Battlefield S4/E4 - The Batlle of Pearl Harbor and the Fall of Singapore
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Directed by Dave Flitton, Andy Aitken, James Wignall
Produced by Dave Flitton (series prod.), David McWhinnie, Ken Maliphant, David Rozalla
Written by Dave Flitton, Andy Aitken, James Wignall
Narrated by Jonathan Booth
Music by David Galbraith
Distributed by Public Broadcasting Service
Release date(s) 2000
Running time 6 116-minute episodes
Country USA
Language English
I hope they never delete this series! I watch these from time to time.
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Well the corporate mainstream deleted it from TV decades ago, and now the corporate mainstream has control of the internet and youtube as well. Good thing we paid for it ourselves too lol, our noble representatives in congress saw to that
download it and you'll always have it ! firefox browser/extensions and themes/"EASY RUclips VIDEO DOWNLOADER EXPRESS" BY Dishita .. add to FF, enable, download in 720 Max Free
I can only imagine how many hours of research went into the production of these exceptional films...they are, imho, the best of breed WW2 combat documentary films...thank you for uploading them...
No Google back in the nineties.
The book "We Slept at Dawn" has all this info too..
Yes, I agree; the production person really did a lot of research in these productions.
I’ve always considered this series to be one of the best and thorough documentaries of WWII.
Amazingly fair,balanced,& mostly accurate-actually rare for their time. We just know much morebout WW2 today thst they didnt know in the 70s. But they did a phenomenal job for their time.
Bit late. This was uploaded 11 years ago.
Thanks for not having any commercial interruptions, like so many other documentaries do.
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The presence of ads or not wouldn't be his choice.
If Discovery decided to monetize, ads would appear.
I have Premium,no commercials, ever
I remember when this series first appeared in the early 90s on PBS. It was many years before even made it to DVD I believe 2010. If only the producers of the world at war could be so gracious as making their series available to the public like this. Thank you again
You're right. I used to tape these productions from WTVS in Detroit. I still have the tapes. This is a very well produced series!
Yeah I remember that too
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It's OK we've got Big Black Cock
I love this series and watched it quite a few times over since the first showings on Discovery Channel in the late 90s, thank you lots Vasile for posting it! - although I should say I find it ridiculous that RUclips is now age-restricting this video - if at all, we should encourage the youth to watch history documentaries!
The first showings of this were ... on PBS in the early 90's. This is a real old time old Skool doccumentary.
@@HontasFarmer80 yes but they showed it all the way to the early 00s for the later series, and sadly documentaries today are over the top controversy and conspiracy seeking garbage. also things are dumbed down a lot
@@nriab23 yes. Dumbed down and sanitized. Can’t imagine 5:33 being shown on TV any time soon… which is unfortunate because maybe people need to remember how disgusting and terrible war is…
I like to pay tribute to units which fought in Singapore whose exploits were not mentioned. The Malay Regiment which fought a brilliant last stand on Bukit Panjang Ridge and the Chinese irregulars of Dalforce who fought a spirited battle along Bukit Timah Road.
The commander of the Malay regiment, Lt Adnan is one of the heroes of the modern Singapore Armed Forces remembered for his bravery in th4 face of overwhelming odds. The Japanese victors used his body for bayonet practice.
any proof of the last sentence?
@太邪太恶了犹太佬 You must be dreaming.
End of 2022 and still like this as it was back in 90s when I was just a kid stuck to big old TV screen ... 😅
I was just thinking along those lines
I know this series has been around a while but I'm just now finding it! LOVE THIS STUFF! Many thanks!😑
The music when Tim Pigot-Smith described the D3A Val and B5N2 Kate was well chosen.
Then it suddenly turned blood chillingly ominous when he began describing the A6M Zero.
77 years ago today, we shall never forget.
Forget what?
I have read several suicide notes left by kamikaze pilots.
Most of them are love letters to their families.
They had no hatred for USA and Americans.
The young men could not sleep until two days before the sortie, and their eyes were bloodshot.
On the day before the sortie, they were laughing heartily and seemed to be having a good time.
And I hear that the young men left with a gentle, kind smile on their face.
