It takes some balance. I've seen instructors go completely the other way and not have any passion because students invariably leave. "Why should I make an effort if they aren't going to stick around?" Because that's the role you signed up for.
Exactly - it can be painful to be at the 100% passion end of the pendulum swing, but can be self defeating to swing to the 0% passion end too. Some self regulation, the ability to detach the initial emotion, the rationalised emotion and any action, the ability to keep a consistent core identity, and having a more internal locus of control can all help the instructor... Easier said than done though 🤣🤣😅
I am 45 years old, and have been training in Martial arts since 1985, my first being Judo, then Shotokan. I have trained in quite a lot of styles due to moving around a lot, nowadays I train in styles that will improve my all round game, as well as out of interest. I appreciate and understand why people will stay with an instructor , and I feel that I could have possibly stayed with an instructor, but other variables get in the way. Many things being taught from any instructor will always exist in my Martial arts practise. Due to Bruce lees jkd philosophy, and the modern creation of mma, this has created the idea of being and all round Martial artist. I am sure that predominately most Martial arts instructors are appreciated by most students, but there are always other reasons why people move away, and it doesn't always have to do with the standard of teaching abilities
Yes you're exactly right - most often stopping training is a result of changing circumstances, but it's a natural (knee jerk) reaction for the instructor to feel that it's their fault... ...even when it's not! Thanks for your comment, and your impressive training so far 🙏🙏🙏 All the best, Harry
If only my uncle feels the same way I was so dedicated studying self defense with him then he just throw me away saying he doesnt want to teach me anymore it hurts alot if i was that guy student I would worship that instructor in Martial arts
That's not a nice feeling to get, from a family member or not 😕 I hope you manage to find a good teacher who you can have a healthy relationship with - one-sided worship is not a great position to be in either! All the best for your training my friend 🙏
Thanks Tammi, for good instructors and coaches it's almost never their fault the student stops training, but the immediate (internal) feeling is "what did I do wrong???"
I have trained martial arts for 42 years (karate, kobujutsu, Tai Chi and eskrima), most of this time with a single teacher, who I 'followed' from one system to another. I guess it was a matter of trusting his journey and wanting to join him on it. In 2020 he passed away. It was not as if I left him, but I guess he involuntarily left me. It left a huge gap in my life, and I felt that it was time to end all formal training in the systems we had been doing for so long. At this point, we were also no longer affiliated with any larger organization and there was no succession plan. I have since taken the final step in my martial arts career, and started Japanese swordsmanship (a koryu) and been doing that for just over three years. Even though I still feel the loss, this feels like a natural progression.
I am sorry for your loss, and it is totally natural to still feel it to this day (and likely in the future too), because your teacher must have had such a deep effect on your life! Congratulations on continuing your martial arts journey via Japanese swordsmanship - I wish you all the best for continued exploring and finding enjoyment from martial arts 🙏🔥
I left after 17 years because I was moving 625miles for job. I use everything I’ve learned every day. And I miss the training with the others so bad. It’s the only thing I miss from my home town. Watching my training mates progress from afar is like watching a ex partner with a new one.
i COMPLETELY get what you mean - about 15 years ago I moved 300 miles from the best instructor I ever had and it was a significant reason NOT to move... I still miss training at his gym, but I'm also happy of the growth which has happened since then 🙏. I hope you've managed to find somewhere to train at your new location? 🤞
@@FightDad thanks for the support. I moved from Gothenburg and was at Skålberg friend Magnus club. Finding an instructor that matches their standard is hard to find. But im still looking. Until then I do stuff in the garage
Yes this is the PROBLEM with having a great teacher (Johan and Magnus are both great 👌) - all others afterwards aren't as good! This is exactly what I found moving away from Matt Teasdale (who's in Newcastle), I haven't found anyone nearly as high quality... ...so I started a training group of my own... Maybe that's a route for you? Could you find a few training partners to explore together?..
@@FightDad Maybe thats the way. There is no "self-defence" club here in umeå/sweden (only sport martial arts). So maybe I should put some friends together and start one. :)
Sounds like an awesome plan 😎 And if you start as a "training group" or "study group" there's less pressure/it can be informal (if you want to do it that way). And then (again, if you want to) you could upgrade to a class / club / school as you want to None of these choices are irreversible, and if try something and like it - GREAT! If you don't like it - GREAT, now you know, and can try something different 😊
I was talking to a friend a few days ago because our old tkd instructor moved away to start the club again close to where he lives, and my friend who was the same as me we couldnt get to the club was very angry with him with words i wont say here he said all the black belts he taught left him minus 1 thats not good for an instructor, the head of the organisation said the old instructor was the worst instructor in the country i was shocked because he was a 5th dan, so it looked to me like even though i felt like i wasted my time this was a godsend me leaving this club because he kept holding me back just wanting money not caring bout his students...
Sometimes it's much easier to spot that kind of situation from the outside rather than when you're deep in it yourself - I'm pleased it's worked out for you 🙏
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It takes some balance. I've seen instructors go completely the other way and not have any passion because students invariably leave. "Why should I make an effort if they aren't going to stick around?" Because that's the role you signed up for.
Exactly - it can be painful to be at the 100% passion end of the pendulum swing, but can be self defeating to swing to the 0% passion end too.
