Kirk Franklin On Discovering Biological Dad At 53, Birth Mom Denying It & Secrets At Black Churches
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2023
- Kirk Franklin On Discovering Biological Dad At 53 & Birth Mom Denying It
"It has shaken my world. Even now, I am still shooketh. I am still in the middle of the impact of that car wreck. And Deborah still denies it... I have not talked to her since."
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This is why paternity tests should be mandatory, married or not.
They are required in SC if the Mom needs social services
This is mandatory in Illinois if the mother needs welfare.
I agree. So many men have missed out on relationships with kids they did not know they had.
I met my biological father in 2021 at the age of 37 years old. I totally understand his situation.
Do u have a relationship with him and was he welcoming to u?
But to claim to be save not to forgive is not to saved at all.
@marman3382 To be honest, it's hard to forgive when you're in the situation. Whether you're into highly religious or not. Throughout life, you will have to process whether to forgive for a number of crazy situations. It's hard my guy.
@@marman3382unless you lived it, it’s easy to write that in the RUclips comments, champ.
@@roxyj3182 no didn't meet my till I was 32, his other son found me on Facebook.
My dad was one of 10 children and he was the only one put up for adoption. His adopted parents were a godsend but at the age of 71 he still struggles. Kirk's story has helped him ❤. Great interview Shannon.
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Man that hurts...I don't think there's enough lifetimes that can heal that wound. Sending love to him ❤
No no no... you don't question God. Look at your career Mr Franklin. Look at how many people your music has touched. Your life went EXACTLY how God meant it to go and it is a testimony. Please don't question God. Thank him for all the things he kept you from that you did not even see. Your testimony is a blessing.🙏
@@jelx1107This is not related to the comment about this woman's father 😂 whatttt
Please know you can forgive someone and not want to ever be in the same space with them again. You can forgive people who has wronged you and not ever want to put yourself at risk of their behaviors.
Yesss‼️‼️
Sure can ...forgiveness does not require friendship!
Easier said than done. From my own personal experience
@@TaySaidSo 🎯
Please know forgiveness is a process. It's not always an instantaneous thing.
I'm so honored to experience our men to have such an open,vulnerable conversation about REAL life!
Y'all still don't care. Pay attention femalessss are the source. When y'all gon change y'all ways
Maybe Shannons most powerful and important conversation yet
Ric Flare interview was a good one as well
This excerpt is the epitome of transparency. The pain is evident. It's a lot to take in and process for Kirk. Sending loads of love.🫶🏾
Kirk said... can I get a little bit mo on the height? 🤣🤣
Mr Shay Shay Was Being Messy!!😂
That's a really deep conversation. Kirk Franklin's vulnerability is very touchy and amazing.
I can relate to everything Kirk is saying. I met my biological father at age 29. Although I was happy, I knew it wasn't going to be peaches and cream because we spent time getting to know one another. During the time, he fell ill and died 3 years ago from kidney failure at the ripe age of 75. But I did get the answer I was looking for which was he always wanted to be in my life, but my mom was the one that stopped it. Therefore, I understand Mr. Franklin better.
🙏🏿
I love the way Shannon conducts interviews. He’s asking all the questions I wanted to ask. I can completely relate to his battle with God. The good news about this battle is that God will show up and turn this in Kirk’s favor. So many people needed to hear his testimony for this own healing. Praying for healing for Kirk and his family. ❤
I 100% agree with Shannon, when he told Kirk, "You can't blame her for giving you up, when she was 15-years-old, because most 15-year-old girls can't even take care of themselves."
However, that 15-year-old, eventually became a 25-year-old, a 35-year-old and a a 45-year-old, who had to want to know what became of their child and more.
That's where I blame her.
She was old enough AND knew the truth where she could have contacted Kirk and told him the truth.
Even if she didn't know Rick was Kirk's dad, she should have openly asked Mr. Rick to swab, just to find out, when the rumors started.
