop up your failed state either - yet you do that every day.
@@throwaway6478 crybaby.
Yeah Zimbabwe is the perfect example of the phrase the cure is worse than the disease.
Why did it take a cure for you to realize that it was in effect diseased?
Multiculturalism and Multiracialism is best.
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Rhodesia had a system of segreggation that was a bit similar to apatheid in Southafrica. Yes towns and cities were highly developed but that was for white people and a few natives handpicked to work for them. The rest were forcefully confined to rural areas on poor soils, with none of those city developments., this was done to live them with no choice but to work as farm labourers on white owned farms earning peanuts. There were white only schools, white only residential areas and even hospitals. Very few black pple had access to high sch education because of poverty plus there were very few schools for natives. I dont think those that lived under Rhodesia in rural areas (80% of the black population) wld prefer the life they had back then. You had to apply to visit a relative in the urban areas. I say both Rhodesia and current Zimbabwe were just as bad as each other for the rural poor
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*The rest were forcefully confined to rural areas on poor soils, with none of those city developments., this was done to live them with no choice but to work as farm labourers on white owned farms earning peanuts. There were white only schools, white only residential areas and even hospitals. Very few black pple had access to high sch education because of poverty plus there were very few schools for natives.*
Lets be honest. The real reason why African areas remained poor and impoverished was because they kept waiting for someone else to fix their problems rather than taking the initiative and working together to fix their own problems.
If you're poor you can choose to do nothing about it and just sit there and complain and get angry about how poor you are. Or you can get up and try and go out and organize with your community and try and lift yourselves out of that poverty.
Sadly all too often African people choose the latter option rather than the former and even when they're given everything on a silver platter and all they have to do is maintain what they've been given, they can't even do that and far too often they choose to plunder and destroy what they have and they have to start from scratch again.
And this notion that all Africans needed was opportunity to get ahead is mostly a lie. All you have to do is look at African people living in western nations where they're given EVERY OPPORTUNITY to build themselves a better life just like everyone else and guess what? They usually squander it anyways by turning to violence and crime rather than grabbing hold of that opportunity and running with it.
@@HealthonDemandTG oh, and what happened when they got the "good soils"?
And how did the transition work out for the majority of the blacks in the end ! 😂😂. What a sad state of affairs ! Mr Smith did more for his people of all colours than Mugabe ever did in the past 40 years ! The current government is no better than Mugabe was !
Are you stupid or something? Would YOU live as a peasant in your own country even if life as a free person was worse?? If you would then you're pathetic.
What extra stupid is that black life was *terrible*. Its not like they were revolting because they had amazing lives, you imbecile.
Zimbabwe is not only the urban areas
“Justification for what we did to humanity will come as pleasure to some”, President John Quincy Adams.
That goes both ways buddy!@omahabred9466
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A cautionary tale for the West, oh, it might be late.
It’s late
dont worry, im sure the semites wouldnt be that violent
Where did you go to school? The word is TOO.
Nope, its not too late, just late as it can be corrected, we are in the last hour;). Talking about schooling, do your homework before making silly comments.
Blacks are still minority, just like whites in South Africa
Well, that didnt turn out so well.
Of course not white people should’ve never been there in the first place. Everywhere they go they think they’re superior. None of this would have happened if those Europeans would’ve stayed home in Europe blacks would’ve have been just fine just like before the white man showed up
Shame on America and Britain for throwing our kinsmen, and the whole country quite frankly, under the bus.
What was done to Rhodesia & South Africa is being done now to the USA, Canada, UK, & Europe.
how? I’m South African, i don’t see the similarities
It's not sorry.
@@ja5239ghhhjj White political disenfranchisement & violence.
They are bringing people from thirld world to replace locals. Local communist-corrupt politicians that work with china, russia, north korea, iran and etc. are enforcing migration policies locally. Due to these policies major western powers like france england, germany are descending into chaos and are already looking like a shitholes. In a simplier language, bring third world= becone a third world.
You are right 100%Sir.
Same thing happening here in America
Back when they used electricity. Now they use candles.
Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, an outstanding African success story.
It would be a failure anywhere else.
Rhodesia was better off under Ian Smith
Should have stayed Rhodesia! Zimbabwe is nothing now like with South Africa!
EXACTLY RIGHT
THE FERALS HAVE TAKEN OVER
Not with white minority rule & black exploitation.
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@@matthewjohnson2853please explain your comment.
