@@EssexAggiegrad2011 not really misused he won the tittle after that , after starcade 1997 wcw was in a rough place cause it showed how strong hogan truely was , sting wasn’t used badly and after Starcade 1997 that silent mysterious character of his was dead 1 cause he started talking and wrestling a lot and started coming to the ring like a normal guy and 2 cause of how starcsde 97 and that world title reign ended
Benoit claimed years later that Sullivan never took undue liberties during their real life feud and was a consumate professional in and out of the ring, even though he was the head booker of WCW at the time and could literally book anything he wanted.
If it's Ric Flair in his prime, it's 141 2/3 of signing him in the WWF. See, Pacitti, the numbers don't like and they spell disaster for Jim Herd at WCW.
Among Sid stories in WCW, both verified and rumored, "scissors as a weapon" is normal compared to "squeegee as a weapon" and "squirrel down my pants, this won't go poorly."
7 sins of WCW 1. Creative control for Huk Hogan 2.Starrcade 1997 main event 3. Fingerpoke of Doom 4.Uncensored 1999 5. Russo 6 David Arquette WCW Champion 7 Vince Russo WCW Champion
I liked the uncensored 1999 decision. Turning hogan back to red and yellow would have got a lot of nostalgia money for WCW. Eventually WWE capitalized on it in 2002
The fact that WCW almost killed WWE by trying to steal the Ramon and Diesel gimmicks, only for WWE to get that little caveat in the agreement that they can buy the company for dirt cheap to turn into them 100% killing WCW is still wild to me.
I still believe that if Hogan wasn't signed by WCW, then WWF (which was it is called back then) signing Ric Flair and getting the WHC would have finished off WCW then and there.
@@daviddalrymple2284 doubtful with the merger, they would have killed it immediately as it was a money-loser…maybe WWF buys them in 1998 but then again they wouldn’t have had the big money then
The Outsiders thing wasn’t even the first time WCW got busted by the WWF for trademark infringement. There was the time John “Earthquake” Tenta and Ray “Big Boss Man” Traylor followed Hulk Hogan across and debuted with their WWF-owned gimmicks using tweaked names. And they couldn’t even get that right, even though Traylor was supposed to just be “The Boss” the commentators (and even the ring announcer) kept calling him Big Boss Man.
I had a friend that worked at the gold club as a bartender up until it closed, would tell some amazing stories about some of the biggest names in the biz
The more I look at Sting vs Hogan, I noticed that Hogan was doing a dirty pin by holding Sting's outfit while pinning him, which is illegal in pro wrestling and is viable for Hart to make the save
Instead of Bischoff saying “let’s get these fans talking about the entire show I’m not satisfied” he instead of relying on celebrities, let everyone have their way, insulting the fans, and overusing stars of the past for a cheap pop. That’s a shame
Yh but wwe is never dying or will never have the chance to , cases like that only come when the talent see the company is experiencing it’s worse times , cause at that point you don’t give a f if they fire you or not , you expect someone like koffi to sue wwe now , what if he loses he’d be jobless
look closely at just who sued: undercard jobbers, the ones nobody gave a damn about because they weren’t that good. it was a money grab by nobodies who were only kept around because of the house shows and three shows per week. no shock that the lawsuit came when the third show was dropped and yes there were a few racists but WTF do you expect, it’s no different than anywhere else 🙄
Missy Hyatt damn what a dissapointing meeting I had with her. She was one of my child hood crushes an treated me like dirt at a con. I could understand if I was being fan boyish but not the case I went over to her table an she took one glance an me an turned her head an when Jasmin Sinclair tried to her attention for me she continued to ignore me. After that experience that child hood crush on her died an in place of it is nothing but distain for the woman.
Nancy's eventual fate once is confirmation that whatever Benoit's talents may have been, he's one of the greatest real-life monsters pro-wrestling has ever seen.