Appreciate your thoughtful comments. You must be a highly compassionate person. What is your opinion of young Japanese men who were willing to sacrifice themselves when the only real possession any mortal being has is our lives. Is it a waste? Do you feel this willingness is honorable and should be promoted? The ideas of Bushido (Samurai Honor Code) are still respected in Japan to this day. It seems to me the feudal system that had governed Japan for ages survives in these traditions. I remember the battles on the Western Front of WWI. French and English foot soldiers mutinied because of the mindless charges over the top of their trenches. The ridiculous number of human lives wasted in futile attempts to gain a few yards of ground. What do you think these young men were thinking? Are they to be honored? Would Japanese of WWI, WWII, and today spit on the graves of the young French and English soldiers who mutinied? I think the young French and English soldiers who mutinied in WWI were citizens of a modern Republican society. They are also brave and would sacrifice themselves for their country. But not for a blind futile charge that gained a few yards only to be lost to their German counterparts a few weeks later. I think the Emperor of Japan and his Imperial Japanese Government promoted the Japanese ideas of Bushido. The purpose of Bushido is no different from the European ideas of Chivalry. These ideas are formulated to get the common people to die for the King. You hear it even today "for King and Country" at Oxford Union debates. Western intellectuals who live in an open Republican society shout the same slogans. That is, the many should die for the few or the one. That is, what the absolute power of monarchs, dictators, and communist Big Brother states want their subjects (not citizens) to do. It is this strategy that the Japanese Imperial Government used to force the US Government to negotiate a favorable truce of Japan. The Japanese Imperial Government and the Japanese Emperor were willing to trade Japanese lives in far greater numbers than American lives as a bargaining strategy. Even when the war was clearly lost. Japanese subjects of the Japanese Empire were willing to tolerate this because it is honorable. Would Japanese citizens of a modern democratic Republic allow their lives to be used as a bargaining strategy?
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Of the 3 American carriers in the Pacific at the time of Pearl Harbor, the Saratoga was being repaired on the West Coast (San Diego), and the Enterprise and Lexington were transporting airplanes to Wake Island and Midway. As the Japanese airplanes bombed Pearl, the Enterprise (w/ Halsey aboard) was about 200 NM west of Oahu on its way back to Pearl.
Roosevelt had carefully planned it all.
My grandpa's brother " Uncle Paul " lost his right arm and eye during the attack on Pearl Harbor. Shrapnel from a explosion tore up his arm so badly it had to be amputated . Infection from shrapnel resulted in the loss of his eye. My grandpa had to have both legs amputated in the early 80s because of poor circulation caused by several leg wounds suffered during the battle for Guadalcanal. He had so many surgeries on his legs in the years after WW2 that the resulting scar tissue from both the original wounds and the many surgeries later ruined the circulation in them . One was amputated above the knee and the other below the knee . And using a cane he eventually walked on his prosthetics which was amazing considering he was in his 60s when they were amputated.
Thank you for your illuminating comment. It's not often brought to our attention the long lasting effects of war. How much of what we now call PTSD must there have been leading to nightares and alcoholism, domestic violence and so on, that in those days wasn't talked about. And such a lack of treatment. The suffering went on. But I firmly acknowledge that they were a great and brave generation.
Thanks for posting these!
thank you Vasile for sharing with us, I always enjoy all your videos
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Check out the series hunting Hitler. Pretty badass.
I love the intro music to these. Dramatic yet magnificent. Makes me feel like mobilizing a Panzer army.
You would definitely like WW2 Gladiators intro music
Please don't go into Belgium again
My father's Combat Engineer Battalion built the bridge Yamashita demanded as part of his surrender in the Philippines; near Kiangan.
watching these when they were new in the 1990s must have been so relaxing
Crazy to think the attack on Pearl Harbor and the US entrance of WW2 was 82 years ago.
The battlewagon at 22:48 is a " post-Pearl attack " ship. It had to have been a South Dakota or a later design BB. The bow has much more freeboard than the California, Arizona. or West Virginia. The 3 gun turrets came later too. The crane assembly belongs to the ship just aft of the bow. Not the one on the pier.
It was 80 years ago today that Japan hurled its attack on Pearl Harbor launching the Pacific portion of WWII. May all those men RIP from both sides.
General Percival did not die in 1946. He died in 31 January 1966.
"This means war." is in reference to the fact that Roosevelt had just finished reading "The 13 Point Message" that had been sent to the Japanese embassy from Tokyo.
The Hull note led directly to war.
1:17:00 Japanese Propoganda Film - I think their camera/film technology was better than ours was. Those miniature model ships look great. Thanks - Lumpy
Great drinking game. A shot every time the announcer says "Sing-ah- POUR" - Thanks - Lumpy
That's really shallow and disrespectful.
The "War Warning" stated they were to take all precautions that would not I still fear/panic in the civil population. All of this stuff has been very simple to verify for decades, even when this otherwise excellent series was in production. It's too bad it appears the production staff failed to do any real research.
