Chris (GSP) gave me this formula. For 1 troy oz of silver or 42 grams of silver chloride it takes..... 20 grams of sodium hydroxide, 13 grams of sugar, and 133 ml water.
I'm glad I found your videos you have some of the most detailed extraction videos I have found on RUclips. I work in the computer field so I have tons of scrap laying around and been thinking about trying to do an extraction thank you for the great information
Thank you for keeping the shows going always happy to see the notification that you posted something new. i was just thinking about the battery problem im abit forgetful when im baking (my job) so i always hook up my phone to a powerbank one of the small cheap ones that i can have in my pocket so im sure that i dont run out of charge mid work. that might work for your reciver to the headset mic so it has an extra source of energy so you dont need to check battery power and keep focus on the work you do instead :)
Sreetips, you are the man! Enjoy the heck out of your videos. I watch a wide range of PM refining videos, and yours are hands down the most informative, and entertaining. I've tried to find you on ebay several times, and haven't had any luck. Have you ever considered doing some one on one zume training? Really appreciate all your efforts in recording these processes.
I totally enjoy watching your videos thank you do you have a video that converts the copper waist back to a solid metal i would like to watch how that is done
Once I watch the Videos over and Over a few times it becomes easier to understand. Terminology is the key I restore Muscle or Classic Cars I am forever paying to have all my restored parts Zinc plated that gets expensive.
Awesome video as always! I am wondering if you could use a weak acid, maybe citric acid to kill the rest of the NaOH when you are having a hard time rinsing the silver so you don't have to blend it into suspension.
Glad of the new sound quality from the new Mic, but missing the sounds of the hood and lab that were picked up before, any way to Mic the lab for those ambient sounds I'm missing with the new lav mic? Loving the videos of the process and all the interesting refining methods
Nice job, i learned something i was not doing it right i used electricity and urea, and baking soda to get my precipate . My ore was dissolved with muriatic acid and bleach to get dissolution, then rinsed, filtered , not nearly as good as your method. Thanks for the tips
I got a question.. Why use Muriatic Acid to get the silver chloride instead of non iodized table salt? I have always used hot salt water because it's stupid cheap. Is there a better yield or something?
Another great video. I’ve heard you can melt silver chloride. I was wondering if you could do a test of both ways and see if there is a difference in yield? It might save a lot of steps.
Silver chloride can be melted. It must be done with plenty of sodium carbonate flux. It releases nasty gases. This is what I’ve been told. I’ve never tried it myself
Hey Nice to see the Lady Wife mate Pleased you both keeping well i did notice that both poweders are a distiked diffrent Colour to each other thats interesting thanks great Vlog
Could you use the funnel and filter method to rinse the copper solution off the Silver Chloride? Could you also rinse the Lye/sugar with the funnel and filter?
I understand the Videos the problem is do you have to be Licsence d for any of these Products used. And understanding test strips is a little confusing as when to use them?
While the two powders were on low heat, was it the moisture content that created the shaded difference or is 3 nines silver powder that much lighter than polluted silver..
I was wondering, just for interest... would it be possible to recover all the copper from the waste solution, form it into strips and use it to recover your next silver batch?
Yes, you can recover it, No you can’t use to cement silver, because it is heavily contaminated with Iron, ,, now if you want to take the time to wash it and dry it, you can melt it into bars or whatever and most scrap yards will buy it as ( Irony Copper) which pays less than #2
Sreetips, with your set up, I don't see the advantage to the lye/sugar method. I'm sure you explained and I missed it, but what happens to the pgms with this method?
I’m not all that familiar. But I believe that the PGMs can be precipitated out with DMG before converting the silver nitrate to silver chloride. That way we can get the PGMs before we get the silver. This technique avoids the silver cell all together. We get the PGMs “up front” and high purity, three nines silver, from the silver chloride conversion with lye and sugar. Some swear by this method, but I’ve always liked the silver cell so I go with cementing everything on copper. To each his own.
i need help with a silver problem. ive been sitting on a ton of silver waste that is a byproduct of making mirrors . its a muddy water which i ended up evaporated all the water now is just a brown dirt. i cant figure out how to turn it to a metal
Many silver compounds turn brown/black with exposure to light. Silver will also blacken over time as it oxidizes. That brown dirt may be the same stuff as Sreetips had after using the lye/sugar conversion process.
