I love how people say we should incentivize their airline industry to be more fuel efficient. Like This is one of the few industries that is 100% incentivized to replace fuel. Fuel is the #1 cost to airlines. The #1 thing they want is less fuel. Whichever aircraft manufacturer that can come up with a safe electric aircraft that has the same capabilities as a conventionally fueled airliner will get a mind boggling amount of orders because of the amount of money it would save airlines. Manufacturers since 1970 have had goal that has never changed cut fuel costs. The holy grail is electric planes. No need to incentivize these guys they are moving that way as quickly and safely as possible
Peter O brien Thanks for your comment! Most certainly so! And pressure is being put across by all stakeholders! Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos!
If you think that someby must do something then boy oh boy have I got news for you. Doing something does not come out of nowhere. There are always reasons why someone does something. What we must and not put into a sentence in the way you did implies that there is an 'or else' part of your hurrying narration that somehow the reader should intrinsically be aware of. I tell you this, we will have electric aircariers and we're still fkd cos majority of people want to live in a state of unconscious mindless consumption. And also batteries have eventually even a bigger inpact on our living planet. I'm not against,I'm all for it...heck I wish Nicola Tesla's plan would work out and we would have all electric aviation since 1920s. But it didn't and we don't. Animal farming, plastic waste and poisonous food are the biggest problems that we're facing ... so, yeah, electric plane is a cool gadged to be added to into the casket of humanity once we consume ourself out of existence.
I would think to use two inboard jet engines with two outboard E-fans. All four could be used upon takeoff, the two jets idled back during cruise and used as generators then all four dropped to minimums for landing. It would have a major decrease in jet fuel use.
Hope you've been well since writing this comment. It's a very interesting thought and honestly hybrid aviation is the way to go especially considering the entirety of Airbus' fleet (as of December 2022) are capable of running on 100% sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) which is essentially a drop-in fuel type derived from biomass. Things like human and animal waste, forestry residue, oils and fats, etc... which has an emissions efficiency of like 90% compared to regular jet fuel. But it would take years to even make a dent in emissions even with SAF running on all Airbus engines. Interesting thought and it will probably be a while until we see an all electric fleet... Even still a German Airline just purchased a fleet of "Alice" aircraft from Eviation, a NASA based startup focusing on electric aviation. So, we could be seeing those types of planes taking over some regional missions in and around the northwestern European countries like Germany, Belgium, Switzerland...
Long term goal, wing fuel tanks replaced with battery packs and fuselage tanks feeding a single on board generator powered by a single turbine engine optimised to run at 100% rpm the entire time. Peak engine power is only required at take off and higher loads at climb. Batteries can supplement take off loading and generator alone can feed climb out power. At cruise the excess power output from the generator can be used to charge the wing battery packs. Batteries in the inboard wing and skin surface heat exchangers over the entire wing surface will take care of heat generation. Auxiliary cooling scoops can be deployed for take off and climb out and retracted when not needed. Completely hybrid airliner achieved with peak efficiency 🤙 weight loads once optimised will be almost equal to a current jet and with sufficient use of composites and reduction in wiring and hydraulics weight loads will be LOWER than on legacy aircraft
J Young: Very well put I must say, but they could also have back up generators in case the turbine generator fails. In fact I think overall such aircrafts of the future will also be much safer.
Does not work like that. The Bae ALF505 engines work at 98% max thrust in the cruise, so there is no room for running a smaller engine. Max continuous thrust is 857 degrees c. Cruise thrust is 820 or 830 degrees c. Most airliners cruise at nearly full-throttle altitude. P
Hopefully, Airbus brings that down to 2 engines mounted near the rear, cos more engines/motors increase weight and drag. :) Also, I'd love to see this plane in an orange and blue livery, but color is the least concern. We just need electric planes, to reduce our CO2 emissions.