The background sound was so much better in the first 2 seasons.
From all the battles i have watched i feel for all the soldiers on both sides they were only fallowing orders its ashame that everyone of them went threw the long horrible days and nights of suffering to help there people that could not give a shit about any of them alot of brave young men i take hat off to them all god bless our troops just amazing brave soldiers
Dozo,
That is the bomb sight. The protuberance above the cockpit is the radio antenna.
Domo
I've been enjoying these episodes, but I most glad that the later seasons changed the music up from the earlier seasons
In Singapore we remember the fall of Singapore as Total Defence Day. The lesson we take from this is that we must look to our own Defence and can not rely on outsiders to defend us. Like our Israeli counter parts who helped build our army we say Never Again.
Were you able to watch this video?
The fact that Japanese war production was very near the level of Soviet Union in 1942-44 but quality better has been poorly undestood because after all people are focusing WW2 too much as a chain of hundreds of land battles. Actually as author Phillips Payson O'Brien has brilliantly studied, air-sea warfare not land battles were most decisive events of WW2. Those ruling air and sea will win the war. Military powers like USA, British Commonwealth, Germany and Japan invested just 15-30% for land warfare. Germans 30%, others just about 15-25%. Funny how Stalinist myths and legends of Great Patriotic War have confused even historians not to notice that fact: land warfare was never priority for most of powers.
+bandwagon22 i'm just curious, can you explain to me how did the red army defeat the wehrmacht then. based on your previous pont
+bandwagon22 Payson's theories are not very highly regarded if you did not already know. it would take quite a few pages to discuss most of the shortcomings in his work. i'm not sure where those numbers are from but the percentage of total production dedicated to Land, Sea or Air shifted every single year. A plane or battleship costs a whole lot more than a few guns. You are right in saying that land warfare wasn't a priority for most powers. Yet it was for the country that started the war, if the red army hadn't met Germany's troops head on the world would be a very different place right now.
German figures are based on studies made by German historians.They were really surprised when found how less German army got of munitions. For land warfare advocates those numbers were quite a shock. It also debunked the myth of Eastern Front priority. Great majority of German munitions didn't go to Eastern Front warfare.
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Both America and Britain were unable politically to react to German and Japanese military expansion. Churchill who foresaw the disaster to come, was shouted down as a "warmonger". When war was looming by then it was too late to improve long neglected defences. At Singapore most of the troops captured had only just arrived after months at sea.
Yeah, and mud on those faces.
@ billballbuster7186 ....Perhaps you missed Churchills video where dismissed the Japanese soldiers and Military as Bucked Toothed and Blind slant-eyed weaklings and not to be ever considered a threat to the South East Pacific? It's very revealing of Churchills arrogance and inept military realities.
48:00 Greatest naval defeat since Trafalgar (1805)?
The Battle of Tsushima (1905) was even worse than the Battle of Trafalgar. The Russians lost everything in that battle.
Not really. The Battle of Weihaiwei during the First Sino-Japanese War must be one of the greatest naval defeat of all time. The Russian Tsarist Navy was able to get some of their ships back to Russia after the war and was able to rebuild while the Beiyang Fleet lost everything including their metal clad battleship and their two flagship ships the Dingyuan and Zhenyuan were sent into the waters with no return. This was one step on how China's empire system got torn apart due to corruption and since then, the National Revolutionary Army aka the Kuomingtang who took over China from the Qing dynasty never had a perfect Navy like the Beiyang Fleet and never had the chance to rebuilt it's Navy fleet unlike the Russians who were able to rebuild their Navy by the initiation of Stalin and proved their worth during the Battle of Manchuria.
Yes, because the attack on Pearl Harbor brought the US into WW2, which ultimately resulted in the destruction and defeat of the Imperial Japanese empire.
Jodonho Trafalgar crippled 2 Navies. It caused the rise of an empire
@@jamiengo2343 That empire fell as soon as it was challenged, so it was of little consequence. Far too spread out, weak and underdeveloped.
In strategic terms trafalgar was the greatest naval victory in history. It smashed the French and Spanish fleets and paved to way for British domination of the worlds oceans for 100 years.
Yamashita was sentenced to death 1946
What took so long?
Vasile luga why won't it let me watch the video? Is there supposed to be somewhere to click where it says ''I wish to proceed'' because there isn't one now
i dont mind it..Been watching these documentaries for a while, and if imagine the narrator all i saw was an expressionless robot. Now that has changed! He actually does have a sense of humour..a fine human trait!
