I find Schopenhauer the greatest observer that has ever lived. I, myself, had a 180 degree turn in life, from optimist to realistic/pessimistic. My favorite book of all is words of wisdom. It was delightful to have come to some of the same conclusions that he had about life. I’ve been depressed for 3 and half years now, and back to contemplating suicide again. I have tears in my eyes right now, but at least I know I’m not fooling myself with superstitions. P.S.: I don’t know if I rather be where I’m at right now, or if I would be better of being ignorant. Life really is suffering.
I'm so deeply sorry for you. I have had such a happy life - but it was only my religious faith propping it up. Now that that's gone, my will to life has abdicated. Knowing that each and every moment was an illusion is more heartbreaking than I can say. Being born was a fucking mistake.
I would say that life is like a game. Though it is inexorable that limitation is its sole material, the player can, in my own supposition, allow themselves to engage in it. If existence in pragmatic totality is aseptic to the individual, it should not matter if the individual chooses to engage within the game, or derive perception of its putrescent recrudescence. My friend, for the sake of sparing innocents suffering, I would recommend to keep playing...
I would rather be free of all delusions than live in ignorance. Although, that requires staring directly at existence without any rose tinted glasses. Of course, this does not entail a happy life. At the very least, some solace can be found in the fact that you know exactly what is causing the perpetual suffering of life, compared to the melancholy feelings of someone that is living in ignorance.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
Everything we enjoy is pleasure, which lasts temporarily and thus pain and boredom takeover, even the delight in a single thought is the senses in reality after we have realised it is so to speak a "thought" as you label it!
Unfortunately, I cannot find any reason to disagree with Schopenhauer. You might not like his assessment of the human condition, but on which points is he wrong?
FiniteAutomaton It sounds to me that your are making a case for relative happiness. I think the video is trying to state that there is no ultimate happiness in finite existence. Also you seem to be making the claim that all we are is conscious mammals. It may be true. Not an axiom though because consciousness is mysterious.
Lostintime - I used to read Nietzsche under the assumption that he was right and thus Schopenhauer was obsolete. On a whim though, I decided to read Schopenhauer directly, from page 1 to the end... boy Nietzsche was so wrong. As Schopenhauer himself said, we get incalculable benefit from reading someone directly. Secondhand commentary is a necessary evil, and I couldn’t start most things without commentary. But this meme is wrong about Nietzsche “dunking” on Schopenhauer. The only true problem, which Bertrand Russell claimed and Schopenhauer himself admitted to: Schopenhauer was nothing like his own ideal Buddha’s & saints and other “deniers of the will.” But even here, Schopenhauer said many times that his personal life wasn’t admirable by his own standards. I think the real “problem” with Schopenhauer is that he is correct about things people wish he wasn’t: 1) the conventional worldly human idea of a “good life” is a dangerous illusion, and 2) the Buddhas and Jesuses of the world WERE in fact pessimists when it came to this worldly idea and WERE SPECIFICALLY advocating abandonment of most of the ‘precious’ belongings these worldly people value to gain full liberation. We see in this era, too, much revisionism and blind optimism about Buddha and Jesus: ‘Jesus was just saying to live by the golden rule, Buddha just said to be mindful and loving’, etc etc etc, conveniently ignoring all their teachings on abandonment and anti-hedonism.. a timeless tension
Great video. Thank you. Also love to read the comments under videos about Schopenhauer. Harbor of intelligence on this ocean of stupidity that we call the internet.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
Does anyone else feel like Schopenhauer is the Jedi while Nietzsche is the sith.
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***** both Jedi and Sith would be positivists (with Schopenhauer being the pessimist/negativist). Even the Sith suffer from the "vanity of existence", and are narcissists, with a well-defined worldview which they seek to impose on others, build empires, etc. Good or Evil, they are still engaging with the world with no consideration for analyzing their engagement, their brief lifespans, etc.
Yes, Schopenhauer's philosophy advocates contemplation, compassion, moderation and humility, while Nietzsche advocates a will to power, to become an overman, disregard of universal moral values in order to create one's own, a distaste for "slave morality". Indeed, Schopenhauer was a Jedi Master, and Nietzsche was the student who turned to the dark side.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
He has more to say. He also states that a few, very few, have gone on to deny the will, to be compassionate but indifferent to the world and existence. Realizing the futility and redundancy these few witness the menagerie as the illusion it is. “ It is so Grasshopper.”
