Growing Roses from Seed: Collect Hips, Clean and Save Seeds
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2018
- Collect rose hips from your garden, clean, dry and save the seeds - these can be the first steps in growing your own roses. I grow many of my species roses this way, including the Sweet Briar rose, the Scots rose and Rosa rubrifolia. From this stage, you can continue on to cool/moist stratification for 8 to 12 weeks, or you can dry the seeds very well and store them at room temperature. I've had some seeds remain viable after 4 years of dry storage. Maybe you can comment below the video if you've kept them longer.
I also made comment in the video about the "floating" seeds viability, and how some of these are empty. That's my experience, but I also have to say that for some species (notably some of my rugosas) basically ALL of the seeds floated, but I still was able to germinate seeds from the batch. So, your mileage may vary.
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I collected rosehips from roses in the park and along the road in my neighborhood in october, procesed them to your instructions and now I have 5 strong seedlings and 1 weak seedling growing in my basement getting ready for spring. Thank you for your advise and instructions! They have a grow light and a small fan and seem to be happy.
Well done! I'm so happy to hear about your success.
I have just finished a pretty large tub of hips, stripping seed by breaking open and 'scooping'. I am going to raise plants to go into a 60 acre nature reserve adjacent to my property and have about 4 ounces of fresh seed done. I have just rediscovered something I knew as a child [and put to use], those fine hairs in the hips are an excellent itching powder ! it is amazing how far and wide they get spread on you, since as soon as you start itching, you scratch everywhere with sticky hands and spread more hairs. No real problem, but I'm off for a shower and a change of clothes.
Thank you !!! Your helping me so much !! You EXPLAIN things so easy THANK YOU GOD BLESS YOU N FAMILY FOR HELPING SO MANY ROSE LOVERS AND GARDENERS !
Hi! Thank you for the videos on propagating roses by seeds. I found these your videos really useful. Well done!!!
I was looking at my favorite rose bush and wondered if you have a video about rose seeds, and here it is! Thank you so much!!! I am going to collect them as soon as I finish watching your video.
Thanks Jen. Good luck with your seeding
Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
This soaking technique is the same as I learned to use on tomato seeds, except letting them sit longer so the gel coat essentially rots off, clean seeds are at the bottom..
Thanks! I'll be trying this out..
Thank you for this! I love growing from cuttings, but I live in the city and always have to ask strangers if I could take some cuttings. Today, i got some dried hips -- people are less sensitive when I take these than cuttings with blooms.
Best of luck germinating your seeds!
Outstanding video. Thanks much.
Thank you for the video
Very similar to saving tomato seeds, neat!
We were given a number of rose hips of antique roses while on Mackinac Island. After soaking the crushed hips, like in your video and cleaning, I found that all the seeds floated. The rose hips were fresh off the plants and ready, not green. Is this common?
I need some good advice I on how to get my rose seeds to sprout I have tried everything from soaking and keep them in icebox does anyone have any solution
Hi, thank you for these videos. I’m a little confused about your process of soaking the whole hip and cleaning the “mash.” I collected some hips today, broke them open, and the seeds came away very cleanly. Why soak first? Do I still need to soak the seeds after I removed them?
I usually only soak when rehydrating dried hips. If you got clean seeds, no need to soak.
i use hips pulp in tea for vitamin C. so I actually do one hip at a time. lots of seeds and lots of pulp.
Yay. ty
Hello! Thank you for your informative video. I am wondering about the viability of rose hips a few months after they have ripened on a rosebush. I recently collected some hips that were dried up and wrinkly (they were still on their stems) but I figured I should try my luck anyway. I used your method to extract the seeds and the seeds look fine to me (half floated, half sank to the bottom of the cup). If they are indeed viable, would the seeds need as long a stratification period? It's been cold outdoors for several months already. Thank you!
Hi Samantha. Viability shouldn't be impacted by drying out - that's pretty natural. They still need the cold stratification period, though. Something inhibits the process while they're still inside the dried fruit.
what happens if I cross pollinate the same rose (ie on of David Austins - two flowers from the same bush) - will I get the same plant when i germinate seeds from that cross? Or would it be a completely different variety this way? Just thinking is there is an option to grow from seed instead of doing cuttings?
It'll remix the genes and you'll have a related, but not necessarily similar rose.
Hi Jason! I'm from Brazil and I don't speak English very well, sorry. Can you tell me where I can buy fresh rosehip seeds(Mosqueta -Rosa Canina)? I already bought it on Aliexpress but they do not germinate at all even after applying the germination tips. I love your channel and I'm grateful that you also deny the crooks who germinate anything by deceiving people.