Sr Chief. If you don't mind I have two questions. 1. Do you ever get silver or gold assayed to confirm your estimates of purity? 2. Have you ever tried to make your own nitric acid or any other somewhat expensive chemical. Fair winds and following seas my man.
It would try to dissolve the fused silica melt dish and created some ugly junk that sticks to the silver. But I don’t think that is reacts chemically with the silver - I could be wrong though.
@@sreetips cool. I suggest installing a 1/2” barbed 3-way ball valve on the flask end of your vacuum tube. This will allow you to divert the vacuum from the flask and make it easier (and perhaps safer) when disconnecting the hose from the flask.
Wish I had half your Smarts. I always liked Chemistry however I majored in Electronic Engineering and Geology. Had some Lab Work but really was cheated after watching your Education at work!
Don't try to rinse the copper out of the silver in the filter. rinse the silver in the beaker and only pour off the water. When your done rinsing, then wash the silver into the filter-funnel.
Is there a reason you rinsed one batch of cement silver with multiple rinses and rinsed the other one in the funnel? It seems you wouldn't have to worry about ripped filters if they were both rinsed with with multiple rinses. Is it a waste thing?
The waste will get treated before disposal. The tap water contains chlorine. And it does create a problem when we dissolve the silver powder. The liquid silver nitrate solution remains clear. But it turns cloudy when distilled water is added. To remedy the powder must be melted, then redissolve to get the solution to clear up.
Hello Sir. can you tell me the chemicals needed to refine gold inside a 1kg metal which compose of iron, copper, palladium, rhodium, silver and gold. Please also include the estimated price and purity of chemicals needed. I would be really thankful.
I’ve never seen such an alloy. You’d be better off finding a professional refiner who gives credit for rhodium (most refiners do not). Trying to separate these metals is very difficult and nearly impossible for a beginner. Not a good place to start.
@@sreetips ok sir thank you but for me i'm just interested in getting the Gold and Palladium. Thank you for your help. I will get in touch with Auris Noble. I'm from Philippines by the way. God bless.
I've never seen you pour copper bars. Given that you can pour .9999 copper, is it worth putting on eBay? I'm seeing some prices that look pretty good, but I dunno what your costs are. :)
@Power 2 Weight Sure, but people are paying a premium on eBay for high purity bars. I mean he doesn't sell his high purity silver bars to scrap buyers either. :)
When you add lye to silver chloride, the result should be NaCl and silver oxide - and pH neutral. As long as there is unconverted silver chloride, the lye should react with it. If the pH drops down to around neutral, then I would think that more lye is needed. I have not tested this, but it might allow an easier determination of when conversion is complete.
Oh the sodium hydroxide generates so much waste in comparison to cementing with copper. I'm really interested to see the resulting yield from the different processes.
Hi i just started watching you and I see that some of your processes could be simplified or another step could be used 2 help refine but I'm not a chemist as a matter of fact back in high school my chemistry teacher didn't like the questions I was asking and kick me out I never had chemistry class again. I know you have a lot more experience than I do I'm just saying I see a lot of wasted steps and some neutralization could have been used instead of rinsing just my opinion like I said I'm not a chemist but I sure do like the silver crystals and your silver cell
Pure Silver and Gold my two favorite metals. I have bought coins since 2000! I sell some Gold and Silver when it goes up recently I made 2k profit off 1/10 ounce American Eagles I purchased @120 a coin. Now they sell for around $215 per 1/10 ounce coin. The Acid looks as it could be expensive?
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Very sweet of Mrs. Sreetips to upgrade your heating station there, double the action!
That was awesome seeing Mrs. Sreetips at the end. Can't wait to see part 3. :)
We were at an estate sale. Bought $3300 worth of gold and silver for $2600
@@sreetips thats awesome. So more refining videos to come i hope... :)
Chris (GSP) gave me this formula.
For 1 troy oz of silver or 42 grams of silver chloride it takes.....
20 grams of sodium hydroxide, 13 grams of sugar, and 133 ml water.
You just made my Friday evening. Thank you Sir. God bless !!!
talking about god on a science channel
Seems I never tire of the magic you make. Thanks bud.
Love the ending of the video you guys are awesome. Amazing work as always Sreetips.
Part 2 here we go!!
Sreetips on a Friday night, can't get better than that!!
Have a Great Day My Friend!!!