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
Consciousness would never had been a problem if we lived in a reality worth existing in. Regard it as life simply stopping for a moment and finally understanding what it is. First we tried to find something more than reality - some kind of spiritual answer that would transcend life. After that we tried to change nature with science only to find that this world, by its nature was fucked from the start. We've been trying to build a paradise on a foundation of garbage. If those animals out there could understand what we do, they would stop reproducing immediately out of sheer disgust. But, understanding and knowing this world, that revolting gift has fallen to us. Consciousness is not the problem - the ridiculous natural conditions it is placed under is.
@@Firespectrum122 Damn. I couldnt describe it better. We look at animals but no other animals have consciousness. The fact is the fact that we ar conscious of our existence might be a big mistake. Thats why many people either work too hard or do drugs to forget about it.
Schopenhauer is a greater influence on culture than any modern philosopher, though many would not agree. They'd be wrong; Einstein, Darwin, and Freud are only a few of the heavy hitters who have admitted his importance. Add Joseph Campbell, Nietzsche, Kafka, and Wagner. And the list goes on and on.
When you lose your desires there isn't much left. At least those who have a sex drive will have something to keep them busy for a while. I struggle to be interested in anything. Not much gives me a kick anymore. Like Schopenhauer staring into the mere emptiness of existence.
There isn't any point to be here only wake up to repeate the same cycle see the same humans who only iflicted in you suffering and pain and whom you hated . Only suffering
With you on that Steve... " were different it would be the same; " This is a contradiction. If something is different, it is by definition not the same! I think what he might have been asserting is that you can't change reality because of its entropy, and you can't change life because it requires the use of breeding and eating because of that very entropy. The will, the thing itself, and being the consequence of the finite nature of the universe, can only perpetuate itself by means of what we have now. The individual is an emphatic assertion of that will. It is opposed to a state of equilibrium and needs constant help from without in order to exist. For the individual to have any hope of existing, and these needs met regarding the continual help from without, no one would be born or live without the will. Thus they are inseparable. It would be nice if it was different. However, I can't picture anything different that wouldn't destroy the concept of a conscious mind. It would be like a microprocessor with no clock. Simply single a state of being very much like a rock, or a sheet of paper. I don't think that if Steve doesn't stare like a bewildered ape at the stars that he is a fake pessimist.
It is always dangerous to say out loud: our birth is a huge accident by bumbling humans doomed to be blown this way and that by winds of fate without a God caring anymore about humans then leaches , pigs or dung beetles . Any human that is NOT a misanthrope is not paying attention or not honest .
what is empty to one may be full to another. but both are connected to the processes, which will exist regardless of interpretation. Therefore what is the point of interpreting that which cannot be transcended, because of its mechanical nature? The point is only in the person who thinks there is a point. But can the point be found outside the person? No, because man is the point for himself. He squares his own circle. But the circle does not need him to exist. His meaning is merely an attempt to superimpose another type of existence onto that which already exists. He rejects that which exists and thus would like something that corresponds to his yearning for explanation beyond appearance. The appearance to him is not enough. He needs explanation to replace the appearance.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
His talk of god ,according god nothing of a stone shall be in our way to fall at,RATHER ALL UNIVERSE,from that S. Talk of a god that in coprice clap his own creating and explain everything to be god,on earth,in spite of a world full of misery and distress,THAT WILL NOT DUE AT ALL:Schopenhauer
Can someone explain me how he discovers such deep stuff but feels the need to categorize it as something negative? I mean i dont want him to be positive but the other seems as meaningless
And so why continue? (and this question is not being familiar with Schopenhauer's complete works). The obvious to many he states, but the answer to why one should keep going or to live out one's lifespan when all is futile, seems left unanswered. Why did he, personally, and obviously live to be such an old age and why did he bother to write anything down if all is meaningless? Also there are some things left out, like homosexuality (which in his time has no definition), or the satisfaction of a good, loving partnership shared with another in a life.