The blacks should have just accepted Zimbabwe-Rhodesia and let things go on like that.
In your dreams
They should have from an objective standpoint but human emotion is a crazily powerful thing.
too stupid to work!
They did, for the most part, it was the UN and Britain that did not accept Zimbabwe Rhodesia and continued the sanctions and support for Mugabe
It was Britain that ruined Rhodesia
Salisbury was founded in 1890 and was the oldest city in Rhodesia and had the largest white population, around 97,000 strong at the time of the 1969 census and larger by the time of this documentary. Most of the whites were either of British descent or had been born in the UK. The second largest group were Portuguese. In Rhodesia as a whole, however, Afrikaners (people mostly of mixed Dutch, German and French descent) formed the second largest section of the white community.
Furthermore, the journalist is wrong to say that Joshua Nkomo was moderate and that Abel Muzorewa was militant. It was the other way round.
Finally, impressive cities also existed in the Portuguese territories of Angola and Mozambique and of course in South Africa whose largest city, Johannesburg, was the most awe-inspiring city on the continent and is the city pictured at the very start of this video.
Yeah I found it strange how they mentioned Nkomo as a moderate when he was only slightly less extreme then Mugabe
Muzorewa wasn't moderate. There were many involved, the ones you mentioned and Sithole as well.
Is was a basket of bad apples, and Nkomo was viewed more favourably than the others by most in the West. Mugabe was a communist and an extremist, and he was not favoured, but it didn't matter because he managed to grab power and there was nothing the west could do at that point in time, after beating the equality, freedom and right of choice drums for nearly two decades.
They just left it to become the junkyard it is today, with its own leadership and direction.
Luanda....lourenco marques..Big portuguesse cities... looking form RUclips
The white people was never suppose to be there all 97,000 should have stayed in Europe
Thanks for clarifying the positions of Nkomo and Muzorewa. From all I've read, Muzorewa was someone more people could get behind.
ps. those townships of the 1970s are better then what many africans have today
And that justifies their existence?
@qcsorter4626 Why does their existence need justification?
@@qcsorter4626you're right the blks shouldve been left to live in their dung hut villages, tribal they were found and as so they should have remained
@@qcsorter4626 Not only is no justification needed where it needed it absolutely does.
If a people cannot rule themselves they should be ruled until they are able to do so. Zimbabwe and SA are both examples of the disaster that doing otherwise has.
@@qcsorter4626what justifies the squalor of today,in 2024, when everything is so plentiful? Why do those townships in 1976 need "justification"?
I love how the houses in the poor neighborhood are bigger and nicer than what I can afford now in the United States.
You can find houses in hundreds, probably thousands of small towns across America for $20k or less. Why not live there?
Where? Show me those houses. I dont think you know what your talking about
The USA and UK owe Rhodesian's a huge apology for forcing this outcome. Look at the state of the place now, everyone is worse off, a lot worse off.
R.I.P. Rhodesia
Rhodesia is always fascinating to read or watch videos about.
I agree. Rhodesia has a truly unique story
Be careful what you wish for
Yeah, you might no longer be indentured and oppressed but now instead of European countries trying to extract resources from your country they are just trying to sow dysfunction
You are using scare tactic as usual. The society you built on lies!
It is better to live in poverty as a free person than to live in a penthouse as a slave
@@YonasMulugeta-y1zThen enjoy your "freedom" (protip: being murdered for not supporting ZANU-PF is not freedom) and stop putting your hand out to other countries to feed you.
@@YonasMulugeta-y1z don't complain about inflation, fuel queues, and food shortages ever again then lmao
It's a shame actually, that Orwell was long gone and didn't see the old colonial countries "transition"...I am certain he would have predicted a few things accurately....such wasted potential all across Africa...
More shameful that they did not give education and find ways to integrate people into their ideology instead they got treated like animals.
@@lawsonhellu4718 You’re a primitive savage.
Orwell described British colonial rule as "despotism-benevolent, no doubt, but still a despotism with theft as its final object," and the British colonists as "dull, decent people, cherishing and fortifying their dullness behind a quarter of a million bayonets."
Portugal’s withdrawal from Mozambique in the mid -1970s was a bitter blow for Rhodesia and for the many Portuguese who lived in Mozambique. Portugal had fought a war against FRELIMO (communist-backed African nationalists) since 1964 and had received some military support from Rhodesia and South Africa. However, in 1974 there was a military coup in Portugal and left-wing army officers seized power and decided to stop fighting in Mozambique and Portugal’s other African territories, Angola and Portuguese Guinea.