It's a great day when there is a new video from you..thank you for being awesome
Thank you, Sir, for your quality content. And my salutations to Mrs Sreetips!
I'm glad I found your videos you have some of the most detailed extraction videos I have found on RUclips. I work in the computer field so I have tons of scrap laying around and been thinking about trying to do an extraction thank you for the great information
you may be sitting on a nice retirement nest egg! good luck and very best wishes! 👍👍👊👊
Awesome video thanks for taking the time to do this
Semper Fi! I really enjoy watching your videos. My cell is about ready to go!
I really liked watching this. The way you improvised your lab equipment was very cool, I'm sure Thermo Fisher doesn't want labs to see this. LOL
Thanks for sharing I was waiting every now then seeing my notification for your video we love sir may Allah bless you long and healthy life ameen
Thank you for keeping the shows going always happy to see the notification that you posted something new. i was just thinking about the battery problem im abit forgetful when im baking (my job) so i always hook up my phone to a powerbank one of the small cheap ones that i can have in my pocket so im sure that i dont run out of charge mid work. that might work for your reciver to the headset mic so it has an extra source of energy so you dont need to check battery power and keep focus on the work you do instead :)
Great tip, thank you
Excellent video!!
The new microphone setup is doing wonders for your already awesome content.
Pleasure to make your aquaintance, Mrs. Sreetips! You’re a helluva shopper!
Love watching your videos, cause it’s the closest i’ll get to Silver. Hi Mrs.Sreetips Greetings from 🇨🇦
Sreetips, you are the man! Enjoy the heck out of your videos. I watch a wide range of PM refining videos, and yours are hands down the most informative, and entertaining. I've tried to find you on ebay several times, and haven't had any luck. Have you ever considered doing some one on one zume training? Really appreciate all your efforts in recording these processes.
Thank you. I don’t offer any kind of tutoring or training. It’s my hobby.
I totally enjoy watching your videos thank you do you have a video that converts the copper waist back to a solid metal i would like to watch how that is done
That was nice of Mrs. Sreetips to buy you a dual burner.
You’d be the most awesome dad lol wish my old man was into chemistry lol brilliant videos
Can't wait for the rest😜
Indeed, perfect Friday night now
Once I watch the Videos over and Over a few times it becomes easier to understand. Terminology is the key I restore Muscle or Classic Cars I am forever paying to have all my restored parts Zinc plated that gets expensive.
Awesome video as always! I am wondering if you could use a weak acid, maybe citric acid to kill the rest of the NaOH when you are having a hard time rinsing the silver so you don't have to blend it into suspension.
I’ve never tried
Glad of the new sound quality from the new Mic, but missing the sounds of the hood and lab that were picked up before, any way to Mic the lab for those ambient sounds I'm missing with the new lav mic? Loving the videos of the process and all the interesting refining methods
That 2nd Mic could also act as a backup for when your wireless transmitter's batteries get low
Nice job, i learned something i was not doing it right i used electricity and urea, and baking soda to get my precipate . My ore was dissolved with muriatic acid and bleach to get dissolution, then rinsed, filtered , not nearly as good as your method. Thanks for the tips
making sure i leave a comment on every vid i watch +1 for the algo, love your vids
Streetips, what cartridge do you use on your respirator when you are doing your melting to protect against vapors during the melting process
The silver produced from the lye and sugar method, do you make shot with it for the silver cell to refine or is it pure enough to melt into bars?
5:40 why didn’t you use the stir rod to scrape the corners to get the white power out and dissolved/converted?
I would like too come over and learn from you how these Metals are rendered?
Sreetips ,, Have you considered using Lye/Sugar waste to treat the final waste bucket that contains Iron,, just a thought ..
Sodium Hydroxide to dissolve glass, interesting! Great video, thanks for the post.
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Has to be hot if you want it to not take forever.
I got a question.. Why use Muriatic Acid to get the silver chloride instead of non iodized table salt?
I have always used hot salt water because it's stupid cheap.
Is there a better yield or something?
Another great video. I’ve heard you can melt silver chloride. I was wondering if you could do a test of both ways and see if there is a difference in yield? It might save a lot of steps.