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I think it’s possible that the great philosophers are those who possess 2 traits. 1. They are clinically depressed, such that, regardless of life circumstances, they are pessimistic, bitter and generally incapable of happiness. 2. They are highly intelligent and articulate. This allows them to spread their inner demons to so many people. I’m not saying Schopenhauer is wrong, just that his suffering probably stems from a chemical imbalance or otherwise medical deficiency. Unfortunately, I tend to agree with his main points. Damn it!
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
I very strongly disagree that "his suffering probably stems from a chemical imbalance or otherwise medical deficiency". He was a very highly intelligent realist!
Maybe you just don’t like the hard truth. So you accuse him of sickness when he honestly lays out the unvarnished ugly truth . Humans want a mental escape to the stress of being born by thoughtless dumb humans into a painful life with death waiting . All about breeding , sex drive to make more apes that wear clothes.
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Emptiness is das truth because truth is empty. Empty of what ? Empty of its own individual existence because everything is interbeing and nothing is being. There is no such thing as The thing in itself Because everything has 2 sides like night and day, life and death, yin and Yang.
Friedrich Nietzsche would snap the shit out of him this dude lived in pure hell1800 and was writing quote level highshool teenager girl ....he wastn able to see the real horror he was part off it. he couldnt do nothing that must raging for him to have to close his eyes the worst thing an human can do period closing itself! it hurt as well other than yourself !!! he talk about finding trhu love in oneself. just take 30 seconde and reaize who this guys is or and what kind of parasit ideas was floating in is body and mind
( LOOK AND YOU'L SEE) those may feellike dumb words but look DEEEEPEERRR every words have an infinity of story in them what a sad man:(. you have to open yourself to the horror of what its is being alive those are connecting your soul to every trauma that man women beast every little tthing as felt in the entire cosmos from the begining off time!!! the knowlege past from it our ancestor is cosmic its like getting upload.. open your self up!!!!!! :S let yourself cry revel the baby that is scare as hell its hard dude... remove that name that someone gave you the burden of the past.. we are not suposed to be named.. there is signes to help people lost to wake up absollutly everywhere beause is something that come and go you have to stay whorty ... mankind have so many kind amd wise champion everywhere this is something that happen absolutely everywhere on eart! this is not some easthern stuff its way to simple and lazy to see trhu thislens... there is help everywhere its so obvious and sad .. our body itself it's one fat signe right under you nose.. every movie/story joke it is leterally in the language those uncounsciouss part that need to get fired up. it's literally like the univers itself is looking at us in the eyes screeming WAKE THE FUCK UUUUUPP! but alot can't or refuse open the self ....... life is aplay grand in pure feeling fueld by imagination! any king of feeling the worst and the good! a deep understanding of who being i mean is obligatory you have this duty tonot reproduct wasyour ancestor did BY LOOKING IN THE ABYSS IS WHERE LAY WHAT WE HIDE it can be an eperience TRAUMATIC what is a trauma is something that need to be deeplyanalyse as an individual to connect to the horror of our colective unCounsciouness heritage! or you will miss the point THe opressor and the opressed we are bot ! everyone can see it you need to acept it but evyrone is on their heroes jourey look for perfection and order the roots of evil he is a sad man it sad. find the roots of evil its a hell of a drive you will cry because that the only human thing to do cry and work your empathy
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(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the Holy Quran). Thank you.
"Schopenhauer has quite a crude mind... where real depth starts, his comes to an end" - Ludwig Wittgenstein "Schopenhauer, by the way, is referenced twice in Mein Kampf" - James Harting, Stormfront forums. The guy obviously has many many issues.
+Earthling THX-1138-4EB So you discard Schopenhauer because Wittgenstein was unable to fully comprehend his philosophy, while also being associated with Nazism through Hitler? Schopenhauer stands on his merits, not others.
All Hail Sir Microcosm Doesnt matter if you believe Witt couldn't comprehend. Schoop's philosophy was used in a 'bad' way - but yet - he didn't expect that?! Whatever. His 'merits' are pathetic. Oh and he didn't die in an apparent, horrible suffering way. Died peacefully on a couch. So even his own philosophy didn't count on him. I know that's a bit low, because how can anyone know the suffering he endured on that couch, but you see what I mean? And how come, most of the people who have near death experiences always say it was 'bliss'? Yes yes, some say it was horrible - low number though - and I realise there's more variables to take in with that argument.