Mozambique was granted independence in June 1975 and by this time a large-scale exodus of whites was underway-as was also true in Angola-and over a year or so about 90 per cent of whites left Mozambique.
Mozambique’s white population had peaked at around 190,000 in 1973. It was thus smaller than Rhodesia’s white community, which was over 250,000 strong by 1971, and was also smaller than the white population of Angola which was estimated at around 324,000 in 1973.
Incidentally, Mozambique had been a very popular holiday destination for Rhodesians and South Africans.
Portugal first. One can't fight guerrilla with drafted conscripts forever. Of course Portugal had to give in one day.
You thought a continent like Africa where the majority is indigenous black is accepting your white centric ideas? You and your racist peers in the comments are the reason why all African countries got their independence. You want to live something that others fought to not have to live anymore.
I've read that Angola had 400,000 whites, Mozambique had 370,000, and at it's maximum Rhodesia had 296,000 all at their zenith
The figures for the estimated white populations of Angola and Mozambique in 1973 are by Claudia Castelo, and appear in an article she wrote published in Ler Historia, volume 56, 2009. The white populations of both countries had grown rapidly in recent decades. For example, according to Castelo (and other scholars) between 1960 and 1970 Mozambique's white population rose from 97,245 to 162,967, and Angola's climbed from 172,529 in 1960 to 280,101 in 1970. Professor Malyn Newitt (in A Short History of Mozambique) says that the census of 1970 showed that there were 164,000 whites in Mozambique (perhaps he meant 163,000) and that half of the whites lived in the capital, Lourenco Marques. Finally, in a letter written in 1971 (and now available on the website, The Delagoa Bay World), Antonio Rita-Ferreira, an academic who lived in LM, says that the census of 1970 showed that the city's white population was 79,000, which is roughly in line with the statement of Newitt.
African nationalism >>>>>>
Long Live Rhodesia.
You have an Indian name. It is hilarious that you seemingly support colonialism 😂
@@kc4276 That place has turned into the cesspit since its colonials high-tailed, and they also have a *caste* system there, and for a very deliberate and explicit reason -- _i. e.,_ they understand that there a different demographics which should be demarcated for the betterment of the all concerned. Other countries, like l ꞩ ꭇ ꭤ ꬲ I, have that system too (albeit, tacit and denied), as does China. So, it seems that it's only considered bad if "the ꓪ ꜧ וֹ t ꬲ man does it"... The same demographic, incidentally, whose policies led to every technological comfort and innovation you now take for granted (including the Internet you are communicated through).
I’ve got news for you. It died.
Long live Wakanda too😂 it’s one and the same thing.. A fantasy
The streets of Salisbury looked clean and beautiful with people of all races living together. Now it's a one race city, black, and suffering an epidemic of corruption and ineptitude . The situation is replicated elsewhere as in Nairobi Kenya.
Black population was carefully controlled in those urban areas. Only the few with work permits and jobs were allowed in urban areas, the rest over 80% of the black population was forcefully confined to rural areas, thats why the streets were always clean......You needed to "apply" and get a pass to visit a relative in the urban areas. They also didnt live together, black people were not allowed in white residential areas, they had their own residential areas which were often overcrowded. After independence all the young men that were locked up in rural areas flooded the cities in search of jobs. Not trying to justify the currect state, ofcause gvt should channel a lot more resources towards acommodating the larger population, but Im saying the methods Rhodesia used in controlling populations in urban areas were wrong too.
@@HealthonDemandTG You make good points and I do agree with you. However I wasn't passing judgement on the Africans' ability to govern urban settlements, since I do appreciate that the concept of metropolitanism is absolutely alien to the culture of Africans' and was a byproduct of colonial occupation. The African never really identified with the concept of towns and cities and it would be expecting too much that the decolonized African would immediately go about governing and managing something he never conceptualised or built. So much as a squirrel would be expected to adopt and manage a beautiful nest built by a departed bird, so to speak.
My sister had a senior position in Kenya, a Britt Aid worker came out and disagreed with everything so she reorganised how everything was done, mainly feeding.. Result, child mortality went thru the roof as the fathers sold their food for booze, letting their own kids starve.. Welcome to African mentality
What is the “European mentality” then?
