All Vampires in Conan Lore (Study and Theory Crafting)
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
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0:00 - Quote
0:34 - Introduction
1:28 - Varnae Origins
6:00 - Vampires Explained
11:38 - Husks
12:57 - Dhampire
14:22 - The Bizarchives
15:20 - Siren Sect
16:20 - Adze Sect
17:15 - Nosferatu Sect
18:21 - Horrors
19:55 - Aqueos Sect
24:05 - Moksha Sect
25:04 - Charniputra Sect
26:02 - Claw Sect
26:51 - Yikki Onna
27:21 - Honorary Vampires
31:51 - Goodnight and Good luck
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Sources
The Horror From the Mound: • "The Horror from the M...
Hour of the Dragon: • The Hour of the Dragon...
Fire Vampires: • "The Fire Vampires" by...
Conan Issue 103 (1979): conan.fandom.com/wiki/Conan_t...
Savage Sword of Conan Issue 155 (1988): marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Savage...
Death of Dracula (2010): www.marvel.com/comics/issue/3...
Varnae: villains.fandom.com/wiki/Varnae
Akivasha: conan.fandom.com/wiki/Akivasha
History of Marvel Vampires: • The History of Vampire...
Other words for vampires in Conan/Marvel depending on Culture: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Vampires
Nosferatu 1: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nosfer...)
Nosferatu 2: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nosfer...)
Charniputra: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Charni...)
Tryks: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tryks
Saracen: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sarace...)
Maracen: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marace...)
Boy: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Boy_(V...)
Ancient Aqueos: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ancien...
Aqueos: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Aqueos
Ritual of All Seeing: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Glossa...
Yiki Onna: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Yiki_Onna
Verdelet: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Verdel...)
Lamia: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Lamia_...)
Vampire Sects: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire...
Cthugha: lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Cth...
Fthaggua: lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Fth...
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Great video! I actually really like this origin story for vampires. A lot of vampire media seems to have bloodlines "just because," but the idea that necromantic sorcery wouldn't take to everyone the same way seems pretty organic to me.
It makes sense that creating vampires through magic would have a different outcome almost every time. TES for example did an excellent job of bringing vampires into their world with magic.
If I may, I would also like to introduce the Clans of Vampire: The Masquerade as another example of an organic vampiric bloodline system. To start, I shall list a few presuppositions:
1. The Blood of Caine weakens over the generations. The 1st generation being Caine, the 2nd being the direct childer of Caine, etc.
2. The Disciplines (Innate vampiric magic/powers) are tied to the Blood. Each clan has 3 Disciplines that they can access by default, additional Disciplines can actually be taught by ingesting the vitae of a vampire with that Discipline.
3. The Antediluvians, 3rd generation vampires and the founders of the Clans, took on Disciplines that reflected their capabilities, cultural background, personality and ambitions. This has been self-perpetuated by the Clans choosing to embrace people similar to the Antediluvians in those aspects.
The first presupposition is the easiest to prove, as it is demonstrated by the game rules; 14th and 15th generations are the weakest, known as the Thinbloods, and not being able to wield the Disciplines as other vampires do, having their own, less potent, powers. 9th generation and below cannot raise their disciplines above 5 dots. Antediluvians, the 2nd Generation and Caine are taken to have a Discipline rank of "Yes".
The second is also just found in the game rules, and doesn't require much explanation, but it does confirm that the different Clans carry different sets of powers within their Vitae, and that, more generally, the Disciplines are bound to the blood.
The third supposition is more tenuous, as not much is actually known about the 2nd generation and their relationship to the 3rd, but we can trace commonalities in Disciplines to find the common ancestor. The Clans that possess the Discipline of Obfuscate all descend from Zillah, who is shown to have a fondness for hunters, seeing as two of the three Antediluvians she sired were hunters, and thus the Clans that descend from her have a particular emphasis on stealth, infiltration, sabotage and assassination.