Earthling THX-1138-4EB You reminded me of Bertrand Russell's commentary on Schopenhauer. How Schopenhauer lived, or how other's used his philosophy, does not negate its validity. Wittgenstein was also a rather nasty person to be around. What does that say for his philosophy? Nothing. Now take your sophistry and sod off.
Earthling THX-1138-4EB I'm not bitter at everything or everyone. Just crass optimism and stupidity. It's not my fault the vast majority of people are these things.
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All I know is that Arthur is a friend of mine.
He's helped me accept what I know.
+Noah Namey Yeah, Schopenhauer is the philosopher who really got me into philosophy.
+Noah Namey same here.
I would also recommend Alan Watts. (his spoken word on RUclips)
Me too.
Noah, then I'd presume you also are a glass half
empty kind of guy.
I find Schopenhauer the greatest observer that has ever lived.
I, myself, had a 180 degree turn in life, from optimist to realistic/pessimistic.
My favorite book of all is words of wisdom.
It was delightful to have come to some of the same conclusions that he had about life.
I’ve been depressed for 3 and half years now, and back to contemplating suicide again.
I have tears in my eyes right now, but at least I know I’m not fooling myself with superstitions.
P.S.: I don’t know if I rather be where I’m at right now, or if I would be better of being ignorant.
Life really is suffering.
I'm so deeply sorry for you. I have had such a happy life - but it was only my religious faith propping it up. Now that that's gone, my will to life has abdicated. Knowing that each and every moment was an illusion is more heartbreaking than I can say. Being born was a fucking mistake.
I would say that life is like a game. Though it is inexorable that limitation is its sole material, the player can, in my own supposition, allow themselves to engage in it. If existence in pragmatic totality is aseptic to the individual, it should not matter if the individual chooses to engage within the game, or derive perception of its putrescent recrudescence. My friend, for the sake of sparing innocents suffering, I would recommend to keep playing...
I would rather be free of all delusions than live in ignorance. Although, that requires staring directly at existence without any rose tinted glasses. Of course, this does not entail a happy life. At the very least, some solace can be found in the fact that you know exactly what is causing the perpetual suffering of life, compared to the melancholy feelings of someone that is living in ignorance.
I shouldn't be here at all in this fucking mistaken not worthing existense only miserable suffering and hardships here .
You're here to learn how to never come back
Learn, seek further knowledge in the metaphysical
Can we all agree that this man sported the bes haircut in the history of mankind?
Bernard Black agreed
He reminds one of a Winged Hussar.
My money is on Louis Feinberg aka Larry Fine
Keith flint
Sting.... In his later years. ✊ 🙏 💖
He voices what I’ve always had an inner sense of; that life is inherently meaningless!
And you don't think you're asserting meaning in this statement?
Philosophy could have ended right here!!!!
absulutely true
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the
Holy Quran). Thank you.
so thought Schopenhauer himself. but guess it really didn't tho
This guy is amazing... Good translation too, flows well
nice speech to say on a first date
"So, uhhh.. tell me about your meaningless existence" 😅
@@noahbrown4388 if it's meaningless than what are you seeking by the question?
@@stevenpham6734 It's called sarcasm /s
@@noahbrown4388 it's called you should think a lil deeper bro
@@stevenpham6734 it's called a sense of humor, bro
Why is this so beautiful
Islam has a similar view on the life in this world which is superficial and temporary
what is boredom is: emptiness of existence. (this is why he is a genius)
Favorite quote: "merely the vain choice between unsatisfied desire,and the labour of ennui.."
Truly mind blowing, just unbelievable
Everything we enjoy is pleasure, which lasts temporarily and thus pain and boredom takeover, even the delight in a single thought is the senses in reality after we have realised it is so to speak a "thought" as you label it!
Schopenhauer is that "one person I'd like to have a beer with" quiz..
Old Schopenhauer has my heart while Nietzsche has my head.
@@barnswaldo5975 But eternal recurrence is surely the ultimate affirmation of life.
terrible wing man, If you looking to get laid
Beautifully put!