@hydromic2518 the exact opposite of African mentality eg do an honest days productive work, feed your children before yourself,, don't blame others for your self made problems etc etc. I lived 7 years in Africa
So patronizing Whites are
Far better than what it is now
I wish they'd interviewed a black recruit to the Rhodesian army. It would have been interesting to see why he volunteered. The villages remind one of the early Israeli settlements where a farmer had a plough in one hand and a rifle in the other.
The difference is the Rhodesians were Christian, Capitalist and the Israeli are 🕎👹, and the Kibbutzim is Socialism 😅
I worked with an American guy at the US bank I worked in. His father worked in the UK and so he went to a private school. When he graduated several of his mates went to Rhodesia to defend the regime, so he joined up too. I fought the rebels for several years before coming back to the U.S.. He was good for a lot of stories about this.
Like many who fought there he sort of knew the Africans had to eventually take over but was very bad with how the country fell apart after that.
Ian Smith was right….
Right about what? Being defeated by the very people he assumed were less than human. Whites lost and what we do with our ancestral land has nothing to do with any of you. Worry about Caucasian land.
Ok
When Mugabe got into power he had all of those settlements flattened around Salisbury and forebade street sellers.
The scale of destruction wrought by majority rule in Africa is staggering.
Europeans brought wealth health and education
also disease and slavery, but in return got electricity and modern medicine,just as it was like in Roman ruled Europe.the Romans did enslave people but also they gave them civilisation. Although people tend to thinlk that only black people were enslaved throughout history.
Also Racism, social inequality, Apartheid and Genocide.
@@Zakariya3603 literally any other group of people have done the same
Sadly, Europeans also created Marxism.
@@funk1966 Marx was Jewish
Just stop all foreign aid and let them improve on their own.
Yeah, let’s forget that Europe needed millions in the American aid to rebuild after WW2 and likely wouldn’t be anywhere near what it is today without it
@@hydromic2518 America bombed the crap out of European cities and after signing a deal that would let the communists take control of half the continent they were suddenly scared that the communists might take the other half.
@@hydromic2518Europe was a powerhouse well before ww2 lol
@@MrAckers75 yes but it was devastated by ww2 and almost completely destroyed
Every country has the government it deserves
Merit, not DEI. will restore success.
Removal of sanctions imposed sourly to ensure black rule fail is what caused the collapse in the first place, like the west tried to do to Russia & Japan
So they need to be white?
Merit is great if you know what to do. The educated whites just abandoned the country, leaving mostly illiterate people behind. Corrupt politicians and military officers took the rest. It’s not difficult to understand.
At this time, in 1976, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) was at the same wealth level as South Korea. Imagine that. It was still a poor country, but I do wonder what was the difference between white and black wealth level. To think that country's GDP today is only 50% higher than in 1980... and taking into account inflation, actually it is way worse. Even countries like Turkey grew like 8x since then...
South Korea was dirt poor in the 70s lol
50% bigger with now almost 3X the population. That 50% is actually a certificate of hopeless utter complete failure with such population growth.
SK got finanaced by America and the money got directly to the people living there. Not to a specific race,.
@@lawsonhellu4718no Koreans started making ships, cars then electronics, K-pop and K-dramas... Redistribution of someone else's wealth has never led to prosperity
@simonescelsa when that wealth is stolen off the backs of the working class then it most certainly DOES help to redistribute it.
Dirty hands -> clean money
Clean hands -> Dirty money
Heeeell yeah. Keep the Rhodesian content coming. Pleaseee
20:1 ratio of blacks to whites. 6 out of 7 blacks unemployed. That place was doomed.
Less employed blacks in the UK!
Any country with that amount of them is doomed, is a biological fait accompli
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As the end neared, Rhodesia was flooded with illegal immigrants from all around Africa which only accelerated the implosion, sort of like what’s happening in my country today.