Yeah Hogan took an actual wrestling angle to court, lol. Hogan can stick it to the fans with the fingerpoke, but oh no, don't stick it to Hogan brother! Creative Control Brother! Hogan will take u to court over a wrestling angle, brother! That case got laughed out of the courtroom like it deserved BROTHERRRR!
addemendum on the whole 'Flair put down a deposit' it was not when he won the current belt. It was when it was still the NWA title, and still a company run by Crockett. Herd never took that deposit, Turner run WCW never took that deposit, heck the company wasn't even called WCW when someone took that deposit. Flair was debating technicalities on a contract long since voided that someone somewhere owed him money so he could do what he liked because he was miffed at Herd.
Too be fair for the last one, Hardbody Harris's word isn't really worth that much, since he was also accused of sex trafficking. Just to play Devil's advocate.
When your most loyal workers leave (Flair, Benoit, Jarrett, Eddie, Malenko, and Jericho) and your most hardcore fans change channels, you know your company is doing something wrong.
McMahon could afford stereotyping his talent and give them tendencies that come along with the stereotypes whichever face or heel, but not like dubyaceedubya, they got absolved of they're sins and passed it down to its competitor.
He was great and he was like Lesnar, when he was motivated nobody could do what he could do but when he was just there to fill the dates and collect cheques he would leave a mess.
after booker t called hogan the n word at spring stampeed 97 he would never touch the world title untill hogan walked out the door at bash at the beach 2000
People, this channel doesn't do their research evidently because Ric Flair didn't have a problem going to Thunder but since he was at home due to an angle and had plans to attend his young son's AAU wrestling championship, it was a conflict but doable until Eric or WCW management wanted Flair to pay half his travel finances so in a way whatever their policies were back then (if someone could get a hold of it), I would say Ric did violate his contract.
with all due respect to Flair, he was well past his prime in the late 90s and coasted by on just name alone. he was flabby, slow moving, winded, and sweating profusely during matches. he was the no different than Hogan with the ego issues and matches fitting his demands.
I just wanna know why Booker, Ray, Konan, etc weren't involved in the discrimination lawsuit. Seems to me it was underneath guys who weren't that great and couldn't accept MAYBE it was them. Isn't that right around the time Booker was in the main event champion scene, getting the belt put on him?
Lol you forget booker had been in the company up to how many years by that point starting as a tag team wrestler and being buried by the steniers and outsiders even having his bro turn on him , bookers world heavy weight win was definitely a ok you been with us for a while have a shot at the Gold and it clearly came when wcw was at its dieing days ,wcw was racist and those allegations prove it
Booker wouldn’t sue and Konan cause they were some of the few non whites who were paid high , but what do you expect the jobblers or mid caders to do they have family’s they need to take care of
You should say WWF when it's the Past and WWE when it's the modern day for now on. It's disrespectful to compare WWF to the WWE. Real wrestling fans know the difference.
These scrawny, Whatculture marks who grew up with Cena and WWE propaganda dvds only ever make lists that diss WCW, which is fine, but how often have we seen them sing WCW's praises? Hardly ever and that's sad.
"It's fake. It's just a show." And your point is? Bad writing and bad business decisions that led to a company going out of business should not be forgotten.
@@alastair852 bro the finger poke of doom wasn’t that bad , don’t you see the interviews between kelvin and hogan after it and thier funny ass sarcastic remarks of the match , was hilarious wcw was just not on power with the wwf at that point , if it had happened let’s say 1997 it would have made for good television fam
It's crazy how much Ric Flair was disrespected by WCW despite being there through to the bitter and painful end.
He stayed for the money. Which is the reason why so many people put up with disrespect at work.
@@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 except he made significantly more money
Same with Sting. After Starracade 1997 he was misued.
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 not really misused he won the tittle after that , after starcade 1997 wcw was in a rough place cause it showed how strong hogan truely was , sting wasn’t used badly and after Starcade 1997 that silent mysterious character of his was dead 1 cause he started talking and wrestling a lot and started coming to the ring like a normal guy and 2 cause of how starcsde 97 and that world title reign ended
he was a huge part of the problem though…
Benoit claimed years later that Sullivan never took undue liberties during their real life feud and was a consumate professional in and out of the ring, even though he was the head booker of WCW at the time and could literally book anything he wanted.