Unfortunately, I cannot find any reason to disagree with Schopenhauer. You might not like his assessment of the human condition, but on which points is he wrong?
nietzsche showed how he was wrong, though it might be just manic optimism
FiniteAutomaton It sounds to me that your are making a case for relative happiness. I think the video is trying to state that there is no ultimate happiness in finite existence.
Also you seem to be making the claim that all we are is conscious mammals. It may be true. Not an axiom though because consciousness is mysterious.
@FiniteAutomaton what a long winded worthless comment.
@@lostintime519 It's ignorance, which is on the same level as an animal.
Lostintime - I used to read Nietzsche under the assumption that he was right and thus Schopenhauer was obsolete. On a whim though, I decided to read Schopenhauer directly, from page 1 to the end... boy Nietzsche was so wrong. As Schopenhauer himself said, we get incalculable benefit from reading someone directly. Secondhand commentary is a necessary evil, and I couldn’t start most things without commentary. But this meme is wrong about Nietzsche “dunking” on Schopenhauer. The only true problem, which Bertrand Russell claimed and Schopenhauer himself admitted to: Schopenhauer was nothing like his own ideal Buddha’s & saints and other “deniers of the will.” But even here, Schopenhauer said many times that his personal life wasn’t admirable by his own standards. I think the real “problem” with Schopenhauer is that he is correct about things people wish he wasn’t: 1) the conventional worldly human idea of a “good life” is a dangerous illusion, and 2) the Buddhas and Jesuses of the world WERE in fact pessimists when it came to this worldly idea and WERE SPECIFICALLY advocating abandonment of most of the ‘precious’ belongings these worldly people value to gain full liberation. We see in this era, too, much revisionism and blind optimism about Buddha and Jesus: ‘Jesus was just saying to live by the golden rule, Buddha just said to be mindful and loving’, etc etc etc, conveniently ignoring all their teachings on abandonment and anti-hedonism.. a timeless tension
Great video. Thank you. Also love to read the comments under videos about Schopenhauer. Harbor of intelligence on this ocean of stupidity that we call the internet.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the
Holy Quran). Thank you.
Does anyone else feel like Schopenhauer is the Jedi while Nietzsche is the sith.
***** both Jedi and Sith would be positivists (with Schopenhauer being the pessimist/negativist). Even the Sith suffer from the "vanity of existence", and are narcissists, with a well-defined worldview which they seek to impose on others, build empires, etc. Good or Evil, they are still engaging with the world with no consideration for analyzing their engagement, their brief lifespans, etc.
Christian Hamilton Schopenhauer was the teacher and Nietzsche the student, until the day he surpassed him, giants in human mental frame.
Nice insightful comment Carlos.
Hare Krishna!
Yes, Schopenhauer's philosophy advocates contemplation, compassion, moderation and humility, while Nietzsche advocates a will to power, to become an overman, disregard of universal moral values in order to create one's own, a distaste for "slave morality". Indeed, Schopenhauer was a Jedi Master, and Nietzsche was the student who turned to the dark side.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the
Holy Quran). Thank you.
"....the present age, which is remarkable for its veneration of what's remarkable in every form,...." AWESOME!!!
He would be so fun to have as a guest at parties.
The spring of eternity leads man be fooled by hope dancing into death
Call me naive, but I remember the splendid nights in Turkey as kid, watching the sun go down, the special atmosphere, the love...
Glorified memories
Maybe that's the trick...don't let anyone live past the age of 10!
He has more to say. He also states that a few, very few, have gone on to deny the will, to be compassionate but indifferent to the world and existence. Realizing the futility and redundancy these few witness the menagerie as the illusion it is. “ It is so Grasshopper.”
Letting go of life is as much a sacrifice as breaking up with a horrible partner.
The best part begins when the worst is over.
this is so fckn true, well atleast for me it is.
(My friend, I offer you the most beautiful human values that humanity has ever heard. The beauty of his words and the support of logic and reason to him. And his answers to the inquiries of the soul makes the soul feel happiness that it has never found before and is not bored of it, and the appearance of tears of joy from the West to hear it attracts the souls of those seeking happiness to hear it( You enjoy yourself with the words of God, he is the
Holy Quran). Thank you.
"Man is a compound of needs which are difficult to satisfy".