The Clans that possess the Disciplines of Potence, Dominate or Fortitude all descend from Irad, the General of Caine, with the clans resulting from those Antediluvians becoming societies of Warrior-Philosopher-Kings, evidenced by the Clans Brujah, Lasombra and Ventrue.
Finally the Clans with the Auspex Discipline are descending from the first-sired member of the 2nd generation, Enoch, who favoured those with similar insight to his own, siring the more mystical of the 13 clans.
To conclude, we can assume that 13 Clans of Vampire: The Masquerade were formed from a combination of cultural preferences among the founders, the link between the Disciplines and the Blood of Caine, and the dilution of the Blood over multiple generations.
Big agree! Glad you guys enjoyed it, I was thinking of you while making it!
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Is vampire canon in conan lore?
"The fire vampires' home appears as a comet moving through space..."
- Oh my God, the Heaven's Gate people were vampires! 😂
Meh... thralls.
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“Before draining them dry.” As you said that I couldn’t help but add. “In more ways then one.”
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@@GrimDarkHalfOff I mean Akivasha didn't just want to have some barbarian blood.
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@@Morec0 it is the hiborian age, if a man wants to get laid with vampires, the said man will, either by paying with gold or iron
becouse the riddle of steel is expensive you know 😅
Been having an idea of running a very heavy lore centered Masquerade game with influence from Conan. Imagine the goal of the campaign to hunt down ancient and forbidden lore from the Hyborian Age that predates Cain as the father of all vampires and where modern clans could have their ancient roots; like the expression a Venture would have finding their progenitor is an intelligent ape-man necromancer.
Been there and done that a few times, .. at two different gaming shops and group of players.
Classic OWoD, Werewolf Apocalypse and Mage Ascension had rules for creating spirits that can posses the living/ dead and function very much like vampires.
In a few games we cross Werewolf, Wraith, and Vampire Dark Ages and ran a Stone Age Egyptian campaign of the ancient Egyptian gods barely along the lines of Masquerade: Set clan mythology where all the gods were vampires. We started the game where the gods were minor Mage: Dream Speakers or Werewolf kinfolk able to cast 3rd level gifts. The legendary Atlantis was just getting their trading fishing boats going and the Egyptians were not even building fired mud brick buildings yet. The Egyptian gods were Ban spirit blood magic user vampires fighting desert spirits and werewolf monsters.
At the time from the 1990's, the Werewolf books had some interesting views of Egyptians mythology.
2.) The new world of darkness came out, and I just really loved the new refine rules of Mage the Awakening.
So I draw up six index cards with magic daggers/ short swords with stats on the flip side. Random roll treasure plot device in a private collection, then had a time shift and one of the vampire player's PC lost their hip/leg in combat where a witch turn the bone into a blade handle, .. random dice roll for item. Wow the dice came up as being the same blade at the start of the adventure. So the main blade/new blade got lost for 15, 000 years and when the characters return to the present, the vampire got a hold of both magic blades cause of some kind of time paradox.
b.) My gaming shop house rules with stats write ups had both DC & Marvel super heroes, so .. it was a running gag where the player group had too many run ins with Marvel Wolverine. So, .. the party had a face off with Conan, Ben Grim the Thing, and Wolverine in the Hyborian Age.
After having a run in with Wolverine and the Punisher, sent back in time and run into Wolverine again and fight Lovecraft monsters and came back into the present. Random die roll to who greets them in a different city where they started from, .. it was Wolverine.
Sometimes the dice really don't like the players during a given day.
c.) As for the Venture expression, skip the ape-man and go with a bamboo or monkey, overcompensation for small size.
Being lorded over by a monkey half the human vampire body height.
Have the monkey meta game all knowledge in game.
d.) For my old D&D games, to break the high adventure or fast pacing we ran low pace stone age or bronze age mini games creating minor magic items such of a stone spear of fire burning or a bear fur blanket of warmth and some type of clay pot/bowel of create food, then have said item turn up a few thousand years later in the stander campaign setting.