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Rhodesia was never going to stay minority rule forever, it was inevitable and clear to the government that transition to joint governance was necessary to prevent social unrest. The issue was of timing. The country was not at all ready for majority rule when the UK wanted it to transition, so they had to declare UDI to prevent a political disaster and in doing so only walked into another one as no country had the stomach to openly support a racially divided country in the era of decolonialization. Immediately the country is then dragged into a decade long civil war against communist guerillas while the world ironically espouses democracy. Had the UN, UK, and USA not been as harsh and uncompromising, it's very possible that the country could have successfully transitioned to full legal and political equality while under a sort of probationary international period. It's also likely that as with South Africa that change may not have happened until the 1990's if not taken seriously. Another problem though was that of the pro-majority political parties which in Zimbabwe turned out to be just as tribal, bloodthirsty, and inept as predicted. The same happened in South Africa with the career ANC leadership completely unprepared for governance and out of touch with reality, leading to decades of corruption and decline. Had an internationally supervised probationary period occurred, and the communists not promoted by the UK, then it's possible that a generation of well educated and trained native Africans could have been prepared for governance and transitioned the country into the 21st century as a world class economy. This might be a fantasy idea, but I like to believe that a better outcome could have been brought about that wouldn't have resulted in the destitution of Zimbabwe and the flight of thousands of its citizens.
International probationary period? Communist UK? World clas economy? What planet are you from and how did you get to Earth?
@@damirblazevic4823 The UK kept allowing Mugabe to be in talks and then after he ruled the country continued to espouse how good he was even though he literally ordered a genocide against a rival tribe.
@@damirblazevic4823 Next to South Africa, Rhodesia was one of the most advanced and well run countries on the African continent. They were a manufacturing powerhouse and so critical for mining that the US literally had to pass legislation to work around their own sanctions in order to get Rhodesian chromium.
@@xc8487 That might be true. Just might. But it doesn't make it a world class economy. And, by the way, being a mining export country doesn't mean it was a "manufacturing powerhouse". What product manufactured (not mined, not harvested, but manufactured) in Rhodesia was sold globaly? A car? A ship? A machine? A household appliance? What Rhodesian banking or other financial services company was a serious global player? That's what makes a "world class economy". Chromium mining is nice, but it's a mono-culture economy. Far cry from "world class" category
@@damirblazevic4823 What other African country at the time was even close beside South Africa? Maybe not world class if you're comparing it to the US or Asia, but compared to other African countries it was.
Well that all turned out nicely, majority rule and prosperity and happiness all around!
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The west imposed sanctions to ensure the country failed let's not forget 😂😂
@@Truthseeker580 Sanctions came after the new government ransacked the country's coffers and started eliminating the Ndebele people.
Can't you racists let people choose who they want to? OMG
“sheeeeit jus lemme destroy yo country”
Ha! They are reporting in this video actually complaining that the bungalows where the people earn less are not as good. Where in the world is that not the case?! 😂
Also, some years ago i saw some of those same bungalows ... The drains on the sides of the once tarred/paved roads don't even exist anymore, sewage runs in the streets and the roads have never been maintained and hardly exist. Also the houses are crumbling. Literally ZERO maintenance of public service infrastructure as all the money for maintenance goes into politicians' pockets. I beg anyone in Zim to go to these exact same streets and buildings and post a linked video along side this one in 2024. Please do, somebody, anybody!!!
Why do you care? You seem hurt that your little bubble was burst now you think lashing out online will make your nearly finished life any less miserable. It won't😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@KorpusV6 My life is perfectly vibrant, thank you. What I find slightly irritating is lies, whether by inference, omission or otherwise. Oh... And not giving credit where it's justifiably due is also fairly annoying.
You're so right. We have speak truth when others who hates us want to lie by omission. God bless Jimmy!
@@oggeee96 True. People trying to spin things to make it sensational.
Any respectable man would humbly crumble under his own weight- rather than slave his life away for the benefit of a man who bares not an ounce of importance to himself.
Not being old enough to remember any of this, I'm astonished that such a place even existed
It was paradise on Earth
@@vernongoodey5096 Were you there? Just curious.
@@vernongoodey5096 A glorified racist shithole.*
It's interesting hearing the obvious disdain these British reporters had for the white Rhodesians.
It would be interesting to interview the reporters and ask them how they feel about both Zimbabwe and the UK today.
Now theyre doing the same thing to England
I'd prefer a world in which Rhodesia still exist; South Africa stays freee from the ANC and Overseas Portugal remains intact.
And why? So that white keep on having that monopoly you absolutely love?
What would be a rhodesia video without a toddler with a big mouth?