I need a fuckn drink!!
Have a beer! Cheers 🍺🍺
Thank you.
It's not so much life that is the problem, it's consciousness.
Its not only a problem as you can enjoy things animals cant and aren't aware of, but it comes with a VERY high price.
Consciousness would never had been a problem if we lived in a reality worth existing in. Regard it as life simply stopping for a moment and finally understanding what it is. First we tried to find something more than reality - some kind of spiritual answer that would transcend life. After that we tried to change nature with science only to find that this world, by its nature was fucked from the start. We've been trying to build a paradise on a foundation of garbage.
If those animals out there could understand what we do, they would stop reproducing immediately out of sheer disgust. But, understanding and knowing this world, that revolting gift has fallen to us. Consciousness is not the problem - the ridiculous natural conditions it is placed under is.
No governments / oppression/greed /stupidity= a meaningless life.
@@Firespectrum122 Damn. I couldnt describe it better. We look at animals but no other animals have consciousness. The fact is the fact that we ar conscious of our existence might be a big mistake. Thats why many people either work too hard or do drugs to forget about it.
@@edthoreum7625 Bold of you to assume that there is a solution.
In other words life is mundane.
Excellent translaton.
Schopenhauer is a greater influence on culture than any modern philosopher, though many would not agree. They'd be wrong; Einstein, Darwin, and Freud are only a few of the heavy hitters who have admitted his importance. Add Joseph Campbell, Nietzsche, Kafka, and Wagner. And the list goes on and on.
When you lose your desires there isn't much left. At least those who have a sex drive will have something to keep them busy for a while. I struggle to be interested in anything. Not much gives me a kick anymore. Like Schopenhauer staring into the mere emptiness of existence.
Emptiness of existence = Rupert Murdoch!
Omg you just described how I feel sometimes. Its like I cant get into anything because I feel like its pointless in the end.
Lol oh dear wits wrong with us 😂😂
Happiness is intoxication. 16:12
All this is laid out and expressed poetically in Shakespeare and Beckett.
The will to humor... the will to honesty.
Enlightening
@sth_188:오!17분 전!역시 충섭&쭈뇽 캐미는 짱!
혹시 몰라서 들어왔는데 충섭님이!
time is merely the form of willing to live... the transcending moment is what it is just outside of knowing time
There isn't any point to be here only wake up to repeate the same cycle see the same humans who only iflicted in you suffering and pain and whom you hated . Only suffering
The Fugs have a great song called "Nothing". Personal favorite.
Unfortunately, much of what Schopenhauer said seems to be borne out by observations. Poor humanity. Would that it was different.
I do not understand the point(s) that you are trying to make. Can you elaborate?
With you on that Steve...
" were different it would be the same; "
This is a contradiction. If something is different, it is by definition not the same!
I think what he might have been asserting is that you can't change reality because of its entropy, and you can't change life because it requires the use of breeding and eating because of that very entropy. The will, the thing itself, and being the consequence of the finite nature of the universe, can only perpetuate itself by means of what we have now. The individual is an emphatic assertion of that will. It is opposed to a state of equilibrium and needs constant help from without in order to exist. For the individual to have any hope of existing, and these needs met regarding the continual help from without, no one would be born or live without the will. Thus they are inseparable.
It would be nice if it was different. However, I can't picture anything different that wouldn't destroy the concept of a conscious mind. It would be like a microprocessor with no clock. Simply single a state of being very much like a rock, or a sheet of paper. I don't think that if Steve doesn't stare like a bewildered ape at the stars that he is a fake pessimist.
BRAVO!
It is always dangerous to say out loud: our birth is a huge accident by bumbling humans doomed to be blown this way and that by winds of fate without a God caring anymore about humans then leaches , pigs or dung beetles . Any human that is NOT a misanthrope is not paying attention or not honest .
"The striving of the will is to no avail." Dark enough for you?
what is empty to one may be full to another. but both are connected to the processes, which will exist regardless of interpretation. Therefore what is the point of interpreting that which cannot be transcended, because of its mechanical nature? The point is only in the person who thinks there is a point. But can the point be found outside the person? No, because man is the point for himself. He squares his own circle. But the circle does not need him to exist. His meaning is merely an attempt to superimpose another type of existence onto that which already exists. He rejects that which exists and thus would like something that corresponds to his yearning for explanation beyond appearance. The appearance to him is not enough. He needs explanation to replace the appearance.