Bronze age it was clerics or minor mages tooling copper sheets for religious spell books fighting mind flayer/ illithid Lovecraft monsters. Nothing trips up players is seeing their old dead PCs corpses in forgotten tombs/temple complexes. " Flash back " time loops.
Hope you had a good weekend, and have fun gaming.
That's even more crazier that Conan lore supports blades existence as a daywalker
I would also add the vampire plant Yothga from "The Scarlet Citadel". It fed on the lifeforce of the sorcerer Pelias while he was a prisoner of Tsotha-lanti.
Good call
Conan AND vampires? Awesome.
Gonna have to watch this one tomorrow, chief. The battery on my phone is almost dead, and I'm dead tired. Thanks loads for the video!
Your more than welcome!
Thanks for the upload and greetings from Puerto Rico!.
delicious new content drop, today is good
I love how well researched your videos are and nothing beats the world building of old pulp stories as a solid foundation for decades of content.
I have been waiting for this video for weeks sir hell yes! Immediate like, tossing it on now. Praise Hanuman!
Return to Monkepire!
Good on you mentioning Fire Vampires! But I was hoping you'd mention the Star Vampires from the Mythos, too. Anyway great job, Grim!
I’ll keep Star Vampires in mind for a later video! Thanks for the suggestion!
Grimmly Marvelous work!! I love your Hyborian/Thurian Bestiaries!! Incredible cultural interpretation, explanation variants and lore of Vampires in the Conan Universe!
Tremendous! Your voice is a great fit for the Conan universe.
Again, you present excellent work! I consider your content the voice of the Conan Universe. A ambassador to Howard's world as ABoarderPrince is to Warhammer and Tex of Tex Talks Battletech for...uh...Battletech.
Imagine a vampiric Atlas in Battletech. :)
@@michaelthomas5433 "Blegh! I am Count Kerenskula!"
Fascinating topic, love how much research you did my friend, and love the inclusion of Bizarchives, may have to try sending in some writings I'm working on, so thanks a bunch for their links (these writings are mostly involving sword & sorcery and dark-fantasy/semi-horror)!
I'm not terribly fond of the addition of Dhampyr's to the mythology of Vampires, but because it is your voice and channel I forgive that and even grew a little fonder of them. That said, the Moksha caught my eye the most, it is interesting how they starve themselves, to have prophetic visions.
Also had a question; regarding the nature of Liches, as Akivasha in the Kull movie seems to be more of a demon, which is a marked contrast to her vampiric origins in the literature. Any chance you might touch upon Liches in Howard's 'Legendarium' at some point, those like Tascela from the Red Nails story?
thank you... thank you so much for this. it was needed since vampire lore is not spoken about in conan exiles the game. u rock ❤️💕
Woot! Gonna watch this while I trim my little vampire's(my cat) claws.
Love to see you being sponsored by the Bizarchives, have been a fan of both of you for a while. The bizarchives is really good
This video was fascinating. I especially appreciate how you cited your sources individually. This allows me to sort the public domain materials from the copyrighted lore. I expect many of these sects will appear in a sourcebook of a type that I'm building for a TTRPG tactics game called Kill Sector. My little project is set in Cimeria, and the Aqueous are exactly the type of weirdness which should be a great fit into Kill Sector.
Hope school is going well my dude
It is grades are up, thanks for the thought
Great stuff. I routinely like to make vampires and other standardized monsters more interesting in my campaign, by adding such variations. Got some great ideas here. Thank you.
Friggin awesome!
Here to rep Clan Tzimisce -
Dragons forever and always.
Edit: what a fascinating topic when viewed in the entirety of its weird spectrum. I’ve always loved vampire lore but Conan really pushes the concept in a way that I think only World of Darkness has managed in the current world era.
Yeah man I was looking forward to this to listen to while i make soup! Great content as always but seeing that 30+ minute length makes me a happy guy.