The 146 was way ahead of the pack when it came out and has become an ideal feeder airliner and route aircraft even over longer distances. Very quiet and very reliable and why they are still flying. Airbus could do worse than do an 'electric 146' with two turbofans and two electric motors.
Good to hear that the old British BAE aircraft still has a use , especially testing new technology. This proves that Britain’s last aircraft manufacturer created a good design. as ever it was a lac of government support for industry, which is why not many things are made in Britain now. The old BAE Avro site is now a housing estate. Very Sad
Government support poisoned British industry, making them uncompetitive; the best companies kept going due to investing in improvements, but the subsidised ones just fed the money to shareholders and gradually collapsed.
*Definitly Avro 90% DNA resurected by Airbus.Very Beautiful timeless High Wing/T-tail design by **BAE.AirBus** made some revissions that made it more reliable and economical to operate.Good work AIRBUS👍👍👍👍❤❤❤👌👌👌*
Why not use mixture of batteries & helium canister placed underneath the batteries in order to reduce extra batteries weight (to get them levitating) in flight and when landing withdrawn back into (in pressurise form) in the canister. That way you can have as many batteries as needed to increase the range without increasing the oveall weight of the plane.
From what I understand it’s a test bed with a Siemens motor, Rolls Royce ducted fan and 3000 volt electrical system. Since it’s a 3 megawatt motor there will be 1000 amps. Serious conductors and over current protection needed. I think only one engine will be electrical. There is a lot to learn. The batteries just aren’t good enough yet. The future of commercial aviation will be dominated by ultra efficient aircraft such as SUGAR VOLT that still use fuel. Synthetic carbon neutral fuel can be made from CO2 taken from air combined with hydrogen from electrolysis. The term used is PtL “power to liquids”. There may be some use of fuel cells or hybrids
William Jones-Halibut Thanks for sharing this information. Yep, many challenges stand in the way, but the motor industry managed to overcome these which have Airbus hope they could also launch an electric aircraft. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
Algae biofuel is the way, though it's still something like $6 or $7 per gallon, but the moment regular fuel inevitably hits that price, the airlines will eventually start being economically pushed to switch over of their own accord. Though some airports ( like Seattle, for one ) are already intending to start having the jet fuel they provide be 10% biofuel blended in sometime in the immediate future
@@AKMaxFlightsTravel Algae biofuel requires far too much area to produce, using it to meet the demand of the entire airline industry would reap horrific environmental damage. Carbon capture is the only way.
But what is the benefit of having a turboshaft run a generator, charging batteries, powering an electric motor? Seems stupid unless I'm missing something. Turbofans are already pretty efficient as they are, at least when compared to a turboshaft...
United Airlines is looking for newer greener aircrafts part of their Zero Emissions program. I think this aircraft can have to potential to make tue cut.
Now that brings a whole new meaning to range anxiety... if your electric car runs out of juice before you get to your destination it simply stops... if this plane runs out of juice before it gets to the airport it crashes out of the sky in a burning fireball!!!
Interesting, I believe Airbus would have taken that into account when designing the aircraft. Thanks for tuning in and do consider following ONESkyFlyer on Instagram for more great Plane Spotting videos!
Hybrid or electric battery aircraft could be the future of 'regional' type of air travel for flights under 2 hours but want stop planet warming and its associated unpredictable weather patterns and air turbulence. Air travel as we now it today, will be a shadow of its self in the future.
The only practical electric aircraft are ones where they DON'T have to worry about being placed into a 'holding pattern' at an airport. Those are the only aircraft that fly out of really small airports that have hardly any flights out of them and aircraft that take off and land on the water. If you have to fly to an airport with any amount of traffic, you cannot fly an electric aircraft there safely since an electric airplane does not have the stored energy to loiter around for 30 minutes during heavy traffic.