At 32:06 The narrator says that George C. Marshall returned to his home from a morning bike ride. Unless all the traditional movies and documentaries I've seen are wrong, this is slightly incorrect... Unless his horse's name was Bike. ;-) Marshall came from a time when soldiers learned to ride as part of the cavalry tradition.
Well he was always looking after his Fleet ( even though he was army.) He often had helpers in that.. when he didnt know where his Fleet was, even members of the public would re-uinite him with his Fleet , his dalmation.
What is that horizontal rod-like instrument at 0:19:31 in front the pilot cockpit on Aichi D3A1 dive bomber? I know it's not a machine gun, so what is it used for?
That is a bomb sighy.
Mitsuo Fuchida became a permanent resident of the U.S., not a citizen.
He's still a liar.
18:50 Mitsubishi Kinsei was a 14-cylinder, air-cooled, twin-row radial aircraft engine, not a 44 cylinder as stated.
Yeah, 44 cylinders sounds a bit excessive...
@@baruchben-david4196 "Must go faster?" Said a Japanese engineer confused. :)
The A6M-21 was capable of 334 mph. Later models were good for 365 mph on a good day. A little more than the film says it can do.
Yes. It was as fast and a good bit more agile than the best of its western contemporaries, especially in the early exchanges
Thanks for sharing.
This seems to be a newer episode of Battlefield that was not released along with the others.
When was this Video first filmed?
I know. The point of mkz's post was that it might have been better to avoid war with the US in 1941 and to attack the USSR instead. However, the point of my post is that Japan fought the USSR before the US and it ended in failure, and it would've likely continued to end in failure.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Class A research project. Orator presented the documentary very well. Special thanks to the soldiers/civilians who fought/perished/survived fighting Japan's military forces & allies. & Nagumo for changing plans with a 3rd wave of aerial attacks. Japan never attempted to invade Australia after bombing Darwin. 2 major mistakes costing Japan the war.
The third wave would have made no difference.
My dad was there first air base hit my understanding was they had already broken the japanese code and knew what was coming let it happen to draw us in
Why can't they bring this show back on PBS on weekends. As they did years ago. I remember they showed all the time in 2002-03! Then it was no more!
Huh, I just clicked in the middle and they're pulling Corsairs off a carrier elevator? Gee, any jets in this? Maybe clips from the Final Countdown?
The Japanese made bombs able to penetrate American battleship armor at Pearl by modifying 16-inch naval shells, shaving the shoulders to make them more aerodynamic and adding fins. Their test was dropping them from 3,000 meters altitude onto a 5-inch-thick 10 X 10 meter piece of German armor. Ordinary 250 kilo armor-piercing bombs would suffice to penetrate American carrier decks. Since the harbor at Pearl was only 40 feet deep, they had to add wooden fins to shallow their water entry depth..
This series is delightful. Like eating chips or sour gummy candy, I just can’t get enough. Comment flows along footage in perfect harmony. The history of war is beyond absurd considering that arms dealers never set foot on any battlefield. War is and will always be the dumbest and most repulsive human endeavour. Bombing the shit out an so-called enemy solves nothing, lest WW2 which still could have been prevented as per the Holocaust.
General Marshall had been out riding his horse, not a bike.
I miss the former narrator and music
If they had listened to Naguma, and did the ground invasion at Pearl Harbor, how different things would have turned out. We would have had to run everything from the West Coast. The outcome might have been the same, but would have taken much longer for sure. Never would have been a Midway battle for sure.
***** I wonder just how many ground troops the US had in the Hawaiian Islands On Dec 7, 1941? Would the Japanese have had the forces to supply an invasion force that far from home? Supplying is the key. The USS Pennsylvania was still active in her dry dock and she could have made life a little rough on any invasion force with her 14" guns? Plus there were 4 carriers just days away. Enterprise, Yorktown, Saratoga and Hornet. The Japanese would have to maintain air cover over the invasion forces and they're own carriers at the same time. Risky move?
***** At least one of the carriers had just delivered planes to Wake Island. So I don't think it was up to full capacity. They used a lot of their capacity to grab other areas. Who knows in the end, it certainly was a mistake to not attack again and take out the dry docks and remaining ships.
***** The 3rd wave would have paid off but an invasion at this point in the war so far from home would have been risky at best.
ed trine only Lexington and enterprise were in pacific waters. Saratoga was in dry dock. Hornet and wasp were still in the Atlantic
Clmech I both Lexington and enterprise had their full air groups. Nagumo’s fear was the he was being stalked by both.
pear harbor 2012. never forget
Did some1 attack it again? Hehe
This film is out of sequence with the earlier ones; there are many format changes
Love the Percival survived long enough to witness the Japanese surrender
Wiki says Percival died in 66...not 46
Man what’s the ost. It’s great.