That's where I hold blame.
This is one of the most honest, transparent interviews I have ever watched. Shannon Sharpe I appreciate you for always keeping it real on Club Shay Shay and I respect Kirk Franklin for bearing his soul. Blessings from The Bahamas gentlemen🙏🏽
Just when you think you’re alone and your feelings are unique, you hear that someone is having the same thoughts and feelings as you.
You know what I hate about all this is that nobody holds women like his mom accountable and there’s a lot of them out here old and young going unscathed because they’re females meanwhile men get dragged constantly
Bro I swear.
Yet women will argue we live in a patriarchy when they’re never held accountable and they NEVER accept any accountability. It’s laughable……This is also why paternity test should be mandatory, whether you’re married or not…..
Man there was a few cases on paternity court just like this. The mothers don't show up because of shame.
They weren't healed enough to be on your journey at that time. God was there.
This a powerful, transparent conversation as a man, as a person. Thank you for sharing this conversation. It can help so many peel back their layers, understand their internal struggles and know they aren't alone. powerful
That momma has a story too...thank you Kirk for sharing this story. I understand it completely
A story she didn’t have the decency to share with her son. I believe she has denied the DNA tests to this day. No accountability.
It was divine process how Kirk came to know who his biological father was. Not by coincidence.
His mom is so embarrassed she can’t find it.. the guilt has consumed her thoughts.. especially being a teen mom at the time.. I feel so bad for Kirk.. and all those who are looking for answers! 😢
Excellent discussion! Shannon Sharp has become amazing at hosting these discussions and Kirk Franklin has come into his own! These men are doing middle age beautifully.
I loved this.
This is such a powerful conversation!!
I'm Kirk Franklin's #1 Fan. Have been for over 20 years. Wish I could meet him one day. I pray that God continually bless him and his family with more love in Jesus mighty name.
Have an open mind when you take those DNA test. Ancestry, or 23 and Me you might find some secrets you're not ready for.
I found out about my biological father at 53 too, it makes you feel like you’ve been lied to all your life. In my case all persons involved are gone now. I feel bad for the man who raised me, he was also lied to.
I can truly see the sovereignty and the grace of God in helping Kurt Franklins healing process. Giving him deliverance in levels of his life. Removing generational trauma, curses, rejection and egotism. Because pain he bares is carried by his mother also. Now that he has started the process of therapy to speak openly about his experiences and mental anguish. He and his biological mother will eventually communicate about her pain filled emotional baggage. Fear, denial, pride, embarrassment or feelings of guilt. God will be glorified in Kurt’s Testimonies because he will eventually be made whole. And the demons chained to his bloodline will be set free. He just has to take the deed and title back to his life as a healed and healthy man. Then his soul can be restored as psalms 23 proclaims. Amen Kurt 🙏🏿
Kudos to Shannon for having a platform to share his wisdom he gained from his painful experience as well. Beauty from the Ashes.
No judgment. Deborah is not ready, to be honest with herself, let alone speak on it. Prayers to Kirk, and stay in therapy.
Ready..... 50something years what if she dies today she is the mother write him an apology I think she can't speak it but he needs it to heal she needs counsel to know it's no longer about her lie it's about him healing
She knew who the father was mo likely. You know who you been with.
Honest conversation
Man.... By far, one of the BEST podcast that You've done Unc... Truly awesome! 👏🏾❤👍🏾👊🏾
Shannon is great in this interview. He has given great advise.
To think about all the different emotions that he must have and still continues to have, to maintain any sort of sanity among the madness, is truly such an amazing thing, I have nothing but the upmost respect and love for Kirk!
This interview was very touching..So many people go through similar situations,however due to Kirk’s celebrity it’s his platform to use as he wishes to go through his journey of healing and forgiveness..He is my favorite gospel artist and to minister through music and still help so many by his music and now this is definitely Gods way of using his testimony to encourage or inspire others..I pray he stay in therapy and I know his biological mom is dealing with her issues too..Lord God I pray for both of them..