Some self regulation, the ability to detach the initial emotion, the rationalised emotion and any action, the ability to keep a consistent core identity, and having a more internal locus of control can all help the instructor...
Easier said than done though 🤣🤣😅
I am 45 years old, and have been training in Martial arts since 1985, my first being Judo, then Shotokan. I have trained in quite a lot of styles due to moving around a lot, nowadays I train in styles that will improve my all round game, as well as out of interest. I appreciate and understand why people will stay with an instructor , and I feel that I could have possibly stayed with an instructor, but other variables get in the way. Many things being taught from any instructor will always exist in my Martial arts practise. Due to Bruce lees jkd philosophy, and the modern creation of mma, this has created the idea of being and all round Martial artist. I am sure that predominately most Martial arts instructors are appreciated by most students, but there are always other reasons why people move away, and it doesn't always have to do with the standard of teaching abilities
Yes you're exactly right - most often stopping training is a result of changing circumstances, but it's a natural (knee jerk) reaction for the instructor to feel that it's their fault...
...even when it's not!
Thanks for your comment, and your impressive training so far 🙏🙏🙏
All the best,
Harry
If only my uncle feels the same way I was so dedicated studying self defense with him then he just throw me away saying he doesnt want to teach me anymore it hurts alot if i was that guy student I would worship that instructor in Martial arts
That's not a nice feeling to get, from a family member or not 😕
I hope you manage to find a good teacher who you can have a healthy relationship with - one-sided worship is not a great position to be in either!
All the best for your training my friend 🙏
Love this!
Thanks Tammi, for good instructors and coaches it's almost never their fault the student stops training, but the immediate (internal) feeling is "what did I do wrong???"
“Its the price you pay for giving a shit” ❤
I have trained martial arts for 42 years (karate, kobujutsu, Tai Chi and eskrima), most of this time with a single teacher, who I 'followed' from one system to another. I guess it was a matter of trusting his journey and wanting to join him on it.
In 2020 he passed away. It was not as if I left him, but I guess he involuntarily left me. It left a huge gap in my life, and I felt that it was time to end all formal training in the systems we had been doing for so long. At this point, we were also no longer affiliated with any larger organization and there was no succession plan. I have since taken the final step in my martial arts career, and started Japanese swordsmanship (a koryu) and been doing that for just over three years. Even though I still feel the loss, this feels like a natural progression.
I am sorry for your loss, and it is totally natural to still feel it to this day (and likely in the future too), because your teacher must have had such a deep effect on your life!
Congratulations on continuing your martial arts journey via Japanese swordsmanship - I wish you all the best for continued exploring and finding enjoyment from martial arts 🙏🔥
I left after 17 years because I was moving 625miles for job. I use everything I’ve learned every day. And I miss the training with the others so bad. It’s the only thing I miss from my home town. Watching my training mates progress from afar is like watching a ex partner with a new one.
i COMPLETELY get what you mean - about 15 years ago I moved 300 miles from the best instructor I ever had and it was a significant reason NOT to move... I still miss training at his gym, but I'm also happy of the growth which has happened since then 🙏.
I hope you've managed to find somewhere to train at your new location? 🤞
@@FightDad thanks for the support. I moved from Gothenburg and was at Skålberg friend Magnus club. Finding an instructor that matches their standard is hard to find. But im still looking. Until then I do stuff in the garage
Yes this is the PROBLEM with having a great teacher (Johan and Magnus are both great 👌) - all others afterwards aren't as good!
This is exactly what I found moving away from Matt Teasdale (who's in Newcastle), I haven't found anyone nearly as high quality...
...so I started a training group of my own...
Maybe that's a route for you? Could you find a few training partners to explore together?..
@@FightDad Maybe thats the way. There is no "self-defence" club here in umeå/sweden (only sport martial arts). So maybe I should put some friends together and start one. :)
Sounds like an awesome plan 😎
And if you start as a "training group" or "study group" there's less pressure/it can be informal (if you want to do it that way).
And then (again, if you want to) you could upgrade to a class / club / school as you want to
None of these choices are irreversible, and if try something and like it - GREAT! If you don't like it - GREAT, now you know, and can try something different 😊
I was talking to a friend a few days ago because our old tkd instructor moved away to start the club again close to where he lives, and my friend who was the same as me we couldnt get to the club was very angry with him with words i wont say here he said all the black belts he taught left him minus 1 thats not good for an instructor, the head of the organisation said the old instructor was the worst instructor in the country i was shocked because he was a 5th dan, so it looked to me like even though i felt like i wasted my time this was a godsend me leaving this club because he kept holding me back just wanting money not caring bout his students...
Sometimes it's much easier to spot that kind of situation from the outside rather than when you're deep in it yourself - I'm pleased it's worked out for you 🙏
@FightDad thankyou it has worked out right for once and others have noticed how much of a shitshow it was, onwards and upwards is the saying..
Hmmm, if his student made much progress doesn't mean that much was accomplished
Good video, but when I saw the subject of the video was 'marital arts' I thought it was an Only Fans video
I hadn't even seen that! 🤣😅😅😅 Thanks! But do I correct it, or leave it as a talking point?.. 🤔