5:34 VERY GRAPHIC 🗣️
This doco does not mention that it was Englishmen in the form of the sempill mission led by william forbes who helped the japanese develop their carriers way faster.
Admiral Chester Nimitz estimated that a third wave attack against Pearl Harbor's dry docks, oil reserves, and maintenance facilities would have extended the war by two years.
Yap, m forced the American defense to abandon or lose Midway+ other Pacific installations n American corporate interests, THEN America may have pressed a diplomatic solution instead of the 'day of infamy" response altho u don't kill US sailors n airmen n soldiers n walk off into the sunset, the US woulda done some diplomacy til battle groups form as fast as every Essex transits the Panama canal n then hit them some n see where they were, the all out war thing is taxing n the USA was as lucky except for the lost cruisers at the battle at suragao strait during'42 as the Japanese were in 41 n before
Wow, thats a sobering thought. Glad the Japanese commander was cautious as hell. I do wonder though if the Japanese fully realized that the logistics in Hawaii were that important. They went after militairy hardware, capital ships first, then other warships, and the planes on the airfield, though the airports seem to be mostly destroyed. Did they realize the oil and naval facilities were that irreplaceable?
If they had the balls to invade hawaii like it was mentioned being proposed, they would have thoroughly messed things up. How many troops would it have taken? 2 divisions? Then replace with a garrison and stock the airports up with Japanese planes, would have seriously messed up US capabilities.
The third wave would have made zero difference.
Nimitz's view was thoroughly debunked.
It was a different time then.
If the Japanese had gotten the petrol storage tanks, it'd have been much worse.
Agreed
*****
There was no way Japan could have won the war on straight military conditions. Even if the US carriers were sunk the USA would have won the war in 1946-48 instead of 1945. The Japanese simply couldn't produce the men and material necessary for total victory.
There were few things that could have gone better for the Japanese at Pearl. Did not destroy the fuel depots or repair facilities. Failed to locate any of the US carriers. The US was able to refloat, repair and recover many sunken warships due to the shallow depth of the harbor. If they were sunk at sea they would have been lost along with a higher death toll for the US.
***** Yamamoto would have fought the Army vigorously in regards to an invasion of the US. As all students of WWII know, he attended Harvard and had a posting and lived in the US. He was well aware of how much Americans love the 2nd Amendment and he warned the Army that "behind every blade of grass there will be a rifle".
***** Japan had no plans to invade the US. They just wanted to take a bunch of Pacific Islands to give themselves defense room and force the US to except it. Then go back to doing business as usual. An invasion of the US would have had a supply line of how many thousands miles? The D-day invasion was supplied from England.
Just a question ? How a country with wich war is uninvetitable can use sabotage ?
There was a large Japanese population in Hawaii. It was believed that many of them could be acting in various ways as agents of Japan, in some cases as collectors of intelligence and possibly as saboteurs. A popular belief at the time of the attack, since debunked, was that Japanese workers in the crop fields cut a long arrow pointing the way for Japanese pilots to Pearl Harbor.
VAL dive bomber 44 cylinder engine? Uhh... Wiki says 14 cylinder engine. I think I can believe that.
Oh man... I watched the Battlefield documentaries about midway and leyte and they were pretty decent but what the hell happened here? D3A with 44 zylinders, japanese carriers with 10" guns, the P40 "the moste capable plane of the war"... Who was writing the script for this one?!
+DerGrunty
#triggered!
+Isaac Dominguez Destura
Great. Thank you. This post of yours just gave me cancer. I can feel it growing stronger already.
Fantastic. Feel good about yourself now!??
Some people should be kept away from keyboards.
"P40 the best plane". Yep. That is why they build better planes that surpassed the P-40 in every way, because it was...the best... wait what!?
+Isaac Dominguez Destura errm what? You realize how big 10" is right? Even heavy cruisers only carried 8" guns, I can assure you that there was not a single carrier which carried 10" guns. The biggest were pre rebuild Lexingtons, Akagi and Kaga with 8". And for the P40... I just... man... This plane was horrible outdated and outmatched in WW2, on of the reasons it was basically only used in africa and parts of asia.
@@grunty333 now U show promise hehe, yes to "fight off cruisers" lol the Lex n Sara had those ridiculous starboard 8" 55's which would damqge portside AA mounts n kill their crews, such was the lingering faith in battleship type engagements
At 19:00 The Kinsei bomber is pronounced, more or less, kin-say to kin-say-yi.