I’m here to please!
awesome vid conan vampires are freaking awesome
The first vampire was an ape necromancer? That's so weird it's cool. I was trying to come up with some vampire lore for a setting i'm working on, nothing deep or anything, it's a more light hearted fantasy adventure setting but my original ideas don't feel nearly as creative or interesting as ape necromancers.
nobody knows about ape vampire
I’d love to know more about it!
@@GrimDarkHalfOff The origin is eldritch vampiric space entities that devour worlds, their descendants seeding vampires on planets across the universe.
I just needed an excuse for the space vampire that acts as the big bad in the story. I was thinking of Skeletor and Mumra when I came up with him.
@@Gaia_Gaistar That sounds very fun, thanks for sharing!
I could watch a whole video on Dark Templars. Where might one find more info on these stained souls?
Been waiting on this.
Great lore as always.
Yessss! More lore!
Love your Conan lore vids! Would also be cool if you continued your Conan Unchained series, it was fun to watch.
I’ll keep it in mind, thank you
Yes.. i do think i will sit for *checks time* 32 minutes and 54 seconds consecutively =D
Great videos as always love your stuff . Yah Varnae the vampire love that story from Bizarre adventures magazine and the original of Dracula. John Totleben art is simply amazing when I first read it in the late 80s.
Excellent thanks again for this informative episode.
Thankfully your videos are interesting and well-structured, but honestly I think I could enjoy listening to you narrate paint drying. 🤣
Your words are very kind
Great video again! And congrats on the Bizarchive sponsor! I personally like the Aqueos vampires probably the best as well, but I think all of them have interesting quirks. I think the origin of Varnae, being a very clever reference to the "first vampire" of fiction Varney the Vampire--being a large, hulking ape creature who becomes a vampire pretty much by accidental circumstance is probably one of the more believable origins for vampires. It'd be more interesting to me at least if Caine from V:TM was a giant ape man rather then--well, just a dude.
vampire King Kong 🧛♂️🦍
Brother, I just burned through your entire collection of Hyborian Age material. Top notch stuff, Grim. Straight up my alley. I'm thoroughly impressed with the breadth and depth of research you partook in.
A few questions.
Where do you source your information, other than Conan: Exiles lore?
Do you have any Podcast material, so I don't have to have RUclips app burning a hole in my pocket while I listen to you while I work?
Thanks again for the content. You are doing the Gods work out here.
Loved it, really interesting dive into the setting
Such an Eye opener, this is great información and excelent video.. You have given me so much to think about.
Extremely informative adn interesting video as always!
Wasn't expecting the Bizarchive plug. Great people!
Another great addition thank you!
I just want to say I really enjoy these videos. I have always been drawn to Conan media for some reason. Ever since I was young even though I rarely saw anything from the ip, an obscure game here, a movie there, something about it really stuck with me. Counting inventory at my job late at night while listening to your videos has become a semi-regular thing for me.
Awesome! I didn't get the notification on this and just found it today. Can't wait for your next one.
Your videos of the conan lore are excelent, good work.
I have been looking forward to this, and my anticipation is well rewarded! Great video and glad to see that you’re getting sponsors now.
I’m happy to have them
Great video been going though the catalog of your Conan lore you’ve give me quite a few ideas for the dnd style campaign world I’m building in Conan exiles keep up the great work :)
Very cool video, your voice is honestly awesome and I would love to hear an audiobook by you.
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0:13 - 0:21 sounds like me this thanksgiving
Hope everyone had a good time and some good food
excellent a new video
Wonderful video, I’m mulling around the idea of a vampire/classic dark creature based DND campaign right now and I’ve been waiting so very impatiently for this video since you announced it.
Classic AD&D2ndE, Ravenloft Van Richten Guides covering vampire, werewolf and other gothic troop stories. Written by the point of view of a monster hunter.
For a single book to play with 3.5 Sword & Sorcery Ravenloft campaign setting core book. Which covers all Ravenloft Domains. Along with covering vampires, hags, and ancient dead/mummy of different age groupings.