Event Horizon And that too is your explanation. Your materialistic speculation!😃 Rather,it is mysterious.
What Nietzsche sought to refute
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Wow! imagine living your life,in order to find out why you continue to live tour life!
His talk of god ,according god nothing of a stone shall be in our way to fall at,RATHER ALL UNIVERSE,from that S. Talk of a god that in coprice clap his own creating and explain everything to be god,on earth,in spite of a world full of misery and distress,THAT WILL NOT DUE AT ALL:Schopenhauer
Next to Bertrand Russell, the funniest philosopher ever.
Hah
The man is called NIETZSCHE and not NITSHI.
And that's why people get intoxicated!
I wish humans never created time.
Everything we touch turns to shit.
Can someone explain me how he discovers such deep stuff but feels the need to categorize it as something negative? I mean i dont want him to be positive but the other seems as meaningless
Yeah, it's all meaningless
@@HughMorristheJoker idk
could woody harrelson play him?
I would not be able to hold my laughter
And so why continue? (and this question is not being familiar with Schopenhauer's complete works). The obvious to many he states, but the answer to why one should keep going or to live out one's lifespan when all is futile, seems left unanswered. Why did he, personally, and obviously live to be such an old age and why did he bother to write anything down if all is meaningless? Also there are some things left out, like homosexuality (which in his time has no definition), or the satisfaction of a good, loving partnership shared with another in a life.
good comment,,,keep on living,and you(we), may find out!
The will doesn’t want us to die so it is a built in resistance to abandoning self preservation
Aha!
Thanks for the video(*_*)
Btw Scott McQuate is the Truth!
All is MERE CHANS EXISTENS FLUX
Why does truth have to be categorized as pessimism? Such a negative connotation. Truth is neither optimistic or pessimistic it simply is.
Isn't it obvious why? Because it goes against our most fundamental wishes and tendencies in wanting comfort and wanting to be rid of pain/discomfort
@@justdev8965 that’s a personal problem. A young soul problem at that. Old souls don’t have that problem
I like D. E. Wittkower's reading better.
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When Schopenhauer’s essay on death was so resplendent....how can God be denied?
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Lighten up, Arthur! Oh well. At least your pessimism is high-quality.
Oh what a nice voice, the laziness picture show of existence
I think it’s possible that the great philosophers are those who possess 2 traits. 1. They are clinically depressed, such that, regardless of life circumstances, they are pessimistic, bitter and generally incapable of happiness. 2. They are highly intelligent and articulate. This allows them to spread their inner demons to so many people. I’m not saying Schopenhauer is wrong, just that his suffering probably stems from a chemical imbalance or otherwise medical deficiency. Unfortunately, I tend to agree with his main points. Damn it!
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I very strongly disagree that "his suffering probably stems from a chemical imbalance or otherwise medical deficiency". He was a very highly intelligent realist!
Each person suffers in a unique fashion. If you're not suffering currently, it is only the reprieve, not the condition.
Maybe you just don’t like the hard truth. So you accuse him of sickness when he honestly lays out the unvarnished ugly truth . Humans want a mental escape to the stress of being born by thoughtless dumb humans into a painful life with death waiting . All about breeding , sex drive to make more apes that wear clothes.
Not labor...langour.damn spellcheck
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"Our hearts are restless until we rest in you oh Lord"...St. Augustine.
When I was religious, the thing I looked forward to most was death.
Hasn't changed.
@@halcyonzenith4411 Perhaps you should go on medication.
@@hanskung3278 Anyone who believes in magical thinking should go on medication.
my god, no one knows how to pronounce "Nietzsche"
@@helloman1051 isn't it like "Nee-cha"
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Emptiness is das truth because truth is empty.
Empty of what ?
Empty of its own individual existence because everything is interbeing and nothing is being.
There is no such thing as
The thing in itself
Because everything has 2 sides like night and day, life and death, yin and Yang.