If it were kin-sigh it would be spelled Kinsai in Roman letters.
Prince of Wales and Repulse first capital ships sunk from the air? If I am not much mistaken the German cruiser Königsberg has that dubious honor when it was sunk 10th of April 1940 near Bergen, by Blackburn Skuas.
torbk
Konigsberg was a CL, hence not considered capital ship.
It was a terribly awesome pun. :) Yes indeed! haha.
I feel like this documentary is far too generous to Percival. Perhaps it's working on old information. It mis-states the number and suply state of japanese troops, and greatly overestimates their chances of winning against a determined defence.
To quote the japanese commander, Yamashita:
"My attack on Singapore was a bluff - a bluff that worked. I had 30,000 men and was outnumbered more than three to one. I knew that if I had to fight for long for Singapore, I would be beaten. That is why the surrender had to be at once. I was very frightened all the time that the British would discover our numerical weakness and lack of supplies and force me into disastrous street fighting."
+Jonathan Fernando Of course Percival had now way of knowing that the state of Japanese supply was as bad as his own. Percival's main failure, given his information, was tactical and strategic, in organizing the defense poorly, and responding slowly to events as they unfolded. Just one example is his bizarre deployment of troops in the defense of the singapore island, where most of them were deployed near the coast, and defense in depth was largely ignored. Through the entire Malayan campaign, defensive actions could have been harder fought, and retreat could have been less readily resorted to. The final total was, out of 135,000 british and allied troops, 7,500 killed, and 10,000 wounded. Given that the british outnumbered the japanese 2:1 throughout the campaign, forcing more casualties, even on unfavorable terms, would have been hugely to their advantage.
He should have learnt from the Soviet generals. For the Motherland.
I disagree - Percival was very given a bad hand to play with. Most of his troops were totally raw, his equipment was very much substandard, and he was served by incompetent or insubordinate commanders. Some Australian troops arrived in Singapore with just two weeks of basic drill, while many Indian Army units had been given young officers straight from Britain who had never even met an Indian, let alone could speak Hindi. Many of the Indian regiments had been milked of their experienced pre-war officers, soldiers and NCOs, who had been transferred to help form new units. They had then been padded out with new recruits who had none of the professionalism or skill of the old pre-war army.
Some Indian army units had just one or two AT rifles per company or even battalion, totally inadequate given that most of the fighting actually happened along the roads, where the Japanese tanks were decisive.
Percival's superior numbers were a disadvantage because many were in fact rear area troops, there was not enough room to deploy them, and they simply increased confusion and strain on supply lines. Communications and logistics were a complete shambles because the Malayan Civil Service was still under civilian control, and refused to give the Army priority, and in any case the railway, telephone and road systems were totally inadequate for the demands of such a large army. The RAF and RAAF personnel who were manning the airbases panicked and abandoned their posts on the mere rumour of Japanese advance, which rendered Percival's entire plan for the defence of Malaya obsolete.
Percival didn't even have authority over the Navy or Air contingents, both commanded by abrasive, second rate officers who largely ignored Percival. The Malayan civilian administration was notoriously corrupt and inefficient, and the Malayan governor was indecisive and
Worst of all, Percival himself was a brilliant staff officer but he simply lacked the charisma to impose his will on difficult subordinates. The British would have been better off appointing a figure like Wavell or Auchinleck as High Commissioner of Malaya, with complete civil and military powers and Percival as his chief of staff, and with a smaller army of decent troops.
He could have handled the campaign better its true, but most historians agree that with the resources he was given the battle was probably unwinnable. Don't forget, it was in Yamashita's interest to portray himself as overcoming terrible odds.
I disagree with your conclusions!
Misstates is one word.
43:03 In hindsight you can say the raid on pearl harbour was a mistake because the americzn carriers were not there. If they had sunk even 2 of those carriers, the story may have been quite different.
That was deliberate.
December 7th 1941 and September 11th 2001 - two dates that standout in history as days which triggered a cascade of events around the world
I'd say that August 5th, 1914 stands out the most, or more accurately July 28th, 1914
Let’s not bring the Muslims into this
Stephen Hughes the difference is that 9/11 was an inside job and the criminals (bush and cheney) are still free
Zed's dead, baby... Zed's dead...
1:38:10 This is incorrect. Arthur Percival actually died in 1966, not 1946. He did retire in 1946, though.
Yes. What I meant was that they should have kept their effort on that front without provoking the US. They might have had a better chance actually knocking Stalin out of the War rather than adding to their enemies.
I don't think it would have made much difference...