Electric for the future? What do you think? What other technologies do you think will make its way to future aircraft, comment below! Thanks for watching and if you are new, do subscribe and stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
ryan M Thanks for your comment. Yep, this technology still has a Long way to go. But this applies to cars a Long time ago, and with advancements in technology, I believe that electric is indeed an interesting fuel! Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
Seems like the E-fan X is paving the way for the return of the Quadjets, except that this time it will be 2 electrical engine + 2 turbofan engine. A hybrid A380neo would be interesting.
Chirag Chaudhuri It most definitely would! Thanks for watching and if you haven’t already done so, do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great future videos!
Just a hybrid-esque test for now. The low energy-density by weight of batteries is just too limiting to allow pure electric aircraft, in such a way as larger aircraft like most airliners would only be able to fly for 20 to 40 minutes before dropping out of the sky even if you crammed batteries everywhere inside. Biofuel is the much better route if one is interested in "carbon neutrality" regarding air travel. If I remember correctly a lot of the bio-kerosene/jetfuels are derrived from algae, and at the moment are a bit over $6/gallon or so. So when regular fuel prices reach or exceed that level ( likely later this decade ) then bio-jet fuel would become an economically viable or eventually even better option for the airlines in comparison to regular jet A
AK Max Flights Thanks for your comment. Most certainly so, there is still a Long way to go for technology to allow all electric aircraft. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
Probably Electric airplanes of near future would be Hydrogen powered than battery charge alone. Battery would be, smaller, stabilizer of electric surge balancer than main source, in such aircraft, hydrofueled airplanes. I guess that such aircrafts would be partially turboprop-like blades that will act like a re-generation upon landing stages and another two conventional, if there is four engine. Hydrogen-planes will fly in short routes. Fully electric is within city-taxi.
Dang, how about getting the dual ducted fan aircraft at 4:52 out for general aviation as a starter. Make it a twin seat tandem offering and it would become a green toy for the rich 1 percenters and then start trickling down to the rest of us.
Just to be clear - The aircraft you're showing ISNT a hybrid electric concept plane. The BAE-146 is being used for what's called a "Flying Test bed", just to test the hybrid propulsion system. Results from this test will be used to design an actual aircraft later on.
This aircraft was a complete nonsense from the very start. A hybrid is ALWAYS heavier than a jet engine, reducing payload and range. And there are hybrid NO gains, because aircraft run at a constant power setting. So the project failed, as any six-year old could have told them. Just how did they get finance and grant money? Who were the idiots who funded this?
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I love how people say we should incentivize their airline industry to be more fuel efficient.
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This is one of the few industries that is 100% incentivized to replace fuel.
Fuel is the #1 cost to airlines. The #1 thing they want is less fuel. Whichever aircraft manufacturer that can come up with a safe electric aircraft that has the same capabilities as a conventionally fueled airliner will get a mind boggling amount of orders because of the amount of money it would save airlines.
Manufacturers since 1970 have had goal that has never changed cut fuel costs. The holy grail is electric planes.
No need to incentivize these guys they are moving that way as quickly and safely as possible
At 2:20 he says: "...an aircraft which took to the skies nearly forty years ago, in 1992." LOL Might want to double check the math on that one.
Its the time of trump, facts dont matter any more.You can make up shit and say its true. Human race is doomed.
@@acekiwi7184 This guy wasn't making it up, he just made a mistake. I get ur point about trump though
The problem is not with 40 years but with 1992. Should have said 1982 which is correct.
The Bae 146 first flight was in 1981.
So the commentator and Trump are right....
P
@@paulspencer889 i don't know what you mean but ok.
We must start accelerating towards cleaner aircraft
Peter O brien Thanks for your comment! Most certainly so! And pressure is being put across by all stakeholders! Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos!
You get the bucket and sponge, I'll go get the hose!
yes, we have to!