Friedrich Nietzsche would snap the shit out of him this dude lived in pure hell1800 and was writing quote level highshool teenager girl ....he wastn able to see the real horror he was part off it. he couldnt do nothing that must raging for him to have to close his eyes the worst thing an human can do period closing itself! it hurt as well other than yourself !!! he talk about finding trhu love in oneself. just take 30 seconde and reaize who this guys is or and what kind of parasit ideas was floating in is body and mind
What are you trying to say? Can you repeat that in other words?
Hilarious! Lol
( LOOK AND YOU'L SEE) those may feellike dumb words but look DEEEEPEERRR every words have an infinity of story in them
what a sad man:(. you have to open yourself to the horror of what its is being alive those are connecting your soul to every trauma that man women beast every little tthing as felt in the entire cosmos from the begining off time!!! the knowlege past from it our ancestor is cosmic its like getting upload.. open your self up!!!!!! :S let yourself cry revel the baby that is scare as hell its hard dude... remove that name that someone gave you the burden of the past.. we are not suposed to be named.. there is signes to help people lost to wake up absollutly everywhere beause is something that come and go you have to stay whorty ... mankind have so many kind amd wise champion everywhere this is something that happen absolutely everywhere on eart! this is not some easthern stuff its way to simple and lazy to see trhu thislens... there is help everywhere its so obvious and sad .. our body itself it's one fat signe right under you nose.. every movie/story joke it is leterally in the language those uncounsciouss part that need to get fired up. it's literally like the univers itself is looking at us in the eyes screeming WAKE THE FUCK UUUUUPP! but alot can't or refuse open the self ....... life is aplay grand in pure feeling fueld by imagination! any king of feeling the worst and the good! a deep understanding of who being i mean is obligatory you have this duty tonot reproduct wasyour ancestor did BY LOOKING IN THE ABYSS IS WHERE LAY WHAT WE HIDE it can be an eperience TRAUMATIC what is a trauma is something that need to be deeplyanalyse as an individual to connect to the horror of our colective unCounsciouness heritage! or you will miss the point THe opressor and the opressed we are bot ! everyone can see it you need to acept it but evyrone is on their heroes jourey look for perfection and order the roots of evil
he is a sad man it sad.
find the roots of evil its a hell of a drive you will cry because that the only human thing to do cry and work your empathy
This is terror.
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Existence is terror
@@mountaindew371 Existence is a starving, craving tumor and endlless struggle and turmoil, that will eventually culminate in death.
nietsche>>>>schopenhauer.
Nope
Lol he looks miserable even his photograph.
Lol intelligent people aren't happy lol. Lol,
He looks real, like he's not faking anything. That's all that matters
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"Schopenhauer has quite a crude mind... where real depth starts, his comes to an end"
- Ludwig Wittgenstein
"Schopenhauer, by the way, is referenced twice in Mein Kampf" - James Harting, Stormfront forums.
The guy obviously has many many issues.
+Earthling THX-1138-4EB So you discard Schopenhauer because Wittgenstein was unable to fully comprehend his philosophy, while also being associated with Nazism through Hitler? Schopenhauer stands on his merits, not others.
All Hail Sir Microcosm Doesnt matter if you believe Witt couldn't comprehend. Schoop's philosophy was used in a 'bad' way - but yet - he didn't expect that?! Whatever. His 'merits' are pathetic.
Oh and he didn't die in an apparent, horrible suffering way. Died peacefully on a couch. So even his own philosophy didn't count on him. I know that's a bit low, because how can anyone know the suffering he endured on that couch, but you see what I mean?
And how come, most of the people who have near death experiences always say it was 'bliss'? Yes yes, some say it was horrible - low number though - and I realise there's more variables to take in with that argument.
Earthling THX-1138-4EB You reminded me of Bertrand Russell's commentary on Schopenhauer. How Schopenhauer lived, or how other's used his philosophy, does not negate its validity. Wittgenstein was also a rather nasty person to be around. What does that say for his philosophy? Nothing. Now take your sophistry and sod off.
All Hail Sir Microcosm No problem. :) Enjoy being bitter at everything, and everyone. 'Sod off' how classy of you.
Earthling THX-1138-4EB I'm not bitter at everything or everyone. Just crass optimism and stupidity. It's not my fault the vast majority of people are these things.
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