You prefer fantasy to reality.
hows Zimbabwe doing now???? oh yeah a hotbed of corruption and poverty....no country is Africa has had success under "self indigenous rule"
You gonna act like US & EU didn't impose the worst sanctions in the world to ensure indigenous rule fails. Colonialist always try to gaslight people no wander your population is fast dwindling
@@Truthseeker580 these sanctions no longer exist though quite tye opposite now these nations are being supported and still no prosperity, look at israel went through the holocaust were invaded so many tunes and are still able to thrive, 5hats what happens when you have no corruption and everyone works together with intelligence. This is why African nations are not able to thrive
Botswana?????? How about them?
botswana had, but to be fair, they never expelled white people from botswana, many of them brought a lot of value to the country back when it had to be built up. white people still live in botswana, they dont face institutionalised discrimination there(unlike in south africa, lets say) and even represent botswana in olympics. sometimes i wonder, what could africa look like if leaders were any good there, the whole continent has so much potential, but still most african countries suffer from a lot of problems
@@bsod111 Botswana recruited the white farmers from Zimbabwe.
Hahaha Zimbabwe this went so well. perfect example of be careful what you wish for you might just get it.
The question is, what should have been done differently? It's hard to accept the idea that the whites should have just fought harder to maintain power because that seems like it was always a lost cause. So, what should have been done differently?
The only thing needed was a strict protection of property rights.
What property, the colonists killed the indigenous to get those lands
@@Truthseeker580 And so did the new African rulers.
Never forget that this is what the black majority wanted. This is what they fought for. This is their choice.
Another country ruined, but can’t think by who 🙄
By YTs they imposed sanctions to ensure black rule fails.....
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Europe's fate is the same as Rhodesia.
Strange sort of paranoia you have
@@hydromic2518paranoia ? Open your eyes 😂
@@lucianaromulus1408 Na people like us that state the obvious are, crazy, conspiracy theorists, cooked, mentally ill, tin foil hat stans, unvaxxed idiots etc
Until said thing happens what you told them was going to and then.......silence. They'll forget you even said anything.
Its the same in south africa Its a mess now but nobody speaks about it. South africa (no oil but coal and some minerals) under white rule used to be the most advanced country in africa. Look a the disaster in equatorial guinea, a country rich in petroleum. The rhodesian army was very efficient notwithstanding the embargo and its small size and limited means (altough south africa lended some material ).
Ian smith looked also like a gentleman altough minorty rule is difficult to enforce (even on south africa)
some rhodesians i met regret to have been drafted, i can understand.
Zim dollar was such a success that they had to switch to dollars and euros
Yes. South Africa was the richest and most powerful country in Africa at the time. Furthermore, in addition to providing Rhodesia with military equipment, South African soldiers, para-military police and airmen served in Rhodesia, as is highlighted for example in some of the interviews on Fighting Men of Rhodesia, a RUclips channel.
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That's the effects of social division. Can't you assume it is partly your fault?
@@lawsonhellu4718it is ALL BLACK PEOPLE'S FAULT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ADMIT DEFEAT
It is very easy to be rich or look rich when you don't have to provide education, health, housing and infrastructure to 80% of the population. Did the blacks live in those fancy houses and drive fancy cars, were the blacks even allowed to own land or move to certain areas. How did the blacks live at that time.
With the exception of Botswana, Mauritius and the Seychelles, name one sub-Saharan country that is better off today than it was under colonial rule.
Why should any of those be the exception?
@@elijahsokoni7997 Because those 3 are economically prosperous, politically stable countries. One could also make a case to put Ghana on that list, but the other 3 dozen or so sub-Saharan countries are shitholes much worse off today than they were under their European colonial rulers.
@@janellek21 Many African countries have been intentionally stunted by the powers that be. You can see this playing out now. If that wasn't the case, their stories would be different. France, the US, Britain and others killed Gaddafi, assassinated Lumumba, Thomas Sankara, introduced austerity measures that crippled Zambia's industries. Let's not act like these are not real things that happened. If these countries were allowed to compete fairly, their story would be different.
@@elijahsokoni7997 Gadhafi and Sankara were killed by political rivals in coups d'etat. Lumumba was killed with assistance from the USA, but that was in the 1960s. Countrles like Zambia, Zimbabwe, the DRC/Zaire, the CAR, Cote d'Ivoire, Uganda, Equatorial GUinea, etc. etc. were ruined by corrupt dictators.