Not in a million years
If you think that someby must do something then boy oh boy have I got news for you. Doing something does not come out of nowhere. There are always reasons why someone does something. What we must and not put into a sentence in the way you did implies that there is an 'or else' part of your hurrying narration that somehow the reader should intrinsically be aware of. I tell you this, we will have electric aircariers and we're still fkd cos majority of people want to live in a state of unconscious mindless consumption. And also batteries have eventually even a bigger inpact on our living planet. I'm not against,I'm all for it...heck I wish Nicola Tesla's plan would work out and we would have all electric aviation since 1920s. But it didn't and we don't. Animal farming, plastic waste and poisonous food are the biggest problems that we're facing ... so, yeah, electric plane is a cool gadged to be added to into the casket of humanity once we consume ourself out of existence.
I would think to use two inboard jet engines with two outboard E-fans. All four could be used upon takeoff, the two jets idled back during cruise and used as generators then all four dropped to minimums for landing. It would have a major decrease in jet fuel use.
Hope you've been well since writing this comment. It's a very interesting thought and honestly hybrid aviation is the way to go especially considering the entirety of Airbus' fleet (as of December 2022) are capable of running on 100% sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) which is essentially a drop-in fuel type derived from biomass. Things like human and animal waste, forestry residue, oils and fats, etc... which has an emissions efficiency of like 90% compared to regular jet fuel. But it would take years to even make a dent in emissions even with SAF running on all Airbus engines. Interesting thought and it will probably be a while until we see an all electric fleet... Even still a German Airline just purchased a fleet of "Alice" aircraft from Eviation, a NASA based startup focusing on electric aviation. So, we could be seeing those types of planes taking over some regional missions in and around the northwestern European countries like Germany, Belgium, Switzerland...
Long term goal, wing fuel tanks replaced with battery packs and fuselage tanks feeding a single on board generator powered by a single turbine engine optimised to run at 100% rpm the entire time. Peak engine power is only required at take off and higher loads at climb. Batteries can supplement take off loading and generator alone can feed climb out power. At cruise the excess power output from the generator can be used to charge the wing battery packs. Batteries in the inboard wing and skin surface heat exchangers over the entire wing surface will take care of heat generation. Auxiliary cooling scoops can be deployed for take off and climb out and retracted when not needed. Completely hybrid airliner achieved with peak efficiency 🤙 weight loads once optimised will be almost equal to a current jet and with sufficient use of composites and reduction in wiring and hydraulics weight loads will be LOWER than on legacy aircraft
J Young: Very well put I must say, but they could also have back up generators in case the turbine generator fails. In fact I think overall such aircrafts of the future will also be much safer.
Does not work like that.
The Bae ALF505 engines work at 98% max thrust in the cruise, so there is no room for running a smaller engine.
Max continuous thrust is 857 degrees c. Cruise thrust is 820 or 830 degrees c.
Most airliners cruise at nearly full-throttle altitude.
P
RIP e-fan x. Hope they will revive the program after the recession
The comeback of 3 and 4-engined airplanes? (Queen of the Skies 747-8E?)
Hopefully, Airbus brings that down to 2 engines mounted near the rear, cos more engines/motors increase weight and drag. :) Also, I'd love to see this plane in an orange and blue livery, but color is the least concern. We just need electric planes, to reduce our CO2 emissions.
The 146 was way ahead of the pack when it came out and has become an ideal feeder airliner and route aircraft even over longer distances. Very quiet and very reliable and why they are still flying. Airbus could do worse than do an 'electric 146' with two turbofans and two electric motors.
Whats the background music??
The first one...??
I've a EDFJ design that will take you farther and faster than any other current flying e-aircraft, using current battery technology.
I'm a big fan.
Good to hear that the old British BAE aircraft still has a use , especially testing new technology.
This proves that Britain’s last aircraft manufacturer created a good design. as ever it was a lac of government support for industry, which is why not many things are made in Britain now. The old BAE Avro site is now a housing estate. Very Sad
Government support poisoned British industry, making them uncompetitive; the best companies kept going due to investing in improvements, but the subsidised ones just fed the money to shareholders and gradually collapsed.