Silver chloride can be melted. It must be done with plenty of sodium carbonate flux. It releases nasty gases. This is what I’ve been told. I’ve never tried it myself
Hey Nice to see the Lady Wife mate Pleased you both keeping well i did notice that both poweders are a distiked diffrent Colour to each other thats interesting thanks great Vlog
I don’t have a good explanation for that
Very nice
Could you use the funnel and filter method to rinse the copper solution off the Silver Chloride?
Could you also rinse the Lye/sugar with the funnel and filter?
Probably not though I’ve never tried. Silver chloride would load the filter paper and reduce flow to drips.
I understand the Videos the problem is do you have to be Licsence d for any of these Products used. And understanding test strips is a little confusing as when to use them?
I prefer those solid top heaters. Nothing to fall into. Once they heat up they hold it longer too.
While the two powders were on low heat, was it the moisture content that created the shaded difference or is 3 nines silver powder that much lighter than polluted silver..
That’s a good question. I can’t explain the color difference
I was wondering, just for interest... would it be possible to recover all the copper from the waste solution, form it into strips and use it to recover your next silver batch?
Yes, you can recover it, No you can’t use to cement silver, because it is heavily contaminated with Iron, ,, now if you want to take the time to wash it and dry it, you can melt it into bars or whatever and most scrap yards will buy it as ( Irony Copper) which pays less than #2
Awesome
Senior Chief, can you not use a
couple of drops of HCL or vinegar neutralize the lye?
Possibly
When you were adding lye, what made you realize that you were short on water? What was the indication that you saw?
It became too thick for the mixer to properly mix, generally you need 1/2”-1” of water covering over the chloride before beginning with conversion
mad respect for your use of the plural pronoun & objective
i really like the new mike!!! also is it cheaper to distill your own water?
A good 5 stage RO system will give you all the pure water you will ever need for reactions and drinking for about $130.00
When cementing silver on copper, does the temperature of the solution have an effect on the speed of the reaction?
No, but if there’s a whole bunch of excess nitric then the solution will get hot. And it will needlessly consume the copper.
Sreetips, with your set up, I don't see the advantage to the lye/sugar method. I'm sure you explained and I missed it, but what happens to the pgms with this method?
I’m not all that familiar. But I believe that the PGMs can be precipitated out with DMG before converting the silver nitrate to silver chloride. That way we can get the PGMs before we get the silver. This technique avoids the silver cell all together. We get the PGMs “up front” and high purity, three nines silver, from the silver chloride conversion with lye and sugar. Some swear by this method, but I’ve always liked the silver cell so I go with cementing everything on copper. To each his own.
Should you put sugar
i need help with a silver problem. ive been sitting on a ton of silver waste that is a byproduct of making mirrors . its a muddy water which i ended up evaporated all the water now is just a brown dirt. i cant figure out how to turn it to a metal
Many silver compounds turn brown/black with exposure to light. Silver will also blacken over time as it oxidizes.
That brown dirt may be the same stuff as Sreetips had after using the lye/sugar conversion process.
Sure a possibility, but ineffective. Thanks for your work.
Sr Chief. If you don't mind I have two questions.
1. Do you ever get silver or gold assayed to confirm your estimates of purity?
2. Have you ever tried to make your own nitric acid or any other somewhat expensive chemical.
Fair winds and following seas my man.
Wondering, how would melting the cement with the sodium hydroxide contaminate the final solid silver product? Wouldn’t it burn off?
It would try to dissolve the fused silica melt dish and created some ugly junk that sticks to the silver. But I don’t think that is reacts chemically with the silver - I could be wrong though.
Hot distilled watet at 32.00? Is it H30?
Thank you good vedio
What material are the casseroles you use?
Thanks sreetips
Those are Corning Ware pyroceram
That new mike works really well much better audio.
It’s more work during productions, but I love the sound quality. Still working the bugs out.
Senior Chief…may I suggest a 1/2” barbed three way pvc ball valve for the flask end of your vacuum line?
Yes you may
@@sreetips cool. I suggest installing a 1/2” barbed 3-way ball valve on the flask end of your vacuum tube. This will allow you to divert the vacuum from the flask and make it easier (and perhaps safer) when disconnecting the hose from the flask.
Excellent suggestion, thank you
Wish I had half your Smarts. I always liked Chemistry however I majored in Electronic Engineering and Geology. Had some Lab Work but really was cheated after watching your Education at work!
My vote would be the Silver Cell method. Seems simple with little extra chemicals and waste.