If it's Ric Flair in his prime, it's 141 2/3 of signing him in the WWF. See, Pacitti, the numbers don't like and they spell disaster for Jim Herd at WCW.
Steiner math.
This Sunday at Starrcade.
Among Sid stories in WCW, both verified and rumored, "scissors as a weapon" is normal compared to "squeegee as a weapon" and "squirrel down my pants, this won't go poorly."
There's a good smark.
well he does have half a brain…
7 sins of WCW
1. Creative control for Huk Hogan
2.Starrcade 1997 main event
3. Fingerpoke of Doom
4.Uncensored 1999
5. Russo
6 David Arquette WCW Champion
7 Vince Russo WCW Champion
DON'T FORGET THE WEST HOLLYWOOD BLONDES ( LOKI AND LENNY LANE)
I liked the uncensored 1999 decision. Turning hogan back to red and yellow would have got a lot of nostalgia money for WCW. Eventually WWE capitalized on it in 2002
@@geeshep4836 Lodi
Aren't sins 5-7 basically the same thing?? No russo, none of that stupidity
@@connorkinsman3164Came to say that lol. 5/6/7= Russo
"Scissor me, Sycho Sid! ... Wait, what are you doing with those scissors? Sid!? What are you doing!? Sid!? Sid!?"
The fact that WCW almost killed WWE by trying to steal the Ramon and Diesel gimmicks, only for WWE to get that little caveat in the agreement that they can buy the company for dirt cheap to turn into them 100% killing WCW is still wild to me.
That makes it look even more like Vince McMahon sent Russo to WCW to deliberately sabotage and kill that company.
It's almost like it was fate.
Hall wasn’t doing Razor mannerisms. Razor was doing Diamond Stud mannerisms.
I still believe that if Hogan wasn't signed by WCW, then WWF (which was it is called back then) signing Ric Flair and getting the WHC would have finished off WCW then and there.
I think that a Hogan-free WCW would have limped along with its "Saturday Night" show through the 90s, thanks to Ted Turner's support.
@@daviddalrymple2284 And basically be what TNA/Impact is now? Ted was far too ambitous for that.
@@daviddalrymple2284 doubtful with the merger, they would have killed it immediately as it was a money-loser…maybe WWF buys them in 1998 but then again they wouldn’t have had the big money then
The Outsiders thing wasn’t even the first time WCW got busted by the WWF for trademark infringement. There was the time John “Earthquake” Tenta and Ray “Big Boss Man” Traylor followed Hulk Hogan across and debuted with their WWF-owned gimmicks using tweaked names. And they couldn’t even get that right, even though Traylor was supposed to just be “The Boss” the commentators (and even the ring announcer) kept calling him Big Boss Man.
they would have been better off just calling Taylor his original JCP name instead, it was better…
Call him Bryan bossmen or something damn.
I had a friend that worked at the gold club as a bartender up until it closed, would tell some amazing stories about some of the biggest names in the biz
Start a podcast
Wow, never knew that was the reason WWF got such a good deal on WCW.And that's even crazier that the 1996 suit went into august of 2000.
2:52 The number is no longer in service :/ lol 😂😂😂😂
There's more lawsuits in this list than in Jerry McDevitt's bedroom closet
Lol I didn't know Bishoff got down like that 🤣
God.
The smackdown laid down
In a courtroom throw down
IT WAS RIGHT THERE PACITI
"Sid Scissors Arn Anderson"? I'm sorry...WHAT? It sounds like they were fighting over arts & crafts.
Top 10 Ring Destruction List Please (off top of head 3 ideas are: original ring collapse, Lesnar with bulldozer, Nexus debut)
The more I look at Sting vs Hogan, I noticed that Hogan was doing a dirty pin by holding Sting's outfit while pinning him, which is illegal in pro wrestling and is viable for Hart to make the save
Wow, you're right. Wonder if that was done to make Nick Patrick's face turn more believable.
WCW was my upbringing!
Great work again lads cheers 👍👍
Instead of Bischoff saying “let’s get these fans talking about the entire show I’m not satisfied” he instead of relying on celebrities, let everyone have their way, insulting the fans, and overusing stars of the past for a cheap pop. That’s a shame
This title is simply amazing
Was aware of the scissors attack. Was not aware it was in Blackburn. Can't seem to find where it actually happened, though.