Thanks. The suppliers that I have used for rose seeds are Sheffield's and Georgia Vines. I don't think Georgia Vines has R. canina. Sheffield's does, but they enforce a high minimum order value for international orders. Sorry I couldn't be more help
Hi Jason I am new to planting roses. After watching a few of your videos I am excited to start planting my own rose seeds and try to get plants from it. I bought some seeds from Amazon and will try to start now to see if I get things going. Should I start now or wait until November to start? Can I get some ideas please.
I'd probably wait until October or November. If you stratify now (August for anyone reading comments later) they may emerge in Nov/Dec. If you're in the Northern hemisphere, you'd need supplemental light in early growth stages at that time of year
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you Jason I do appreciate it.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Hi Jason, I’ve just collected seeds from the dried hips of Dublin Bay cut from the bush yesterday. Can I stratified them in the fridge now or wait till Nov? At what point is ok to put the germinated seeds outside? I’m in the lower mainland:) Thanks!
What if you only have green hips? My dogs have just about dug up the rose bush that I’ve had for years and I’d like to grow another. Any help would be appreciated.
Growing from seed is slow and you're not likely to get something very similar to the mother plant - if there's still living wood it might be better to take cuttings. Otherwise perhaps start over with a newly purchased rose plant.
First step, when you collect rose hips and break them, and leave the rose hips in the water, for how many days you soak them in the water. Very informative, thanks.
I only soak if I'm dealing with dried hips (to help soften the fruit to release the seeds). If you can remove the seeds without soaking, there's no requirement.
I collected my rose hips in the late autumn and put them whole in the refrigerator in a glass jar. I left them in the frig for 3 months. It is spring now and I want to see if I can have them germinate. Should I clean and separate the seeds as you have demonstrated and then sow them into potting mixture now? Or have i missed an important step by not removing the seeds from the hips before storing them in the frig for stratification?
Hi Janice. If I were you, I might try it both ways. Plant some of the seeds warm, and see if they germinate. Take the other half and stratify (outside the hip). Some of the rose breeders I know have told me that seeds won't stratify properly inside the hips - something about the seeds being insulated from moisture.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm OK I can do this. I would speculate that in nature rose seeds stratify within the hip as a matter of course....isn't that what the hips are for? Humans were not always there to remove the seeds and carefully refrigerate them, right? Anyway, I am grateful for this supportive suggestion and I will do my best! Hopefully I can post a healthy growing rose in a few months time.
@@janiceblakeney9544 in nature rose hips would probably be eaten like most fruits in autumn and winter and the seeds end up deposited in the ground through animal droppings, passing the winter in moist soil, which is what stratification mimics.
Hi..i was away during the summer and collected rose seeds..i dried them fully to bring back with me..i put them in wet paper towel in the fridge for 2 mths..now they're in soil..its been 1 mth and no germination yet..so is it ok to dry rose seeds?do you think my seeds are viablevor better to use fresh seeds..thx
You shouldn't worry that they dried out - I've grown many varieties from dried seeds or even whole dried hips. The viability and cold requirement can vary a lot from the parent plants - for some roses, it's more like 12 weeks of stratification. If I were you, I'd only give them another couple of weeks warm, and then go back to the cold stage for another 4 to 6 weeks. Keep an eye on them in case they begin to sprout in the fridge though.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you
Hi i just dead headed some roses and found some hips, they were green should i have left to turn red ?
Well if you're looking to plant the seeds, then yes
Hi Jason I want to know the medium you are putting the seedlings in once roots are formed
I am excited as this is looking good my seeds seem to be ready to plant as I am in BC Canada and the hip has wintered so the seeds are trying to grow!
Hi Jan. I'm using a composted bark mulch mix.
Can't we sow them directly after collecting from hips or it is necessary to dry them first and after that we can sow them. Please help. Thank you
Drying isn't necessary, but the cold stratification step (2 to 3 months in refrigerated moist vermiculite) is very important in my experience.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much... I will try this time as I have very less success percentage with other methods. Thank you once again.
Hi there, do all rose plants produce Male and female flowers.??
Did you cross pollinate for the seeds or do they form on their own?
Hi Clara. Most rose flowers have both male and female parts on the same flower. Left to nature, bees will cross pollinate fertile roses without your help. If you lend a hand, it would be to choose the parents - and then you're a rose breeder!