Roosevelt dealt some oldmetal for his wanted war entry
@@pearly872 >hurr neo nazi
Kek. You’re embarrassing youreelf
i wonder why after the radar warnings the us military did not do anything?
Jesus Christ watch a movie or two
Isn't that suspicious? I dont believe that such info would be ignored
@@rpd3720
1. RADAR was a new and often unreliable technology.
2. The people operating it were junior people being trained on it.
3. A fleet of B17s were expected to land that day.
4. Most importantly, no American expected an air attack. Previous tests of air to ship attacks were not impressive.
5. It was Sunday. Most of Hitler's most audacious moves happened on the weekends. By Monday his actions were old news.
Ship tonnage isn't what they weigh but how much water they displace.
The Royal Navy at that time was still strong but they could only offer a piecemeal fleet. Maybe spare some light carriers?
The only available carrier was damaged. There were no CVLs in the RN until 1942...
They did not have one to even cover there own ships
Nov 20, 1941 was just 18 days before the attack on Pearl Harbor, not six weeks.
Spotted an error: Arthur Percival died in 1966, not 1946.
BATTLE ??? I mean ...Yeah I know ,its just ...I get it but,I just thought we were all very comfortable with the whole "SNEAK ATTACK" aspect ? I always assumed wed always just stick with that ?
31:00
Actually the Japanese diplomats were in the dark about the attacks. The Japanese military didn't want them to leak that information under any circumstances.
so a war crime?
Sorry that's a very broad statement. They knew that a course of action was in progress, they just did not know the details.
@@jamesroad316 The US was already at war.
They were lucky they weren't locked up on the spot...the U.S government wouldn't have been aware of that...
The Japanese attacked Pearl Habor because of the battle of Nomonhan in the summer of 1939. Before that they planned to invade Mongolia and Soviet Siberia. After their defeat in 1939, they were so impressed by the Soviet Army that they decided not to join the German attack on the USSR in 1941 and decided to attack the Dutch East Indies instead. So they bombed Pearl Harbor to provoke a war with the US so they could try to destroy the US Pacific Fleet.
Dear lady, you got serious deficiencies in your history knowledge. No offense meant, just don't build any theories until you narrow it just right.
No, it's true. I've got this info from the book _Nomonhan 1939: The Red Army's Victory That Shaped World War Two_ by US historian Stuart D. Goldman. Here's an article by Goldman that summarizes the book: thediplomat.com/2012/08/the-forgotten-soviet-japanese-war-of-1939/?allpages=yes
"General Tanaka Ryukichi, Chief of the Army Ministry’s Military Service Bureau in 1941, testified after the war that, “the most determined single protagonist in favor of war with the United States was Tsuji Masanobu.” Tsuji later wrote that his experience of Soviet fire-power at Nomonhan convinced him not to take on the Russians in 1941."
@array s yap n they didn't want a war with the USA, they wanted a standoff with the USA n to take mostly European colonial interests. Like Hitler, the Japanese honchos were also taking the new wonder drug, methamphetamine, n their empirical outlook was fatally overoptimistic altho their armies, also dosed, would sometimes perform outlandish 45 mile marches n unbelievable stamina during last ditch battles like Iwo Jima
I wonder if any of the Japanese aviators expected to use the katana swords if they bailed out.
They knew!
A hell of a strike, Pearl Harbour.
That's like saying that when you steel a apple from your neighbor and then he burns down your home, kills all your loved ones, that your theft of the apple was a good haul. LOL Just makes it an asinine move.
Oddly enough, the navy that was attacked at Pearl harbor was only about 1/3rd the size orginaly envisioned. Most of it was built between 1916 and 1922 after the passage of the 1916 Naval act which called for building a navy 2nd to none in order to dethrone the British Royal Navy as the most powerful fleet on Earth. Had the United States gone through with the plan instead of agreeing to the naval limitations treaty of 1923, you may well have seen a massive war between the United States, Great Britian and Japan a decade before the outbreak of World War 2. Just looking at the raw production numbers from WW2 the United States would've swamped Britian and Japan in naval construction and military production and defeated both nations in roughly the same time frame it fought and won WW2.
At no point after 1900 could a major power challenge the United States with any chance of success and at no point after WW1 could the British even with Japan as an ally match the United States on any level due to its massive Industrial and Economic might. By the start of the 20th century, it was clear that Britian's preeminence as the world's leading power was ending. The only question was which newer power would replace it, Germany or the United States. Eventually, the United States was forced to step into it's current roll as the world's most powerful country. A roll it sought to avoid untill Pearl Harbor made it's reluctance impossible.