*Definitly Avro 90% DNA resurected by Airbus.Very Beautiful timeless High Wing/T-tail design by **BAE.AirBus** made some revissions that made it more reliable and economical to operate.Good work AIRBUS👍👍👍👍❤❤❤👌👌👌*
Thats one cute cat !
Live that Avro design...one of my all time favorites!
Boeing 727-E?
Congrats on 7k subs
pilot sam 004 Thanks for your support! Yep, let’s hit 10k soon ;)
Why not use mixture of batteries & helium canister placed underneath
the batteries in order to reduce extra batteries weight (to get them
levitating) in flight and when landing withdrawn back into (in
pressurise form) in the canister. That way you can have as many
batteries as needed to increase the range without increasing the oveall
weight of the plane.
From what I understand it’s a test bed with a Siemens motor, Rolls Royce ducted fan and 3000 volt electrical system. Since it’s a 3 megawatt motor there will be 1000 amps. Serious conductors and over current protection needed. I think only one engine will be electrical. There is a lot to learn. The batteries just aren’t good enough yet.
The future of commercial aviation will be dominated by ultra efficient aircraft such as SUGAR VOLT that still use fuel.
Synthetic carbon neutral fuel can be made from CO2 taken from air combined with hydrogen from electrolysis. The term used is PtL “power to liquids”. There may be some use of fuel cells or hybrids
William Jones-Halibut Thanks for sharing this information. Yep, many challenges stand in the way, but the motor industry managed to overcome these which have Airbus hope they could also launch an electric aircraft. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
Algae biofuel is the way, though it's still something like $6 or $7 per gallon, but the moment regular fuel inevitably hits that price, the airlines will eventually start being economically pushed to switch over of their own accord. Though some airports ( like Seattle, for one ) are already intending to start having the jet fuel they provide be 10% biofuel blended in sometime in the immediate future
@@AKMaxFlightsTravel Algae biofuel requires far too much area to produce, using it to meet the demand of the entire airline industry would reap horrific environmental damage. Carbon capture is the only way.
@@oneskyflyer where can I find the whole electrical plan
Could be called the EB-146
But what is the benefit of having a turboshaft run a generator, charging batteries, powering an electric motor? Seems stupid unless I'm missing something. Turbofans are already pretty efficient as they are, at least when compared to a turboshaft...
United Airlines is looking for newer greener aircrafts part of their Zero Emissions program. I think this aircraft can have to potential to make tue cut.
I wish i had a camera to film one when it few over the roofs of peoples houses at night with zero lights on
Now that brings a whole new meaning to range anxiety... if your electric car runs out of juice before you get to your destination it simply stops... if this plane runs out of juice before it gets to the airport it crashes out of the sky in a burning fireball!!!
Interesting, I believe Airbus would have taken that into account when designing the aircraft. Thanks for tuning in and do consider following ONESkyFlyer on Instagram for more great Plane Spotting videos!
Same thing with air fuel. If you run out boom
But will it blow up if it crash?
Ok so... will we get the Concord-E ?.. who’s up for battery pack supersonic flight?
Hybrid or electric battery aircraft could be the future of 'regional' type of air travel for flights under 2 hours but want stop planet warming and its associated unpredictable weather patterns and air turbulence. Air travel as we now it today, will be a shadow of its self in the future.
You’ll need a fusion reactor within
The only practical electric aircraft are ones where they DON'T have to worry about being placed into a 'holding pattern' at an airport. Those are the only aircraft that fly out of really small airports that have hardly any flights out of them and aircraft that take off and land on the water. If you have to fly to an airport with any amount of traffic, you cannot fly an electric aircraft there safely since an electric airplane does not have the stored energy to loiter around for 30 minutes during heavy traffic.
Airbus A340-600 electric sounds good..
You believe in unicorns?
A large version EDF.