The Moat House Hotel (formerly the Saxon Inn). Demolished in 2001.
@@AwkwardAutognome Much appreciated. Can't say I have a connection, but I'm glad to have an answer. Was hoping it was somewhere I knew.
Racial discrimination how damn lucky is WWE. Inexcusable for any company however they are just as guilty if not more.
Yh but wwe is never dying or will never have the chance to , cases like that only come when the talent see the company is experiencing it’s worse times , cause at that point you don’t give a f if they fire you or not , you expect someone like koffi to sue wwe now , what if he loses he’d be jobless
look closely at just who sued: undercard jobbers, the ones nobody gave a damn about because they weren’t that good. it was a money grab by nobodies who were only kept around because of the house shows and three shows per week. no shock that the lawsuit came when the third show was dropped
and yes there were a few racists but WTF do you expect, it’s no different than anywhere else 🙄
Missy Hyatt damn what a dissapointing meeting I had with her. She was one of my child hood crushes an treated me like dirt at a con. I could understand if I was being fan boyish but not the case I went over to her table an she took one glance an me an turned her head an when Jasmin Sinclair tried to her attention for me she continued to ignore me. After that experience that child hood crush on her died an in place of it is nothing but distain for the woman.
As someone born and raise in Blackburn, it always looks like something out of the Shining ;)
We need every WCW pay per view ranked from Worst to best lol
Jim heard what? WHAT DID JIM HEAR?!
Nancy's eventual fate once is confirmation that whatever Benoit's talents may have been, he's one of the greatest real-life monsters pro-wrestling has ever seen.
Yeah Hogan took an actual wrestling angle to court, lol. Hogan can stick it to the fans with the fingerpoke, but oh no, don't stick it to Hogan brother! Creative Control Brother! Hogan will take u to court over a wrestling angle, brother!
That case got laughed out of the courtroom like it deserved BROTHERRRR!
F them for disrespecting Ric like that also Happy b day Nature Boy Woooo!
addemendum on the whole 'Flair put down a deposit' it was not when he won the current belt. It was when it was still the NWA title, and still a company run by Crockett. Herd never took that deposit, Turner run WCW never took that deposit, heck the company wasn't even called WCW when someone took that deposit. Flair was debating technicalities on a contract long since voided that someone somewhere owed him money so he could do what he liked because he was miffed at Herd.
Too be fair for the last one, Hardbody Harris's word isn't really worth that much, since he was also accused of sex trafficking. Just to play Devil's advocate.
Remember ordering starcade 97 just because of the hogan sting match major let down finnish
Now you guys have to make Top 10 that includes in the title "That aren't the Montreal Screwjob."
I think you missed out a Bro in the mark quote...mark.
Kevin Sullivan taught us to never book your wife in a storyline with another guy... especially when he ends up doing... ykw.
When your most loyal workers leave (Flair, Benoit, Jarrett, Eddie, Malenko, and Jericho) and your most hardcore fans change channels, you know your company is doing something wrong.
WCPW > WCW, no one can change my mind
Frankly, it basically was
why would anyone care to?
McMahon could afford stereotyping his talent and give them tendencies that come along with the stereotypes whichever face or heel, but not like dubyaceedubya, they got absolved of they're sins and passed it down to its competitor.
WCW was truly unlike any other wrestling company
Finger......Poke......Of Doom
Kevin Nash toring the quads also not a Finger Poke of Doom
Thanks 🙏
Did that scissors fight cause 4,000 holes?
I figured that the event they did in North Korea was going to be on this list as well.
The Shockmaster debut.
Oh please, please explain what happened to hardbody Harris after his WCW days......
Oh you want to know what happened to him? He's in prison for life for sex trafficking and forced labor. 😂😂😂
Wait a minute that means Eric Bischoff & His Wife are into Swinging
Wasn't she in another business? ahm!!!ahm!!
He came up with HLA, should you even be surprised?