Agree
Don't try to rinse the copper out of the silver in the filter. rinse the silver in the beaker and only pour off the water. When your done rinsing, then wash the silver into the filter-funnel.
Is there a reason you rinsed one batch of cement silver with multiple rinses and rinsed the other one in the funnel? It seems you wouldn't have to worry about ripped filters if they were both rinsed with with multiple rinses. Is it a waste thing?
Can’t remember, I’d have to watch it again.
Senior Chief…what parameter
dictate the process you use to refine/collect silver!
Buy low, hold on for dear life
@@sreetips 🤣🤣
What do you do with West Product
You used tape water for washing
That contain Cl2?
It's measured in parts pr billion. Not enough to make a difference.
The waste will get treated before disposal. The tap water contains chlorine. And it does create a problem when we dissolve the silver powder. The liquid silver nitrate solution remains clear. But it turns cloudy when distilled water is added. To remedy the powder must be melted, then redissolve to get the solution to clear up.
Good content! You need a furnace and a crucible brother.
Totally
Hello Sir. can you tell me the chemicals needed to refine gold inside a 1kg metal which compose of iron, copper, palladium, rhodium, silver and gold. Please also include the estimated price and purity of chemicals needed. I would be really thankful.
I’ve never seen such an alloy. You’d be better off finding a professional refiner who gives credit for rhodium (most refiners do not). Trying to separate these metals is very difficult and nearly impossible for a beginner. Not a good place to start.
@@sreetips ok sir thank you but for me i'm just interested in getting the Gold and Palladium. Thank you for your help. I will get in touch with Auris Noble. I'm from Philippines by the way. God bless.
I've never seen you pour copper bars. Given that you can pour .9999 copper, is it worth putting on eBay? I'm seeing some prices that look pretty good, but I dunno what your costs are. :)
Tom, I don’t have the time to devote to it
@Power 2 Weight Sure, but people are paying a premium on eBay for high purity bars. I mean he doesn't sell his high purity silver bars to scrap buyers either. :)
@Power 2 Weight Yeah, that's a pretty valid point. The bars they are selling on eBay are HUGE in comparison. hehe.
When you add lye to silver chloride, the result should be NaCl and silver oxide - and pH neutral. As long as there is unconverted silver chloride, the lye should react with it. If the pH drops down to around neutral, then I would think that more lye is needed.
I have not tested this, but it might allow an easier determination of when conversion is complete.
That sounds right.
Copper nitrate is such a pretty blue
My favorite color. The ocean is a beautiful blue that’s looks similar to the electrolyte
Oh the sodium hydroxide generates so much waste in comparison to cementing with copper. I'm really interested to see the resulting yield from the different processes.
Hello çok UZUN Video
you should make a solid silver mini youtube button and auction it on ebay , willing to bet it goes for a decent price
hey sree, did you marry the mrs. when she was 10 yrs old?
Hi i just started watching you and I see that some of your processes could be simplified or another step could be used 2 help refine but I'm not a chemist as a matter of fact back in high school my chemistry teacher didn't like the questions I was asking and kick me out I never had chemistry class again. I know you have a lot more experience than I do I'm just saying I see a lot of wasted steps and some neutralization could have been used instead of rinsing just my opinion like I said I'm not a chemist but I sure do like the silver crystals and your silver cell
1:48 the forbidden chocolate milk
Had to look that one up; (C12H22O11).
Pure Silver and Gold my two favorite metals. I have bought coins since 2000! I sell some Gold and Silver when it goes up recently I made 2k profit off 1/10 ounce American Eagles I purchased @120 a coin. Now they sell for around $215 per 1/10 ounce coin. The Acid looks as it could be expensive?
Well finally. S CB mixer that u it s not a narrow useless glass rod
Hand blender works great
Hey Kevin...you ok? You've been sounding "breathy" in the last couple of videos. Not trying to step on toes..just hoping you are ok!
It’s the mic placement catching my breath movement. It’s better in part two. I’ll get it worked out soon
@@sreetips You seem like an ole navy workhorse, just want to make sure!
lol - wonder if it is sweet enough, have a taste, just don't mind the lye and the heavy metal poisoning.... :-))
I know the blue waste water is useless to you but I would like to see you get the
Copper back and turn it back to a metal
@@richardchayer6597 Pretty sure all you have to do is put some iron in there and copper will cement out.
Where is your ice cube?
Left it in the freezer