My father never wanted a relationship with me. And years later I have met my brother and his children. Most of them have openly accepted me, but I struggle the relationship.
Oh my God! The wisdom from Shannon on Kirk reaching out to his mom was powerful! God bless them both.
This is probably one of the most profound and insightful interviews ever.
This might be the best interview of the year!❤
What people don’t understand, is that forgiveness doesn’t mean reconciliation. You can forgive, but you can also
choose to not deal with people/persons and the like for your own peace and peace of mind.
Awesome interview, Shannon!!!
This is why the gospel of GRACE is so important in the church, God knows our challenges but he doesn’t hold them against us as his children.
Shannon is stepping on Kirk’s bare feet with metal spiked cleats about repairing the relationship with his mother. I can 100% promise you Kirk was not trying to hear that during this interview. With that said Shannon is correct.
This is therapy !!! 🔥🔥🔥 only at club Shay Shay !!!
The best thing Kirk can do is forgive, and embrace the healing and gifts that will come with that.
I feel like his mom should be ashamed of herself, not just because she keeps denying those DNA tests and keeps going with it she still is not trying to build that relationship with her child or at the very least answer those questions Kirk has.
Shame. She don't know how to deal with it.
Shannon is the Modern Arsenio Hall + Oprah + Jay Leno !
Jesus!!! The transparency!!!!
They pain is real 💯
I understand Kurt. My mom not in my life and we got distant when my dad died. She does more for others then me, so I understand a lot❤😢
Shannon is a lot smarter than I ever knew. He said to reach out to heL you..not her. That's powerful. That's how he will be able to move on
I've always felt Kirk is probably the greatest gospel musician ever. Great interview.
I love this show.
Man, these Kirk clips are fantastic
Super engaging!
As long as you give power to things and events outside of yourself, you will also give those things power to determine how you feel. Living in the present is one of the most powerful things you could do because tomorrow is already gone and the future never comes. Peace, love, and forgiveness is the ultimate healing medicine.
Damm Shannon ,you are Kicking it out of the Park, God Bless you man ,you're potential is powerful, even do your not a Cowboy's fan ,🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏keep it real My man,
27 and I still haven’t met my father tbh I’d like to meet him just to see what type of man he his to his other kids if he has any, then part of me doesn’t want to meet him at all due to all those nights as a kid wishing I knew my dad and had my mom in my life. My aunt raised me from a baby till I was 18.
I would love to see Kirk's movie Shannon. About his life.
That brother need to get that produced.
The depth of this is so deep. I will add this in my opinion GOD is so loving and giving that the freedom of choice comes into play here Kirk describes his view and understanding but those individuals (his mother and father) not being in a committed relationship allowed for this. Understanding the power and responsibility of having seed and where you plant it matters. GOD bless Kirk
There are so many ppl that don't know who their real parents are due to whatever reason. I'm glad Kirk was able find out who his biological father is.
He is so open and honest. A lot of people are struggling with the same family issues 😢❤️🩹
Man this is a CRAZY story very sad!
I met my dad at 3years ago at 37 honestly i get him my mom was a blessing bless her she did everything to try and make us connect but it took time and i guess Gods timming is always the best when i met him i decided to meet him when everyone say how was it your reaction its just what he say i was not looking for a dad sad this happens to a lot of people but time does heal you
kirk gotta have that same faith he sing's about, and have that controlled sit down if it still effecting his life about the pain from why his mother handle their situtaion the way she did. wish him the best and hope he will be set free, from his pain
That was the best advice for Kirk Franklin to consider counseling together with his mother with a view toward his mother coming to faith in God through Jesus Christ.
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I think Kirk is scared of another rejection from his mother. That's why he's hesitant to open the door to offer therapy with her. I understand completely.