Electric for the future? What do you think? What other technologies do you think will make its way to future aircraft, comment below! Thanks for watching and if you are new, do subscribe and stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
AirplaneProductions. No way. Energy density of batteries are not even close to the density of Petroleum. Waste of time
ryan M Thanks for your comment. Yep, this technology still has a Long way to go. But this applies to cars a Long time ago, and with advancements in technology, I believe that electric is indeed an interesting fuel! Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
Seems like the E-fan X is paving the way for the return of the Quadjets, except that this time it will be 2 electrical engine + 2 turbofan engine. A hybrid A380neo would be interesting.
Swiss001 😂😂😂I always wathh him
pilot sam 004 Haha! Yeah, great channel!
@@oneskyflyer 😀
Jumbolino's return...😁
avro moment
avro moment
avro moment
avro moment
let's grab hands and sing kumbaya
This can be a revolutionary for a green and eco-friendly future
Chirag Chaudhuri It most definitely would! Thanks for watching and if you haven’t already done so, do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great future videos!
Program cancelled due to COVID 🙁
Just a hybrid-esque test for now. The low energy-density by weight of batteries is just too limiting to allow pure electric aircraft, in such a way as larger aircraft like most airliners would only be able to fly for 20 to 40 minutes before dropping out of the sky even if you crammed batteries everywhere inside. Biofuel is the much better route if one is interested in "carbon neutrality" regarding air travel. If I remember correctly a lot of the bio-kerosene/jetfuels are derrived from algae, and at the moment are a bit over $6/gallon or so. So when regular fuel prices reach or exceed that level ( likely later this decade ) then bio-jet fuel would become an economically viable or eventually even better option for the airlines in comparison to regular jet A
AK Max Flights Thanks for your comment. Most certainly so, there is still a Long way to go for technology to allow all electric aircraft. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
Probably Electric airplanes of near future would be Hydrogen powered than battery charge alone. Battery would be, smaller, stabilizer of electric surge balancer than main source, in such aircraft, hydrofueled airplanes. I guess that such aircrafts would be partially turboprop-like blades that will act like a re-generation upon landing stages and another two conventional, if there is four engine. Hydrogen-planes will fly in short routes. Fully electric is within city-taxi.
Only one engien?
Dang, how about getting the dual ducted fan aircraft at 4:52 out for general aviation as a starter. Make it a twin seat tandem offering and it would become a green toy for the rich 1 percenters and then start trickling down to the rest of us.
Mr, the plane is e fan x. So, this get ready for future?
Just to be clear - The aircraft you're showing ISNT a hybrid electric concept plane. The BAE-146 is being used for what's called a "Flying Test bed", just to test the hybrid propulsion system.
Results from this test will be used to design an actual aircraft later on.
they don't have the energy density, Tesla was closest to solving the human freedom puzzle
EFAN X is like bae system 146
❤️👌
Looks similar to the avro.
It is the AVRO modified for testing an electric powered fan. It is pure research and not targeted for a new production plane.
Nice 👍
Future is now
Solar panel equpp
*ANGRY BAE 146 NOISES*
Only me see an Avro RJ100?
Its a BAE 146-300 which became the Avro RJ100
@@1chish Yeah I wrote my comment too early
Hate that plane when you're in the wing you cannot see the view 😠🛩
long way to go... 4 engine jets not going to survive the economical consequences ahead.
Well, it's been cancelled now so...
Then why did Airbus upload a new video about it last week ?!
When will you be able to buy a ticket? Well never, What is the point of this video then.
Eletrict aircraft?
Powered by 200mm nuclear reactor i guest😂
powered by batteries.
Asian robot voice.
Pilot flying nude due to the battery weight
I disagree
This aircraft was a complete nonsense from the very start.
A hybrid is ALWAYS heavier than a jet engine, reducing payload and range. And there are hybrid NO gains, because aircraft run at a constant power setting.
So the project failed, as any six-year old could have told them. Just how did they get finance and grant money? Who were the idiots who funded this?
There is nothing wrong with carbon lmao