Ty so much 😊
I wonder some are broken seeds are babies you need to treat them like babies that are precious and loved
Do you know how low of a temperature seeds can withstand? Sometimes I find hips over the winter when I'm bored and think about germinating them, I figured they are already stratified? Then I wonder if the embryos have frozen.
Hi Kimberly. First, the hips need to rot - while the hips are still intact (either on the bush, or on the ground), the seeds inside don't "feel" the cold, because they're not exposed to consistent moisture. There are germination inhibitors in the pericarp that need to leach out with moisture, cold and time. So even if they've been through a winter, you should always begin with a soak, a clean, and 8 to 12 weeks cold stratification before you can expect germination. I don't think even deep freezing temperatures will threaten the embryo while it's dormant.
Oh that's interesting, the dryness prevents the cold effect. Might go collect some, I think Morden Blush might be worth a shot, nice hips and flower and disease resistance.
@@kimberlyoboyle451 Nice choice - and Morden Blush is on my (very long) wishlist.
Hi Jason, can this apply to knockout roses too?
The same process, yes. I'm not sure how fertile they are, but it's worth a try.
Can I collect rose seeds from grafted roses, and will they grow to be true to the mother plant? Or do I only collect from non-grafted plants to preserve the true variety?
Hi Tanya - it won't make a difference whether the mother was grafted or not. The genes of the top stock are unaffected by the grafting. However, if you're looking to propagate "true" to the parent, it should be by cuttings. That's an asexual technique, and the resulting plants will be clones of the parent. Growing from seed is a sexual (hybridization) technique, and almost always produced a seedling with significant differences from the mother.
After about 7 years and finding your video, I’m going to try to save seeds from my rose bush. Acquired in a 6-pack of mini rosebushes, this one turned out to NOT be mini, AND the blooms go through a color change! Buds are yellow with red edges, then go through multiple shades of yellow, peach, orange, red, and end up white with pink edges when dying. The bush is spectacular with all the blooms going through this process at different times. I have heard that when saving seeds from a bush like this, you may only end up with solid color blooms (the varieties that were used to make this “color change” variety. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think I have a chance of propagating another color changing bush like this? (I originally purchased 2 sets of 6 minis, and all the rest gradually died off.) Thank you for your detailed instruction.
Good luck. I couldn't even guess at the color - that's part of the fun!
I have had the seeds given me but do not no what to do with them
Hi Carol. I mad a video for that too: ruclips.net/video/CTFAVxrG6Pk/видео.html
I have a question about harvesting rose hips for eating/herbalism. (My rosebushes are a pretty traditional rosa rugosa.) Everything I read says hips should be harvested in the fall and ideally after the first frost. But mine go from green to orange (look like tiny orange tomatoes) at the height of *summer*, and if I don't pick them within a few weeks they either shrivel up or turn to mush. They don't make it to fall, let alone to the first frost. (I'm zone 6b/7a, so pretty middling climate.)
Is there something *wrong* with them or is this just normal variation? And if this is normal and they never get bright red -- just orange -- or last 'til the frost, how do I know when they're ready?
I'd definitely ignore the advice about harvesting after frost. Rugosa roses have multiple flushes through the season, and the fruit from an early flush will (as you've observed) definitely ripen well ahead of cold weather in most climates. Harvest when they've reached a good color and as they begin to soften.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you!
I tried them this method last year but they still small, do they take a long time to to be bushes? The flowers will be the same as their mothers? Thanks
Thanks Akram. Yes, it takes several years to really size up. The flowers may be similar to the mother, but probably not exactly the same. Complex hybrids have so many different roses in their ancestry, even a self-pollinated rose can be quite different from the mother.
How well do rose seeds do direct sowed?
Nature has been doing it for a long time! I see little seedlings occasionally beneath some of my species roses (mainly) - they hips would have dropped and rotted in the soil, and then the seeds were cool and moist over the winter. Your best way to replicate would be to remove the seeds from the hips and rake them into a moist outdoor soil in the fall. Then cross your fingers and hope that they don't get eaten by birds, rodents or slugs (after germination). It can definitely be done, I just prefer a more controlled environment.
How to grow roses from seeds if we do that in tropical country (I am from Indonesia and I have some rose hips that I want to grow)
Usually with the help of refrigeration
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm oh i see... thank you
I picked some rosehips from a wild rose bush, and I cleaned them like you instructed in the video, and every single seed floated to the top. The seeds seem tough, though, and not empty. Does this mean they're no good?