God bless you, my brother! I know all about the wars with God. However, He has given you a wonderful gift that glorifies Him. You have every reason to be proud of everything you have come through! An absent father is much better than an abusive one. Keep on keeping on, young man! God got you always! ❤️🙏💞👑🎶🥰
Here Mr. Kirk 🤗
True be told we all have this story and people told us to get over it. And then came you❤
😮😮😮😮 Im gooooone..
Wow that's powerful I wasnt looking for a father and he wasn't looking for a son.
It was good to get some more color into the story on Kirk’s journey to finding his biological father. It’s crazy how Debra is still denying it after all this time! Sadly, so many people can relate to this story. Back in the day, a lot of this went on. DNA doesn’t lie though!
Forgive and keep going. Forgive your mama and keep going 🙏🏾 ✨️ ❤️
100% agree. This interview saddened me. We call ourselves Christians but don't walk it out.
@@302ec What do you mean by "We call ourselves Christians but don't walk it out"? Are you questioning Kirk's Christian walk?
@@roots1458 It's not for me to question his faith in God. I was saddened because our Christian brother missed an opportunity to share/show the love of God through forgiveness. He could have inspired thousands to forgive.
@302ec I totally agree with you. When a person holds unforgiving, it can be hurtful to a lot of people. Kirk Franklin, before he dies, I pray that he will forgive his mother. Forgiveness is the keys to all things and being happy with oneself. I am talking about what I know, not what I have heard. When a person forgives, they will feel so much better.
Peace love healing and prosperity 💙💪🏾
For the ppl who have this deep scar what hurts sooo much about it is you GROWN when you learn. Now you got all these lil boy feelings and 💩 that you aint plan or ask for just DIGGINNN at you and if the woman(YOUR MOTHER) continues to lie. Mannn the feeling of your heart emptying out is unforgettable. Very surprised he took it there.
Why can't Deborah own up to it????? Man even 50+ years ago women was triflin.... how tf we supposed to expect them to be ANY better now with the way the world is. If you have a good/decent woman.... Hold onto her.... fr.
This is why female empowerment is crucial. We can’t just judge this lady based on our MODERN perspective and understanding, you have to think about what a 15 year old was doing with a child in the first place…. Then think about the pressure a woman faced BACK THEN ! No one is the “villain” in this story, it’s just a loop / chain that had/has to be broken! Scares people in tough spots making momentary decisions that become everlasting! May God Guide All! ❤
Kirk your mother is toxic you need to heal separately from her
Seeing the pain in his eyes 😢 Kirk’s story hits home in a major way ❤
I agree when Shannon says Kirk needs to hav a therapy session with his mom
I can see why he would be mad at his mother
I think his mother didn't know who the father was so in her mind Dwight was the father. She's in denial and most likely don't know how to handle the situation, remember she was 15 when she got pregnant so most likely she's got her own trauma from being pregnantat that age. Shannon is right Kirk should reach out to Debra.
Debra is emotionally dangerous to Kirk. He has no obligation to reach out to a woman who only adds to his pain with each interaction. No one has to volunteer to be a punching bag, even if the offender is "broken."
His mom’s denial is heartbreaking and infuriating! If Kirk’s conception was not consensual (which is possible) then why doesn’t Debra just say that! (Rant over)
Thanks for adding your own story line. Maybe Kirk mom was freedom fighter in South America and to give him up bc he was too heavy to carry through the mountains.
@@ttill438😂😂😂
I hope Kirk connect with Tyler Perry and make a movie out of this at some point..So many storylines in this ..I see forgiveness,betrayal,his celebrity, and so many other messages to help the believers and non believers..
I wonder why the first guy wasnt tested. I guess he took his mom's word for it.😢😮
1970, pregnant 15 year old, taking a DNA test wasn't a thing back then.