@@janellek21 Well you asked for reasons ,didn't you? And no, there was no coup in Libya. Gadhaffi was not killed by political rivals. The information is plain for all to see, he was killed in a coordibated collective NATO invasion on a sovereign state. The country has since been in decline and if you care, they did it for selfish reasons. Zambia's industries were killed by the IMF's austerity measures in which they ended up buying all of it's mines and industries. This is a country that had very little corruption by that time. Zimbabwe was heavily sanctioned for 2 decades, rendering their currency useless. France still controlled (and still does) much of it's former colonies through the CFA franc in which these countries paid a collective $500 billion. "...but that was in the 60s" lmao and what difference does it make? The country was robbed of a strong start. After his brutal killing, he was then replaced with a corrupt dictator by the same people who inhumanely killed him. You can read all of this information for free and know the actual truth or you can spin the narrative like your country have always done.
From a successful country to Communism to failure. Sad.
And just look at how well Zimbabwe is doing now. 😢
No food, no jobs. The Zims flooding out of the country hoping for a better life elsewhere.
could have been the Australia of Africa
Grazie
It's disgusting how the British betrayed their own people in Rhodesia. Sad.
You is racist as hell
"What did the Britons ever do for Rhodesia?" (Clip: trains speeding over the landscape)
Where is the clip of the Brits taking all the mineral wealth🙄
If the Mashona and Matabele had developed their natural resources they would a priori been an advanced culture and able to repel Cecil Rhodes!
@@hydromic2518 How did that affect the daily lives of the tribes there who'd never used those minerals? It didn't, but the British rail lines to South Africa and to the port of Beira in Mozambique brought great economic benefits to the native populations.
@@damionkeeling3103 Mineral resources have always been used by Native populations in Southern Africa. That is what made Great Zimbabwe so great and wealthy, it used its mineral resources to trade for goods.
It most definitely did affect their lives because these minerals were often extracted on the land they lived and farmed on or herded their livestock. Not to mention the terrible working conditions for miners, especially African miners.
There is no doubt that infrastructure like rail, roads, etc greatly benefited them but it didn’t benefit everyone equally. Segregated transport meant whites got a higher quality service in trains that were often less crowded.
I don't know but I know what the majority rule has done and it's destruction
Damn…It really went crap after 1979. Rhodesia was well ahead of its time.
can we have it back now
I love this country and its kind people
Now the Rhodesian is gone... are the majority enjoying their pools and fashion now? Nope!
Was that the reason to get independence? Nope!
@@lawsonhellu4718 They're not independent now, they're still dependent on others feeding and clothing them, the only difference is that the people doing it are no longer living in the same country.
Bieng deadbeat in Birmingham and fly out to Zimbabwe and become instantly Farm owner and member of the government without even paying a cent for anything. This was Paradise for who ever couldn’t make it in Britain and of-course a curse for the locals
Great uncle at the end there😊
Give them 100 more years and they will build a better country for themselves. All the best my fellow humans ❤😊
This is what's happening in America now. The people that built this country are long gone. We're just riding on the fumes.
So ashamed of the racism in these comments
The bloke in the shades at around 30 seconds is Martin Locke who was a RBC disc jockey and shop owner (Spinalong). Haven't seen him for ages!! I took the gap (chicken run, yes) when Portugal handed Moz over to Frelimo. Turned out to be more of a wise owl run than a chicken run.
Martin Locke yes and he also gapped it to SA. He was on Radio 5 in the 80's. I left Zim in 2007 after 27 years under Mugabe.
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Thank you
Nearly 50 years on , poverty and peoples standard of living is just 5% of what it was then , I would love to ask the elder generation if they could turn back the clocks which era they would prefer , i sure things could have been done differently to have maintained better standards for all , now South Africa is going the same way
Blacks living in those bungalows "not nearly so desirable" would be very much appreciated in America, land of the unemployed, home of the unhoused.
what might have been...
...an unequal society. Like major western countries.
@@lawsonhellu4718 Not all people work equally hard, nor produce equally.
The illegal kleptocracy government of Zimbabwe, who stole millions from their own people. Going from a net export place to an import nation. Tobacco was a massive crop, those fields are now empty pieces of sand.
Us Whites stole Trillions from Africa alone, this does not include India. The trains where built to extract wealth from those nations. Imagine if Black people came into your country and built trains and then made you extract wealth and then load it onto their trains and suck you dry.
Zimbabwe is now exporting more tobacco than during it's Rhodesia period. From 1200 farmers benefiting there are now over 100,000 black growers.
Killed hundreds of thousands of its own people, too. Look up Gukurahundi if you have a strong stomach.