If you have the classic AD&D2ndE playing books there is a section in the DMG on Creating your own PC Class, where my gaming shop just used the modifier rules to modify the Bard class hd, Thac0 and having the spell table so we could run a Whitewolf/World of Darkness(WoD) vampire/ werewolf characters.
Hope you had a good weekend, have fun gaming.
I am writing a book about Vampires, and the Marvel Hyborian Vampires did have an influence on me in terms of various clans of Vampires, and like Lovecraft was an influence on Howard. Cosmic Horror was a heavy influence that drove me to craft a post-apocolyptic story set in the far future where Vampires and Cosmic Horror Entities exist. The goal was to combine gothic horror with cosmic horror and mix it in with splatterpunk and extreme horror as well. The Vampires that I have written were borrowed from what I grew up on in the 90s, taken from actual folklore from various cutltures, and taken from my own imagination and blended together. The Vampires that I have crafted are visceral and in-your-face, sadistic and twisted, just pure evil Vampires are. Unlike the modern Marvel Vampires, these Vampires are not turned by a blood virus. My Vampires are made not from an infection of the blood, but an infection of the soul. I decided to change how making a vampire is different, where they don't infect their victims through bite or blood drinking. I chose something that is different and is meant to act as infecting the psychic part of the brain that infects the soul, and I have written that not everyone can become a Vampire. It depends on the psychic might of the soul. If the person has been a terrible person in life, like a Politician, a CEO, or a Psychopath. They would just die from the process, but if the person has been someone who has never harmed anyone, has spent their lives repressing and caging their darker urges, and was a victim of violent trauma. That person is a viable candidate to be converted.
sounds like bloodborne to me
@@jasonsantos3037 lol yeah
Very good love the video
Ard there anything offical connected to the modern world? R.e.howard's own time are close enough to count. I suppose Chuthulu mythose would work. Still it could be cool with a story where, let's ssy Conan or even Kull slay an unnatural beast in a cave and then some modern people find some traces of the battle. Maybe an ancient skeleton of something that shouldn't be possible? Or an ancient vampire loose a battle and retreat into a cave to recover in one of those blood filled coffins/sarcophagus only to awske in the modern era when some cave explorers finds it...
Yes indeed 1922’s Horror on the Mound takes place in 1920s Texas
This was really good! Are the creatures in Iron Shadows of the Moon considered Vampires?
I have been plotting where they come from in my book's lore. I was thinking of a generational thing. How far removed a vampire is from their god.
awesome video
Thanks mate.
One cannot help but note that Castlevania, a series very much about vampires, had 'Varney' as a major figure in the anime's fourth season.
I don't think it was an intentional reference, but it's a very fun coincidence.
Castlevania varney is based on Varney the vampire. It's a character from Victorian Penny Dreadfuls
@@Twulfbynight Which is likely an inspiration for Varnae as well.
Varney the Vampire by James Malcom Rymer and Thomas Pecket Prest....1845. Before Dracula even.
Great video about the vampires in Conan there's a lot different varieties than your common vampires you know I would love to see a video about the bats demons they're kind of interesting to learn about They remind me of the red giant bats from primal. 🧛♂️ ⚰️🦇💀🩸
this technically dubs as blade lore :D
I would like to ask how the kitsune are a part of Conan lore or if they even are? i like your videos they have helped me with my Conan lore.
Maybe everything is possible in the world of conan. 🦊
That Godsmack song that I always almost think is Zombie
Awesome
Wait how/why did subscribestar lock your account? Also have you considered using locals? Everyone I've seen use it swears by it over Patreon, subscribestar, and everyone else
I need "high priest of the blood ape" on my business card
Comments like these are why I make these videos 👍🏼
I find the deep ones vampires just so hilariously op
They all, collectively came to the conclusion that the best way to end all human life is to be a vampire fish alien thing
Aqeuos Vampires DESTROY Deep Ones with FACTS and LOGIC
lol
Next video is going to be Deep Ones in Conan by the way I just finished the script an hour ago!