Now Britian is a minor regional player with no real global importance outside of it being a stop over between the US and Europe while Japan is more powerful than Britian which has basically declined into Denmark with a small Nuclear deterrent that is not seen as a credible power outside of it's ties to the United States.
In short. Britian is irrelevant.
From what I've read Percival was a typical staff officer type who should have never been given such a command. It was beyond his competence.
You have too look into the prediction his was under, the British deemed single pore as no being Tank country, and the British force had no tanks, all the heavy guns of the Single pore fortress was facing out sea, the British had poor air power, and the Japanese bluffed the forces they had in the negotiations, put yourself in his shoes, you only have infantry no heavy weapon, or anti-armour guns, with tanks heading towards your men, you are told they have a superior naval force where the royal navy wasn't reinforced, and the Japanese had air superiority, would you give the order knowing your forces are probably going to be wiped out, from the knowledge you have. or would you be willing to sacrifice your dignity in the hope of sparing your men? Its easy to judge history but if you was given this little knowledge looking at what you had available, what order would you of given?
Its not what he did when the Japanese were there it was in the build up before then. He made a poor commander and those suggestions and advice he did receive, from the Aussie commander junior to him, he disregarded. They could have repositioned their airfields or made mock up dummies for the Japanese to bomb but didn't. He could have stressed the need for light tanks but took bad advice and sought not to. I'm not saying this would have prevented Singapore's fall but it would have been a far better battle and more costly for the Japanese if he wasn't there. I do concede other factors played a role as well - poor quality of the troops (some were blatant war dodgers), equipment shortfalls and as we know now information given to the Japanese by spies
John S You didn't answer my question if you was in his position would you give the orders to fight? as I said its easy to look back and criticize but you are point out small details that was neglected, the threats of invasion for most of asia was receiving warning and the British all together deemed unfit. blame a commander who can only work with what he got responsible it was a mishap of the British military. Its why he was never prosecuted for his action.
Stop trolling for a fight. The point is he should have never been given the command in the first place because he wasn't suitable. From my own time in the military I've seen the same thing as staff types always grease up the chain over the more combat orientated officers. In great contrast someone like Orde Wingate pitched into his men (of the same calibre as those in Singapore and in some cases men who had escaped it) until they became well trained and motivated.
John S You seem to be missing the point that you didn't get to make the decision, weather or not if he shouldn't of been placed in charge doesn't change the fact it happened, now answer my question and stop avoiding it, if you was in charge of it, and in his position, with the equipment resources available would you give the order? you seem to like to judge but have no opinion nor do you argue with his decisions? since you haven't said otherwise, I think you just like to criticise without lacing yourself in their position.
the uncle of my mother served in the US Pacific fleet in pearl harbor when the attack happend
@Mark Miller way to troll a 3 1/2 year old comment lol
That's cool, thank him for us when u get to vallhalla xx
A third attack on Pearl Harbor, and they taking out the fuel supplies and the repair facilities could very well have cost midway and Guadalcanal, but the outcome of the war would not have changed. It would just have taken longer. Once the industrial might have United States kicked in. It would’ve been a matter of time.
the time they realized the declaration of war came AFTER the attack on PH was like an "oh shit we screwed up" moment for japan
Declarations of war were obsolete. The Soviets did not declare war when they invaded Poland in 1939. The British did not declare war when they invaded Iceland in 1940 and Iran in 1941.
We were sanctioning Japan on petroleum when they attacked preemptivily
A 44 cylinder engine in a Val? o_O
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Major tactical victory that lead to a strategic disaster. This happens often when the government doesn't listen to the generals. Japan should never have declared war on the US. Other options like fighting the USSR might been a better alternative.
1942 probably was the peak of the Axis Powers as a whole despite the defeat in North Africa and great one at Midway that same year.
And Midway did a lot to turn the tides in the pacific. What a difference a day can make
@@TheKamperfoelie Not only a day, but those 6 crucial minutes when they hit 3/4 carriers with somewhat lucky shots.
You could say that, as the axis still commanded a large number of the best men and equipment that time, but you could also argue that is when the axis held the most precarious positions and made the greatest blunders. It was a game changing year.
@@speggeri90 Some can say Germany despite it still going strong in 1942 it lost its best troops and majority of equipment in the 1941 Operation Barbarossa Campaign as the year especially during the Summer and September of it as they had to rely on their weaker Axis allies for lots of manpower the following year but leadership of the Wehrmacht is why they made so much gains as well as the USSR leadership still had some issues in the southern theatre of war.