@@michaelotieno6524yep, milk and honey in Zimbabwe. Promised land. Luring so many immigrants around the world. Real shit hole.
I'm kinda wondering why AP would bring this up 4 months ago?
Rhodesia had a thriving economy even with UN sanctions. Now as Zimbabwe the country is in total ruin......
If only we could of managed to come to an internal settlement before the Eastern communists and the western Globalist Capitalists got involved ,but the CIA Coup in Portugal undermined the situation too soon for any strategy to be formulated and adopted, however things escalated from the day Portugal gave their colonies independence
Once the Portuguese pulled out of Mozambique and Frelimo took over and opened up the whole of the eastern border of Rhodesia, even as young as we were in those days, we realised it was just a matter of time. But damn, did I enjoy that time!
There have been many misconceptions about Rhodesia. I hope I can clear up a few of them. Contrary to popular belief, Rhodesia did not have apartheid laws. Yes there was racism on a personal level but it was not institutionalized. There were no separate facilities based on race. A seat on a bus, an airplane, or a park bench was for anyone. Many of the most fashionable clubs and hotels were desegregated and it was common to see non-Whites patronizing them. 40% of the students at the nation's universities were Africans all of whom were studying with government scholarships (in fact, African education was the third-largest item on the national budget after defense and agriculture) and African candidates were guaranteed a certain number of seats in the National Parliament. To be sure, the situation was not perfect. Blacks often were paid less than their White colleagues for doing the same job which meant that Blacks could not afford to live in more affluent neighborhoods and Ian Smith did not include any African ministers in his government before 1976. But despite its problems, the nation was a net agricultural producer, had a very stable currency, and despite the war even had a growing economy. If Ian Smith and the Rhodesian Front had handled the race situation differently and if the UK had not insisted on immediate majority rule, things never would have deteriorated as badly as they did later on.
No arguing that Rhodesia had to change, but every rational person knew what the sort of 'change' Mugabe advocated would bring, and they were right... what might have been. 😢
I got labelled as a racist in a Reddit group by taking about Rhodesia 😂
Reddit is a toilet filled to the brim with unemployed, obese, communist turds.
Which reddit group?
Congratulations. That's a badge of honor these days.
@@Ben-hd7gh certain ones
Can’t believe they were sanctioned.
Мне кажется, что все страны участвовавшии в уничтожении Родезии должны совместно её восстановить.
Тебе никто ничего не должен, иди учи уроки
The USSR was deeply involved in the creation, arming, training, mission planning and all of the the guerrillas around Africa at the time. So Russia would have to help to.
@@clintit1 no way Russia would help white colonist ethno-states, like Rodesia or Israel. Go back to England
I wonder what the narrator would think today if he could see how things have turned out.
It's the story of Rhodesia, a land both fair and great. On the 11th of November, an independent state....
Fair my ASSS
I’d rather live in a safe prosperous country and not be able to vote than live in a wasteland where I can vote but my votes does nothing to make my life better.
Прежде чем давать власть "чёрному большинству", сначала надо было повысит их культурный и образовательный уровень. А то всё равно, что детям позволить страной управлять. Такие вещи не сразу делаются. Всё постепенно бы выравнялось лет через 20-30. Главное, что права были равными. Не было апартеида. А захотели всего сразу, да на блюдечке. А в результате развалили страну. Нельзя просто так убивать людей, жечь дома и отбирать то, что не было нажито преступным путём. Люди приехали, уже с деньгами, купили участки, честно платили зарплату, развили экономику, не было дискриминации, официально права были равными,никто не голодал, никого не унижали, все дети учились. Нет, надо было сделать какой-то "Скотный двор" - 2. Весь мир виноват, но свои - больше всех. Потому что чужие страны всегда ищут прежде всего своей прибыли и топят другие. А свои должны думать головой и не покупаться на прпаганду.Очень жалко страну. Урок всем странам и народам.
Если дать власть таким как ты, у нас будет вторая украина или приебалтика
Too late and as a result, fatal.
Is it difficult to leave Zimbabwe alone
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No wonder Africa wasn’t developed before arrival of Europeans.
and now, some 48 years later..... is the country generally better run and organised or worse and, more importantly, are the peoples happier or not?
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@@Junje-ri9joit's impressive how horrible it went when they let them rule themselves.
I dont know..wait let me step outside my front door and ask one of them, because they are all here in South Africa.