@@GrimDarkHalfOff I saw. I can’t wait
Especially as the deep ones are old. Very old. Older than the serpent men, and most other races on the young earth.
At least if I remember my lovecraft lore correct
Funny this video come out in Halloween Season.
I can hear that Valheim music in the background. I'd recognize that music anywhere.
I am pretty sure the vampires from 30 days of night were Nosferatu. Loved that movie.
For some reason I picture you as the college professor that teaches “the only cool class”
Your goddamn right!
@@GrimDarkHalfOff I had that once, my history professor, he was like you but with a higher voice and tendency to swear like a sailor
6:10 does anyone else think the guy with the cleaver looks like Zod from berserk?
26:05 so basically marvel version of banu hakeem sect
So I wasn’t aware of Conan pretty sure at all before I saw games it seems his comics and books are pretty much from same time of love craft and have the same feeling. That’s crazy I thought he was just like an image comics spawn type thing
Well I’m happy to help
Any link to Savage sword of Conan issues?
In the description box
I would go with the idea that each vampire is a unique monstrosity rather then organize them into bloodlines.
Where do the aqeos originally come from, publishing wise? I can only find a link to marvel comics that seems to be about vampires. But like, what series or stories do they originally come from?
Curse of the Mutants and Namor the first mutant
It’s Varny the Vampire!
A Dark Templar whose ascension was interrupted by a Charniputra, botching the ritual and transforming him into a daywalker version of the gargoyle sect, Tis now something that sounds like fun to toy around with-either as a player character or as an antagonist character for the players to face. Worst comes to worst, just playing a Dark Templar who takes on the guise of a Charniputra would make problems for any party of Adventurers.
Please start posting to Odysee as well. Thx.
How would one find your discord, I admit I have looked but I regrettably am all thumbs when it comes to some things.
Community tab, post with the big demon looking guy
Just out of curiosity do the Chinese hopping vampires count as vampires in the Conan lore or are they considered to be something else?
Huh, I don't think that monster has been mentioned in any Conan story.
thank you for sharing you videos with us i use your stuff to rp my vampyre stuff on conan exiles i got 20 in vitality and i eat raw human flesh for blood maybe one day theyl add vampires and where wolfes in the game like elder scrolls online
I wish you fun nights, kindred!
Hey man. Love the new video. Really would like to donate some money. I can’t use Venmo because my stuff is frozen. Is there any other way to give you money?
Thanks, I don’t know really I’ll be working that out in the future. Thanks for the thought, I do this hobby because it helps me with self improvement. The money is only a helpful motivator :)
@@GrimDarkHalfOff I’m with you 100% of the way. I recently started running every single day and doing push ups. Feeling great.
3:50 I see Kratos and Atreus went evil after Ragnarok
So Varne is basically Tremere. Or is it the other way around.
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16:20 I thought I heard Beyonce at first lol
The human faith and culture may effect each vampire species differently. It would make since that not all vampire would be affect by the Holy Crucifix unless one has a strong faith in Christianity. After all Christianity is a new faith compare to many ancient ones. Older Vampire may not be affect the Holy Crucifix depending the strength of faith and family bonds. Could the Holy Crucifix work for a vampire hunter some who strong family value but not have any faith in Christianity.
Wait, vampires called Boii? My ancestors were vampires?
What the difference between this and a ghoul
we have a video on that if your interested.
@@GrimDarkHalfOff really thanks what’s it called
So wait a second..... Theres nosferatu vampires? So is conan just waaaaaay in the past of world of darkness/VTM ??
If you start and Onlyfans will it be called Grim Dark (Pants Off)?
People keep wanting me to do that
Imagine you're the offshoot of a deepone and a vampire, and your elitist, holier than tho attitude doesnt even come from your fish god side.
We all know that the peak vampire was Wesley snipes
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Amazing coverage, bring us more of your tainted lore
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Blade is a daywalker. Dr strange fought Dracula and Varnae besides Thor and Ghost Rider .