Not necessarily. Some species just seem to have light buoyant seeds, so I think they're still worth a try
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks, I appreciate your reply 😊
Can I get rose flower seeds of different types?
Should I scarify rose seeds also
I've never found it necessary.
when you collect your seeds from hips do it on your property over well composted area, they drop then you'll find out if the floating seeds don't work. Yours didn't work, but hey look, they are growing over there! THAT"S how mother nature works!
Why is that, I never get those hips on my Rose plants?
Hmm... so the birds get them first? Or do you prune/deadhead in the season. Most species roses set seed quite nicely.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm
Yep, I understand what you saying,
Need to find out what's the problem here
Well here is another curiosity of mine 🤔
I saw a video of how hybrid Roses make.
But I don't understand here that
Just like Birds help in pollinating,
Then isn't it cross pollination happens here by Birds🐝
So it's hybrid right?
bonne demonstration... mais vous avez gaspiller beaucoup d'eau !!
seems like grinding them around in the metal strainer would damage the seeds.
It's no problem. That's just he seed coat, not the seed itself. A little abrasion of the seed coat is generally helpful to germination - or at least not harmful.
I do not have red rose hips every year they all are green
thom wentworth leave them on the bush till they go red
What is stratification
It's the time that you store seeds cool/moist to simulate winter.
Thanks Frazer valley rose farm for answering my question x
Jeez I just took them directly from the hips, was wondering how to preserve them.
Dry and cool
Why wet them. Why not just crack them open?
Like crack the seed coat individually? Sounds like a lot of work compared to a soak/stratification when dealing with large numbers of seeds... but interesting. Have you had mush success with that method?
Fraser Valley Rose Farm I had the same question. I tore open hips I collected and they don’t even have pulp attached to them. I’m so confused.
What I don’t get is the fact that “in the wild” the rose hips fall off and then the soil gives them enough nourishment to grow some new plants…. Why not do that? How is cleaning and drying so important? ☺️ I’m really curious
This step is only for if you want to save the rose seeds for later controlled germination on your own timing - you can either save the hips whole & dry (which makes them a bit of a pain to remove later, but no big deal) or store them as clean seed. If you want to begin the process of germination right away, you can go directly into the cold treatment step. You're right that in nature the process "just happens" but it happens on its own timing and fairly unreliably and unevenly. Sometimes the seeds will sit in the hips on the bush or on the ground for years before the germination inhibitors in the fruit breaks down enough to allow germination. In the meanwhile, they can be spread around naturally, making it harder to know which are the parent plants. I grow 300+ roses on the farm here and only sporadically do I find seedlings naturally sprouting near what I assume to be the mother.
I am uploading the seeds for you to see I only had 1 hip from my heritage rose and only 3 seeds
Nice video, though I’d like to suggest showing how they are mashed in the first stage.
And how much water was wasted there? Is that drain hooked up to Grey water system? Surely could be collected and used??
Will green hips grow , my roses doesnt have red hips they only turn green with a little bit of yellow ,can I also pick them if they still have sepals or do they need to be without sepals,I have different varieties like Icebergs and the others I'm not sure , and can I pick them in the summer and plant immediately or can I only do it when its winter , please reply or email me at douwjend@gmail.com I'm new to this and I love plants and trying to grow every seed that I can find 🤣
I have watched other videos and read some blogs about planting seeds , some people use ziplock bags and put the seeds in there with a moist paper towel , I tried it and 5 days later I saw that they grew mold , they also say I should use hydrogen peroxide and a water dilute and let them sit over night to be sterilized , I dont know if it works though I didnt do this cleaning step I just did it in a sief like you did but then I got the mold , please email me or reply I'd really like to hear from you
Thanks for the questions. The hips should be orange or red to indicate ripeness. I've never had much luck with seeds from green hips. Once cleaned, the seeds can be stored (dry) until you're ready to put in the fridge. I don't use paper towel for the cold stratification, but vermiculite or perlite (just ever so barely moist). You can sterilize with 3% or 5% hydrogen peroxide for 30 mins with no problem if you want, although I've never found it necessary.
Thanks for your reply , you have one more subscriber now .. but my hips doest turn red nor orange they are just green with a yellow touch to them.. then they rot if I don't pick them they dont turn any other colours, could it be because of some variety , and can I pick the seeds while they seem like getting ripe then just store them , because I'm going on holiday and I really want to plant them.