Sounds like CM Punk's old a lot of things from Hulk Hogan and he's not a big Hulk Hogan fan
Cheers to Eric Bischoff 🥂
I really really really really hate hulk hogan
He was great and he was like Lesnar, when he was motivated nobody could do what he could do but when he was just there to fill the dates and collect cheques he would leave a mess.
Flair wasn't the reason that WCW was winning the Monday Night War. Lets be honest and tell it how it is.
Hard Body Harris/Harrison can't exactly complain about negative stereotypes. He was imprisoned for life for human trafficking.
Not his fault, white supremacy remember... 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Imo, Russo as champ was soooo much worse than Arquette as champ.
About 90% of Cultaholic content is just Hogan bashing
Missy Hyatt used to be fn BEAUTIFUL! what the hell happened
*looks up finger poke of doom*
after booker t called hogan the n word at spring stampeed 97 he would never touch the world title untill hogan walked out the door at bash at the beach 2000
Kevin booked his own divorce brother
Hogan killed WCW
@@k.konczak3291 actually, he did in a roundabout way as his buddies were the top stars and were in complete control over the company
@@k.konczak3291 actually read about who his friends were and what pull they had in the company before spouting crap dumbass
Read Guy Evans’ Nitro book. Very good.
Interesting.
Sid was unlucky arn Anderson was a nasty person i have heard that
Wonder how Nancy's life would have been if she stayed with Sullivan.
4 life boy
People, this channel doesn't do their research evidently because Ric Flair didn't have a problem going to Thunder but since he was at home due to an angle and had plans to attend his young son's AAU wrestling championship, it was a conflict but doable until Eric or WCW management wanted Flair to pay half his travel finances so in a way whatever their policies were back then (if someone could get a hold of it), I would say Ric did violate his contract.
Judging by those names, I don’t think it was their races that were the reason they’re not remembered today
$$$$$ over being let go for being useless to the company
Hey how come you didn’t mention the finger poke of doom?
Read the title 😂
with all due respect to Flair, he was well past his prime in the late 90s and coasted by on just name alone. he was flabby, slow moving, winded, and sweating profusely during matches. he was the no different than Hogan with the ego issues and matches fitting his demands.
I just wanna know why Booker, Ray, Konan, etc weren't involved in the discrimination lawsuit. Seems to me it was underneath guys who weren't that great and couldn't accept MAYBE it was them. Isn't that right around the time Booker was in the main event champion scene, getting the belt put on him?
Lol you forget booker had been in the company up to how many years by that point starting as a tag team wrestler and being buried by the steniers and outsiders even having his bro turn on him , bookers world heavy weight win was definitely a ok you been with us for a while have a shot at the Gold and it clearly came when wcw was at its dieing days
,wcw was racist and those allegations prove it
Booker wouldn’t sue and Konan cause they were some of the few non whites who were paid high , but what do you expect the jobblers or mid caders to do they have family’s they need to take care of
@@aroyewunolabode3896 Doesn't the fact that "non whites" as you put it made it to the top of the card kinda prove my point?
all of them were nobodies and jobbers who had zero shots at titles…Onoo was the biggest among them but even he wasn’t big
@@bostonrailfan2427 That's what I'm saying, there were PLENTY of white guys who were in the same spot on the card as them
🙊🤯👩⚖️👌😍🤩
You should say WWF when it's the Past and WWE when it's the modern day for now on. It's disrespectful to compare WWF to the WWE. Real wrestling fans know the difference.
These scrawny, Whatculture marks who grew up with Cena and WWE propaganda dvds only ever make lists that diss WCW, which is fine, but how often have we seen them sing WCW's praises? Hardly ever and that's sad.
The finger poke of doom and Arquette winning the title just need to be forgotten already. It's fake. It's just a show.
"It's fake. It's just a show." And your point is?
Bad writing and bad business decisions that led to a company going out of business should not be forgotten.
@@alastair852 tell that to Ted Turner
@@alastair852 bro the finger poke of doom wasn’t that bad , don’t you see the interviews between kelvin and hogan after it and thier funny ass sarcastic remarks of the match , was hilarious wcw was just not on power with the wwf at that point , if it had happened let’s say 1997 it would have made for good television fam