This dude is very emotional
Looking at these two side by side makes me realize how big athletes are. By the way....... Unc are you ever gonna get Hollywood to twerk on here for us one time 😂😂😂
God is a father to the fatherless, mother to the motherless. That older lady gave you a foundation. You have to be Kirk then to be Kirk now! You had to be without your dad to get to where you at now. You always had to depend on God!
I saw bring his mother on the show to interview her!!! Would be amazing watch
He needs to talk to his biological mother and learn her story
I don't know.... I think Mr. Rick knew...
The way his biological mom reacted to the results are shifty. Maybe that man is not the father and another man in his bloodline is.
Wow!!!! This could actually be a possibility? So messy wow. I never knew that
Now how many children and men are victims of paternity fraud?
I had a daughter at 15. It’s hard!! It’s so hard raising a child at 15. So so very hard. You aren’t even an adult yourself. Barely know right from wrong.
Who is Sharon father
I think Kirk should open that door to both biological parents and have a REAL conversation with them. It’s not a conversation to “attack” either parent just like he said. I’m not sure how honest they will be but at least he gets to hear their side of the story. Kirk, May not feel like he’s interested but he may feel differently later and it may be too late. Either way, it’s easier said than done.
In transparency I do empathize on how Kirk feels, however if Kirk had all of what he desired growing up, (Parents) he wouldn't be the "Kirk Franklin". His pain ushered his purpose. His pain allowed him to journal and write. His pain brought an upbringing which allowed him to learn to play instruments and sing. His pain has brought many people to Christ, and that is what living is all about. Our purpose is to win souls, not our own personal enjoyment. "Kirk is in his promised land...but cannot enjoy it because he is still holding on to Egypt. "
Our purpose isn't ushered in through our pain. Kirk's purpose was predestined by our Holy Father. His difficult childhood definitely shaped his character and outlook on life but our purpose is ordained by God. Remember Jeremiah 29:11
I find it very sad that you believe children growing up in a healthy and loving home as 'personal enjoyment'.
There are plenty of Gospel artists who grew up in loving and Christian homes. Our God calls us to love and protect our children ALWAYS.
It is one's parental duty.
All in all, it wasn't his pain that brought people to Christ. It was God's redemption of Kirk which translated into his music that brought people to Christ.
Let us not give pain and suffering too much credit in shaping our Christianity
@@gladyskihara4736 Hello. I don't mind correction, I'm just trying to understand the difference in what we are saying , maybe I worded it wrong, idk, however all I'm saying is that the pain he went through had a bigger purpose.
@@TheAnijha1 You saying his pain brought people to Christ is false. You saying his pain ushered in his purpose is false. It was God who ushered in his purpose. It was God working through Kirk Franklin that brought people to Christ. Pain had absolutely nothing to do it.
I agree that your wording was the problem
As I said earlier, our Christianity is what shapes our lives. Suffering and pain are constant and doesn't end but it is through our walk in Christ that we overcome it. Our pain definitely shapes our character and teaches us humility. That is the only role it plays.
My issue with your first comment is that it seemed you exalted Kirk's painful childhood instead of his faith in God as to why he is a successful Christian artist.
You didn't acknowledge God in shaping Kirk but claimed it was his pain that did so
I pray he forgive his mother for her wrongdoings. For his self and gets therapy he needs. His mom is denial and Shannon said he needs to be in control setting.
Kirk AND Shannon has to understand that THIS interview may indeed be for the benefit of not only THEM, but OTHERS!
There are individuals watching this video on both sides of the spectrum:
1. There are people out there, right now, who have no idea who their biological mother and/or father are!
2. There are mothers AND fathers out there, right now, who KNOW the TRUTH and for whatever reason is keeping that truth secret, at best, or flat out continuing to LIE, at worst!
THIS video may indeed motivate either of the aforementioned to step out on faith and either, tell the truth, or seek answers.
Shannon had to turn into a therapist on the spot
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Rapper from Texas
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@@TwillzDGawd lol